I actually print sublimation on the film and use the powder to be able to put on cotton also I have transfered the print onto permanent vinyl and used it for cup decals
This is what I'm wondering. It's DTF the same as sublimation? Do you use the same ink and such? Sounds like they're not exactly the same. It's one better than the other? Cheaper? Lasts longer?
@@HeartlandFamilyDesigns you can use sublimation ink, but you won't have white ink. This will solve the problem of having to use garments with high percentage of polyester though, but only on light garments without white ink. The work around for this would be to use white htv as a background before you press on to dark garments. So you can use sublimation ink with the dtf powder and film, but keep in mind that anything you are counting to show up as white, will not be visible on dark garments without that white ink. Many people convert their printer to dtf. That requires a software update and an automatic stirrer for the white ink to prevent clogging. I've seen these updates sold on usb dongles for under 100 dollars. It adds up to get started, but from my research, dtf is a cost effective solution to printing on any type of fabric (like 100% cotton) and it eliminates several steps.
Hey Guys! This was great! I just got my dtf printer and I'm wanting to experiment with tumblers...have you tried using a mug press? I think the pressure is what is missing to get the print to stick. The shrink wrap is a start but I think heavy pressure will help. I'll test it out and see what happens. Thanks so much for this video!
I had a Brother DTG printer that was a disaster. I spent 75% of the time just cleaning the print heads. I know you are using a DTF printer, but the technology is pretty much the same. You are correct; you have to keep using it on a daily basis (even on weekends) to keep the heads from gumming up, and the daily "automatic...(LOL)" cleaning process took an hour at minimum. And if it was printing white, it was a further time waster and required a separate pretreatment chemical application machine that was another $2500. The ink is very expensive. A head replacement was $1500 (and there are four heads). It cost me $25,000 when I bought it, and it has now sat in my garage under a tarp for the past 7 years. Biggest waste of money I have ever spent. Sometimes, I still wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat, just thinking about that evil machine in my garage....Run away, run away.
thats why your printer is cloggng, your using 100% white! you should have it at 65% color 55% white. keep your capping station wet with cleaning solution
This is the first video of yours I've seen. Have you tried powder coated aluminum? I'm thinking of having something made and am wondering if it's reasonable to ask them to try to put it on over the powder coat (it's the only way I can order the blank)
I've been researching how to print on hard surfaces. I've figured out how to print on garments etc, but from what I understand there is a special type of uv film for surfaces that would be difficult to press or apply with heat. You need A film and B film. You print on A and then send it through a laminator with film B and transfer it to your object like a decal without heat. Film B acts like a transfer tape like you would use with vinyl. It picks up the image and you apply it almost like a waterside decal. I didn't see any use of dtf powder with this process though, so I am not sure how it works. The materials seems pricey though and not so readily available for smaller scale projects. I'm wondering if it would be possible to use the regular dtf film with film b for transfer and using a regular laminator. I love the results I've seen professionals use and I'm determined to find out how to do it myself without buying more equipment. Thanks for sharing all your tests. You saved me a lot of testing myself. Lol Quick update... ok, you can't do it the way I was thinking because that system uses uvdtf ink and it's not the same as dtf ink.
After watching this video 6 months ago I purchased the same DTF unit you have (thank you for the recommendation 😉) I CANNOT seem to get the white like yours on a dark shirt (it becomes light grey when I press it) and I have tried everything I can.. including every DTF video you put out and black powder. LOL! I did notice today that I don't have "Image Type" in my RIP program to change it to photography. How did you get that in there? Also thank you so much for giving such great value! ❤
Question when you glue this to a plastic piece like a laptop for example how stick this to it or how good glue in to plastic, I don’t want something that peels of easy by time .thanks
Those plastisol inks must be a pain on print heads, & i guess they are not very sun friendly witthout a uv clear spray? Any paint panel to jean jacket texture works for me.
I’m thinking of converting a printer to dtf, however I see a lot of screen prints I don’t think I know the difference really have you looked into screenprinint
Hi! Nice works! I have a doubt, the redish "spray" arround "Kim" and the border of "Make it", I see a greenish "spray" too, is it in your logo or is a fault on the print itself? Thank you for sharing!
I am curious to hear of your findings regarding how well or how long this lasts on fabric items after washing and wearing. Also, do you know what the film is made of? If you used a seamless pattern on say a sheet of acrylic or wood could you cut it in the glowforge after the fact? That is something I'd really be curious to find out about.
Hey Robert! This was just for testing. We don't plan to sell them or keep them. The things we were going to keep I made those images. Thanks! 😃 ~garrett
Kim and Garrett you are making profit from your video using the images, you need to license them for impressions. You have options to use public domain images or those with creative commons designation if you dont want to buy images when financial gain is involved.
@@thedaxman3047 What do you do for a living? I create art that gets stolen, how about you? Would you be okay with your work being used for someone else's financial gain?
To me doesn't look as it discoloured the acrylic, is mor like the film around design shows up try make it larger than your acrylic and see how it looks
Are they two completely different things? I think you just use sublimation ink in a regular printer for that, but if you do DTF, do you need an entirely new separate printer?
OOOO!!! Thanks! I also got close at 350 for 30 seconds, cooled it all the way, then removed the film. Some of the small corners pealed up, but most of it stayed. ~garrett
I love that you made this video you both are the best thank you I have my printer coming 😊
I love this machine, it is awesome. Enjoyed you testing different materials and seeing the results.
Thank you!! We tried to be more informative
Dtf Is pretty cool. Felt like I was right there testing with you. Thanks again
Thanks for watching!!
Glad to see you. This direct to film is really nice
Thanks! We were LATE to upload lol
Very nice
First!! I’m first!!! Just started watching but can’t wait to watch and learn with you on this Friday!! You guys ROCK!!!!!
YOU ROCK! all first and everything! ~garrett
I actually print sublimation on the film and use the powder to be able to put on cotton also I have transfered the print onto permanent vinyl and used it for cup decals
This is what I'm wondering. It's DTF the same as sublimation? Do you use the same ink and such? Sounds like they're not exactly the same. It's one better than the other? Cheaper? Lasts longer?
Katerina, how does it wash when you use sublimation ink with the film, and powder? I have the dtf printer, but this is intriguing.
@@HeartlandFamilyDesigns you can use sublimation ink, but you won't have white ink. This will solve the problem of having to use garments with high percentage of polyester though, but only on light garments without white ink. The work around for this would be to use white htv as a background before you press on to dark garments. So you can use sublimation ink with the dtf powder and film, but keep in mind that anything you are counting to show up as white, will not be visible on dark garments without that white ink. Many people convert their printer to dtf. That requires a software update and an automatic stirrer for the white ink to prevent clogging. I've seen these updates sold on usb dongles for under 100 dollars. It adds up to get started, but from my research, dtf is a cost effective solution to printing on any type of fabric (like 100% cotton) and it eliminates several steps.
Oh I see now you have the L 1800
Hi. You need the uv dtf printer. And i really like no love that you show the setting. That is really helpful
That’s what I also asked. I thought they used a dtf for garment and i thought the uv dtf uses other ink
Have you tried the DTF on a metal tumbler heat press machine? I cannot find anything that shows that example.
Hey Guys! This was great! I just got my dtf printer and I'm wanting to experiment with tumblers...have you tried using a mug press? I think the pressure is what is missing to get the print to stick. The shrink wrap is a start but I think heavy pressure will help. I'll test it out and see what happens. Thanks so much for this video!
I would suggest a mug press for the water bottles
then you can have the pressure you want
Can y’all do a video on the basics of designing our own images ?
I had a Brother DTG printer that was a disaster. I spent 75% of the time just cleaning the print heads. I know you are using a DTF printer, but the technology is pretty much the same. You are correct; you have to keep using it on a daily basis (even on weekends) to keep the heads from gumming up, and the daily "automatic...(LOL)" cleaning process took an hour at minimum. And if it was printing white, it was a further time waster and required a separate pretreatment chemical application machine that was another $2500. The ink is very expensive. A head replacement was $1500 (and there are four heads). It cost me $25,000 when I bought it, and it has now sat in my garage under a tarp for the past 7 years. Biggest waste of money I have ever spent. Sometimes, I still wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat, just thinking about that evil machine in my garage....Run away, run away.
thats why your printer is cloggng, your using 100% white! you should have it at 65% color 55% white. keep your capping station wet with cleaning solution
also should print at color mix and white mix evens out for curing
What’s the capping station? Is that where the ink wells before being sucked by the waste ink?
This is the first video of yours I've seen. Have you tried powder coated aluminum? I'm thinking of having something made and am wondering if it's reasonable to ask them to try to put it on over the powder coat (it's the only way I can order the blank)
What shrink wraps do you use? Mine have melted.
it probably didn't stick to the tumbler because you didn't clean it first. the oils from your hands will hinder the glue.
Can't wait for a price breakdown
I've been researching how to print on hard surfaces. I've figured out how to print on garments etc, but from what I understand there is a special type of uv film for surfaces that would be difficult to press or apply with heat. You need A film and B film. You print on A and then send it through a laminator with film B and transfer it to your object like a decal without heat. Film B acts like a transfer tape like you would use with vinyl. It picks up the image and you apply it almost like a waterside decal. I didn't see any use of dtf powder with this process though, so I am not sure how it works. The materials seems pricey though and not so readily available for smaller scale projects. I'm wondering if it would be possible to use the regular dtf film with film b for transfer and using a regular laminator. I love the results I've seen professionals use and I'm determined to find out how to do it myself without buying more equipment. Thanks for sharing all your tests. You saved me a lot of testing myself. Lol
Quick update... ok, you can't do it the way I was thinking because that system uses uvdtf ink and it's not the same as dtf ink.
After watching this video 6 months ago I purchased the same DTF unit you have (thank you for the recommendation 😉) I CANNOT seem to get the white like yours on a dark shirt (it becomes light grey when I press it) and I have tried everything I can.. including every DTF video you put out and black powder. LOL! I did notice today that I don't have "Image Type" in my RIP program to change it to photography. How did you get that in there? Also thank you so much for giving such great value! ❤
Ok
Question when you glue this to a plastic piece like a laptop for example how stick this to it or how good glue in to plastic, I don’t want something that peels of easy by time .thanks
Those plastisol inks must be a pain on print heads, & i guess they are not very sun friendly witthout a uv clear spray?
Any paint panel to jean jacket texture works for me.
I’m thinking of converting a printer to dtf, however I see a lot of screen prints I don’t think I know the difference really have you looked into screenprinint
We have! IT's just too much equipment for what we need!
Hi! Nice works! I have a doubt, the redish "spray" arround "Kim" and the border of "Make it", I see a greenish "spray" too, is it in your logo or is a fault on the print itself? Thank you for sharing!
Hey Leonardo! The haze or green shadow was our logo, I added a dropshadow in Illustrator. I took it off and it looks a lot more crisp. ~garrett
I am curious to hear of your findings regarding how well or how long this lasts on fabric items after washing and wearing. Also, do you know what the film is made of? If you used a seamless pattern on say a sheet of acrylic or wood could you cut it in the glowforge after the fact? That is something I'd really be curious to find out about.
We'll definitely follow up with this!°
@@KimandGarrettmakeit that would be great!
For transferring to metal, is this just a regular DTF print?
I'm surprised to see that you're using Adobe Stock photos without paying for it. You have the watermark showing in the one of the prints
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Hey Robert! This was just for testing. We don't plan to sell them or keep them. The things we were going to keep I made those images. Thanks! 😃 ~garrett
Kim and Garrett you are making profit from your video using the images, you need to license them for impressions.
You have options to use public domain images or those with creative commons designation if you dont want to buy images when financial gain is involved.
FFS relax. Who are these copyright police? Calm the hell down
@@thedaxman3047 What do you do for a living? I create art that gets stolen, how about you? Would you be okay with your work being used for someone else's financial gain?
@@CarrieStephens I am an Investment Manager. My work is ALWAYS for someone else's financial gain.
A png is always going to be your better choice over a jpg
Hi, how do you like the dtf L1800 so far? Wonder should I purchase L1800, prestige or prolonged. Thanks
Can you please tell which type of ink and powder you use
i do 40 color 55white
To me doesn't look as it discoloured the acrylic, is mor like the film around design shows up try make it larger than your acrylic and see how it looks
Do you have to always set the colors on each item
Does dtf work on those glass cans ??
How do you connect to your computer
Isn’t the dtf ink for garment?
What printer do you have?
I don't think you mentioned what type of printer machine you are using. Is it a sublimation machine? I'm confused easily hahah 🤣
Its DTF! And thanks for the feedback
Are they two completely different things? I think you just use sublimation ink in a regular printer for that, but if you do DTF, do you need an entirely new separate printer?
@@HeartlandFamilyDesigns yes is a different technique.
I tried the mug today and it looked promising 311 degrees for 75 seconds. So I’m thinking maybe 90 seconds
OOOO!!! Thanks! I also got close at 350 for 30 seconds, cooled it all the way, then removed the film. Some of the small corners pealed up, but most of it stayed. ~garrett
@@KimandGarrettmakeit same here, it started peeling on the edges. I’ll try later today for the 90 seconds and post an update.
do 1440x720 1440x720 DPI it will print a little faster
So it’s true, you have print or do maintenance daily SMH. Just when I was about to buy one.
Yeah it's tricky
I'm wondering about DTF with sublimation ink on powder coated tumblers.....does that work?
OOOh I'd be down to try
Did you try DTF on glass yet?
How does it feel on fabric compared to vinyl on shirts?
I have a procolor 1800 and it has a very smooth feel and stretchable. It doesn't have a bumpy feel like htv.
What heat press did you end up getting?
Heat press nation press!
Did I hear that right it takes 20 minutes to do one print
YES! Very slow
Do color 1440x1440 but the white 1440x720 and it cuts the time in half but still excellent print
where did you get the type holder ?
Hm?