He Simplifies some of the most hard to grasp aspects of biology and bioelectricity. His students are blessed with a teacher who can make a tough course into an adventure that they won't want to end. The future is bright and we will change and adapt or be left far behind! 🖖 Live long and help all agents prosper.
Michael might be the most important scientist/philosopher of our time. If what he is working on is applicable to humans alone would be a leap forward into a new age of possibilities. But even if not, his ideas may change computer learning, or philosophy, theory of mind. Just brilliant.
Agreed. The science he's working on threatens so many industries that rely on human parts wearing out and/or not working properly. He's even shown how to 'silence' cancer.
At 22:37, when Dr. Levin talked about change not being optional for organisms seeking to survive, the following came to mind: "The only hope, or else despair Lies in the choice of pyre [or] pyre-- To be redeemed from fire by fire. ... We only live, only suspire Consumed by either fire or fire." -- T.S. Elliot, "Four Quartets" /Little Gidding/ It was the part where he referred to the fact that only organisms that are willing to commit to change and adapt will persist, but, in the act of adapting they are no longer the same organism and therefore persisting unchanged is actually not possible. These ideas are just healthy for my brain to chew on. I just am grateful for the hope these advances give me for our future.
"Turns out we were using the wrong prompt" Funny the same problem keeps cropping up with AI. To the point that prompt writing is becoming a profession. Fascinating video. Thanks Michael.
'Tumor cells stop contributing to the grandiose construction projects like muscles and so forth.' This is such Dan Dennett thing to say. This work is pushing bio philosophy forward in fascinating ways.
19:10 - Wow - Bow tie networks are structured exactly like autoencoders and seem to have the same function (You point this out at 24:00) - "compressing representations" and course-graining. Was that unintentionally biomimetic for the coders that created the architecture? Just one of the hundred fascinating things in this talk. Great work!
I heard a lot of the same language as you hear with LLMs. Latent space, memory , confabulation and more, though I imagine LLMs can’t access the same diversity in outputs as biological systems
Thank you for another great interview with Michael Levin! Psychologist John Kotre wrote about the “open spaces” in memory that we can fill with meaning in the present to make memories relevant in the current moment. The book where he presented this idea is called I used that model of memory to write a memoir in which the memory is presented and then a reflection fills the open spaces with meaning relevant to the current moment. Thank you, Michael, for your wonderful work!
wow, this is incredibly interesting. You can see humans doing this all the time. As well as in myself in reflection. Knowledge of this kind of thing leaves crowds of people very vulnerable to manipulation.
What an incredible talk. Extremely important to the understanding of evolution. Such a pity that the moderators cut him off so abruptly. For questions? Michael, could you please do a codicil talk, where you pick up where you left off? We really want to hear the rest.
According to David Bohm and Karl Pribram, the human mind is a hologram which attunes itself to the universal hologram by the medium of energy exchange thereby deducing meaning. To make sense of what the holographic image is “saying” to it, the mind proceeds to compare the image just received with itself. It does this by comparing the image received with that part of its own hologram which constitutes memory. By registering differences in geometric form and in energy frequency, the consciousness perceives.
Based on what is being discussed in this video, if we can understand deeper what's going on, I believe we could seriously hack our biology to do all kinds of weird and wonderful things.😮
The scaling of a collective distributed mathematical pattern performing diverse tasks across the genetic scale has 368,640 balanced ways to distribute 1 sequentially numbered 8x8 Standard Table of DNA Codons. The resonant relationships at development states does indeed seem to be between the distribution of values and function needed\exhibited in the genetic code... SYMBOLS... archetypes we need to learn... the mathematics is in the Symbolism...like a bee dancing to let its hive know the location of the flowers laden with information.
I think that worm has a memory to regenerate the same or similar brain and therefore can remember the prior learning. If this is not going on, then I don't know where the actual learning memory is being stored.
Hi Michael Please read my note on QUORA on this topic please: ONE MENTAL STATE as in human beings or ONE COMMON_MENTAL_STATE TEST [Planarian, salamander, Starfish] : Sep-10-2024 sunildudia quora
Michael Levin, the GOAT 🐐
I am a simple man - I see a video of him, I watch it
He Simplifies some of the most hard to grasp aspects of biology and bioelectricity. His students are blessed with a teacher who can make a tough course into an adventure that they won't want to end. The future is bright and we will change and adapt or be left far behind! 🖖 Live long and help all agents prosper.
It's always a great way to learn something.
Michael might be the most important scientist/philosopher of our time. If what he is working on is applicable to humans alone would be a leap forward into a new age of possibilities. But even if not, his ideas may change computer learning, or philosophy, theory of mind. Just brilliant.
Couldn’t agree more
This guy deserves the Nobel Prize, seriously!
Agreed. The science he's working on threatens so many industries that rely on human parts wearing out and/or not working properly. He's even shown how to 'silence' cancer.
At 22:37, when Dr. Levin talked about change not being optional for organisms seeking to survive, the following came to mind:
"The only hope, or else despair
Lies in the choice of pyre [or] pyre--
To be redeemed from fire by fire.
...
We only live, only suspire
Consumed by either fire or fire."
-- T.S. Elliot, "Four Quartets"
/Little Gidding/
It was the part where he referred to the fact that only organisms that are willing to commit to change and adapt will persist, but, in the act of adapting they are no longer the same organism and therefore persisting unchanged is actually not possible.
These ideas are just healthy for my brain to chew on.
I just am grateful for the hope these advances give me for our future.
Yes it's natural to change for living being. It's also natural that *Natural selection does its job.
"Turns out we were using the wrong prompt" Funny the same problem keeps cropping up with AI. To the point that prompt writing is becoming a profession. Fascinating video. Thanks Michael.
If you could not only regenerate tissues and organs, but find a way to speed up the process, then this would be something akin to Star Trek medicine.
Amazing they paused Levin right before he shared his latest understanding of Thoughts as Thinkers. Very much looking forward to that slide!
'Tumor cells stop contributing to the grandiose construction projects like muscles and so forth.' This is such Dan Dennett thing to say. This work is pushing bio philosophy forward in fascinating ways.
give this man a nobel fucking prize
19:10 - Wow - Bow tie networks are structured exactly like autoencoders and seem to have the same function (You point this out at 24:00) - "compressing representations" and course-graining. Was that unintentionally biomimetic for the coders that created the architecture? Just one of the hundred fascinating things in this talk. Great work!
I heard a lot of the same language as you hear with LLMs. Latent space, memory , confabulation and more, though I imagine LLMs can’t access the same diversity in outputs as biological systems
Thank you for another great interview with Michael Levin! Psychologist John Kotre wrote about the “open spaces” in memory that we can fill with meaning in the present to make memories relevant in the current moment. The book where he presented this idea is called I used that model of memory to write a memoir in which the memory is presented and then a reflection fills the open spaces with meaning relevant to the current moment.
Thank you, Michael, for your wonderful work!
Next-Generation Biomedicine: yes, that’s what we’re ready for.
Thanks 🙏 Love 💗
wow, this is incredibly interesting. You can see humans doing this all the time. As well as in myself in reflection. Knowledge of this kind of thing leaves crowds of people very vulnerable to manipulation.
What an incredible talk. Extremely important to the understanding of evolution. Such a pity that the moderators cut him off so abruptly. For questions? Michael, could you please do a codicil talk, where you pick up where you left off? We really want to hear the rest.
the bow tie architecture reminds me of the angel in jung’s mandala which reminds me of the magnetosphere which reminds me of toroidal circuitry
OMG! Thank you so much for all that you're doing I absolutely love your work😅🎉😅😮
The mathematical origins may come from cellular receptors (see my book: Origins of Life's Sensoria").
According to David Bohm and Karl Pribram, the human mind is a hologram which attunes itself to the universal hologram by the medium of energy exchange thereby deducing meaning.
To make sense of what the holographic image is “saying” to it, the mind proceeds to compare the image just received with itself.
It does this by comparing the image received with that part of its own hologram which constitutes memory. By registering differences in geometric form and in energy frequency, the consciousness perceives.
Sorry…that book by John Kotre is “White Gloves: How we create ourselves through memory.”
Based on what is being discussed in this video, if we can understand deeper what's going on, I believe we could seriously hack our biology to do all kinds of weird and wonderful things.😮
The scaling of a collective distributed mathematical pattern performing diverse tasks across the genetic scale has 368,640 balanced ways to distribute 1 sequentially numbered 8x8 Standard Table of DNA Codons. The resonant relationships at development states does indeed seem to be between the distribution of values and function needed\exhibited in the genetic code... SYMBOLS... archetypes we need to learn... the mathematics is in the Symbolism...like a bee dancing to let its hive know the location of the flowers laden with information.
I think that worm has a memory to regenerate the same or similar brain and therefore can remember the prior learning. If this is not going on, then I don't know where the actual learning memory is being stored.
I want to know so much more😅
I would have been happy for questions to be skipped, and have the presentation complete 😐. Cut too short.
bout tonstart telling girls their bowtie crooked😂😂😂
I feel I should mention caterpillars also navigate in 3d space, just not to as much of a degree as butterflies.
So strange and confabulated. Looking over the shards and making a reality
Hi Michael Please read my note on QUORA on this topic please: ONE MENTAL STATE as in human beings or ONE COMMON_MENTAL_STATE TEST [Planarian, salamander, Starfish] : Sep-10-2024
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