Weedeater engine Hughes 300 RC Helicopter and Space Shuttle launched from RC plane-1982
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- In 1982 I was flying this Hughes 300 Helicopter with a Weedeater, Echo 120 Gas engine. It was a favorite and easy to start, plus see other antics in this Vintage footage. If anyone knows where I can get another one of these helicopters, I would be very interested. It was a Kobe Kiko, but there is no identifying marks. I miss those days and my friends. Thanks for watching and subscribing.
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This reminds me of my petrol Bell 47 that I had, 40 years ago with my Futaba radio, I used to fly at baiter point every Sunday in the summer, and belonged to the Southern Flying Club and loved it, started flying helicopters with my Hirobo 707 bubble and boom.
So thanks for the Video and memories, but now at 78 it's just distant memories. Cheers Bob in the UK, PS sorry no replacement.
That is a great story. Thanks so kindly.
I have joined your channel just for the memories thanks so much, the shuttle launch was awesome!!
Thanks so kindly for that. I appreciate you.
I am still amazed at how stable this Chopper is, I wonder why this idea never took off, No pun intended.
They were made in Japan and I paid $1000 for this, and it was used! Probably it was the cost. That was a lot of money back then in the 70's and could be the reason.
This hobby has changed so much in 35 years... and yet, it has changed so little! Thanks for sharing, as always!
Very well said. Thanks very kindly for your insight.
Yep, old and damaged video tapes look pretty good, and I add, you and I had that youthful look, and that's what makes it the good old days! Thanks Der Dave, for sharing this video tape. Oorah, Bud
Absolutely Extraordinary! And No Gyro. 95% of RC Pilots today could never fly this or take the time to learn and practice flying a model that required this amount of time investment. I really love this video.
Thanks so very kindly. I appreciate the kudos and totally agree.
Yep, truly extraordinary! I couldn't fly my Kalt Baron 20 without gyro back then. My Concept 30sr had rate gyro but I never felt comfortable flying it until they came out with heading hold gyro.
Isn't it great to see middle aged adolescents trying crazy stuff? Never hurts to not grow up once in awhile...especially when it's going back in time a ways.
The eighties was still pretty much old school. Its amazing how much we have gained in the RC field. I wasnt flying back then because I was raising a family back then and money was always tight. That and I was into snowmobiles. My brothers were into RC and I finally got back into it again. The things we did back in the 70's with our nitro toys. What fun.
Nice story and glad your back. Thanks kindly.
Epic Shuttle launch. Cheers for sharing the video.
Yes, I really like these old videos.
Hi Martin. Thank you. I will do more when I can.
this is 40 years ago and still better than any battery powered rc heli u can get.
Nice video. Thanks for uploading
Thanks much.
Those look like what you would call the "good ole days".
They were. Thank you kindly.
NightFlyyer and thank you Sir for taking the time to share them with us!
Ah, the good ol' Mattel Messerschmidt. I learned to fly helicopters in this, not the model but what the Army called the TH-55.
Mattel Messerschmidt? Where?
@@NightFlyyer That was the nickname we gave the TH-55 (Hughes 300) helicopters in US Army primary flight school at Fort Wolters, Texas, near Dallas-Ft Worth area. I went through in 1969. After primary, we went to Fort Rucker, Alabama for instrument training (under the hood for the entire time) then transition to Hueys. After graduation they offered me my choice of advanced training and I went to Ft Hunter/Stewart in Savannah, Georgia. Nowadays I fly the mighty little Eachine E-129 in my front yard.
@@phapnui Ah. I was in Nam in 1969 and with RF4B Phantoms in the USMC, so never heard that term. Thanks for serving and Semper Fi from the ole Top. Happy flying.
yes DAVE !!!....enjoy all you do..please share.
That was awesome!! You always have great videos. The shuttle launch was spectacular!
Thanks. I am very happy you enjoy them. I appreciate your comments.
Now that is very cool. Awesome hover with no gyro!! Great vid.
Thanks Don. When you learn without knowing what a gyro was, it was easier. Thanks again.
NightFlyyer Keep those vintage videos coming please...
Thank you for sharing. Takes me back to my nitro days. Nothing quite like the sound and smells of burning fuel and tinkering.
You got that right. Thanks Steve.
i would just like to say that your videos are more than appreciated and it's almost like we know you somehow due to your obvious genuine nature. no response is necessary as i know how much time you invest already in responding to us. just know that we love. :)
Thank you for the very kind words, Mike. I appreciate that a lot.
Thank you for the very kind words, Mike. I appreciate that a lot.
Thank you sir
So glad you were able to recover some of this old footage! Would love to see more!
Hi Ben. Me too. I will try to put some more together and appreciate your comments a lot.
This is the kind of stuff I do with my model flight friends. It's fascinating to see this through a 'time-lense.' Times aren't all that different. Keep putting out USD-A Grade vids!
Dave, Yes! More vintage videos!! Thank you very much! :-)
Haha! You guys were really crazy! Flying on a highway, and all the experiments! Looks like fun!
Yes, the road dead ends at the San Juan Landfill dump, which was closed on Sundays, so traffic was minimal. It was a good place to experiment for sure. Thanks for the comments.
One nice heli, Sir. Those engines were popular in the nitro boats,also & glad to see electric technology come so far, while were still here.😬
So true. Thanks very much and I agree with you!
Once again you make things look effortless, a real joy watch. Ps like watching an episode of MASH.... Awesome
Ah..... I loved Mash also gone now. Thanks very kindly for your comments. I really appreciate them.
I really love the old videos of your flying, awesome stuff 👍🇺🇸👍
Thank you very much. I appreciate it very much.
I love old rc video ! Please more
I thank you sir. I will do what I can to find more.
I love your vintage vids and your commentary, it's always a great time warp!
Thanks Eric. I appreciate that. I'm getting warped more and more!
O my god that jaguar e type in the background!!! I love your videos keep them up! :)
My Jag was a favorite I wish I still had for sure. Thanks kindly for your kind words.
hi,, I had 2 of the 300 heli, they were a lot of fun back in the 70,s it was good to see you flying , the heli, I flew my heli for 2 yrs, and never crash them they were a good heli to fly and my first flight was in a 25 mh wind, I had more fun with it than the ones you can buy to day, I do have a 500 electric, with a gyro, on it, it not the same as the good old 300, I been flying sents 1954 I was flying my 300 in the 70,s up to 1975, it was hard to get parts for it all so, i had 2 helis, not 2 many people could fly the 300, I flew it all the time my first flight was in a 25 mph wind, flew real good,,
They were the same as this one? I had a Kyosho concept 30 with Hughes 300 body. I always liked the MASH style. Thanks for the comments.
Beautiful E-Type!
Thank you. Wish I still had it.
Great insight into RC of the past, love it! Very few of these videos guess not everybody had video camera back then ;). Keep them coming!
Oh yes.. the JAG... KILLER JAG!!!
Well done Dave. Is awesome that you were able to save such a good memory.
LOL. Thanks. Its getting worse though.
Nice E-Type!! Would be worth a few $$$ now!!
This is fantastic!
Great memories Dave! Cool to see some RC history in the making. :)
Thanks Jason. I appreciate that.
Post it all man ........!
we love it
Dave,
Great video. The shuttle launch was awesome. The Hughes 300 brings back memories of assembling a Dubro Shark back in 75 that was powered by a glow fuel converted O&R gas engine. It was also a pull start, but spat out more fuel than it used. Wish they had kept it gas. It was a fixed pitch heli that hovered OK, When Dubro came out with a collective pitch upgrade, it made the heli much better, but back then were no gyros, as you have mentioned. Went back to flying planes until Schluter came out with the Champion, which was a very good heli and now gyros were available. Bought the Schluter Scout and also a Hirobo Shuttle. Still have them all and the Shuttle is being converted to electric.
Just checked your channel and sorry to see the loss of your home.
Hi. You have the heli experience all right. Great stuff. A fellow sent me a Hirobo Shuttle ZX all in pieces. I have put it back together, with new radio etc and when the snow melts, I will be flying it for old times. Thanks for your comments and kind words.
Great video of the past. This beautiful chopper was easy to fly?
Which video camera was used?
Beautiful launch of space shuttle. It was by fuse or servo mechanism?
Thanks for sharing👍👍👍
Now that's what you call a whirl y bird , not those things they have now . I guess I am showing my age , God Bless you Dave .
Thanks kindly. I appreciate that. I am showing my age too, when I show videos like this. LOL. God bless you as well.
That's so Awesome Dave ! Wow 1982 ! Classic
Amazing, this video is a real Gem! Thank you very much for sharing! born in 82 :)
Thank you very much for watching and your comments too, there borne in '82!
Was this filmed on Ortega hwy? My Dad taught me to fly RC at Camp Pendleton. We used to go to the air shows in El Toro before it closed. Love the nostalgia!
Always worth watching your videos as there always enjoyable
Great video Dave! Wow that brings back so many memories for me being little and watching all the dads play with their RC cars or planes. the hughes helicopter will always be my favorite I watched Magnum PI just to see the car and to see TC's hughes helicopter those were the two favorite things about that show. I hope someone comes through with a hughes 300 for you you guys looked like you were havin some fun out there. If you find any more cool footage we would love to see it. I was 3 or 4 back then Dave and remember every summer of each age vividly Im almost 40 now and this video just brought back so many cool memories thanks for sharing this!
I am so very happy to read your comments and glad to have awakened your old memories. I thank you very kindly, and for your warm comments too.
I like the heli pilot figure smashed up against the windscreen.
LOL.
Nice video. A big thanks here from Norway. Nice
That was fun! Glad you were able to recover the video..
Thanks Corky. Me too.
I had one just like it. It was a kit made by dubro and had a 23 cc gas motor I sold it years ago But it was very stable and fun to fly.
Dubro is a usa company known for making clevises, control horns, wheels, and hardware. I never knew they made gas helis. Mine was definitely a Hirobo though, made in Japan. Thanks.
Mine was actually the Dubro Hughes 300 and there is a video on you tube that looks just like mine check it out. Vintage heli- 1974 Hughes 300. and if I remember right the rotor span was around 72 inches. After about 5 years of flying it I hit some tall grass with My tail rotor and striped the gears in the tail rotor gear box and I couldn't find parts for it so I sold it. But I kind of wish I still had it.
I was mostly into RC Pattern planes in 79. That heli you had was a DUB-RO and they stopped manufacturing them around 1977. I did not start flying helis seriously till 1979 when I worked at Kraft RC systems and met up with John SImone, the national helicopter champion who owned American RC helicopters and began learning on his Mantis helis, and later worked with him in the movie Blue Thunder. I only bought was actually available and why I did not know about it. I wish you still had it too. Id buy it.
That big Hughes 300 is amazing to see now. I'm sure it was unbelievable back in '82. You really fly it like a champion. Also, who was the helpful guy @ 4:30 saying, "Lift it up... Get the plane off the ground?" Because you probably wouldn't have know what you were supposed to do if he hadn't been there. LOL I guess some people just can't help it...
That was Dave. It was his glider. Bud who said get it off the ground worked at Rockwell on the Shuttle model prototype and we later test flew that for them. He felt the ground was holding it in the downwash and stiction. He wanted some one to hold it up off the ground and try it, like a hand launch. This heli had no gyro, so of course it took some work to simply it, but it flew in fwd flight beautifully. Thanks much.
sweet video.im glad now a days we have them gyro s....2 thumbs up!!
For sure. Gyros helped many get into helicopters with less crashing and a smaller learning curve. Thanks kindly.
Very cool video bro Dave!! The helicopter almost looked like a scene from MASH :) Thumb's up!~John
I thank you sir. I loved MASH. Its another thing time has swept away.
What great footage! Thanks for sharing. I would love to see more videos like this. Take care Dave. -Jamie
Okay. Thanks kindly Jamie
I think i saw one of the 269c rc helis like yours at the Hobby Barn in Huntsville Alabama last spring. I think they just were using it for display. Call them,ask for Rick
Amazing really cool
Thanks very much.
you make it all look easy
It took lots of crashing and learning back then prior to this day for sure. Thanks kindly.
You mean the PGE? Or pre-gyro era? LoL. Seriously check e-bay, all the old classic birds show up there. And the prices are CHEAP!
It is definitely a Kobe Kiko machine. I used to work for the U.S. importer (in the early 1980's).
Yes, as I said in the Video notes too. Thanks. Can you still get one for me?
@@NightFlyyer I wish I could!
That Jag!
Wish I still had him! Thanks.
Final Report:
Dumpmaster Rocket Command official (RktMan), added that "getting orbit would
have been frosting the cake" but primary and most secondary objectives were met.
The flight was delayed by ignition wiring anomalies (as seen in the video), and sub- sequent holds were caused by a series of minor problems but the Space Shuttle finally blasted off like a bat out of hell and parachute recovery brought the craft down to a soft landing. Conclusion: The Mission was successfully completed by the Dumpmaster team and the next project was a F100 Rocket attached to the bottom of Dave’s Scimitar that “Threw it!” as stated by Dave when the rocket fired..!
Yes, those were the days Dave, from: RktMan
Yep there were many holds but we never gave up. Those challenges were fun and I miss those days rocket man. Be well and thanks for the comments. Der Dave
Yes indeed more would be quite cool Dave... Thank you.... :o)
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Thank you very very much for everything.
Way cool! I'm wondering how exactly you control this without a gyro? are you constantly give rudder input or is the heli set up with a certain mechanical gain to keep the nose pointed in the direction you control it?
Gyros are only effective when you increase, decrease pitch or move throttle up and down. At constant speed, gyro is not used much. It is only when you move the throttle they take effect and compensate as torque and anti torque gets involved. Otherwise, I learned without a gyro and why it was hard for heli pilots to learn back in the days. You had to constantly move the rudder stick to compensate, hence why I pinch the left stick. Good question. Thanks.
Gyros are only effective when you increase, decrease pitch or move throttle up and down. At constant speed, gyro is not used much. It is only when you move the throttle they take effect and compensate as torque and anti torque gets involved. Otherwise, I learned without a gyro and why it was hard for heli pilots to learn back in the days. You had to constantly move the rudder stick to compensate, hence why I pinch the left stick. Good question. Thanks.
Gyros are only effective when you increase, decrease pitch or move throttle up and down. At constant speed, gyro is not used much. It is only when you move the throttle they take effect and compensate as torque and anti torque gets involved. Otherwise, I learned without a gyro and why it was hard for heli pilots to learn back in the days. You had to constantly move the rudder stick to compensate, hence why I pinch the left stick. Good question. Thanks.
I've only ever flown on HH mode on my gyros. I failed to take that into account when I asked tha question. I have however flown on rate mode on a sim, so would I be correct in saying that a heli without a gyro would also act the same?
Watching you fly a heli from the same year I was born makes me realize just how far these models have come. How did you learn back then? Buddy cords? Obviously no Sims back on those days
The sim does not correct the same as in real life on rate mode. Aerofly comes close, but still not the same. We did not use buddy cords back then as the control pilot could not act fast enough. We learned by trial and error. It took me 6 months of incredible and frustrating practice just to learn to hover, and my Tutor was John Simone Jr. He was the National Helicopter champion at the time and manufactured his own Helicopters in his company, American RC helicopters. I learned on a Mantis. When his company burned down, I began flying Kyosho Concept 30's and actually wound up writing articles for the magazines, including Rotory for Mike Mas, another Nationals Champion, where I did a product review on the Nexus 30SX. Your right, things have really changed and helis are are easy today.
Sir .. what is the specification of the engine , and weight of the craft
Sorry I am not sure. It was about 9 Lbs, The engine was an Echo 120 Gas Weedeater engine.
awesome video. Semper Fi
Thank you and semper Fi to you as well.
Great video. Keep them coming Dave.
Will Do. Thank you sir.
Yah that was awesome
E-BAY has a few of these helis various chinese mfg's. I buy a lot of helis on e-bay and they are cheap for the old gasser's. And they are VERY scale. Good luck!
very cool
Thank you.
some guys from my club are really old school like that. flying heli's that are intended to fly with fbl systems with absolutely no gyro at all. not even a flybar head to stabilize the Heli. that's hardcore..
Yes. We never knew any better until gyros came along and made heli flying easier. Thanks for the comments.
Wow.
More vintage videos please
Thank you. Please stay tuned.
Awesome!!!!
the guys on my forum say that's a Kobe Kiko.
I told them you still might be interested in the hirobo 3 blade.
That may be as I stated in the video notes. It has no Identifying marks on it anywhere. Thanks.
You and Jeff need to have some more fun with Rocket motors again and try to recreate that Shuttle launch that would be cool .
That is a thought, but I don't have all those disposable planes anymore to put rockets on since the fire, but thanks and who knows.....
I remember reading your articles in the School library when I was in middle School .
wicked bad ass, i want. call aero hobbies lewisville, tx
I guess the shiny jag was from the heli pilot and the beat up van from the airplane guy? :)
The Jag was mine and I wish I still had it.
NightFlyer that sure was a Nice video & your good @ Flying everything Dave ! I have a Friend Dave & he is about our age & I''l send him the Video on the Hughes 300 RC Helicopter -1982 & see what he says ! Thanks for the Video !
Thank you. I appreciate that.
Nightflyer Dave I talked to my friend Dave & he said he remembered those Helicopters ! But they were just going out of use when he started flying though ! He said your head speed must have been high in order to control that tail ! He doesn't know of any of them around though !
Thanks for checking. Actually the head speed doesn't cause the problem of torque. At constant speed, (no matter what the speed) the gyro is not used much! It is the speeding up or down or increasing/decreasing pitch that causes the tail to swing. As long as the head speed is constant, there is not much torque applied and is easy. Its is landing or accelerating that causes you to get busy on the tail rotor stick, hence why I pinch the left stick. You cant afford to "drop" it. Today's head speeds are much higher. Thanks again.
nice, wish i could afford me those motors
Thanks. Keep working and who knows what you can get in time.
My dad has one that has never been flown and still comes with the operating manual.. No controller though..
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Is it possible to share the project details
You can share this video. As far as any other details than what is in the description box, I don't remember much as this was done 40 years ago.
Hobby Town USA might have them.
Hi there
Did you manage to get another kkk hughes 300 i got by me in the uk
must be hard to control that tail with no gyro?
awesome helicopter and video man you look skinny back then just kidding I would like to see more videos please I've been watching you fight for a couple of years now God Bless
Thanks. I wish I was still skinny and still had those helis. Thanks for the comments and chuckle, Gregory.
Thanks. I wish I was still skinny and still had those helis. Thanks for the comments and chuckle, Gregory.
That's back when you was still a a young whipper snapper
Haha, yes a ripe young 35. LOL Thanks.
Smoking around rocket engines. Funny stuff.
Hi, Dave, i hope all is well.
So far so good. Thanks
Bravo Dave! Too bad nowadays you could get a big fat fine for using a road as a runway. Different times now sadly.
Hi Lorenzo. Well it was just a service road that dead ended at the Dump and closed on Sundays and evenings. We fly on the roads around here a lot too, but the Sheriffs all know me, so I guess we are lucky. Flying sights are hard to find for sure. Thanks.
Pilot looks to be a bit squished in the Hughes 300 :)
Ah, maybe, but he doesnt crash! LOL.
Hey man what country do u live in ?
Any chance someone could build that ?
With a engine that size you may have to go to Vario tho
looks like the 4077 Mash
Yes, another great past time show that is no more. Thanks.
LOL you should have said does anybody know where I can find 2 of them so you have spare parts but I know that's imposable .
Well, I dont have the helicopter at all, and remember I paid about $2000 for the first one, so having 2 is out of my price range now that the fire destroyed all my models and home, but thanks.
I have one but for Years no time for testing. It has old principle rotorhead, origin servo mixing, origin big gyro. I dont know about dimension od origin rotorblades but have no origin Book of Instructions.
Hirobo still manufactures a nitro Hughes 300, in a tri rotor flybarless also. Hirobofanusa website
why not try 3Dprint the damaged part
This was in 1982, 40 years ago. No 3d printers then. Also a servo failed and when it crashed, it destroyed most of the helicopter and it was all metal parts. Not just 1 part was damaged. The whole helicopter was ruined in the crash.
post in the flying section of remote control forums, something will pop up
Thanks kindly.
What one