Does Being Fat Make You Better At Baseball?
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I'm assuming having enough lipids allows elasticity to apply while maintaining the mass on your body/arms as your body swings to hit the object or throw. There is a way to maintain both weight, elasticity, and uh balance/ clumsyness. Hard to balance, even with expects.
Being fat doesn't make anyone better at anything! And these stories aren't proven just hear say...
@@MrHeroicDemonbruh get a life lmao
$11 a meal is way more expensive than going to the grocery store
It still cracks me up that CC got skinny AFTER he retired. I love that freaking dude, he's a national treasure.
I'm happy for CC's health post baseball. But man, beer gut CC was a PROBLEM! 😂
Its a thing with some nfl linemen to lose the weight after playing days. I heard a former panthers linemen lost all the weight and ran a marathon
he was skinny for a short time late in his career, and it was probably his worst season, I knew that weight distribution thing was real because of it. glad he's healthier in retirement, though.
Mass=Gas in the words of CC. He said he wasn’t getting the velo when he was in his best shape.
Roids
In short:
If you're heavy, you hit the ball harder, which is kinda the most important thing with baseball these days.
If you're heavy, you suffer fewer arm injuries because you pitch with your mass, not your arm.
As pointed out in some other comments, some of these numbers are misleading because they look at weight rather than the way the weight is carried. Jumbo Diaz and Aaron Judge should not fall into the same category.
However, a decent amount of the stars listed aren't particularly fat.
He ignores fat vs muscle, doesn't factor for height at all, and even misrepresented weights on his hitter lists. For example he has Miggy at 267 which was his 2023 weight when his 2013 Topps Card lists him at 240. He also had trout listed at the same weight for every season on there. And counted Ohtani as overweight
@@thomascevallos5042he literally said Miggy weighed 240 in 2013 11:15
@@ayarzeev8237 in the top OPS+ seasons earlier in the video, he lists 267 next to his 2013 OPS falsely increasing the correlation between weight and performance
@@thomascevallos5042 I see the point you are referencing now. That may have been a typo on the slide given what he said later in the video.
Every like this comment gets ill drink a beer
Another one
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Your 77th beer on my behalf , don't chug , sip it slow
Drink up
Good luck lil bro
Bartolo truly lives the American dream. Immigrated here like our forefathers, loves Mcdonald’s and Taco Bell, and made a living off of America’s past time😂😂😂 True American hero at work
I remember him from the minors. We saw him twice. That dude WAS charisma. Dunno how else to explain it.
Our forefathers didn't immigrate here, they settled it and created the Nation to begin with.
@MeanBeanComedy Imigrate: come to live permanently in a foreign country. Hope this helps ❤
@@ChangeDaWorld-c9b Spell immigrate properly. Also, you don't immigrate to a country that doesn't exist before you get there. The (original) legacy of the US is not immigration, that came later.
"Hope this helps
@@MeanBeanComedy To be fair some of them were born elsewhere and did, in fact, immigrate here such as Alexander Hamilton, James Wilson, & Francis Lewis just to name a few.
You are onto something. Pablo Sanchez was always the best Backyard Sports athlete.
kiesha dmitri and mikey are also good at baseball and they're big to
Goat
On the old slow ass PC . Great childhood memories , that little midget could ball
Oh my gosh if i could play that game rn
"I learned Spanish in school" IYKYK
To be fair, most of the “overweight” players are not actually overweight, they just are big guys with lots of muscle mass, look at Kris Bryant or Bryce Harper who were listed as “overweight” its pretty clear theyre not actually overweight, just shredded and 6’3-6’5
Exactly, if these guys were 5-9 or 5-8 they would be way overweight but these guys are very tall
Yeah, I saw Aaron Judge on that list and was like???
The thing is the standard that determines overweight are outdated to be fair, and don’t take into account muscle.
Basically weight is weight. Your body is not designed to deal with it whether its all muscle or all fat. Muscle being denser and the actions you take to gain it tend to be healthier then just being a blob but your still going to run into problems from the added wear and tear.
This was David Ortiz. On TV he looked fat, but to see him in person, he was just a massive human being altogether.
there’s zero way mike trout and kris bryant were overweight in the 2014-2016 season
Tall and muscular counts as overweight I guess 😭😭😭
Yeah, the biggest reason baseball players are heavier than ever is because they are more muscular than ever.
People don’t realize that weight training was not a widespread practice in MLB circles until the 1990s, and that practice is not going away any time soon.
@@MisterVicky9 They're using BMI so anyone who's built is gonna count as overweight...I hope to god that paper he's mentioning doesnt also use BMI as its criteria for overweight
im 6'4 / 215 and I'm technically overweight
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I've never thought about the existence of an underground cheesesteak eating contest, but now that I know it is out there, there's nothing I want to be a part of more.
Pablo avoiding that tag while doing the splits is a thing of beauty. That statue belongs in the Big man Hof.
Kung Fu Panda dodge
"even his voice sounds fat" got damn 😂😂😂
that whole paragraph is soooo funny 😂😂😂😂😂
I want whatever he ate now. You know he eat good.
That publisher literally had something against fat people 😂😂
Best quote ever
@@willnyc377they probably did, but honestly that exact statement could be made in an admirable, positive way depending on intention, tone and context. It’s not inherently insulting and could believably be affectionate…but considering it was 2000 I’m gonna assume it wasn’t. Fuckin brutal though.
107 beers is LITE
Nice lil warm up
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Easy pregame
This is just evidence of how bad BMI is as a metric. Because while there are exceptions of "overweight" players that play well despite not having an athletic body type, a big reason for why so many of the best players are getting heavier is because it is more common for them to build much more muscle. And guys like Mookie Betts and Jose Altuve aren't lighter because they're more fit, they're just limited by height.
Realisticly if the average height of Americans was 6-3 none of these guys would be overweight
My BMI is perfect but I'm skinny fat 🤷
It’s only for normal people
@@kingyellowman5762skinny fat? Gtfo here
The big problem with BMI is that the number itself is meaningless without context, and because of its nature, the context that's provided is super generalized. The "healthy" BMI range is based upon the "average" person, but the nature of humans is that we aren't average, we all have unique quirks that require much more relative metrics. Someone that has a larger overall build might not actually be healthy by getting their weight into the healthy range. On the flip side someone that has a low percentage fat composition can be considered obese if they build enough bulk, but the nature of getting to that level of fitness means having to be the most healthy you can be. So at the end of the day the only thing that BMI alone is good for is comparing your weight to people of a similar height. It takes other metrics to understand whether a person's weight is a problem or not (or in this case to compare whether baseball players are better because they're fatter or have just bulked up more)
Best baseball content on TH-cam. This and Jomboy got me into baseball
I loved jomboy so much and still do that I couldn't imagine someone coming along and doing baseball content even better. But this guy is it.
@@corywilson2007 jomboy has fallen off and just shills out content now.
@@z.r.r4593 I feel that too. Seemed like he barely did any baseball videos last year compared to the previous years.
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He never does the lipsync stuff, which is what made him blow up. 😮💨 😢
@@z.r.r4593my guy, what are you talking about… just because not every video is baseball doesn’t mean the content is any worse. The whole company is having as much fun as ever on TH-cam
BMI is a terrible measurement for tall, muscular athletes. By those standards, Arnold Schwarzenegger classified as obese when he was literally Mr. Universe.
I have incredibly broad shoulders, and whenever I’ve weighed a “normal” I’ve looked skeletal
BMI can be really hit or miss
I mean, Babe Ruth is a downright mythical and he had a beer belly. This seems like something that’d be just common sense
What does this say about baseball
@@kevinbeazy
What does it say about power lifting? Who cares. Big dudes bring power.
@@kevinbeazy Look at strongman physiques, strength is directly correlated with weight, putting up 100 pounds of muscle is just not sustainable so getting "out of shape" while keeping your strength training and conditioning will probably catapult your strength.
Body weight and %body fat are two very different things. Nor does it take height into consideration
Dude legit called Mike Trout overweight. Wtf
BMI only takes height and weight into consideration. Height is definitely considered. Body fat is what's missing.
@@holstorrsceadus1990 BMI is body mass not body fat. in general if it fat or muscle you can still be over weight , look at body builders who are like 5 ft 9 and 250 lbs who are 5% body fat ... they still are considered over weight.
muscle is whats missing. most strong men are fat simply because restricintg your calories is stressful@@holstorrsceadus1990
He should look at BMI. But still, the physics make sense. In positions of leverage (ie hitting and pitching) extra weight / more mass helps generate power. In positions of running/speed/agility (eg fielding, running bases) it will work against you, slow you down.
This always made sense to me. Every time in Little League with a fat kid stepped up to the plate we always took five steps back
Also something to consider, a guy who is 6 foot 2, 210 pounds of pure muscle, chiseled like a sculpture, is considered overweight by bmi.
And at 6 foot 1, 220 pounds, considered obese.
While it doesn't account for the players who lost weight and then sucked, it should be noted that the disproportionately good stats from heavy players could be affected by the fact that fat players clearly had a shorter leash than thin players. Only the best got to the show and those that did had significantly more pressure to perform than the average player. There still may be a correlation but not as direct as it may seem.
Exactly. Survivor bias. People look at antique furniture or houses and they say “things were better made back then.” Wrong. They made plenty of things poorly or cheaply 100 years ago. And that stuff didn’t exist anymore. We see only the 100-year old products that happened to have been well made. People also take better care of the best made products.
The players that lost weight on team orders and started sucking probably lost muscle weight because losing the fat was too hard in such a short time. Everyone knows muscle is easier to lose than fat. That would easily explain their regressions.
@@jamesdrake142Same is true for music.
@@mat5473 Even if they didn't lose muscle, losing a lot of weight quickly is not healthy. Baseball's off-season is not very long. If I had a guy come in to spring training 30 pounds lighter than he was at the end of the year, I'd be worried. 10 pounds? Great but 30, that's asking for trouble. And of course as you said, there is likely to be muscle mass loss involved in that kind of weight loss too.
Stopped watching baseball for years - but I gotta say that this channel has gotten me back to watching & keeping up with the games! Thank you for this dope content
I click and I watch to the end everytime.
I'm from England and have never watched a baseball game in my 29years , but I like the vids/storys
I also watch jomboys cricket videos, even though ive never watched a match haha. @dtha_truth6079
Same
Same here I stopped watching after Strasburg got Tommy John's (and I personally didn't liked how they were babying him and still ended up having to do the surgery) found this channel during the off-season last year and he rekindled my passion for baseball so much I went to the cages swinging as if I was about to sign a contract but i still forgot to tune in to this season 😂😂😂😂😂😂
For the record, Ichiro would deliberately start the season about 20 lbs over his ideal weight because he'd lose it all, and then some, over the course of the season. He explained that it's the exact reason why his April and May numbers were the worst throughout the season.
My point is whether you're big or small, I believe productivity has more to do with a balance between consistency and adaptation. Bartolo remained consistent with his diet and was able to successfully adapt to the changes in his body while Pablo couldn't. It also takes a toll psychologically when you have to start being cautious of something you never had to think twice about before.
I one time was in alcohol rehab with a pro ball player and as a big baseball fan I would chat with him and he told that the Seattle mariners set his ass there because his bottle of liquor per day habit was keeping him fat, and that was the primary reason they wanted him to give it up
I watch a video based on Wade Boogs 73 beer flight. They did the math, and he have been super dead if it happened. But I admit it's a great baseball storytale. His BAC would be over 1%, which is more than double the lethal limit of 0.40%.
Andre the Giant put away 100 beers in a sitting. Wade Boggs did not.
Aaron judge being 282 pounds shouldnt be overweight because hes 6"8
It’s more about him being that heavy
finally, some sports content i can relate to
Being fat sux unless you're rich
@@kingyellowman5762 not for Chris Farley
@@stewpitteejit I assure you he lived a better life than a skinny broke mf
Big Sexy getting offered 50 grand to cut weight, getting FATTER instead, and then winning a Cy Young, is one of the most hilarious developments in baseball. Going on to become EVEN FATTER and be the MLBs oldest to hit their first HR is the cherry on top.
IT worked for John Kruk. He was a lifetime .300 hitter that, according to reports, would go inbetween innings and microwave hotdogs in the team microwave. He'd also order pizza and cheesesteaks and be surrounded with the wrappers.
John Kruk is not a good siiingerr
We mask his hideous voiiice with more voluumeee
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In the words of John Daly: "You can't pull fat"
🎶 sixty niiiiiine when you eat a junk lunch
Lots of cocaine too
I have never played baseball, but I was a fat kid and played cricket growing up. I was one of the fastest bowlers (cricket pitchers) in the school and was able to throw fast balls with a fraction the run up of my teammates.
My son is the chubbiest ( I wouldn't say hes "fat" but hes hefty) kid on his team but he's also the best pitcher and the best hitter. Funny enough he also plays ss if he's not pitching or playing 1st.
Hello heart disease
Says the guy laying around playing video games, foh.
Huge respect for you, keep doing what you do and help your child, don't let others opinions affect you nor your son.@@Bobby-Dingers
He would still be the best pitcher if he carried less mass. Correlation isn't causation.
Congratulations, your kid is fat. What a great parent you are.
I LOVE baseball because the health grind obsession and body shaming doesn't apply. As John Kruk said in Sports Illustrated like 30yrs ago when interviewer tried to shame him for his unhealthy habits as an athlete, and he repsonded "i ain't no athlete, I'm a baseball player." He had a monster season.
I’ve long wondered if slimming down was the worst thing that happened to Felix Hernandez in his career.
When King Felix arrived in the majors as a teen prodigy, he was noticeably thicker than pretty much every pitcher in his age bracket.
After fulfilling his potential and becoming one of the most dominant pitchers in the game, Felix started to slim down noticeably and almost immediately started losing velocity on his fastball. This also had the effect of turning the best changeup in the game into just another pitch. Felix also seemed to lose durability and endurance, rarely pitching more than 5 innings in a start after turning 30.
It's possible but it could easily be a chicken or the egg sort of situation did the weight loss cause his struggles or did his struggles cause his weight loss.
Then again, you could just be one of those situations You can find and basically every sport where a really great player has a really short prime
@karlwithak. you do realize that King Felix was 33 when he threw his last pitch, right? Also, players tend to put on weight as they age, not the other way around.
Alot of those ovrerwieght listed players are just tall. Aaron Judge is 282 lbs. but hes 6'7
Exactly. For Example, Yordan Alvarez weighs 225, and is included in the "overweight" category in the video, even though his BMI (26.5) is lower than his teammate Jose Altuve's (26.7). Freddie Freeman is also "Over 210 lbs" but he's nearly a foot taller than Altuve, so his BMI is lower. It's not just about being "fat" it's about being big.
THAT UMP ACTUALLY TAKING A BITE OF THE BURGER THAT WAS ON THE BASE 😮 😂
Like you wouldn't. We all would.
I love how people in this day and age still think the most bogus unscientific statistic, BMI, means anything in regards to your health or fitness. Would love to see a video on how 99% of all NFL players not named Devonta Smith are "overweight" when he's less than 2 BMI points away from being "overweight" lol
THIS comment. The BMI wasn't even invented for what it's used for now. The guy who came up with it was only trying to see what averages were for men, and he only studied white European men. He specifically said it shouldn't be used for any individual recommendations. It wasn't meant as a measure of who should lose weight or not, it was just a measure of what average was. If they had all been fatter, the average would have been fatter, too. But now we're all reduced to a number and most people aren't going to get down to the "right" BMI and stay that way.
The fear of running makes them hit harder
No joke, the longest homerun I ever hit in my modest playing career was a game where I was sick as hell, I had been throwing up all night and barely could walk. I was hitting leadoff so I just took a big vicious hack at the first pitch, because I was hoping to hit it a mile and not have to run the bases, fastball right down the middle, I cracked that sucker over the scoreboard in left center, probably about 380 maybe 400 ft.
Imagine getting $95,000,000 to be fat for a few years.
This is the funniest baseball video I've ever seen
I’ve seen photos of Miggy recently and he’s a lot slimmer now. Pretty crazy stuff since a lot of his physical ailments were affecting his mobility
I used to get annoyed as hell when watching Miggy jog to first base when he hit a grounder.
Aaron Judge is 6'7" 280 isn't THAT heavy for that height
Height doesn’t matter
Yeah it does
And he's muscular, not fat. Statistics would suggest he'll probably be a giant whale after he's been retired for a few years 🤣🤣, but as of now, he's not fat at all.
He’s also built like a titan so he doesn’t count in this regard
@@sloshtugz4087are you slow
So what's Eric Sims excuse??
As a bigger guy playing baseball, I see this as a win. My nickname in the dugout is Thicc Nick btw.
Fuck yeah
BRB, gonna go drink a bunch of beer and pizza and go sneak into spring training for the Rockies
107 beers is pretty much 107 shots, you’re dying at least 5 times over doesn’t matter who you are. Never heard more cap in my life
Tall and muscular is not the same as being fat. There's no universe in which Bryce Harper and Aaron Judge are overweight.
Pablo Sandoval is a legend here in SF. Always brought the house down.
Tony Gwynn. He was a chunker. One of the greatest hitters of all time
Yeah I can't believe he wasn't mentioned in this video.
Eating lunch during this video is an experience. 10 cheesesteaks in a day???
I don’t watch baseball but I’ve always wondered how you can be a pro athlete and play games while chewing tobacco, drunk, smoking cigs, being fat as fuck, etc lmao
as a brit your vids are great . love the game
a lot of baseball players are naturally more bottom heavy than the average man -- more of their weight is distributed more evenly throughout their whole body (no stick legs in sight)
so even if their body fat % IS also in fact too high, they STILL won't necessarily "look" overweight cuz they're guys with thighs -- baseball booties are the best in sports
@breadandcircuses8127i like big butts, & i cannot lie
Bartolo is every casual rec players hero. That man is a national treasure LUL
As a fat guy, who was a fat kid, i can confirm that just by the eye test youre always going to get picked first to play baseball and football. Youre either getting picked to be an offensive lineman or tap into home run potential and get thrown out in right field or 1st base. I drove football coaches nuts because i didn't love or enjoy it like i did baseball. Imagine Pablo Sandoval as a 2nd basemen. That was me lol. Theres obviously a breaking point to where it'll effect you. But if youre s natural athlete, a realistic chubby body really is the peak for baseball. I'd argue baseball is the most body image friendly, realistic body image sport out there
I was the fat kid but was able to get pretty fit in high school to play baseball 1B because I loved it so much and used Kobe mentality as a model to approach the game. Although I lost weight I still had a big body mass, but because I stayed active I was quick and knowledgeable at base stealing, and slides. My coach used to be impressed because during our sprints he would say "u got a set of wheels, kid".
There were players much bigger than me on the team but they were not as active and it showed because they didn't field or run as good.
I think there can be a method to finding a good balance of being husky but active to improve any baseball player. I think running is essential to a players regimen because of stamina and energy required to make great plays. But that's my 2 cents
Nah, fat is only good for hitting, not for fielding, even pitching can work since they don't have to move.
@@capybaraponque611 or base running, production wins gamss
@@capybaraponque611There’s probably a middle ground like most things. Sprinting around the bases is not the same as cross country. I was chubby and one of the hardest hitters on my team, also one of the fastest runners and was catcher, doing squats all day. Maybe the consequential legs of steel from squatting with the extra weight made me run faster…
@@202cardline lemme see those buns
The Kenny Powers archetype
9:04 you’re inadvertently misrepresenting this research. The Harvard study uses the word “fat” as a form of intellectual clickbait. As someone with a graduate degree in psychology which is literally just to train you how to write studies and research that’s all, the entire premise is attacking the mass end of the BMI calculation. Players that weigh more are statistically significantly more likely to be taller players hence more frame to add more muscle along with more fat. Those two do not weight remotely the same. “Fatter” players at the top of the sport offensively who gained weight aren’t gaining fat - they are converting excess fat to muscle. That’s why it didn’t work for young. He was just getting fatter and he was diagnosed accordingly. Notice also how this only about offense. Your whole video started with all players but conveniently morphed into hitting. Those bigger players universally regressed in the field in cases where they were adding fat over muscle.
So absolutely not it doesn’t help to be fatter. It helps to be stronger and taller players are higher ceilings to achieve this. Bc they are process is bal athletes, they still list weights so as players who are even lazy add weight, they can convert some of this after they add fat. The kids call this bulking. Smaller players can’t do this bc they have much less of a frame to play with this ratio. This is why Altuve has to remain as bulky as he can while being agile given that’s his strength. It’s also why you’ll see division 1 champion sprinters who could easily all set combine records in track shape but when drafted run much slower. Yah no shit they gained 30 pounds to be able to hit their bench targets. Trindon Holliday is the best example of this. In track shape he’d have zero problem going low 4s in a 40. We know this bc in literally electronic timing track races with blind starting guns unlike the goofy way nfl does it, we can clock his 40 meter pace. Same goes for Walter Dix who did go in the 3’s for his official 40 but that was in track shape. He’d likely not get drafted weighing 170 pounds soaking wet even as just a return man.
love your content. some guys are just huge and heavy but by no means over weight - like judge and stanton, they are just monsters among men. but i always thought the big guys had a distinct power advantage as well
This video just proves Babe Ruth would succeed in todays MLB, he wasn’t super overweight but had fair amount of weight that seemed him look like fat
Ive always loved the concept of fat players in baseball. What other major league sport has that. You can be fat, wear jewlery, chew on tobacco, while playing in a professional sporting event. Thats badass to me
Apparently you have never watched darts. Those dudes used to smoke during live television broadcasts. 🤣🤣
So every football player that isn’t a WR or DB is overweight/obese too?
I get that you have a premise, but it’s misleading info when you put someone like Trout up there as an example of “more weight=good”. SO MANY PEOPLE don’t understand that height, body fat %, and muscle/bone mass are far more indicitive of health. Yes there’s very few, if any, I would consider healthy above 300lbs. But it ain’t black and white when you talk weights of pro athletes in the 150-250 range
I think Boggs had 107 ROOT BEERS!
I haven't watched a single baseball game in 20 years, and this is insane. A bit like waking up from a coma and wondering, "what's going on in baseball?" Oh, there are loads of fat guys now.
I can't believe how often you're able to release videos with this kind of depth.
I feel like your masterpiece on Japanese baseball just came out!
This channel is a wonder.
Using BMI to show that baseball players are overweight is downright regarded
In the list of the best players of 2016, most of them were more muscle than fat I will give you Ortiz Cruz and Cabrera but the rest of those guys were mainly muscle or were simply taller guys
Weighing more probably makes you better at baseball, though being fat doesn't (though being fat probably doesn't hurt you as much in baseball as it does with other sports).
Ozzie Guillen calling Jenks out of the pen is the funniest thing I’ve ever seen
Sadly, this was the crappiest video from you guys so far. There is a MONSTEROUS DIFFERENCE between morbid obesity and being muscular. Please note the nuance regarding weight and BMI. Noting morbidly obese position players' career length would have been prudent. It seems irresponsible of you otherwise.
Very funny as a Mets fan that a Vogelbach clip was used for “hit balls farther than ever.”
I am a mets fan, and vogelbach was really good besides the 2 months slump in the beginning of 2023 season
@@mikerogers5086 never said he was bad, but the man sure isn’t a power hitter. His strength is his discipline.
@emilyg3758 his strength wasn't home runs, but his exit velocity was in the top category in the league. His hitting came from his power.
@@mikerogers5086 Well yeah, but the comment was about driving the ball far, not hitting line drives into gaps. One doesn't typically refer to a gap hitting leadoff center fielder as a "power hitter" even if he can hit the ball hard, so why should we apply a different principle to Vogey? There's more than EV that goes into power hitting.
Side note, if you looked further into the stats you're referencing for 2023, you'd see that his 17.6% bump in hard hit% and 4.1mph increase in average exit velo was accompanied by a nearly 10% bump in ground ball percentage. His ground ball/fly ball ratio increased by .24 points! All of this resulted in a whopping... .032 point decrease in slugging and a 0.8 point reduction in hr%. Oh and to do all this he took a nearly 5% point hit in his walk rate. So he isn't hitting the ball any farther than he has in the past. And that's okay! HRs aren't his strength.
Historically, his value has come from his on base skills, not his average or slugging. A good example is to look at years where his EV and hard hit% have been down, like 2022 or even 2020. His effectiveness really doesn't reduce that much. He's still walking, he's still hitting line drives, and he's still effective. That's discipline, not power.
It’s funny because whenever my partner occasionally glances at the screen when I’m watching a game, she’s like -why is that guy (pitcher or batter) fat and/or sweating? Cracks me up when she’s like -is he sweating from stress?
LOL "This video is brought to you by cook unity" That made me lol in the context lol
Couple issues with this.
Mainly that Weight =/= fat.
At 4:57, the list of top OPS seasons, you point out that only 2 are under 210 lbs. But not only are you ignoring players that are decidedly not fat (Judge, Harper, Ohtani, etc) but also you use recent weigh numbers instead of their weights at the time. For example you have Miguel Cabrera's 2023 weight next to his 2013 OPS (27 pounds lighter according to 2013 Topps).
You ignore any talk of players bulking. Would you say that a heavier steroid era Bonds was better because he was fatter than his younger leaner self? No you'd say it's because of the steroid muscles.
You also are equating too much to fat alone. I have no doubt that a pitcher who has a fine tuned finesse to their pitching will have issues after losing or gaining weight. Yes you can't say it's not because of the weight, but it's not fair to say the weight was the main factor. Much like seemingly suggesting that Lincecum's decline was due to losing 20 pounds.
Also on pitchers, you primarily use on of the least representative stats in Wins. Why not use ERA+? Or any other stat that shows actual pitcher value.
Yes, there may be some merit in being fat in baseball. But there's also a lot of merit in building muscle over fat. There's also merit in maintaining health for injury prevention.
This is an extremely surface level analysis that attempts to draw conclusions by reducing statistics to a couple over simplified data points and doesn't stick to a consistent definition of "fat".
Rest in Peace, Wade Boggs
Wade Boggs is very much alive
@@trublaze This meme never gets old.
@@BrassPlayr I must be new because I was very confused by the comment
I don't think it is possible to drink 107 beers in a few hours or whatever Boggs reportedly did. You would pass out after 30-40 or get alcohol poisoning, liver failure, or just not enough room in your system for that much liquid. I call BS.
FYI, the unofficial world record is 156 beers but that was by the professional drunk Andre the Giant. He also died young.
Bro called Mike Trout "techically overweight" 😂
And judge, ohtani, freeman and more... really makes you think the whole thesis of the video is wrong...
They are technically overweight by bmi. BMI doesn’t account for muscle or where your weight comes from
@@fio6620 thats why scaled bmi's are dumb
@@Bigfluffinfluff I mean I agree, but my point still stands, and it’s 100% where some of these figures in the video are coming from
@@Bigfluffinfluffthey are one indication of problems with weight, however bmi alone is pointless, especially in athletes. In non athletes it can be one factor to pay attention.
There's a difference between over wight and being fat.
both are bad
@jonathansykes4986 not really I'm overweight with single digit body fat
Lol at mike trout being "overweight". BMI is BS and doesn't factor in muscle density. LeBron is easily 260+ lbs... is he overweight too?
BDE is asking the real questions here
Nah, the real question is is: how fat would Ohtani have to get to win cy young and the triple crown in the same season?
This whole video is based off false assumptions and incorrect usage of bmi. Using bmi to judge obesity for professional sports players is pretty silly. And so is just looking at their weight. Mike trout is not overweight just because he weighs 235. Aaron judge is not overweight just because he weighs 280.Im clicking thumbs down on this vid, its clickbait garbage.
Well baseball being America game makes sense now. Babe Ruth would be proud
couldn’t you argue that in order to be a fat pitcher you would have to be performing extra well or you’d be cut? After all, most of the video is spent discussing how skeptical MLB teams are of fat pitchers.
So it’ could be a case of correlation, but not causation; a fat pitcher will be cut for poor performance at a lower bar than a fit pictcher, so their averages will necessarily be higher.
Hi.... Nobody can drink 73 beers on a flight. Assuming he drank cans that's 6 gallons of liquid. That amount of liquid consumed in a short time can kill you, even if it's water.
Very very good video. But! I just wanna put it out there that just because they’re good at baseball doesn’t mean they’re gonna live longer than you and me. This is still a terrible way to treat your body in everyday life. Great job making money, but you won’t live to spend too much of it.
In summary: extra weight helps in positions where leverage is important - hitting and pitching. Makes sense.
Extra weight will reduce performance where speed/cardio/nimbleness are needed - fielding and base running.
Mike trout does not weigh more than David Ortiz I’m sorry it’s just not true. There’s no way Ortiz is 230, dude is easily up there at 260, if not more
This is why baseball isn't a sport, it's a pastime. It's all about skill and very little to do with athleticism, like golf, another pastime.
Ah yes, known fatsos Mike Trout, Freddie Freeman, Josh Donaldson and Kris Bryant
Starting your video out with a blatant lie, wouldn’t expect anything else from this channel
Force = Mass x Acceleration. If you can accelerate more mass as fast or faster, one can increase their force in hitting and pitching.
I'm a little confused. Miguel Montero never played for the Mariners. Did you mean Jesus Montero?
107 beers in one sitting? You either are an alcoholic or you are going to die of alcohol poisoning in any other country with actual beer
Bro I am say one news in espn official site about mlb expansion and adding new teams please talk this bro
0:20 100 pieces of gum?
That’s Pete Carroll’s thing
BDE face reveal?! 🥵 bro looks like he’s got BDE😮💨🤤🥵🥵
dude uploaded this video without knowing a single thing about bf%. unwatchable
Background music too loud in this one. Adjust your mixers please.
You know… maybe that Babe Ruth fella was really onto something back in the day.
Never thought I’d see another parallel between sumo and baseball.
I love this 😆😆 Bartolo Colon will always be my favorite fat player
How can getting fat help you in a sport that doesn’t exist?😮
Damn I could be in the mlb just by being in “semi-athletic” shape