Ravenhuh Zers Oh my god, Illidan just pulled the planet. Stick to the plan. Stick to the plan. Am I lagging guys? I can't move. More demons respawning. More respawning. Cast divine intervention. I'm trying! Illidan you are just stupid as hell. "Least I have chicken." -Illidan
Sargeras: " WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOUR THE SON OF ARTHAS, BUT ALSO ILLIDAN BUT ALSO ME!? AND WHAT IS WITH ALL THESE 20 FOOT HORSE COCKS! O GOD I THINK IM GOING TO JUST STAB MYSELF!"
um, actually if ou knew the lore you would know that Illidan is perfectly capable of seeing through the band, which is dipped in demon blood and allows him to identify hidden demons. Maybe if you didn't waste your time commenting on shit you don't know about and actually picked up a wow lore book or idk PLAYED THE GODDAMN GAME you would know that fucking idiot lol jk that was hilarious and also i have no clue if what i said is true i played wow for like 1 month only xD
@@CJAFTER5 if you played the game you'd know Sargeras burned his eyes out and gifted him new ones that can see anything and all magic. Noob get rekt read the lore
@@CJAFTER5 if you played the game you'd know Sargeras burned his eyes out and gifted him new ones that can see anything and all magic. Noob get rekt read the lore
"After getting all the pillars of creation, that was the LAST thing I expected you to do, Illidan!" "I guess you could say... you were not prepared for that."
Josh Huston demon hunters would love to go to argus. Permadeath to demons now. You see demons regenerate back in the twisting nether but if killed in there they are perms dead. Now we can perms kill the demons
Caio Diogo Feels like after you defeated Kil'jaeden besides having Argus appear in the sky, all Wardens NPCs should be in a permanent state of face palm.
"Ok guys this is the plan, we get the five pillars of creation and then seal the portal in the Tomb to stop the Legion!" Illidan:"Understood, let's open the most gigantic portal connecting Azeroth with a world full of demons." "What? NO!"
TODAY OUR WORLDS DESTRUCTION HAS BEEN ENDED IN THE VERY DEFIANCE OF OUR MAKERS, AGALON THE OBSERVER, HERALD OF THE TITANS, HAS BEEN DEFEATED IN THE DEPTHS OF ULDUAR. I didn't even have to look it up. Sometimes I like to spam this is goldshire Moonguard
What's strange is that Sargeras had access to that device Illidan used since... Forever. Maybe it can't actually bring him to Azeroth for whatever reason?
Upon touching Kil'jaeden's forehead, it almost looked like Velen granted him a sense of Peace before he finally died. Peace within himself, and a satisfying answer for the tyrant he once called his brother. This cinematic is so, so great!
reason being is that Kil´jaeden was once the best friend and one of the main rulers of eredar race whom were corrupted by Sergaras and he believed that Sergaras wanted to purify them with knowledge and sentient actions but instead he intended to corrupt them... talking about the Velen´s vision he meant the one where he saw Sergaras´s truly intentions but they did not hear Velen out nor Archimonde did. As all the creatures controlled and corrupted by their "masters" they eventually freed their mind athe end of their existence and therefore you are absolutely right Kil´jaeden was glad that Velen succeded in defeating the burning legion for good! :)
@@MiggyTheNihilist Well put, Velen was definitely upset when he realized Kil'Jaeden thought it was his only option and he was envious of his best friend. My theory is he used one bit of holy magic when he touched his brow to let him know that Velen may not forget all the destruction, but he definitely forgave his best friend. Kil'Jaeden looked close to tears.
I'm like the rest of you. Always loved this part. See how tense and angry he still is even after being defeated? He was tortured mentally every single day since he chose to make this pact and when velen touches him, his expression completely changes and finally he finds some peace just before dying.
I always was interested by the fact that he started to fall apart more once Velen touched his head. It's as if his bitterness and pride were the only things sustaining him while he was mortally wounded and admitting his fault/reconciling with Velen caused him to let go of those things.
Betrayer... In truth, it was I who was betrayed. Still, I am hunted. Still, I am hated. Now, my blind eyes see what others cannot: that sometimes the hand of fate must be forced! Now go forth... unleash the tides of Doom... Upon all those...who would oppose us.
This almost reminds me a lot of transformers the last knight, which features an alien planet moving towards earth, maybe we will hear sargeras say "for my world to live, yours must die"
i can only imagine the Maiev Shadowsong reaction : Maiev: congratulations ilidan you've won ... Ilidan smiles... ... you've won another 10 000 years in jail.
Legion portals were convenient to the Legion. They allowed their forces to reach us while we have a hard time reaching them. Due to the fact that they cannot die in Azeroth and will just respawn, it provided the Legion endless waves of attack where they lose almost nothing. The forces of Azeroth however don't have the same privilege of respawning like demons or our player character. A defensive war achieves nothing but delaying the Legion. It's impossible to compete with an infinitely respawning army in a defensive war unless you cut off their source. You cannot build up your forces faster than this enemy. The portal Illidan opened is convenient for both sides. It lets the Legion attack us at full power but also lets us attack them in full force. Except this time, the demons we kill in Argus are dead for good since they can actually die permanently in places with high amounts of fel energy. This is why the Illidari has always adopted the strategy of going to their planet, killing their leader there and then blowing up that planet. Also if you think about it, this is the strongest our player characters have been. We have legendary artifact weapons and Legionfall is composed of all class factions unified regardless of race. This is also the weakest the legion has been with both Archi and KJ dead. If Illidan didn't open this portal now, you just know Azeroth is going to go back fighting a defensive war in hopes of "rebuilding" faster against an infinitely respawning opponent as if that's possible. Either that or the Alliance and Horde go back to bickering again. So he forces everyone to fight the war the Illidari way. Go in there and kill them in their home planet OR everyone dies. Is it selfish? Yes but you can't deny it's effective.
Verthras shorter way of saying this illidan forced us to attack argus to destroy them once and forall because the legion is at its weakest point right now and we are at our strongest
Never was a fan of the infinitely respawning, not truly dead, nonsense the introduced to the Legion. They were indeed very killable prior to at least Cata or when they introduced that to the lore. It just seemed like a poor way to reintroduce the Legion.
@@misterbleedinggums Literally any demon who died pre-cata was dead. The spirits of powerful demons would linger and they could be resurrected like anything else but they were quite dead in every other sense of the word. It wasn't until MoP that they introduced the idea that demons exist outside of realities/timelines and could only be killed in specific spots. Numerous times in the books and in WoW is it hinted that the body should be destroyed so that they can never return to a physical form or that if you slay a legion solider they are in fact dead. Multiple times in the War of the Ancients series they talk about how killing demons only puts a tiny dent in the Legions numbers. Many of the demons killed in WC3 and WoW were considered permadead by Blizzard themselves until at least MoP. Mannoroth was a HUGE example of this. Blizzard says not only in WoW but in commentary that Hellscream's sacrifice robbed the Legion of one of their greatest commanders. It was just a lazy way to reuse old villains and Blizzard knows it.
"I never believed that Sargeras could be stopped... Perhaps you will prove me wrong" And then Velen touched his face. I do believe he was sharing the vision of Sargeras' defeat as he used to do with him before KJ became a demon. That moment between these two, beautiful.
Do you know that I would like to think that one day it will happen? As we all know, we defeated Kil'Jaden, when he was defeated in Argus his death is final and he can no longer resurrect, that means that he would have gone to the Shadowlands, directly to the jaws, but, I want to think that when we settle the lawsuit that there is, it can be judged by the Prosecutor and at some point it is sent to Revendred to atone, since if we remember correctly, although he did everything he did, it was out of jealousy and because he thought that the Legion could not be defeated, so, just like Arthas should be sent to Revendred and that his sins are atoned for, seeing how in the cinematic he finally repents and seeing that Velen gave him peace by forgiving him, I think he should be tried too ...
Khadgar: "GOD DAMN IT, ILLIDAN!" Illidan: "What? We were going to have to deal with them sooner or later." Khadgar: *turns to Velen* "Did you foresee this!?" Velen: *looks away* "Maaaybe... I mean, it's not like I'm the one who brought him back to life..." Khadgar: -_-
Yeah but even then we all knew it was a stupid ass decision to make but unfortunantly we couldn't NOT make it. Khadgar is to blame for the Legion invasion, he failed when we entered Draenor and he failed to stop Gul'dan from reaching the tomb on Azeroth.
Khadgar: "What have you done?!" Illidan: "I skipped the next content patch." Khadgar: "Velen, can he do that?" Velen shrugs. Illidan: "For this, not even Sargeras was...... prepared." Illidan puts on sunglasses.
octapusxft Brox was a badass but not "Summon the fuckin Legion homeworld to Azeroth to force the Alliance and Horde to deal with Sargeras once and for all" badass.
actually... I think Velen's resentiment is building uo more fast than you imagine. During the exodar invasion he is so pissed of he would have tried to go kill kill jaden itself with the exodar. the death of his son has broken something in is faith. even if we see him so faithfull in the priest order hall, i belive that actually kil'jaden has succed in something at least: breaking Velen conviction. and breaking his conviction for the first time we see velen using another type of magic: I'm not going to say that he used the fel to make kil jaden explode, but surely he used that much of power to make him explode by his own fel. maybe he has just purified him, but still he, actually, killed him
" *Rhonin yells:* Citiziens of Dalaran, raise your eyes to the skies and observe." " *Rhonin yells:* Today our world's destruction has been averted in whaaa _aaaAAAA_ *_AAAA THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUU_* "
Even though Velen doesn't say a single word, his expression and Kil'Jaeden's words and final facial expression say a lot. After thousands of years, they are still brothers and Velen forgives him, despite all the evil he has committed. Beautiful.
Do you know that I would like to think that one day it will happen? As we all know, we defeated Kil'Jaden, when he was defeated in Argus his death is final and he can no longer resurrect, that means that he would have gone to the Shadowlands, directly to the jaws, but, I want to think that when we settle the lawsuit that there is, it can be judged by the Prosecutor and at some point it is sent to Revendred to atone, since if we remember correctly, although he did everything he did, it was out of jealousy and because he thought that the Legion could not be defeated, so, just like Arthas should be sent to Revendred and that his sins are atoned for, seeing how in the cinematic he finally repents and seeing that Velen gave him peace by forgiving him, I think he should be tried too ...
Khadgar: "We must find a pillars of creation, build few orderhalls, collect the nethershards, raise our artifact weapons, unite against Gul"Dan, help the Nigtfallen, etc, etc..." Illidan: "Didn't read. LoL"
Pretty remarkable that its still a topic of debate - "What was Velen's gesture toward Kil'Jaeden?' - about a year after the fact. It absolutely wasn't redemption. KJ was far beyond being redeemed. The atrocities he committed were unspeakable over tens of thousands of years. It wasn't really absolution either...there was no finality of Kil'Jaeden's ultimate goal that Velen would have needed to acknowledge here. Forgiveness? Maybe. There may have been some at least SOME hint of forgiveness here. Velen clearly understood after all these years exactly why it was that KJ and Arche threw in with Sargeras. KJ pretty much lays it out in that broad statement that he thought Sargeras would've just wiped them all from the face of reality had they not thrown in with him. They wouldn't have been able to stop him, not at that time. What that gesture I believe truly was, though? Acknowledgement. Velen acknowledged KJ's guilt. With just the gesture of his hand, he told KJ "I know." He also acknowledged his own guilt. That gesture also said "I shouldn't have left." KJ's face softened at the touch. He knew that Velen was telling him "We will stop him. Now, you can be at peace." Knowing that Velen was aware of his guilt and that even here, he still showed his brother some modicum of care was enough for him to accept his fate without the standard "Blaaaaarrrrrgh!" of a villain. It was said that for centuries, KJ was angry at Velen for leaving them. That wasn't villainous anger, it was heartbroken anger. Overall, this was a very touching moment in the history of the lore.
Man. In a sense, Kil'Jaeden is a tragic villain. He sold himself to Sargeras because he truly believed that there was no winning against him, and after seeing the forces of Azeroth come so far, and Velen by their side, he see's for the first time that he might just have been wrong.
That's a typical Illidan move for ya: Insanely dangerous, but effective... Much easier access for all of us! Demons can easily reach us and we can easily get to Argus and stop the Legion for good... Much excitement for the invasion of Argus is had! ^_^
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so beautiful. kil jaden basicially appologizes to velen in hes last moment, explaining why he joined sargeras. wishing velen and the heroes good luck against sargeras. i think kil jaden was hoping for the heroes to beat the legion in hes last dying moment!
Honestly Illidans actions make perfect sense. First he saw the the legion fully for what it is, tried to stop them and actually contributed a great deal by helping close the portal during war of the ancients. When he took action to preserve his people's immortality he was locked up for 10,000 years. When legion returned he was release as a mere tool of convenience and killed when he became inconvenient. Now he was revived I am sure he is not deluded enough to think things were going to be peachy. If he didn't force that portal open, everyone would think everything is peachy again go back to infighting. Label the next thing illidan does to prepare for legion as "reckless/dangerous" and lock him up or kill him again. Remember when he tried to take out Lick King during frozen throne? he was stopped because there would bystandards casualties which paled in comparison to shit that lich king did after he survived. So all in all, Illidan just put a constant reminder in the sky of the legion and forced a counter attack from Azeroth and created a possibility for Draenei to take back their home land. On a side note: I am hoping Illidan absorbed the power from Gul'dan and Kil'Jaeden so he can go beast mode against argus demons and get their power too. He is a demon hunter after all.
I am glad kil'jaeden got a little closure with Velen 7.3 better be worth the hype they built and not another broken shore that is somewhat boring. I am hoping for a full on war!
haven't they been working on Argus since they announced it a year ago? I hope Argus has a bigger role then what timeless isle/Tanaan jungle has had. there's a lot we could do then just push the legion off the planet and never go back.
They've used similar excuses in the past. Patch 7.2 was extremely underwhelming and hardly contained any content at all, for a multi billion dollar company they shouldn't be making excuses.
"Sometimes the hand of fate must be forced." People don't even realize this is as much cheese as "You are not prepared", since he said this same thing in Warcraft 3 when he summoned the naga...
can we just appreciate that Khadgar did an inter-planetary teleportation, whether it be just the three of them in the scene or the 20+ adventurers ingame. The man has *earned* the right to be called Medivh's successor, power and wisdom combined.
People saying illidan betrayed them but khadgar was like "welp we ded now" like 2 seconds before. ILLIDAN SAVED EVERYONE'S LIFE. i didn't see Velen complaining either.
For the record, KJ is one of the original ad guys. Before arthas, before illidan, before Sargeras, there was Guldans OG teacher KJ. And when Warcraft 2 came out; he became the legions go to guy. Any bad guy since KJ him is a poser. Besides Sargeras, who was created after him, KJ was the OG Warcraft devil.
@@AnimalHunter278 Don't be too proud of this army of minions you've amassed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.
I see a lot of comments talking about how Velen reacted to Kil'Jaeden. My own personal opinion is he didn't feel retribution, anger, sorrow, or felt like he was redeemed, I think he just felt pity for him. It just feels the most in-character. He can't forgive him for being an evil PoS, but can still feel bad his friend chose that route.
I think Illidan's the type of guy who would light your house on fire if you said it was cold. It solves your problem, but creates a whole new set of issues.
A draenei, human and a nightelf saves the world fighting demons in space. Meanwhile Horde is arguing if a troll, corpse witch or native american orc should be warchief. Cmon blizz..
Memento even tho the horde does all this too , only the dudes tied into legion are mainly alliance , because the alliance brought the horde to Azeroth to begin with
The significance of Khadgar’s line: “at least we will have died fighting” is that this is the exact opposite of what Kil’Jaeden did when he met Sargeras. Khadgar is basically calling KJ a coward.
I'm sorry, I know it's a small thing about this cinematic, but Velen placing a hand on Kil'jaeden spoke a lot of volumes if you know the lore between these two. I dunno how Velen deals with all the bullshit.
Having not played these expansions yet watching videos like this leaves more questions than answers and you can’t find out the answers unless you play them. Smart Blizzard, smart.
Raid leader : Who pulled the fucking planet ?
Illidan : i.. i think it was that hunter ?
ahahaha
Ravenhuh Zers Oh my god, Illidan just pulled the planet. Stick to the plan. Stick to the plan.
Am I lagging guys? I can't move.
More demons respawning. More respawning.
Cast divine intervention.
I'm trying!
Illidan you are just stupid as hell.
"Least I have chicken." -Illidan
Ravenhuh Zers noice
best comment ever
You mean the DEMON hunter right?
*Literally everyone:* "How will we get to Argus in 7.3?"
*Illidan:* "Hold my beer"
Lol
fuck it this one wins
best reply dude !!
Hold my skull
Nailed it
''Well, shit ''- Everyone standing in Goldshire
Eredar futa soon.
thank you good sir, your comment was spot on xD
Goobye "mrglrglmrglmrrrlggg!" Hello "Aaa-wacluck-wacluck-wacluck!"
(Murloc to imp sounds)
Actually Goldshire inn is the best hiding spot, not even the Legion can get out alive from that, i'm switching to Moonguard to be safe.
Sargeras: " WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOUR THE SON OF ARTHAS, BUT ALSO ILLIDAN BUT ALSO ME!? AND WHAT IS WITH ALL THESE 20 FOOT HORSE COCKS! O GOD I THINK IM GOING TO JUST STAB MYSELF!"
"Sometimes the hand of fate must be forced" - said hunter in LFR pulling all mobs possible.
Healer: What HAVE YOU DONE?!
Tank: YOU'VE DOOMED US ALL! BETRAYER!
@@tardwrangler XDDD
@@Wolfeson28 evil
@@Wolfeson28 this! I died
What have you done?" Illidan: I don't know. I cant see shit.
um, actually if ou knew the lore you would know that Illidan is perfectly capable of seeing through the band, which is dipped in demon blood and allows him to identify hidden demons. Maybe if you didn't waste your time commenting on shit you don't know about and actually picked up a wow lore book or idk PLAYED THE GODDAMN GAME you would know that
fucking idiot
lol jk that was hilarious and also i have no clue if what i said is true i played wow for like 1 month only xD
Jonerico well sargeras did burn illdan eyes he’s pretty much blind he can only sense stuff around him
thats pretty cool man!
@@CJAFTER5 if you played the game you'd know Sargeras burned his eyes out and gifted him new ones that can see anything and all magic. Noob get rekt read the lore
@@CJAFTER5 if you played the game you'd know Sargeras burned his eyes out and gifted him new ones that can see anything and all magic. Noob get rekt read the lore
The cinematic ends right before Khadgar starts shrieking and trying to strangle Illidan
5x3x1x5 That's creepy. VERY creepy
"After getting all the pillars of creation, that was the LAST thing I expected you to do, Illidan!"
"I guess you could say... you were not prepared for that."
5x3x1x5 Damn , you wild m8 ?
REEEEEEEE
Then illidan says "yes, daddy"
In Soviet Warcraft, Argus comes to you.
+1 to you
oh my god 10/10
second best comment!! lol
Aleksa Petrovic exactly put me on
AHAHAHAHA
"Trust in lord illidan's ways"
5mins later
"He did WHAT"
Josh Huston demon hunters would love to go to argus. Permadeath to demons now. You see demons regenerate back in the twisting nether but if killed in there they are perms dead. Now we can perms kill the demons
RWBY ROCKS but Argus isn't the twisting nether is it?
Bestbudcousin if they die on Argus they die permanently
Any place saturated with Fel Energy becomes connected to Twisting Nether.
Maiev will have a heart attack.
what heart...?!
Caio Diogo more like a stroke..
Caio Diogo Feels like after you defeated Kil'jaeden besides having Argus appear in the sky, all Wardens NPCs should be in a permanent state of face palm.
you sir , have a cookie , made me laugh madly , hahaha
Screw Maiev. She's never done anything right anyway.
"Ok guys this is the plan, we get the five pillars of creation and then seal the portal in the Tomb to stop the Legion!"
Illidan:"Understood, let's open the most gigantic portal connecting Azeroth with a world full of demons."
"What? NO!"
😂
The question is, if a portal from Terradenlle to Nathrezim's world blow up their planet, this portal could destroy more than 2 worlds XD
sounds like something he'd do tbh "lmao guys, now we can go kill them" he's edgy and brash like that
that last part I couldnt help but read in the voice of Mark Wahlberg
Vicente 810 Well, Illidan IS the betrayer. He always has ulterior motives. This is kinda what I expected from him.
1:50 CITIZENS OF DALARAN! RAISE YOUR EYES TO THE SKIES AND OBSERVE!
slowly but we'll get there :D
"THIS GIANT FUCKING PLANET BROUGHT TO US IN A STEAM FLASH SALE!"
Shut up Rhonin...
TODAY OUR WORLDS DESTRUCTION HAS BEEN ENDED IN THE VERY DEFIANCE OF OUR MAKERS, AGALON THE OBSERVER, HERALD OF THE TITANS, HAS BEEN DEFEATED IN THE DEPTHS OF ULDUAR.
I didn't even have to look it up. Sometimes I like to spam this is goldshire Moonguard
you're amazing
Well, Sargy just had Illidan open the biggest fucking door he could ever imagine.
An even bigger gateway than the Felstorm....
MY ASHBRINGER IS READY!
And that makes me believe will be the reason we sacrifice the power in out artifacts.
To close the portal that was just opened.
And it's STILL GROWING.
He's all like:
"Huh....I can actually fit my foot in this one, not bad!"
What's strange is that Sargeras had access to that device Illidan used since... Forever. Maybe it can't actually bring him to Azeroth for whatever reason?
Upon touching Kil'jaeden's forehead, it almost looked like Velen granted him a sense of Peace before he finally died. Peace within himself, and a satisfying answer for the tyrant he once called his brother. This cinematic is so, so great!
reason being is that Kil´jaeden was once the best friend and one of the main rulers of eredar race whom were corrupted by Sergaras and he believed that Sergaras wanted to purify them with knowledge and sentient actions but instead he intended to corrupt them... talking about the Velen´s vision he meant the one where he saw Sergaras´s truly intentions but they did not hear Velen out nor Archimonde did. As all the creatures controlled and corrupted by their "masters" they eventually freed their mind athe end of their existence and therefore you are absolutely right Kil´jaeden was glad that Velen succeded in defeating the burning legion for good! :)
This cinematic is LEGENDARY!!
@@MiggyTheNihilist Well put, Velen was definitely upset when he realized Kil'Jaeden thought it was his only option and he was envious of his best friend. My theory is he used one bit of holy magic when he touched his brow to let him know that Velen may not forget all the destruction, but he definitely forgave his best friend. Kil'Jaeden looked close to tears.
I'm like the rest of you. Always loved this part. See how tense and angry he still is even after being defeated? He was tortured mentally every single day since he chose to make this pact and when velen touches him, his expression completely changes and finally he finds some peace just before dying.
I always was interested by the fact that he started to fall apart more once Velen touched his head. It's as if his bitterness and pride were the only things sustaining him while he was mortally wounded and admitting his fault/reconciling with Velen caused him to let go of those things.
"Sometimes the hand of fate must be forced" Lol, He said the same line in WC 3 Cinematic
Seriously i envy ppl that remember stuff like that while i can't remember what i ate 2 days ago :(
Betrayer... In truth, it was I who was betrayed. Still, I am hunted. Still, I am hated. Now, my blind eyes see what others cannot: that sometimes the hand of fate must be forced! Now go forth... unleash the tides of Doom... Upon all those...who would oppose us.
Sir Ryu pero que haces aquí vete a explotar cosas o algo
The Frozen Throne expansion, actually.
Aleksandar Vil which is warcraft 3, not like he said reign of chaos.
Soo... We don't go to Argus. Instead Argus came to us.
3Brilliance it didn't move, the rift Illidan opened didnt go away
NEKR0 Of course it didn't ACTUALLY move. That would be disastrous for both worlds.
And I think we can fly to argus.
In Soviet Russia...
This almost reminds me a lot of transformers the last knight, which features an alien planet moving towards earth, maybe we will hear sargeras say "for my world to live, yours must die"
Khadgar: "at least we'll have died fighting"
warlocks: *quickly soulstones themselves* "err yeah, sure we will"
i can only imagine the Maiev Shadowsong reaction :
Maiev: congratulations ilidan you've won ...
Ilidan smiles...
... you've won another 10 000 years in jail.
More like an eternity
Illidan: Not if I became the Jailer of the greatest big evil boy Sargeras.
Maiev: ..... Dude..... You don't have to take it personal.
@@th3ra83 Illidan: look who's talking
Kil jaeden was so much more badass than the jailor
Indeed👍👍👍👍
1:18 - EVERYONE... GET IN HERE!
He says "GET READY!"
Reference to the Hearthstone card, is a joke we know he says get ready.
Hearthstone eastern egg?
EXACTLY What I thought!
ARE YOU ME?
Legion portals were convenient to the Legion. They allowed their forces to reach us while we have a hard time reaching them. Due to the fact that they cannot die in Azeroth and will just respawn, it provided the Legion endless waves of attack where they lose almost nothing.
The forces of Azeroth however don't have the same privilege of respawning like demons or our player character. A defensive war achieves nothing but delaying the Legion. It's impossible to compete with an infinitely respawning army in a defensive war unless you cut off their source. You cannot build up your forces faster than this enemy.
The portal Illidan opened is convenient for both sides. It lets the Legion attack us at full power but also lets us attack them in full force. Except this time, the demons we kill in Argus are dead for good since they can actually die permanently in places with high amounts of fel energy. This is why the Illidari has always adopted the strategy of going to their planet, killing their leader there and then blowing up that planet.
Also if you think about it, this is the strongest our player characters have been. We have legendary artifact weapons and Legionfall is composed of all class factions unified regardless of race. This is also the weakest the legion has been with both Archi and KJ dead.
If Illidan didn't open this portal now, you just know Azeroth is going to go back fighting a defensive war in hopes of "rebuilding" faster against an infinitely respawning opponent as if that's possible. Either that or the Alliance and Horde go back to bickering again. So he forces everyone to fight the war the Illidari way. Go in there and kill them in their home planet OR everyone dies. Is it selfish? Yes but you can't deny it's effective.
Verthras shorter way of saying this
illidan forced us to attack argus to destroy them once and forall because the legion is at its weakest point right now and we are at our strongest
Never was a fan of the infinitely respawning, not truly dead, nonsense the introduced to the Legion. They were indeed very killable prior to at least Cata or when they introduced that to the lore. It just seemed like a poor way to reintroduce the Legion.
@@halofornoobs93 i think its similar on warhammer
@@halofornoobs93 literally name one demon that we were able to perma kill before Cata. Go ahead, I'll wait
@@misterbleedinggums Literally any demon who died pre-cata was dead. The spirits of powerful demons would linger and they could be resurrected like anything else but they were quite dead in every other sense of the word. It wasn't until MoP that they introduced the idea that demons exist outside of realities/timelines and could only be killed in specific spots.
Numerous times in the books and in WoW is it hinted that the body should be destroyed so that they can never return to a physical form or that if you slay a legion solider they are in fact dead. Multiple times in the War of the Ancients series they talk about how killing demons only puts a tiny dent in the Legions numbers. Many of the demons killed in WC3 and WoW were considered permadead by Blizzard themselves until at least MoP. Mannoroth was a HUGE example of this. Blizzard says not only in WoW but in commentary that Hellscream's sacrifice robbed the Legion of one of their greatest commanders.
It was just a lazy way to reuse old villains and Blizzard knows it.
"I never believed that Sargeras could be stopped... Perhaps you will prove me wrong" And then Velen touched his face. I do believe he was sharing the vision of Sargeras' defeat as he used to do with him before KJ became a demon. That moment between these two, beautiful.
Do you know that I would like to think that one day it will happen? As we all know, we defeated Kil'Jaden, when he was defeated in Argus his death is final and he can no longer resurrect, that means that he would have gone to the Shadowlands, directly to the jaws, but, I want to think that when we settle the lawsuit that there is, it can be judged by the Prosecutor and at some point it is sent to Revendred to atone, since if we remember correctly, although he did everything he did, it was out of jealousy and because he thought that the Legion could not be defeated, so, just like Arthas should be sent to Revendred and that his sins are atoned for, seeing how in the cinematic he finally repents and seeing that Velen gave him peace by forgiving him, I think he should be tried too ...
Well, that escalated quickly.
Damnit, Illidan.
Khadgar: "GOD DAMN IT, ILLIDAN!"
Illidan: "What? We were going to have to deal with them sooner or later."
Khadgar: *turns to Velen* "Did you foresee this!?"
Velen: *looks away* "Maaaybe... I mean, it's not like I'm the one who brought him back to life..."
Khadgar: -_-
Well, to be fair, we players also had a hand in that.
Yeah but even then we all knew it was a stupid ass decision to make but unfortunantly we couldn't NOT make it. Khadgar is to blame for the Legion invasion, he failed when we entered Draenor and he failed to stop Gul'dan from reaching the tomb on Azeroth.
Cokeman I mean, if we're going back that far, shouldn't be just blame Wrathion?
DystopianCreativity Lets blame Garrosh :^)
Heribert Should we then blame Thrall for making Garrosh warchief in the first place? Man, he really fucked up this time.
Illidan: If you don't go to Argus with me then i'm bringing Argus to you >:(
Shadow yup pretty much what he did
Khadgar: "What have you done?!"
Illidan: "I skipped the next content patch."
Khadgar: "Velen, can he do that?"
Velen shrugs.
Illidan: "For this, not even Sargeras was...... prepared."
Illidan puts on sunglasses.
And then the music goes: “YEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH”
Illidan confirmed to be the most ballin' WoW character of all time.
What about Broxigar
octapusxft Brox was a badass but not "Summon the fuckin Legion homeworld to Azeroth to force the Alliance and Horde to deal with Sargeras once and for all" badass.
You can see the relieve on Kil'jaeden's face, that his friend has forgiven him
actually... I think Velen is the one who triggers the explosion
look at him and think of everything he has done to velen... the slaughter, the chase, his son. No way he has forgiven him
nah, than he would've been diing by the light
actually... I think Velen's resentiment is building uo more fast than you imagine. During the exodar invasion he is so pissed of he would have tried to go kill kill jaden itself with the exodar. the death of his son has broken something in is faith. even if we see him so faithfull in the priest order hall, i belive that actually kil'jaden has succed in something at least: breaking Velen conviction. and breaking his conviction for the first time we see velen using another type of magic: I'm not going to say that he used the fel to make kil jaden explode, but surely he used that much of power to make him explode by his own fel. maybe he has just purified him, but still he, actually, killed him
just look at Velen's face... that's not a face of hatred
" *Rhonin yells:* Citiziens of Dalaran, raise your eyes to the skies and observe."
" *Rhonin yells:* Today our world's destruction has been averted in whaaa _aaaAAAA_ *_AAAA THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUU_* "
Fulken rhonin died in the mana bomb it'd be khadgar
Ye I know, but it would still be hilarious.
thats what u get when u forgot to bring hodor along for the ride, nobody closes the damn door anymore
Seth Stevens i chimed in with a havent you people ever heard of closing a goddamn door
Even though Velen doesn't say a single word, his expression and Kil'Jaeden's words and final facial expression say a lot. After thousands of years, they are still brothers and Velen forgives him, despite all the evil he has committed. Beautiful.
KHADGAR : What have you done?
ILLIDAN: Alright time upt lets do this!
Garouchieflol .Gaming LEEEEEEERRROOYYYYYYY
KHADGAR: wait, did he just..? OH SHIT EVERYONE STICK TO THE PLAN
Atleast i have chicken
ILLIDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN STTTTTTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOORRRRRMMMMMMMMRRRRRRAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEE!!!
Velen "I wish I can see my homeworld again." Illidan "Say no more fam."
My plans are finally coming into fruition...
Also thanks Illidan!
Sargeras No problem m8 :D
This is underrated 😂😂😂
You just did my job mate
Gul'dan gtfo ya smell like fat gnome
Dun worry, you haven't met the group of 10 homeless geeks looking for fancy armor
"Sometimes, the hand of fate must be forced!" Illidan during the opening cinematic to Warcraft 3 The Frozen Throne! Love the continuity there.
It was at that moment, Khadgar knew, he fucked up.
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Well at least KJ had some moment of clarity and solace before his death. And Velen seemed to pity more than hate him in those moments.
Do you know that I would like to think that one day it will happen? As we all know, we defeated Kil'Jaden, when he was defeated in Argus his death is final and he can no longer resurrect, that means that he would have gone to the Shadowlands, directly to the jaws, but, I want to think that when we settle the lawsuit that there is, it can be judged by the Prosecutor and at some point it is sent to Revendred to atone, since if we remember correctly, although he did everything he did, it was out of jealousy and because he thought that the Legion could not be defeated, so, just like Arthas should be sent to Revendred and that his sins are atoned for, seeing how in the cinematic he finally repents and seeing that Velen gave him peace by forgiving him, I think he should be tried too ...
Khadgar: "We must find a pillars of creation, build few orderhalls, collect the nethershards, raise our artifact weapons, unite against Gul"Dan, help the Nigtfallen, etc, etc..."
Illidan: "Didn't read. LoL"
Pretty remarkable that its still a topic of debate - "What was Velen's gesture toward Kil'Jaeden?' - about a year after the fact.
It absolutely wasn't redemption. KJ was far beyond being redeemed. The atrocities he committed were unspeakable over tens of thousands of years. It wasn't really absolution either...there was no finality of Kil'Jaeden's ultimate goal that Velen would have needed to acknowledge here.
Forgiveness? Maybe. There may have been some at least SOME hint of forgiveness here. Velen clearly understood after all these years exactly why it was that KJ and Arche threw in with Sargeras. KJ pretty much lays it out in that broad statement that he thought Sargeras would've just wiped them all from the face of reality had they not thrown in with him. They wouldn't have been able to stop him, not at that time.
What that gesture I believe truly was, though? Acknowledgement. Velen acknowledged KJ's guilt. With just the gesture of his hand, he told KJ "I know." He also acknowledged his own guilt. That gesture also said "I shouldn't have left." KJ's face softened at the touch. He knew that Velen was telling him "We will stop him. Now, you can be at peace." Knowing that Velen was aware of his guilt and that even here, he still showed his brother some modicum of care was enough for him to accept his fate without the standard "Blaaaaarrrrrgh!" of a villain.
It was said that for centuries, KJ was angry at Velen for leaving them. That wasn't villainous anger, it was heartbroken anger. Overall, this was a very touching moment in the history of the lore.
Underrated comment
Kil'jaeden loved Velen as another aspect of himself. They were true meaning of bromance
Who gives a crap, Warcraft plot has been garbage for over a decade now.
he will be in shadowlands.
Trust in Lord Illidan...I think...maybe...right?
Lord Illidan knows the way.. to Argus :>
"Trust in Lord Illidan, he knows the way to Patch 7.3"
He doesn't know the way to patch 7.4, unfortunately...
This was such an incredible cinematic back in the days... and still today.
Man. In a sense, Kil'Jaeden is a tragic villain. He sold himself to Sargeras because he truly believed that there was no winning against him, and after seeing the forces of Azeroth come so far, and Velen by their side, he see's for the first time that he might just have been wrong.
Good ol' Illidan.
I love the confidence in Illidan's voice.
That's a typical Illidan move for ya: Insanely dangerous, but effective...
Much easier access for all of us! Demons can easily reach us and we can easily get to Argus and stop the Legion for good...
Much excitement for the invasion of Argus is had! ^_^
Literally everyone: "How will we get to Argus in 7.3?"
Illidan: "Hold my eyes"
XD
i'll be holding bloody mush lmao
(slams gavle) 10,000 years no probation! next case!
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so beautiful. kil jaden basicially appologizes to velen in hes last moment, explaining why he joined sargeras. wishing velen and the heroes good luck against sargeras. i think kil jaden was hoping for the heroes to beat the legion in hes last dying moment!
What have you done?!
"Let there be 3 more expansions"
2:00 "Now, my blind eyes see what others cannot. That sometimes the hand of fate, must be forced."
What a cool callback to the Frozen Throne intro.
Honestly Illidans actions make perfect sense. First he saw the the legion fully for what it is, tried to stop them and actually contributed a great deal by helping close the portal during war of the ancients. When he took action to preserve his people's immortality he was locked up for 10,000 years. When legion returned he was release as a mere tool of convenience and killed when he became inconvenient. Now he was revived I am sure he is not deluded enough to think things were going to be peachy. If he didn't force that portal open, everyone would think everything is peachy again go back to infighting. Label the next thing illidan does to prepare for legion as "reckless/dangerous" and lock him up or kill him again. Remember when he tried to take out Lick King during frozen throne? he was stopped because there would bystandards casualties which paled in comparison to shit that lich king did after he survived.
So all in all, Illidan just put a constant reminder in the sky of the legion and forced a counter attack from Azeroth and created a possibility for Draenei to take back their home land.
On a side note: I am hoping Illidan absorbed the power from Gul'dan and Kil'Jaeden so he can go beast mode against argus demons and get their power too. He is a demon hunter after all.
I am glad kil'jaeden got a little closure with Velen
7.3 better be worth the hype they built and not another broken shore that is somewhat boring. I am hoping for a full on war!
I have theory they fucked up Broken Shore cause they are working on Argus.
Hopefully!
haven't they been working on Argus since they announced it a year ago? I hope Argus has a bigger role then what timeless isle/Tanaan jungle has had. there's a lot we could do then just push the legion off the planet and never go back.
That was the same thing they said about Legion in regards to WoD
They've used similar excuses in the past. Patch 7.2 was extremely underwhelming and hardly contained any content at all, for a multi billion dollar company they shouldn't be making excuses.
*Everyone flees in panic*
Demonhunter 1:" Told u he gonna do that"
*Demonhunter 2 hands over 5 gold*
"Sometimes the hand of fate must be forced." People don't even realize this is as much cheese as "You are not prepared", since he said this same thing in Warcraft 3 when he summoned the naga...
That moment when Velen put his hand on Kil'Jaeden - Like older Brother - Epic
can we just appreciate that Khadgar did an inter-planetary teleportation, whether it be just the three of them in the scene or the 20+ adventurers ingame.
The man has *earned* the right to be called Medivh's successor, power and wisdom combined.
And yet, he still cracks puns like a dad and treats the adventurer like a friend. I miss doing stuff for him every day.
"What have you done!?"
"What Gul'dan failed to do"
Proceeds to fuck Khadgar up and conquer Azeroth.
People saying illidan betrayed them but khadgar was like "welp we ded now" like 2 seconds before. ILLIDAN SAVED EVERYONE'S LIFE. i didn't see Velen complaining either.
For the record, KJ is one of the original ad guys. Before arthas, before illidan, before Sargeras, there was Guldans OG teacher KJ. And when Warcraft 2 came out; he became the legions go to guy. Any bad guy since KJ him is a poser. Besides Sargeras, who was created after him, KJ was the OG Warcraft devil.
God Damnit Illidan
i always wanted to go to Argus, so thx illi
"How will we get to Argus in 7.3?"
*Khadgar:* "We'll just teleport Dalaran to Argus now."
Illidan be like:
"We should take Argus, and push it somewhere else!"
you can be useful to the legion, vader, come join us
@@AnimalHunter278 Don't be too proud of this army of minions you've amassed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.
Darth Vader the force can be useful, and so does the Fel
Illidan: Sometimes the hand of fate must be forced!
Maiev: And YOUR hands must be forced into shackles, *ILLIDAN*.
1:19 Khadgar connected to the mic of the ship's sound system!!🤣
Well, that makes the trip to Argus a lot shorter.
Next time I'm booking a flight, I'm going to Illidan!
now i wait for nixxiom to change this :>
Metzen face in the place of Argus?
He should start doing Ion and Tabletlordx memes.
YESSS THAT LINE! "Sometimes the hand of fate... must be forced." It's been so long.
Lots of dudes just straight up exploding this expansion.
The look on Khadgar's face is absolutely priceless.
0:23 "NO ONE CAN STOP DEATH"..ahh wait wrong game.
the last time this game was good was when argus was visible in the sky
Big agree probably my favorite expansion, Suramar was great. After Legion it was just straight downhill
"Sir, what do we do about the Legion?" *Serious face.* "We should just take Argus...and PUSH IT somewhere else!"
Illidan: Hey what can I say, I love killing demons.
Lord Illidan knows the way
I see a lot of comments talking about how Velen reacted to Kil'Jaeden. My own personal opinion is he didn't feel retribution, anger, sorrow, or felt like he was redeemed, I think he just felt pity for him. It just feels the most in-character. He can't forgive him for being an evil PoS, but can still feel bad his friend chose that route.
I think Illidan's the type of guy who would light your house on fire if you said it was cold. It solves your problem, but creates a whole new set of issues.
Jackson Blue ROFL
Me: "So we're gonna kill Kil'Jaeden, then take his Disco Party Ship and ride it to Argus?"
Blizzard: Lol *NOPE*
A draenei, human and a nightelf saves the world fighting demons in space. Meanwhile Horde is arguing if a troll, corpse witch or native american orc should be warchief. Cmon blizz..
Memento even tho the horde does all this too , only the dudes tied into legion are mainly alliance , because the alliance brought the horde to Azeroth to begin with
We sure were not prepared... FOR THIS!!! 0_0
The significance of Khadgar’s line: “at least we will have died fighting” is that this is the exact opposite of what Kil’Jaeden did when he met Sargeras. Khadgar is basically calling KJ a coward.
Where is the Illidan, Tyrande and Malfurion reunion?
On Argus, they'll probably ditch Illidan as a symbol of gratitude
KILROGG!!!
BUT WE WILL BE CONQUERORS!!!!
KIIIILROGG
*Kil gets smashed by Archimonde*
Goddamnit Nixiom xD
+warmongerer of Warsong 😂
IM DIEING XD
KIIIILLLLLROOOOOOGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just love the way Khadgar's VA delivers that line.
"WHAT. HAVE. YOU. DONE?!?"
Khadgar: What have you done?!
Illidan: I don't know, i can't see shit.
I live for Illidan's shit eating grin while he stares up at Argus.
just watched 8.3. ending, had to come here to remember what good cinematic is
These are getting better and better! Keep em coming blizzard!
"I never believed that Sargeras could be stopped....Perhaps you will prove me wrong."
Noooo, don't you dare making Sargeras an endboss, Blizzard!
Khadgar: "Illidan srsly?!"
Illidan: "I always wanted to have my own planet"
Khadgar: ...
I'm sorry, I know it's a small thing about this cinematic, but Velen placing a hand on Kil'jaeden spoke a lot of volumes if you know the lore between these two. I dunno how Velen deals with all the bullshit.
he took that defeat like a boss tho
Linking the two worlds via massive portal is much better than just going to Argus...CHAOS IS COMING!
Leave it to Illidan to have his fancy one liner at the end.
Illidan has now extra point babes for Tyrande for opening a portal this big
-What have you done?
-Made us a rad new moon. You're welcome
WoW is the best continuous shitshow of writing I've ever seen. Keep it up, Bliz.
Such a good expansion
Illidan makes me feel so much better as a Demon Hunter main. Atleast I am not the most insane one in the game.
Having not played these expansions yet watching videos like this leaves more questions than answers and you can’t find out the answers unless you play them.
Smart Blizzard, smart.
Can't wait to see what Nobbel has to say about this.