Shelby GT350R vs Camaro ZL1 1LE!!! | The Ultimate American Track Musclecar?
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Ford and Chevy both have created an ultimate track focused version of their muscle car. The Mustang and Camaro have faced off for decades, so we decided to directly compare the latest ZL1 1LE and a Shelby GT350R. Both approach the challenge of a track focused muscle car using a different recipe...and both end up so epic. Check out what its like to own these car and the direct head to head comparison!
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I like this format... instead of just you reviewing two cars, you have the owners testing out each other’s cars!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Agreed. I like this format, too. You might have just found a strong niche here, Eddie.
Jeff Rendered ya and it’s also interesting both of them are driving two different engine methods which is neat. Push rod v8
Flat plane high rev 5.2
I agree
this format is great and unique, keep it up Eddie!
This is easily THE most civilized muscle car discussion I have ever heard in my life. Props to everyone involved. GREAT JOB!
LOL
Right!. Usually people arguing about them dont even have one. Cars in general are cool as hell
ZL1 guy seems like an intelligent, honest, unbiased guy who gave a great comparison. Gave credit where he thought it was due!
You didn’t see that from the ford guy? I thought they were both very honest. He even said it was a very close second.
Mustang guy is probably a huge car guy, the Camaro guy is probably an engineer.
jebadiah fyefye the mustang guy was literally a crybaby
jebadiah fyefye that guy said himself that he’s a bit biased and it was obvious
@@creoletatted8790 Most of us have a bias toward cars and these guys are no different. Just seeing how shitty the 1LE drives on the road is enough to never consider one for anything but a dedicated track car.
I like the ZL1 1LE more, but they're both beasts.
Im just gonna buy both. In Forza on xbox anyways
I already have
ha-hah :)
xd
I wish forza was on ps4. I almost would buy a xbox for forza only.
Tyler Johnson The crew 2 and Nfs payback should do it.
I own the ZL1 1LE. I upgraded from the ZL1. For the track, it can't be touched. The engine, the Alpha chassis, the aero, and the MultiMatic DSSV suspension give it the clear win. I also think it looks super badass... especially in my color, Hyper Blue Metallic. Siiiick!
@@ShadyGrady3 I think it looks amazing, but to each his own!
The second he said it's an extra motion to turn the fan I LMAO
See this is what car culture is about, no fighting, not arguing. Respect of each car and for each-other, the way it should be.
the paint color on the 350R is sick. By far the best color combo they offer imo
black fish idk which one I like better that or the blue with red strips I feel like the blue and red strips pop out more and the black and red strips is just mean looking
Yes. Beautiful
Working across the street from a Ford dealership I will have to disagree, looks like any other Mustang and when it comes to why you buy one, PERFORMANCE, it is just another Mustang! Sorry!
@@Bruce6001 -It will, when the 500's arrive... poor bastards! ;)
Agree, this was my first choice in car and color, however, i was not paying the dealer markup. We bought the NFG ZL1 1LE and love it.
Props to u guys driving the R and 1le on MI roads. Idk if people understands how hardcore that is 😂
It was super sketch in the Camaro, and painful haha
Fuckin drive a leveled Duramax HD truck everyday in Michigan which I guarantee is harsher than the ZLE. You all are pussies.
It is. I just drove my Beat up to Michigan for the Woodward Dream Cruise. I've driven in Michigan plenty before but with a tiny car on crazy stiff coilovers it put the roads in a whole new light.
Can'tHave2MuchHP - you are wrong. All that is is heavy rear springs to deal with the load, so it's sort of stiff when not loaded. They still have soft dampers, and the spring rate vs weight still isn't as high as a sports car.
Dolby109 Incorrect. I live near and drive on the same roads they filmed this on. It’s nothing. They’re just pussies. I know three ZLE owners and it’s not even that bad. A HD truck is worse. These two ford fucks are just used to their Audi’s and SUVs that are quieter and soft.
Dolby109 Fact is if it had tons of body roll they bitch too. Can’t make people like this happy.
This was the best review between a Ford and Chevy owner that i've ever watched. Seriously, great job! If you can do the same between a ZL1 non 1LE and GT350. That would be awesome.
Thanks! I will try to do that!
I love the look of the ZL1, muscular and just bad ass. The paint scheme of the Mustang, gloss black with flat black stripes and red pin stripe at the sides is gorgeous. Add the RED cobra insignia on the front and looks aggressive. I love them both, but Camaro would be the one to buy for me. Exterior styling is just more aggressive. Great review by two professionals (employees that probably know every inch of design, development, manufacturing, and performance). Thank you for a well directed review.
The camaro zl1 1le has the best front end...😍😍
Camaros killing the mustang. Thats why I went with the 6th gen fifty 2ss. The mustang just feels like a cheap car. I wanted a mustang till I drive them both.
@@tylerdurden7146 yeah i was was debating over which to get a Mustang GT Premium or Camaro SS 2SS and i feel that way too. what were your personal opinions about both cars when driving them
@@tylerdurden7146 mustang premium spec feels pretty plush coming from a BRZ though 😄
You guys have something here. The chemistry with all 3 of you works so well. Keep at it and who knows you might just be the better US version of Top Gear.
One of the best car review videos I have seen, would like to see videos like this continue. Thank you EddieX.
This is by far one of the best reviews I’ve ever seen.
Before I bought my 350 I was super close to buying a 2ss 1le which has the same interior. I went with the 350 because after I drove both I felt the mustang felt more “raw.” The camaro felt like it drove itself which some may like, but not for me
I feel the same way but I bought an SS 1LE. At $47k new it was an easy choice. Not sure if I would get the Ford even if money wasn’t an issue. I’d like it on track, and I do appreciate the visibility out of the cabin but for someone who would daily it I’m going SS 1LE 6SPD.
The dream will be to own both
A convincingly honest and thorough comparison of two rival cars that I also would like to own. Great video fellas!!!!
What a great comparison. Civil conversation without all the fanboys BS and real impressions of the cars. First time I’ve seen you’re channel but I’ll keep checking for more. Great job 👍
Great video!! Finally a video comparing both at the same time... outstanding job
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks!!
Never pay mark up on a car! The money you’ve saved by buying the Camaro you can put exhaust, better seats, another set of tires for track days!.... just my two cents.....👍
Do yourself a favor and buy one that is a year old. They are out there and the savings are worth it.
And not be able to see a God Damn thing while your're driving.
There’s a reason why the GT350R is still marked up, and the ZL1 1LE isn’t, and that’s because more people want the GT350R, it sounds a ton better (a main reason why people buy these cars)(probably one of the best sounding factory cars ever made), and it’s a track car that doesn’t need the use of forced induction to be fast on and off the track. There a lot to be said about that.
Jason S personally, the 350r is the best sounding non exotic car on the planet. Ford working with borla to make the exhaust was an incredible decision. And hearing one at over 7000 RPM’s is just absolutely insane.
Zl1 1le just put exhaust tires on tune
Even the base 1LE SS is insane! 455HP and 455LB of torque. More than I can handle LOL
Yes nd wen ur done paying it .... pro charge that bitch💪💪
Or turbo. But yea. Or stroker is nice. Anyway will make a 1le beastier
Never really realized how rough the zl1 1LE suspension is until I saw them consistently bouncing in their seats. I always thought people were exaggerating. Love the video.
Me and my friend were in a challenger rt at the Woodward dream cruise this weekend and we raced a zl1 1le. It’s not even funny how far ahead he got in front of us that thing is FAST!
John Shukeireh Would you please give my racing channel its 1525th Subscribe
I mean. You were in a boat
Ray Rocco but u will have the ugliest car in town .. Go fuck yourself u guiny hick
I beat a challenger in my 2016 1SS. It wasn't hard to do tbh. And I was bone stock, which I'm sure he was as well.
Every gear shift on my car, had me pulling ahead of the challenger with ease. Chargers are a joke for the SS unless they have some strap-ons.
The stock mustangs, cannot compete with the 1SS or 2SS let alone the ZL1's without their supercharger strap-ons. Even in handling they fall behind the Camaro.
From what I've researched even a Hellcat cannot touch a Camaro with equal horsepower under the hood.
That’s because Challenger RT’s are slow!
For me it’s ZL1 for track only driving, but if I were going to do both street and track driving, I’d go with the Shelby.
Good way to put it! I agree
EddieX Partly due to the atrocious visibility. I rented a Camaro SS for a few days and of course being a rental car, it lacked any options such as blind spot monitors, so it was kinda scary to drive on the streets. As a track car the Camaro is amazing, but not a car I would use on the streets due to that.
Samuel Wu you don’t really use it that much once you get on you use your mirror more
Both are amazing for 70,000. I would hands down take the mustang and put a pro charger!the 350 looks and sounds awsome!
great job guys! the way you explain everything about the cars, the format you present. i will be following you. You will be around a long time.
Damn I want both. Shelby for showing off and Camaro for showing up at the track!!!
Eddie loved the video do more of these comparsions they're great
Glad you enjoyed it! Will try to film more
WOW! Sincere thanks to BOTH OWNERS! Unbelieveably well spoken & honest- ZERO trash talk from either. Really enjoyed each others impressions of the other's car- maybe the very best comparo I've ever seen. Love them both, but, the sound of the Mustang, along with that 8,200 RPM limit along with a daily driver ride (1LE was way to stiff) was my favorite. I agreed with both owners- the seats & dash & tech would've been nicer in the GT350R, but, who doesn't adore 650/650 on tap- all the time? I can barely tell a rental V6 from a Shelby, so, the Camaro is a real stand out- "what is that thing?" is what I always say when I see one (albeit rarely). EddieX- great work, and, (I'm guessing) solid editing! What a high bar to achieve, I hope you can keep it up! At $65k- the Camaro is a dedicated track car (pricey), and the GT350R isn't. But, at 65K for it, I think I would want more: tech, options, luxury, etc...
Cooled seats on a hot day at the track is the BEST!!!!
I would choose a regular ZL1 A10 with a Corsa exhaust with the exhaust flaps open all the time lol, but i like the GT 350R a lot. Good review well done.
Yes, agree completely but still tempted to get the manual.
lmao, automatic
Pretty much.
I read my mind if do same modifications but have it manual
Matthew D lmao gatekeeping cars
Great comparison video man... good work 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
Glad you enjoyed it!!
I have a ZL11LE and I don't have a problem at all seeing out of it, my head is in the middle of the window. I don't look out the window with my bicep. The problem with these comparisons is that the ZL11LE is not a comparable to the GT 350R it's more of a comparable to the 911 GT3 or a lamborghini Hurican they have stiff suspensions also and have you ever tried to look out of a lambo? Nobody whines about the restricted vision out of that car. As far as the sound of the car put it in track mode and double tap the TC then select track and the car sounds freaking awesome but it might scare you because this is the only setting that allows you to get full throttle all the other settings restrict the horsepower.
I agree. People are overly critical about the visiblity. Is it perfect, no, but it is an amazing performance car at an amazing price point. Especially, as you pointed out, performance wise it’s more on par with the Lambo and Mclaren. I have one and love it. I’ve never had a car that was more fun or could corner as fast. By the way, I also have a Mercedes AMG. I rather drive the manual ZL1 1LE.
Exactly, the ZL1 is GM's top performer for Camaro when in 2015 it had 505 hp to today's 640 hp, why because Ford's mid-range Stang gt350r track car blew it's doors off, it's horse power 526. So GM's using Ford's mark to beat, came back with more horses than a drag stock car in the late 80's rated at just 500 hp. So if you want a comparison you have to race the KR (king of the road) GT 500.
Note: Corvette was made to compete with Ford's two seater in the 50's, the Thunderbird, who always won the race. But now the mustang whooped that ass (Corvettes) so many times and the ford GT being a super car they threw their motor out, built a new one, with more torque and redesigned the whole car after putting the motor in the middle (like Seattle moving out of the AFC West, and being relocated to NFC North before they could win a title) of the chassis, good job GM but I'm still riding a Stang baby, the original American icon. GM did a fantastic job chased the leader GT 350 and after a couple tries got em'.
I would say the ZL-1 1-LE is closer to the GT-500. Take the supercharger off, thus an SS with the 1-LE option and this becomes more of an apples-to-apples comparison with the GT350-R. Visibility is much worse than in the Mustang, not insurmountable, but not as easy to see out of in comparison. The LS motor makes torque much easier, less oil consumption as well
I would have to agree there comparing a supercharged engine to a naturally aspirated engine it should be compared to the GT500 not the 350
Great concept to compare the experience from the other car by both owners. Love the format want to see more like this
Excellent Cars! I love chevy and ford but I'll give it to the 1LE. Crazy engineering in this Chevy. And for the shelby, The engine is the star.
Camaros suck
@@drwho1821 My God! Now the whole world will change their standpoint.
@@drwho1821 you suck haha i love them both
I believe the front end of the Ford is the star. For it to handle the way it does, and to feel so good, that’s next level engineering. Putting a giant blown motor on a car with race suspension isn’t anything crazy to me. It’s a cool car for sure. But I think the gt350R is more special and I think time will fell the same.
Walid H you can’t really compare, one is naturally aspirated. The other isn’t
One of your best videos. Thanks!
Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed it
This was an awesome review. I love the format. Including amicable owner comparisons was great; Eddie you are on to something here. I sold my GT350 after 7 months of ownership due to lack of torque for street driving. You can't deny most driving for a GT350 will be on the street.
Everyone saying "take the super charger off and then lets see" thats like saying "make that flat plane crank cross plane then lets see" its put on at the factory, has factory warranty and is incorporated into the price. Both of these are great cars, I have driven a regular gt350 and a zl1 and both are absolutely amazing cars, and honestly someone with my driving ability will never come close to pushing either to their limit in any capacity. What I will say is the noise is smile inducing in the gt350 and the sheer grunt of the zl1 puts the exact same smile on my face. Different strokes for different folks
13:07 "I'm not whining!" Lolz
😂
Hey brother. Thank you for the video. Great concept. Car-swap, this should bring up some interesting conversations not only about cars, but personalities as well.
I just subscribed to your channel based on the quality of this one video. It might be the best head to head comparison video I've ever seen.
its nice to see what an actual polite conversation is like between different brand owners. something you don't see when visiting different car forums or youtube comment sections that drip with brand bias and vitriol. just 2 guys, driving 2 cool cars and having fun in both.
Respect to the Camaro in Ontario 🇨🇦👍
The GT350R owner mostly complained about the ZL1 1LE suspension. Solution, do what I did...buy the "regular" ZL1. It's everything the ZL1 1LE is, except for two things: 1) With the ZL1, you get the Magnetic Ride suspension (like on the GT350R), which is excellent on the track and excellent for everyday driving and 2) you can easily add the 1LE aero package to the ZL1 and then, poof, you have a ZL1 1LE with a better overall suspension. Oh, and I also got a sunroof on my 2018 ZL1, which you can't get on a ZL1 1LE. I added the aero so, in my opinion, I now have a better car than both of these.
Agreed.. but you forgot the secret part A 10 speed ..you have to know one to like one..lol
@@markmcintyre4707 I could have mentioned it but I was focused on my car. I opted for the manual on my ZL1 over the A10 (as you know, the ZL1 1LE only comes with a manual). I know how amazing that automatic transmission that they co-developed with Ford is but, since this is just a toy to me and not my daily driver, I went for the manual because I don't mind losing a few tenths of a second in order to enjoy the experience of shifting myself. ;) BTW, I also could have mentioned the 20" wheels on the ZL1 vs. the 19" wheels on the ZL1 1LE as well as the fact that the wheels have a vastly different design...as well as a couple of other minor things. I like the design of my wheels much better. Harder to clean, but I think they look awesome.
Nice!👍🏼
@@thunderhammer1937 Thanks, bro!
But your zl1 is still slower than a 1le...
Love this format. You just earned a sub! Keep up the great work.
I must say though what an excellent video/real world driven review! Good job.
At the end of the day, I want the one that wins the race (Camaro) I can upgrade the seats lol.
Nathan Moore heck yeah
Not only that but LS motors are cheaper to modify overall
GT350R past 4k RPM's is heavenly music. 1LE's brutal torque is magic propulsion.
By far the best review Iv seen ! I have a 2019 mustang gt pp1 and love it 😍 ! Love the mutual respect and honesty of the owners!
i own the 1le. i think this is the best review of these two cars i've seen. One beef - i get tired of hearing what a hard ride the 1le is mostly because i got use to it. sure it's a hard ride, but somehow 2k miles later, i dont notice. and the other thing - that suspension glues the car to the road like rails, and i'd like to point that out. took the car to willows a couple of weeks ago. had a great time. drove the car there and back (500 miles round trip). best street legal car there that day, and kept up with all the pure track cars. for me, the ride is stiff but not harsh, not jarring. My two cents. Again, great video, Eddie. Love the format, especially since the owners work at GM and Ford.
You nailed it with this review Eddie. I personally would choose the R and add more leather, power, wider tires and gadgets but with the 1le all you need is better race seats and exhaust. Overall I would give the Camaro the win but the Mustang gets my money because it's harder to upgrade looks.
real talk 1le.all.the.way
Ford lied and said no automatic could handle the torque. GM proved it was a lie.
Jacob Tratnyek General Motors
That's why Ford went to chevy to design a transmission
@@Ozmandius Funny because Ford has yet to use GM's transmission but GM was happy to use that 10 speed.
@@burgerbandit3646 Tremec makes the trans for both.
@@joaovitorsilvagohl682 keep telling them, I work for the largest ome company (at least last year,) and we make parts for Ford,GM ,Nissan
and Chrysler, on the same kind of equipment!! We make parts for other companies as well. Buy what you like made in America. Stop bitchin bout what the next guy drives.
LOVED HEARING THE ACTUAL OWNERS OPINIONS OF EACH OTHERS CARS. WELL DONE.
I really like the format as well...nice work. This is how a car review and comparison should be done.
I'm old school. You can't compare small block to big block.
Both awesome cars. I have a ZL1, and I'd love to have a GT350R too.
If you're buying either of these cars for daily driver "comfort", you're doing it wrong. The Ford guy complains the ZL1 is too rough and that he drives his GT350R daily. Then in the next breath says he doesn't want the comfort of heated and cooled seats in his "track car". I don't think he knows what he wants...besides dessert. Otherwise, great comparison video.
+BombersNemesis I'm not quite sure how it's wrong to use daily driver "comfort" as a reason to buy one car or the other. If I was just trailering the car to the track, you'd buy the 1LE without hesitation since the ride quality doesn't matter on the track. But, if you are not planning to use it just for the track and plan to use it for other things, then ride quality should matter in the decision you make. I wanted a car that would be good on the road and the track, not just one or the other. And I wasn't in the position to buy just a car for the track, so ride comfort is something I look for. The heated/cooled seats comments I said did not come out the right way in the video, and I can see why it sounds contradictory. Heated and cooled seats have nothing to do with overall seat comfort, it's just a convenience feature. The seats in the Shelby are actually more comfortable than the Camaro seats, and they are not heated/cooled, and that is stated in the video. And lastly, Who doesn't want dessert? Not sure how that adds anything relevant, but whatever. I'm glad you enjoyed the video though, it was fun to make and both cars were a blast to drive.
Matt S Understood. And I did enjoy the discussion you two had. Perhaps the title of the video is what mislead me into thinking this would be more of a track specific review.
+BombersNemesis I could totally understand why you could have been mislead by the title. It says the best track car, but we were reviewing them on the road and not the track lol. I think the outcome would have been much different if we drove each other's cars on a actual track (next video idea?).
Yeah. I've watched almost every track review/comparison but it would be great to see that (a track review) from the owner's perspectives rather than people who make a living reviewing cars (i.e. Motor Trend and the like). The GT350R is quite the car and I have never been a fan of Mustangs. I have the opportunity to put some money down for a GT500 in the next few weeks so I have been scouring the internet for as many comparisons as I can and if the GT500 is even close to what it's being touted to be, it's going to destroy the competition in the muscle/sports car genre. Especially on the track.
Stupid comment.. he said for a track car... He doesn't use his mustang as a track car and said he wishes the seats were reversed.. His comment made plenty of sense.. The shit he wouldn't care about in a trak car, he cares about in a daily car... comprehendo?
Really liked this comparison. Great video
I must say, this was a perfect comparison video. Subscribed
Amazing series to start! Please do more of these videos, they will definitely blow up.
You can make the exhaust louder independent of the driving mode in the ZL1 1LE. Its an option in the settings menu.
This is great to get the comparison rom the owners! Well done.
Awesome job, the very best review....I’ve seen in a long time, Thx 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
This would be a tough one for me. I agree that the 350R looks better, and the sound it makes is just amazing, and I also like the idea of an N/A engine.
But the ZL1, esp in 1LE trim is a better performer in every metric.
Unfortunately I can't afford them so it doesn't really matter.
*BUT* I soon will be able to afford ~$45k so it will likely come down to the Camaro SS 1LE vs Mustang GT PP2.
Ford suspension on there cars has always been good which explains the ride I drove a GT mustang yesterday and it felt as good as my Lincoln not exactly the same but for a muscle car it was great on the road
Amazing video I love the fact that both guys work for Ford and GM. Both awesome cars both awesome guys great format great comparisons.
Great real life review from actual owners. This format of video is money for sure.
This was a very informative video, and like others have said, thanks for not being biased meatheads about your respective cars, guys!
But.. my man. The driving gloves. I mean.. great if you’re attempting to avoid splinters from all the wooden steering wheels you deal with regularly, but... yeesh. Might as well wear goggles, too.
Rely late to reply but I’m guessing he wears them to save the alcantara steering wheels. I’ve never worn gloves in mine but the wheel doesn’t have the same feel or look as it used to either because of that.
Good review. Since I track my car, performance is the key criteria, so I would choose the ZL1 1LE.
Great video guys you could tell that the zl11le Road pretty rough but both cars are just awesome
Vik...is Vikram the Camaro guy from my country, India and never thought that an Indian will buy a v8 camaro...amazing
16:00 The ZL11LE owner is like, "What the hell did you guys just do to my car?!"
Bruhhh😂💀
I think the styling of the Shelby R is more classic and I prefer it, but as far as power, handling, tech features even the interior layout I'd have to chose the Camaro.I've always been a GM man, with the exception of Lincoln vs Cadillac, F series GM trucks, and even yes Mustang vs Camaro . In this case though without driving them myself I'd have to go with the ZL1 1LE. THAT ALL BEING SAID I THINK I AM VERY UNBIASED
Awesome review guys. Supercharger makes huge difference, I have 2018 Gt fully optioned and I love it. Im not big fan off supercharged and turbos but I guess that's the future....
I love that both guys are able to give unbiased opinions. I would have a hard time choosing between the two.
The Ford Mustang dude was a little whiney. I like both of these cars but I'd take ZL1.
I can be whiney at times. I tried to be honest though.
@@Wings1090 Sorry shouldn't have said that. You seemed a little biased towards the Stang being you are a super Ford fan, but I'll admit I'd rather have the Stang gt350r for a daily vs the 1le ZL1. But ZL1 without the 1LE would be choice for a daily.
+Quincy Allen No worries, I can understand your criticism. You should have seen me before I was hired at Ford, huge GM fan. Amazing how getting paid by a company can change your perspective lol. I also agree with your choices. If you are a GM fan, and want a daily driver who can preform on the track, get a normal ZL1. If you want a track monster that you will trailer to and from the track, get a 1LE. The GT350R rides like a Cadillac compared to the 1LE haha.
@@Wings1090 I am neither a GM or Ford fan but I simply wanted the fastest track car with a warranty. That's why I own a ZL1 1LE. The Gt350r is generally esthetically better but that's not why Ford designed it. It's supposed to be the pinnacle of Mustang track car yet it doesn't perform as it should. (Maybe they'll fix that with the next super charged GT 500)
You mention that the Ford has better ride quality, but it's supposed to be a track car. The ZL1 1LE has intentionally stiff chassis and DSSV shocks that are same as the F1 cars. That's why it performs so well on track with cars that cost 3 to 4 times as much! You can't complain about ride quality on a car that was intentionally engineered to have that.
+JR B Congrats on getting a ZL1 1LE, it's one hell of a car.
When the GT350/R was developed in 2014, it was built to beat the previous generation Z/28 (latest Chevy track car at the time) around a track. The previous generation Z/28 is the closest competitor to the GT350/R, not the ZL1 and the 1LE. The newest Shelby yet to be released is supposed to be the response to the ZL1 1LE. And to my knowledge, the GT350R beats the Z/28 around the track, so the GT350/R accomplishes the goal it was built for in my opinion. But when compared to the 1LE, it's no contest, but for a reason (supercharger).
In terms of the ride quality, I can totally understand why they designed the 1LE the way they did. Hell, the Ford GT has the same shocks as the 1LE. But I complain about the ride quality in comparison to the Shelby because both are considered fast around a track (track cars), but the Shelby is more comfortable overall because of the Magnaride suspension. If the 1LE had the magnaride shocks like in the normal ZL1, I think it would still be as fast or close, but ride better on the road. Question: Do you daily the 1LE where you live? Honestly, I wouldn't want to daily the 1LE here in Michigan because the suspension is ONLY designed for the track, and our roads suck lol. People want to drive the 1LE on the road and on the track when they buy it, so it should be more comfortable to drive on the road if they are selling it as such.
I would take the ZL1 all day long!
Better get a tow truck..
This is such a great rivalry between two great American Muscle beasts.
Excellent video! This is how car reviews should be done !
one small tip eddie :D the audio is flipped left to right .
The Mustang looks so damn good !
Awesome Vid! As a 2015 GT owner it is really cool to see guys that own each model talking about their cars. The bottom line is it is a great time to be a car lover right now. There are tons of options out there. I grew up in a Ford family and will probably always own Fords car (The new GT500 is calling me). But the competition of Ford/GM is what makes it great....And of course we can all laugh at Dodge in the end :)
I'm saving this video to link in the dumb comment section arguments in the future. This is how real men compare cars. Blatant brand bias is not only ignorant but bad for the brand in the long run. Demand more from your favorite brand if you want more. Competition is always a good thing. It's a great age for american motor sports with all the competition and we've never seen this much quality in our muscle cars. Hats off for the very cool format. These guys put their bias aside and gave very genuine and logical opinions.
6:46 "It's a v8 Honda." LMAO that's the first time I've heard anyone say that to describe a gt350r haha
Raúl not me I've heard that several times that's the impression I got just a big ass Honda motor that's all
Mostly likely because mustang (at least near me) are as common as hondas, which sadly makes them less exciting to see
There's never been a Honda that sounded that that. Ever.
@@billyunderwood7221 you missed the point
Cold_ Soup same as Camaros
CAMARO ALL DAY
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Hell yeah
Great video I like how honest they are
Great vid. Really dig this format. Btw, I've got a 2015 Z/28 (bought new at way under MSRP). Mods brought RWP to 590 and RWT to 500. Overall, spent less than a GT350R at MSRP. Now, I love the R, but every one I've seen is marked up 20K+. That's just ridiculous I recently drove a GT350. Not a fair comparison power wise, but even my stock LS7 had a ton more low end torque and I honestly don't care for the 350 exhaust note. I had a Boss 302 LS and it had just slightly less torque and also had to be wound out to get to decent torque (but the quad exhaust was amazing). The Z... give it a bit of throttle at any RPM range and it comes alive. Am certain the 1LE even more so. Also, head over to the GT350 forums and read up on oil consumption, blown engines, etc. I get that all cars have issues, but they seem excessive.
The gt350r is just sexy. Beautiful engine sound
You guys make me laugh, reminds me of Harold and Kumar. Lol
Thats racist, youre a racist and you should feel bad
Good reviews and great format. Live is too short to be bias with cars. There are so many great ones.
Great video, really enjoyed this.
I chose my ZL one over the cobra r And yes you’re right the cobra exhaust sounds way better unfortunately there’s just not enough horsepower there you’re almost get beat by everything
If you e85 with a tune they are monsters tho
You're the man!
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simply a great comparison. Very well done.
It’s nice to have the two owners driving each others cars and I was waiting for the rev match that never happened
Now, more than a year after this video was made, I'd say compare the 2019 Shelby GT500, and both guys would be singing a different tune.
i would take a ZL1
Great video EddieX! Props to the guys for a sensible comparison.
Personally, I'd go for the GT350R and add a supercharger or TT to it to bring the power and torque up a bit.
A first time viewer, I enjoyed the format and the owner interaction. I am sure both were unbiased reviewers. Liked and subbed.
These cars are true expressions of their builders design and manufacturing excellence. They are NOT very similar and that is laudable. They each have their charms and foibles and they appeal to different buyers for different reasons. Although both are track focused cars, they feature very different manners.
The obvious enjoyment in evidence as each owner drove the product of the other camp was good to see.
The real story is that these are both great sports cars keeping up the American end in a market full of Asian and European computer controlled, ground based space ships.
Congratulations to Ford and Chevrolet for putting these very respectable track monsters on the block and hope they keep serving up this kind of lusty performance for years to come. Tally Ho!