Hey Timmy, just want to say I think you are a legend and it's fantastic that you help out us other fishos. I enjoy all of your vids and wish you the best in life! You rock! Cheers - Will
Good tips mate not everyone appreciates the time and effort you have put in to share the knowledge you have. 17 in your first season is a great start I managed 7 this season with minimal outings and I've chased them for years 😂 keep up the videos mate they're entertaining to say the least 👍
Thanks for all the vids this season Timmy never even thought about chasing jacks till I saw you on the news and started watching you ever since. Thanks to you I caught my first jack a few weeks ago and she went 51cm and another yesterday 28cm but the season is well and truly dead now. Can't wait for next season and building a pipe raft to fish off too. I think you should do a series next season "fishing with fans" and take one person a week of your choice to fish with you for jacks
Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge.This year has been my Jack learning year..and I can relate to the falling barometer part.Caught my first and only topwater jack on a rainy night with a low barometer.Will certainly be keen to go out on the next low barometer day and will fish outgoing tides more
Good on ya Timmy, never caught a legal Jack in my life, thank you very much for the hints mate, muchly appreciated and keep up the good work, youre a gem son
Thanks for the tips and I have just started to chase the jacks but we had most of the time we went for flathead and so hopefully those tip will help us catch our first ever jack at the age of 12 so pretty exited after those tips thank and I love your TH-cam channel all the best for it thanks🎣🎣🐠🐟
Brilliant. Just back from Goa where I got completely destroyed by MJ's. Can't believe how mental the takes are and thanks so much for all the tips. Hopefully be a little better prepared next time....
great video mate! My Grandad and I have been fishing for jacks in Currumbin Creek for years now, we both have cracked a 70cm plus Jack and in our best season, we caught over 32 jacks in just over 3 months. I was only about 10 back then! we fish mainly around the two corners of the first canal and the last bridge before the mouth.
i reckon you could fill your tackle box with basically every lure in the atomic range from there considering all the lures I have lost there along the years and is probably worth about 72 million dollars when taking into consideration the cost of lures these days! And you could become a billionaire with all the tons of lead in sinkers we have lost there as well! :)
would you mind checking out my channel and give me some feedback? i fish a lot around the coast and here in Brisbane and in a lot of places you and Rokkit fish. i started it just the other week cheers!
good videos mate. just put yourself in front of the camera every now and then. people want to relate to the fisherman and get to know you. just start by saying what you are fishing for and how. at the beginning and then thanks for watching at the end. and then as you get use to it you can start to talk more. i think people prefer talking over music but it is very hard to do hahaha ill fish all week and forget to say a word to the camera and then it makes it very hard to make a film. thats why the music goes in haha. do one thing that scares you everyday. i talk to a camera haha good luck with the channel
Hi Timmy, some of your tips have been helpful...... But I've really impressed with the boat that you fish from ....... 5stars brother,and please entertain us with your jack session.....
Timmy mate if you're fishing the big tides and there's plenty of jelly prawns around chuck on a 4 inch atomic prongs in the clear white-ish colour with a 1/8th 3/0X tt jighead been my go to plastic when the fish are gorging themselves on prawns always produces the goods!!
cheers mate i did pick myself up a packet but didn't give it much use. next season i will definitely give them more of a crack. they look like a good lure
Hey Tim I've been fishing for bream on soft plastics for 2 days with my new setup can u give me some advise in techniques and that would be excellent thank you 👍
Top marks on not swearing on bust offs. I let it rip. I'll definitely try to looser drag option. Also have you tried just using worm hooks and putting a small sinker in your loop knot. Much cheaper then those snake heads.
hey bro I've found out fishing for jacks using steel lead really helps . I currently start my jack challenge an I had trouble fishing without steel lead . but I've had two record jack the first is 7lbs and and the second was monster 10.4 lbs I fish in a logoon 6 miles away from my house it comes off the sea.
I'm in Fiji and love to chase the jacks around the mangrove rivers. When are the jacks running, when is the season and we're do they go in the off time. Trying to figure it out for my waters of Fiji so I can target them accordingly.
during the summer is when the jacks are on. from about october through to may. we recently had a heap of rain so it closed the season about a month ago the water temps never recovered. some jacks will move back out to the ocean some will stay in the rivers creeks and canals but be less aggressive so only feed on bait or live bait. if your lucky you will still get them on lures but we tend to target them when they are really fired up. water temps over 24-25 is what you want hot muggy days
Haven't seen such dedication and seriousness to fishing a species. Also I learned something from your video-that is not to set the drag too tight when setting the hook. I've lost many fish recently. Subbed! Also are you fishing in Florida? Are these fish also called mangrove snapper locally?
+Jan young hey Jan. No fishing Australia. We fish them just about as far south as they go so can be very hard to temp some days. Up north where the waters are always warm they are a lot easier to catch but don't grow as in the estuaries. Mangrove jack in Australia mangrove snapper in Florida. Best fighting fish for there size. And more and more people are chasing them every summer
hey quick question im in maroochydore and never caught a jack so wanting to ask 2 questions Are they good to eat and when i down loaded the fisho app it said they carry some disses. so can or cant you eat them
If someone can't catch a Jack after watching your videos then they should quit!!! Great vids mate. Would love your thoughts on my Exploring Noosa film preview if you get 90seconds spare.
In my experience of chasing jacks in north queensland, particularly hinchinbrook they have a 'nasty' habit of circling the bait and grabbing it on the way to their mangrove home. An elusive and worthy fish. As with all members of the lujanit family they are great eating too. Just don't waste any of the fish, steam or deep fry it whole.
I fished the Tiwi islands and had way more fun on the jacks than Barramundi. Over rated i feel. Oh and the smallest i caught was about the size of your biggest. If you can get up there.......
Hey Timmy! Had my second session chasin Jacks this morning at Coomera, not even a hit the last 2 sessions! I’m getting a new rod thinking a Daiwa Gen Black either 3-7kg 6.4’ or 4-7kg 6.4’ or 6’ do you have any suggestions? Cheers mate, love your vids
dont stress mate keep trying different spots I have barley had a hit in my last 14 sessions. I use to own the 4-9kg but it snapped when the motor landed on it. it was a perfect rod for jack fishing.
id say a majority came between 8-10. but my mate has got them 12-1 in the arvo so the feed all day. when the sun is highest in the sky good time to hit the potions because the water will be warm and they will be right up underneath them
Fishing With Timmy Turtle legendary mate thanks i only tend to get them late arvo but thats probably because thats when i fish haha. But i have days free in between school hours so i might hit them all day. Cheers mate and thanks. Might bump into you one day see ya.
hey red dog man,love your clips,do you do any live bait fishing for reds?thats all I do up here on the sunshine coast and the fish all seem to be quality.cheers
hey mate cheers glad you are enjoying them! I would throw the cast net away and go and buy a packet of lures. you will not look back. I live baited for two weeks then bought some lures and never used it again. a lot more enjoyable and rewarding when you get a fish :)
that was just a picture off google images but you can look up sea water temps there are a few good ones if you search around i don't know any off the top of my head but a friend showed me a good one.
Good stuff mate, what is that reel that you need new bearings for? My mate supplies bearings for reel repairs, I'll hit him up to sort you out, or I'll shout you a set.
thanks mate its a shimano scorpion but its all good ill grab them myself. going to experiment with full ceramic in some places and hybrids in other. see how it goes. thanks heaps for the offer :) appreciate it. sorry the late response I've been meaning to write the response for a while
Fishing With Timmy Turtle no wuckas mate, happy to offer ya. I had a look and can't see that reel on there, he has plenty of shimano sets. I'll shoot him a message and tell him to look at putting them on there. I've got him to do up 10% off for anyone I give a code to, code is "everyrc" plaig.com.au/shop/index.php/bfishing-reel-bearingsb-shimano-bearing-kits-c-62_73
I went out to a spot last week in Karratha Wa, everyone says it’s “fished out” but I caught 24 jacks in one morning and the biggest was 50cm (catch and release)
Hi mate I went to a plumbing store the other day to make myself a fishing raft and the cost of the pvc pipe alone with no ply or trolling motor was $450! All up with a trolling motor and ply it would of been around $700-800 when you can buy a fishing kayak for $400 why Timmy why
firstly i did not pay anything near that. i had a plumber friend who got all the materials for next to nothing, secondly building your own boat is much more rewarding, and thirdly cheap fishing kayaks you can only stand up in in super calm conditions. i wanted to be able to stand up the whole time i was fishing. thats why
Thanks for the reply great points. if you have got a good place to by cheap plumbing part please let me know. thanks again for the reply. your my favourite youtube by far because of you interesting fishing experiences and great ideas and creativity. cheers max
Max Robards hey mate have you tried just going to Bunnings that's probably where I'm going to get the materials from and it's not as expensive as you found your materials from?
Fishing With Timmy Turtle thanks great idea I'll give that a shot. You should fish clarrie hall dam for bass it look really promising and it's only about 1 hour for the Gold Coast?
when prawns are running get yourself a fly rod , tie some shrimp patterns and hold on like fuck mate . you will have to wear ya brown shorts as they will get stained
Fishing With Timmy Turtle , i was never a fan of fly fishing for ages until a mate got me onto it . you will be surprised how well they work on shutdown fish . its as finesse as u can get and a good laugh for the viewers when ya get line burn from a big red heading for his home haha . keep up the good work mate 🖒
haha i have always wanted to try it but know its going to open up a whole new can of worms and i can't afford the can of worms that I'm in at the moment haha
Hey Timmy, just want to say I think you are a legend and it's fantastic that you help out us other fishos. I enjoy all of your vids and wish you the best in life! You rock!
Cheers - Will
Good tips mate not everyone appreciates the time and effort you have put in to share the knowledge you have. 17 in your first season is a great start I managed 7 this season with minimal outings and I've chased them for years 😂 keep up the videos mate they're entertaining to say the least 👍
G'day from W.A, luv your vids Timmy, look forward to next season.
You, Sir, deserve a medal.
Thanks for all the vids this season Timmy never even thought about chasing jacks till I saw you on the news and started watching you ever since. Thanks to you I caught my first jack a few weeks ago and she went 51cm and another yesterday 28cm but the season is well and truly dead now. Can't wait for next season and building a pipe raft to fish off too.
I think you should do a series next season "fishing with fans" and take one person a week of your choice to fish with you for jacks
Brody Hennessy great idea
Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge.This year has been my Jack learning year..and I can relate to the falling barometer part.Caught my first and only topwater jack on a rainy night with a low barometer.Will certainly be keen to go out on the next low barometer day and will fish outgoing tides more
Thanks for the tips timmy! I will definitely be targeting jacks this season for sure. Keep up the good work bruzz!
Good on ya Timmy, never caught a legal Jack in my life, thank you very much for the hints mate, muchly appreciated and keep up the good work, youre a gem son
thanks geoff good luck with your first jack buddy
Thank you for the info!
Of all the lures, for me it was a Yo-zuri hydro magnum deep diver in the 120mm and white with chartreuse back color.
You are a legend mate love the humble style bud keep up the good work!
Thanks for the tips and I have just started to chase the jacks but we had most of the time we went for flathead and so hopefully those tip will help us catch our first ever jack at the age of 12 so pretty exited after those tips thank and I love your TH-cam channel all the best for it thanks🎣🎣🐠🐟
Awesome tips! Thanks Timmy! 🎣
This is gold and thanks for sharing! amazing details on the tips. :D
Brilliant. Just back from Goa where I got completely destroyed by MJ's. Can't believe how mental the takes are and thanks so much for all the tips. Hopefully be a little better prepared next time....
Thanks for the tips Timmy turtle
Very nice tutorial on lures for Mangrove snappers. I hope it helps me next month while I am in the Dominican Republic.
Mate absolutely sensational video! Thanks
king of the estuary, good stuff man
love the videos bro! getting me pumped for next season.
Tips from a legend
Thanks Timmy pretty much everything i wanted to ask you . Keep up the great work , you need a catch phrase but 🤙🏻
Lot of knowledge in this video mate- good stuff.
helps me alot. love chasing them now. i havent got any luck with soft plactic. always got them with ofmer xdeep 75 (bassday deep shaker)
great video mate!
My Grandad and I have been fishing for jacks in Currumbin Creek for years now, we both have cracked a 70cm plus Jack and in our best season, we caught over 32 jacks in just over 3 months. I was only about 10 back then!
we fish mainly around the two corners of the first canal and the last bridge before the mouth.
thats awesome mate! would love to crack a seventy haha maybe next season. i know those paces well :)
i reckon you could fill your tackle box with basically every lure in the atomic range from there considering all the lures I have lost there along the years and is probably worth about 72 million dollars when taking into consideration the cost of lures these days!
And you could become a billionaire with all the tons of lead in sinkers we have lost there as well! :)
would you mind checking out my channel and give me some feedback?
i fish a lot around the coast and here in Brisbane and in a lot of places you and Rokkit fish.
i started it just the other week
cheers!
good videos mate. just put yourself in front of the camera every now and then. people want to relate to the fisherman and get to know you. just start by saying what you are fishing for and how. at the beginning and then thanks for watching at the end. and then as you get use to it you can start to talk more. i think people prefer talking over music but it is very hard to do hahaha ill fish all week and forget to say a word to the camera and then it makes it very hard to make a film. thats why the music goes in haha. do one thing that scares you everyday. i talk to a camera haha good luck with the channel
yeah, well my dad isn't allowing me to put my face in it because im still only young but thanks heaps.
Great review of ya season mate,some very good points you made,👍such an awesome fish to chase
Great tips Tim! Thanks mate 👍
Hi Timmy, some of your tips have been helpful...... But I've really impressed with the boat that you fish from ....... 5stars brother,and please entertain us with your jack session.....
A another nice video from Timmy keep up the good work mate
Thanks for the tips dad 👍🏼
Hamandpeasoap I
so happy whenever i see the notification, come have a fish at Forster mate
Timmy mate if you're fishing the big tides and there's plenty of jelly prawns around chuck on a 4 inch atomic prongs in the clear white-ish colour with a 1/8th 3/0X tt jighead been my go to plastic when the fish are gorging themselves on prawns always produces the goods!!
cheers mate i did pick myself up a packet but didn't give it much use. next season i will definitely give them more of a crack. they look like a good lure
Hey Tim I've been fishing for bream on soft plastics for 2 days with my new setup can u give me some advise in techniques and that would be excellent thank you 👍
Good video mate helped me a lot, should give some more tip videos if your struggling to catch some fish, it was really good 👍🏽
Good tips Timmy , gonna give them a go next season 🤘
great tips mate, cheers hope I can catch a few and get em on camera
Another great video. Thanks
Keep the vids coming. Good work mate 👍🏼
Top marks on not swearing on bust offs. I let it rip. I'll definitely try to looser drag option. Also have you tried just using worm hooks and putting a small sinker in your loop knot. Much cheaper then those snake heads.
cheers mate I'm all into saving money ill check them out
hey bro I've found out fishing for jacks using steel lead really helps . I currently start my jack challenge an I had trouble fishing without steel lead . but I've had two record jack the first is 7lbs and and the second was monster 10.4 lbs I fish in a logoon 6 miles away from my house it comes off the sea.
Looking to buy a baitcaster rod for chasing Jacks what weight rating would you recommend? I’ll be using 20lb braid
Right on time when I need to look for bait specifically for mangrove jack, but can you list the name of all your hard bait lure?
What are your PB's for jacks, bream, flathead and for Trevor
I'm in Fiji and love to chase the jacks around the mangrove rivers. When are the jacks running, when is the season and we're do they go in the off time. Trying to figure it out for my waters of Fiji so I can target them accordingly.
during the summer is when the jacks are on. from about october through to may. we recently had a heap of rain so it closed the season about a month ago the water temps never recovered. some jacks will move back out to the ocean some will stay in the rivers creeks and canals but be less aggressive so only feed on bait or live bait. if your lucky you will still get them on lures but we tend to target them when they are really fired up. water temps over 24-25 is what you want hot muggy days
Fishing With Timmy Turtle wow great tips
Hey Timmy, would you be able to link the jackall lures please? and what pound braid and mono were you using?
Excellent. Thanks buddy.
hey mate, just wondering what brand leader, lb and whether its fluro carbon or not that you use for jacks. cheers :)
Haven't seen such dedication and seriousness to fishing a species. Also I learned something from your video-that is not to set the drag too tight when setting the hook. I've lost many fish recently. Subbed!
Also are you fishing in Florida? Are these fish also called mangrove snapper locally?
+Jan young hey Jan. No fishing Australia. We fish them just about as far south as they go so can be very hard to temp some days. Up north where the waters are always warm they are a lot easier to catch but don't grow as in the estuaries. Mangrove jack in Australia mangrove snapper in Florida. Best fighting fish for there size. And more and more people are chasing them every summer
hey quick question im in maroochydore and never caught a jack so wanting to ask 2 questions Are they good to eat and when i down loaded the fisho app it said they carry some disses. so can or cant you eat them
Great vid Timmy. Now get out of the paddling shop and open the turtle tackle store, customers lining up outside the door....
If someone can't catch a Jack after watching your videos then they should quit!!! Great vids mate. Would love your thoughts on my Exploring Noosa film preview if you get 90seconds spare.
In my experience of chasing jacks in north queensland, particularly hinchinbrook they have a 'nasty' habit of circling the bait and grabbing it on the way to their mangrove home. An elusive and worthy fish. As with all members of the lujanit family they are great eating too. Just don't waste any of the fish, steam or deep fry it whole.
Nice video, thanks for sharing
Hi Timmy, did you try fishing barramundi??
yes i do but haven't had much luck they are hard to come by this far south
I fished the Tiwi islands and had way more fun on the jacks than Barramundi. Over rated i feel. Oh and the smallest i caught was about the size of your biggest. If you can get up there.......
Hey Timmy! Had my second session chasin Jacks this morning at Coomera, not even a hit the last 2 sessions! I’m getting a new rod thinking a Daiwa Gen Black either 3-7kg 6.4’ or 4-7kg 6.4’ or 6’ do you have any suggestions? Cheers mate, love your vids
dont stress mate keep trying different spots I have barley had a hit in my last 14 sessions. I use to own the 4-9kg but it snapped when the motor landed on it. it was a perfect rod for jack fishing.
Fishing With Timmy Turtle cheers bro!
Heaps good video really enjoy your videos keep it up!
Appreciate the tips mate
Hey timmy how many jacks do you think you hooked or caught between 9am and 3pm? Or were they all early morning late arvo captures?
id say a majority came between 8-10. but my mate has got them 12-1 in the arvo so the feed all day. when the sun is highest in the sky good time to hit the potions because the water will be warm and they will be right up underneath them
Fishing With Timmy Turtle legendary mate thanks i only tend to get them late arvo but thats probably because thats when i fish haha. But i have days free in between school hours so i might hit them all day. Cheers mate and thanks. Might bump into you one day see ya.
Hey bro try the zman pop frogs they go pretty good with jacks 🤙👌
Awesome tips
That was a great video
Great advice keep going 👍👍👍🎣🎣🎣
Thanks for sharing.
Bring your Commy and raft to WA Timmy! Our Commos could go places mate! Can sneak your raft into heaps of places!
as soon as i can afford the trip. ill do a roady
Fishing With Timmy Turtle Ill go ya halves mate! ;)
Great Vid Timmy
cheers phil
Great vid mate
hey red dog man,love your clips,do you do any live bait fishing for reds?thats all I do up here on the sunshine coast and the fish all seem to be quality.cheers
hey mate cheers glad you are enjoying them! I would throw the cast net away and go and buy a packet of lures. you will not look back. I live baited for two weeks then bought some lures and never used it again. a lot more enjoyable and rewarding when you get a fish :)
Hey mate, where do you find those charts that you showed when talking about the Northerlys?
that was just a picture off google images but you can look up sea water temps there are a few good ones if you search around i don't know any off the top of my head but a friend showed me a good one.
Do u upgrade your split rings on your lures other than the hooks Timmy
yer mate minimum 40lb split rings for jacks on some lures use 50 and 60lb also to help with the suspension of the lure
Thx mate hope to see some more of these talks on knots and stuff like that great vid Tim I’ve watched this 5 times hahah
Hi timmy, how did you rig your 2.5 inch zman curlytail grubs? Love your vids keep it up.
i dont think i have ever used those on my channel. you mean the 5 inch
Nah I thought u used them off the banks when you caught those monster bream
no that was slim swims. 1/8 jig head 1/0L
ok thanks
Good stuff mate, what is that reel that you need new bearings for? My mate supplies bearings for reel repairs, I'll hit him up to sort you out, or I'll shout you a set.
'What a guy
thanks mate its a shimano scorpion but its all good ill grab them myself. going to experiment with full ceramic in some places and hybrids in other. see how it goes. thanks heaps for the offer :) appreciate it. sorry the late response I've been meaning to write the response for a while
Fishing With Timmy Turtle no wuckas mate, happy to offer ya. I had a look and can't see that reel on there, he has plenty of shimano sets. I'll shoot him a message and tell him to look at putting them on there. I've got him to do up 10% off for anyone I give a code to, code is "everyrc"
plaig.com.au/shop/index.php/bfishing-reel-bearingsb-shimano-bearing-kits-c-62_73
Fishing With Timmy Turtle there appears to be a few different sized scorpions, what size have you got and curious did you buy it in Australia?
no bought from ebay so was sent from japan. paid 220 i think postage included. 70HG
Thanks for sharing TT.
Great video mate
Cooper Magnay great vid u havent even watched it yet
nice video Timmy
I went out to a spot last week in Karratha Wa, everyone says it’s “fished out” but I caught 24 jacks in one morning and the biggest was 50cm (catch and release)
I used a zman
Hey timmy, What are you doing when you grab your watch at 8:40?, i notice you do it quite a bit? is it your go pro remote or something?
its the control for the motor my foot control broke for a while and switched to the remote control
ohhhhh right haha cheers for the response!
Saw u on the news good job
what pound leader do you use because you breakoff of alot of jacks
Hi mate what rapala lure is best for jacks
On ya turtle! !
Timmy turtle u legend
You are a champ!!!
That was great thanks so much
When the prawns are running try using a keitech crazy flapper in sight flash or silver flash claw.Motackle has got them.
cheers mate ill have a look at them
hi timmy when are the seasons of jack fishing on the goldie
from october through to april may. you can get them all year round but this is when they are most active. warmer water temps
Nice one mate. U heading out in the next week
yer been doing a lot of land based fishing with the winds like they are but not doing to well haha have you been out recently?
Nice nah i have not been out at all. Home in a few days was going to try get out on my days off
salute!!! indeed!!!
what a good reel ratio
I like the higher ratios. 7:1 or 8:1
Can you still catch them in winter?
yes but it is quite difficult so decided to chase other species
"Fishing With The Jack God"
haha i dont deserve that name, 17 is not a high number next season I'm going to crack 50, thats my goal
whos the 2 wankers that thumbs downed this.....top job tim!
every video. timmy has a few haters.
Is the jack season winter or summer
summer
Hey what’s the chart you used at 3:15
What hook you use mate
5/0 snakelockz 1/2 ounce
Nice
You didn’t include the ecogear balt 😩
Please give me specification of reel and rod to catch mangroos snaper
th-cam.com/video/eiB2hLOYHc8/w-d-xo.html
Hi mate I went to a plumbing store the other day to make myself a fishing raft and the cost of the pvc pipe alone with no ply or trolling motor was $450! All up with a trolling motor and ply it would of been around $700-800 when you can buy a fishing kayak for $400
why Timmy why
firstly i did not pay anything near that. i had a plumber friend who got all the materials for next to nothing, secondly building your own boat is much more rewarding, and thirdly cheap fishing kayaks you can only stand up in in super calm conditions. i wanted to be able to stand up the whole time i was fishing. thats why
Thanks for the reply great points. if you have got a good place to by cheap plumbing part please let me know. thanks again for the reply. your my favourite youtube by far because of you interesting fishing experiences and great ideas and creativity.
cheers max
Max Robards hey mate have you tried just going to Bunnings that's probably where I'm going to get the materials from and it's not as expensive as you found your materials from?
bunnings docent supply 150mm pipe only 100mm, i would go on gumtree and left over building supplies. a lot cheaper
Fishing With Timmy Turtle thanks great idea I'll give that a shot. You should fish clarrie hall dam for bass it look really promising and it's only about 1 hour for the Gold Coast?
Thanks
when prawns are running get yourself a fly rod , tie some shrimp patterns and hold on like fuck mate . you will have to wear ya brown shorts as they will get stained
thanks mate will have to learn how to fly fish for next season haha
Fishing With Timmy Turtle , i was never a fan of fly fishing for ages until a mate got me onto it . you will be surprised how well they work on shutdown fish . its as finesse as u can get and a good laugh for the viewers when ya get line burn from a big red heading for his home haha .
keep up the good work mate 🖒
haha i have always wanted to try it but know its going to open up a whole new can of worms and i can't afford the can of worms that I'm in at the moment haha
greaT looking creek system'