Really useful comparison thank you. I am blown away by the Oreston, to my eye it appears sharper than the Helios, has more contrast and has the bokeh I am comfortable with. The bonus is the close focusing distance 😊 Thanks again👍
Thanks for watching. The Oreston is really a bit of an underrated vintage lens I think. You can also find it as a m42 "Pentacon 50mm" Those are later versions, but perform the same.
i got the later version of the oreston, rebranded pentacon prakticar, and several versions of helios,,, i reconize your results and thanks you a million times for this wonderful way of comparing, brilliant, and i too love both brand / lenses
Really like the method and delivery of comparison, have a couple of Helios that I am happy with seriously considering a Meyer Optik Gorlitz. Thank You for review.
Thank You for sharing. I'm in vintage lenses, and this test is awesome. I have both, my favorite is the Preston ;) (night pics in your vid are amazing, stars on the bulbs are so sharp on the Preston. I like also the "hexagonal" bokeh on the flowers... :) Greetings from Belgium.
Hello! I have both of these lenses, both SUPEER! My HELIOS is a little bit sharper wide open, but the Meyer-Optik Görlitz Oreston is my choice! Both lenses are very atmospheric wide open, but the Meyer-Optik Görlitz Oreston gives more honest COLOR, and works softer with volumes. I like this better. And, in general, in general, both lenses are very good, very desirable! Good luck to all! Good pictures and enjoy shooting!
I love both 🙂However I woudn't use them to shoot every sublect, to me it would be Helios for portraits and Oreston for versatile photo ( street, nature and so on)
Hi Ohjajohh, nice lens comparison video - I have both of those lenses - for still photography I think I prefer the Oreston - I've got some cracking shots out of mine. I think the Helios looks a little more cinematic for video use but that's just my personal opinion. Like you, if I only had to keep one it would be the Oreston purely because of that great close focus ability. In fairness to the Helios, I haven't really used it that much - I have a half shot video using it that I really need to finish one of these days!! I've got a Helios 44-2 on order (found it cheap, attached to an unpopular camera on EBAY) so it'll be interesting to see how that compares to the technically superior 44M-4.
Hi Tim, thnx for your comment. I agree that the Oreston is better for photography, it also tends to have warmer colours which is something I like in pictures. I would probably like my Helios more if the focus ring wasn't so stiff. I've checked some videos on how to lube it myself, but as I got two left hands I don't want to take the risk...
@@ohjajohh Sometimes it's really easy to free up a tight focusing ring without dismantling the lens but it does vary and it depends on which part of the helicoid is running tight. If I ever need to strip down a 44M-4 I'll see how easy it is and let you know.
I liked your video.To be fair, I don't own a Helios but I think most Helios' are currently over priced for what you get. I have a 55mm f1.8 Super-Takumar that can produce swirl like the Helios, based on pictures I have seen. It cost me $20, and a little effort to clean it and tighten some loose screws. It also produces wonderful colors. My Meyer-Optik Görlitz Oreston 50mm F1.8 was my first vintage lens purchase. Currently I have 5 great vintage lenses. However, my Meyer-Optik Görlitz Oreston is still my favorite. When paired with a focusing helicoid adapter, the close focus distance makes it a great macro lens as well.
I agree with everything you said. The Orestion is a great and underrated lens. Especially the short focussing distance, that's really rare for a 50mm that old.
The focus ring of the Oreston in this video is quite smooth. But in the last year I picked up some more Oreston lenses, and those are a bit stiff. So you need to be a bit lucky when you buy one I guess
Всем привет! У меня есть оба эти объектива, оба SUPEER! Мой HELIOS чуть чуть чуть резче на открытой диафрагме, но Meyer-Optik Görlitz Oreston мой выбор! Оба объектива очень атмосферные на открытой диафрагме, но Meyer-Optik Görlitz Oreston даёт более честный COLOR, и мягче работает с объёмами. Это мне больше нравится. А, в целом, в общем оба объектива очень хороши, очень желанны! Всем удачи! Хороших снимков и удовольствия от съёмки!
You need to differentiate between mfg. locations of the same model lens, since it was shown that quality variations in 44M-4 are significant. Valdaj factory being quite bad.
I was disappointed that you did not compare them both wide open. I was curious to compare their swirly bokeh potential. I already know the Helios but the Meyer optik is new to me..
Really useful comparison thank you. I am blown away by the Oreston, to my eye it appears sharper than the Helios, has more contrast and has the bokeh I am comfortable with. The bonus is the close focusing distance 😊 Thanks again👍
Thanks for watching. The Oreston is really a bit of an underrated vintage lens I think. You can also find it as a m42 "Pentacon 50mm" Those are later versions, but perform the same.
Good comparison mate! Very effective at showcasing the differences!!!
Thanks, maybe one day I'll try to mod my Helios into that 'Anamorfake' :)
i got the later version of the oreston, rebranded pentacon prakticar, and several versions of helios,,, i reconize your results and thanks you a million times for this wonderful way of comparing, brilliant, and i too love both brand / lenses
Thank for watching, I also have that Pentacon version of this lens, and it performs quite similar indeed.
Really like the method and delivery of comparison, have a couple of Helios that I am happy with seriously considering a Meyer Optik Gorlitz. Thank You for review.
Thanks for your comment. Yes the Oreston by Meyer Optik Gorlitz is definitely worth it.
Thank You for sharing. I'm in vintage lenses, and this test is awesome. I have both, my favorite is the Preston ;) (night pics in your vid are amazing, stars on the bulbs are so sharp on the Preston. I like also the "hexagonal" bokeh on the flowers... :) Greetings from Belgium.
Hello!
I have both of these lenses, both SUPEER! My HELIOS is a little bit sharper wide open, but the Meyer-Optik Görlitz Oreston is my choice!
Both lenses are very atmospheric wide open, but the Meyer-Optik Görlitz Oreston gives more honest COLOR, and works softer with volumes. I like this better. And, in general, in general, both lenses are very good, very desirable!
Good luck to all!
Good pictures and enjoy shooting!
They both have such nice characteristics... very well done! Excellent footage.
I'm going with the Oreston. I just find the bokeh more pleasing, though it seems to have worse flare resistance at night. Both are very nice.
I have both of these lenses and looking at your photos I think I prefer the Helios.
Nice comparison- I find the bokeh from the Helios sometimes distracting . Both outstanding lens . Great shots .🦾🦾
I love both 🙂However I woudn't use them to shoot every sublect, to me it would be Helios for portraits and Oreston for versatile photo ( street, nature and so on)
Hi there. Thanks for a useful video. I found it quite interesting that the Oreston had hexagonal bokeh at f2.8 but the Helios was still roundish.
Thanks for your comment. Unless it's wide open, the Oreston will always show hexagonal bokeh because of the way the 6 aperture blades are designed :)
Chills! This enjoyable scenes! Great effort!! I like! Great video! Smooth timing! Watched till the end i did.
Hi Ohjajohh, nice lens comparison video - I have both of those lenses - for still photography I think I prefer the Oreston - I've got some cracking shots out of mine. I think the Helios looks a little more cinematic for video use but that's just my personal opinion. Like you, if I only had to keep one it would be the Oreston purely because of that great close focus ability. In fairness to the Helios, I haven't really used it that much - I have a half shot video using it that I really need to finish one of these days!!
I've got a Helios 44-2 on order (found it cheap, attached to an unpopular camera on EBAY) so it'll be interesting to see how that compares to the technically superior 44M-4.
Hi Tim, thnx for your comment. I agree that the Oreston is better for photography, it also tends to have warmer colours which is something I like in pictures.
I would probably like my Helios more if the focus ring wasn't so stiff. I've checked some videos on how to lube it myself, but as I got two left hands I don't want to take the risk...
@@ohjajohh Sometimes it's really easy to free up a tight focusing ring without dismantling the lens but it does vary and it depends on which part of the helicoid is running tight. If I ever need to strip down a 44M-4 I'll see how easy it is and let you know.
"nice vid, its the Meyer for me because of the closer focusing!" cheers
Thanks, yes the short focusing distance of the Meyer is really great!
I liked your video.To be fair, I don't own a Helios but I think most Helios' are currently over priced for what you get. I have a 55mm f1.8 Super-Takumar that can produce swirl like the Helios, based on pictures I have seen. It cost me $20, and a little effort to clean it and tighten some loose screws. It also produces wonderful colors. My Meyer-Optik Görlitz Oreston 50mm F1.8 was my first vintage lens purchase. Currently I have 5 great vintage lenses. However, my Meyer-Optik Görlitz Oreston is still my favorite. When paired with a focusing helicoid adapter, the close focus distance makes it a great macro lens as well.
I agree with everything you said. The Orestion is a great and underrated lens. Especially the short focussing distance, that's really rare for a 50mm that old.
In the first shot, the Oreston appears to be much, much darker. Is that because of cloud in the background?
Such nice video!! Thx a lot. What about the Oreston Focus ring?
The focus ring of the Oreston in this video is quite smooth. But in the last year I picked up some more Oreston lenses, and those are a bit stiff. So you need to be a bit lucky when you buy one I guess
Всем привет!
У меня есть оба эти объектива, оба SUPEER! Мой HELIOS чуть чуть чуть резче на открытой диафрагме, но Meyer-Optik Görlitz Oreston мой выбор!
Оба объектива очень атмосферные на открытой диафрагме, но Meyer-Optik Görlitz Oreston даёт более честный COLOR, и мягче работает с объёмами. Это мне больше нравится. А, в целом, в общем оба объектива очень хороши, очень желанны!
Всем удачи!
Хороших снимков и удовольствия от съёмки!
Спасибо
You need to differentiate between mfg. locations of the same model lens, since it was shown that quality variations in 44M-4 are significant. Valdaj factory being quite bad.
Thanks for sharing. Very good video. Keep it up. See you for the next video my friend
I feel that the Oreston is superior, it has far better contrast, and the star bursts on the rigging of the yacht, taken at night are better defined.
I was disappointed that you did not compare them both wide open. I was curious to compare their swirly bokeh potential. I already know the Helios but the Meyer optik is new to me..
Good job. :)
Your dates are not quite correct for the Oreston.
Meyer made/sold the Oreston up until 1971, Pentacon took over in 1972 and dropped the Oreston name.
Oreston
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