I have one of each of those discs. They were given to me while I was playing in the 2014 Deans Cup by the creator of both discs. He was trying to get their name out there. At the time neither disc was approved. I think the Tiger got approved but he had to change the name. I have an orange Tiger and the flexible one. The Tiger is actually an Innova mold, I forget which one but it was the creator’s unique plastic blend.
The Tiger was a clone of the TeeBird 5th Gen CE. The 12 Speed, a Champion D Destroyer clone, was to be called the Seahawk. Each disc is out of 100. The Terrapin, Bird-Dog and 11 Speed Proto were, 01' USDGC Roc, 10X Aviar and 06' Champion CFR Wraith Using plastics similar to original CE.
This is so cool. As a customer from very near Biloxi, MS, it is very interesting to me! I would call the disc the fleur de flight. Great news about the recycling program too!
Hi, I actually was kinda involved in this “company”. Basically there was this guy Joshua Wenger who wanted a CE replica of a Roc, Teebird, and Destroyer. I know this because I traded him a 1st run *D and a 1st (CE) run teebird for this. There are actually some really hard runs as well that failed the pdga guidelines. He couldn’t seem to get the manufacturer he used to make what he wanted. I haven’t spoke with him in a long time so I have no clue about future endeavors.
@@usmcfabian there is the older pre Champion called Champion Edition discs that say this on the disc from before 20054 and most get harder with time to the point of shattering but this is not what I am talking about as this plastic changed from run to run and was never translucent like modern champion, it became the basis for the opaque runs of Pro you see up to even today in some discs. What I mean is they are old Champion in the second, possibly third runs as well the stiff star stamp on the disc. I know as I have/had the soft Champion Valkyrie of this either a second or third run from 2005 after the stiff star stamp and stiff very early small batch of production second run in my bag until the disc changed color from blue to a blue green sitting in front of a 2009 Ice Bowl Banana Yellow Star Valkyrie that never changed color at all, I think I still have the Champion disc. The disc also got worn out to where it was flying like a Gazel not a Valkyrie. However, the 2007 Destroyer had its early true production be made of a composition very very similar to the old flexible Champion with the star stamp Run being very hard like the other star stamped Champion and very early part of the first run of these Champion discs.
Fire chicken what we call them down here in lower Bama. They made them in a harder premium yellow plastic as well. Flies like a tee bird with more dome for a little extra glide. Maybe not the one you threw as it had a much smaller rim but same stamp. Matt Orum or his dad may have more knowledge of who the owners were and what prototypes they made. My friends uncle is very good friends with Matt and his dad so that's how I got one. RMFTx18
I met one of the guys who was involved with Paradigm playing at Hiller Park near Biloxi in 2014/15, they were excited to be getting started at the time but it seems like they might have started too early.
Okay! So I was looking through PDGA approved molds. Shoutout to the dune Jessy! But clicked on my favorite disc the DD Raider. And by golly. The last disc jessy shows is pictured in the pictures submitted for the DD Raider!
That is actually an awesome thing to do. I was just thinking about this the other day. I have some disc that have just gotten overly beat in and are pretty much useless to me now. But they just hang around because it seems like such a waste to just huck them in the trash.
Awesome new program! And I love the wholesome plug for R.I.P. at the end. If they were to come back, their marketing would only grow more powerful. They could do a whole undead rising and return to disc golf.... for brains. Perfectly on brand!
Jesse, you doing some incredible work to grow our sport! Creating discs sustainably, working to create a place for retired discs, getting discs in the hands of school children...... Seriously, you're one of the most amazing humans in the disc golf world!
Haha! The Grove was one of the first (maybe THE first) discs I ever bought. I picked up a clear X-out at PIAS, obviously having no idea what I was doing. I don't remember getting rid of it but I haven't seen it in years, so I must have. I'd like to go back and throw it again just to see.
You ought to have a program where if local leagues donate a certain amount of discs to be recycled they get custom awards from you. Maybe trophies, bag tags, minis, whatever.
You should try and find a salient disc? It was floppy like that but they have an interesting story. They wanted to create a consistent production process so they built a temperature and humidity control production facility. The problem is their discs were not very good and their start up costs were clearly astronomical.
I have one of the hundred of those drivers that are unnamed. I won it in a CTP. Very interesting flight. It just hangs out with my other discs on my showcase shelf.
Should try to get your hands on a Daredevil discs Ogopogo. The Elastic plastic might be even more flexible that what you were showing but not transformed
Hahaha a "graboid" is the name for the worm creatures from the movie Tremors. That's honestly one of the coolest names for a putter I've ever heard!! 😁
I actually have a Rip Relic. It’s kind of a cool old over mold, but it clearly went through some stuff before I got it. It’s beat to hell. Im not sure if I’ve ever even thrown it.
Maybe you could send some through Scott Stokely to east asia. Theyre starting to build courses, but discs are equivalent to a weeks worth of work in some places there. It seems like a great cause
I just had an idea when you were doing the intro for the disc. I see people recycle skateboard wheels and make fingerboard wheels with em. What if you took small amounts of urethane from skate board wheels and put it in with plastic? Just an idea I’m truly interested in. It would be sick to hear your opinion on this and if you know if it’s been done before.
I actually own a terrapin that I picked up in Mobile, AL years ago. Super Overstable Midrange. Unfortunately I know very little about the brand, as they really wernt around very long.
I'm sure you get a bunch of praises already for all you've done so far but still, here it goes: Jesse Stedman, you make the game of disc golf, and just the world in general, much much better!
On further reflection, the lilly is the flower that is commonly used at funerals and symbolizes the departure of the soul from the body. Seing as how this symbol on the disc shows a skeletal bird in the shape of a flur de lis (which means flower of the lilly) i would say it is a souless bird flying. So since doom bird is already taken how about "THE GRIM EAGLE"! I prefer less dark names to things but it seams to fit.
yea thats a lot of symbolism for no reason. MS state bird is the pelican, the flur de lis is a new orleans(biloxi/gport is less than an hour away from nola)thing that the gulf coast has adopted to its own or the creator is from nola/has ties, and with it being dead/skele nola is obsessed with death. All of these things are extremely common symbols to see on items down here. The fact that you've somehow spun some elaborate story for absolutely no reason eludes me but alas we are here.
@@yabiochya yet his comment was far more enjoyable to read... The Fleur-de-lis, (French: “lily flower”) has been round for near a couple of thousand years and used by the French et al in heraldry for the last 1500 or so years. It's a world wide symbol that was well used in a neat skeletal bird like image... @nyqpi4624 was having a guess (as with his hue of "..I would say". Of course we could always ask @demamazins5432 who appears to possibly be one of the creators. Or perhaps @LUDAing who did a bunch of stamps for them.
Dude you should also colab with scott stokely who is trying to get discs over to asia and other less developed countries. Would be awesome if you could send some discs his way
Uses to have 2 ofceach mold. Loved the tiger. Lost both. Liked thrm for thumbers bc they fell flat wgen they landed. Stollhave the crazy flex mid range. Not my favorite One of my buddy has the driver still but its the stiffer glass plastic
Jesse! Found some info, DMd you on Instagram. I think I might’ve found the founder/an affiliate… don’t wanna share the name publicly without being 100% certain.
I have two of those. One is really floppy like your white one only mine is black same stamp. The other is hard plastic in blue, same stamp. I got them for winning a division in Humboldt county California. The story I heard was that two dudes that work for some company started their own. Then some lawsuits. No facts that's just what I heard. If you email me I'll send you some pictures
I have one of each of those discs. They were given to me while I was playing in the 2014 Deans Cup by the creator of both discs. He was trying to get their name out there. At the time neither disc was approved. I think the Tiger got approved but he had to change the name. I have an orange Tiger and the flexible one. The Tiger is actually an Innova mold, I forget which one but it was the creator’s unique plastic blend.
Unique plastic blend of moms toy collection lol
Thats an awesome story!
@@imuruncledaddy8753 it was nice of your mom to donate it.
The Tiger was a clone of the TeeBird 5th Gen CE.
The 12 Speed, a Champion D Destroyer clone, was to be called the Seahawk.
Each disc is out of 100.
The Terrapin, Bird-Dog and 11 Speed Proto were, 01' USDGC Roc, 10X Aviar and 06' Champion CFR Wraith
Using plastics similar to original CE.
Mind blown. How do you know?
@@mkrausch4059 I created them
@@demamazins5432 We need the whole story now. What happened
@@demamazins5432 That would explain it :).
Discs are numbered to 100. Tigers in Orange = ?
"...or if you have a Groove" lololol 😂
found 3 of em so far on the course nobody even marked their name on then since it's so hated 🤣
@@DIAMONDBACK__6 I have one I literally scribbled my number off of, it’s my water hole disc and it refuses to perish
Put a buddies name and number with "reward" on the bottom and leave it on the course.
💀
I literally have one to a kid the other day
I might know the Rip Disc Golf guy.... oh wait that's me, been a while since I ran any disc's.
dude you are incredible to start a program like that. Thank you for what you do for the community and the planet!
This is so cool. As a customer from very near Biloxi, MS, it is very interesting to me! I would call the disc the fleur de flight. Great news about the recycling program too!
This is an awesome program announcement! Thank you for everything you are doing for the community.
Hi, I actually was kinda involved in this “company”. Basically there was this guy Joshua Wenger who wanted a CE replica of a Roc, Teebird, and Destroyer. I know this because I traded him a 1st run *D and a 1st (CE) run teebird for this. There are actually some really hard runs as well that failed the pdga guidelines. He couldn’t seem to get the manufacturer he used to make what he wanted. I haven’t spoke with him in a long time so I have no clue about future endeavors.
Thanks for the info!
what is CE?
@@bamwa Champion Edition
@@usmcfabian there is the older pre Champion called Champion Edition discs that say this on the disc from before 20054 and most get harder with time to the point of shattering but this is not what I am talking about as this plastic changed from run to run and was never translucent like modern champion, it became the basis for the opaque runs of Pro you see up to even today in some discs. What I mean is they are old Champion in the second, possibly third runs as well the stiff star stamp on the disc. I know as I have/had the soft Champion Valkyrie of this either a second or third run from 2005 after the stiff star stamp and stiff very early small batch of production second run in my bag until the disc changed color from blue to a blue green sitting in front of a 2009 Ice Bowl Banana Yellow Star Valkyrie that never changed color at all, I think I still have the Champion disc. The disc also got worn out to where it was flying like a Gazel not a Valkyrie. However, the 2007 Destroyer had its early true production be made of a composition very very similar to the old flexible Champion with the star stamp Run being very hard like the other star stamped Champion and very early part of the first run of these Champion discs.
Spot on reply. Thank you Eric Day for your response
Adam's Hollow! great course, wish I was still in that area
BIG Congratulations Jesse on the whole recycling program... this is gonna be a much larger program in the years to come
Fire chicken what we call them down here in lower Bama. They made them in a harder premium yellow plastic as well. Flies like a tee bird with more dome for a little extra glide. Maybe not the one you threw as it had a much smaller rim but same stamp. Matt Orum or his dad may have more knowledge of who the owners were and what prototypes they made. My friends uncle is very good friends with Matt and his dad so that's how I got one. RMFTx18
Adams Hollow!!! My fave course.
Glad to see production has kinda gotten under control and are able to put out content again
I met one of the guys who was involved with Paradigm playing at Hiller Park near Biloxi in 2014/15, they were excited to be getting started at the time but it seems like they might have started too early.
I did a bunch of stamps for Paridigm(Josh) in 2014. Some got stamped and some didn't see the light of day. It's sad that it never took off.
Okay! So I was looking through PDGA approved molds. Shoutout to the dune Jessy! But clicked on my favorite disc the DD Raider. And by golly. The last disc jessy shows is pictured in the pictures submitted for the DD Raider!
That is actually an awesome thing to do. I was just thinking about this the other day. I have some disc that have just gotten overly beat in and are pretty much useless to me now. But they just hang around because it seems like such a waste to just huck them in the trash.
Adams hollow! Love that course
Disc name--Skeksis from the dark crystal.
Awesome new program! And I love the wholesome plug for R.I.P. at the end. If they were to come back, their marketing would only grow more powerful. They could do a whole undead rising and return to disc golf.... for brains. Perfectly on brand!
Y'all just keep getting better and better!!
Man I just love what you're doing, and the hits keep coming!
Jesse, you doing some incredible work to grow our sport! Creating discs sustainably, working to create a place for retired discs, getting discs in the hands of school children...... Seriously, you're one of the most amazing humans in the disc golf world!
Now do one on Lightning Discs
Haha! The Grove was one of the first (maybe THE first) discs I ever bought. I picked up a clear X-out at PIAS, obviously having no idea what I was doing. I don't remember getting rid of it but I haven't seen it in years, so I must have. I'd like to go back and throw it again just to see.
What a cool new venture! Congrats!!!
You ought to have a program where if local leagues donate a certain amount of discs to be recycled they get custom awards from you. Maybe trophies, bag tags, minis, whatever.
The Fluer de Bird!
That would probably be a blood eagle, as in the old Viking torture method.
I am so happy about this program. Really, really happy!
You should try and find a salient disc? It was floppy like that but they have an interesting story. They wanted to create a consistent production process so they built a temperature and humidity control production facility. The problem is their discs were not very good and their start up costs were clearly astronomical.
The combination of bones and a bird-style head makes me wanna call it the "vulture"
Will you do an updated 2023 in the bag video? Pleaseeeee
Adams hollow, my local course. How cool.
I'd name that disc the "Fleur-de-lark"
I knew as soon as I saw the squach. They had him dressed up like a bunny for Easter a few weeks ago.
I have one of the hundred of those drivers that are unnamed. I won it in a CTP. Very interesting flight. It just hangs out with my other discs on my showcase shelf.
I used to have a terrapin, got it sometime in 2014. Flew just like a roc
Do a review on Aerobie's epic! Same concept as this disc, but with a completely unique rim shape underneath!
Should try to get your hands on a Daredevil discs Ogopogo. The Elastic plastic might be even more flexible that what you were showing but not transformed
Hahaha a "graboid" is the name for the worm creatures from the movie Tremors.
That's honestly one of the coolest names for a putter I've ever heard!! 😁
I too instantly thought of Tremors when I heard that name. What a great movie from my childhood.
logo is pretty cool for that disc. fleur d'eagle. i need to get out to AH now that the snow is down
Cool video. Good info guys. Cheers
I actually have a Rip Relic. It’s kind of a cool old over mold, but it clearly went through some stuff before I got it. It’s beat to hell. Im not sure if I’ve ever even thrown it.
Maybe you could send some through Scott Stokely to east asia. Theyre starting to build courses, but discs are equivalent to a weeks worth of work in some places there.
It seems like a great cause
RIP discs! I have a few of those still! Skipper from Cottage grove Oregon ran that company.
Great idea man, keep this shit up.
This reminds me of my first favorite putter. It was a Ching Juju. Very unique with thumb spots. Definitely some lost creativity out there.
Ching bomb too.
Congrats, man. I'm working on my dream as well so cool you kept at it cheers man
I’m from New Orleans and need that disc with the skeleton pelican plz
I just had an idea when you were doing the intro for the disc. I see people recycle skateboard wheels and make fingerboard wheels with em. What if you took small amounts of urethane from skate board wheels and put it in with plastic? Just an idea I’m truly interested in. It would be sick to hear your opinion on this and if you know if it’s been done before.
I actually own a terrapin that I picked up in Mobile, AL years ago. Super Overstable Midrange. Unfortunately I know very little about the brand, as they really wernt around very long.
Those floppy overstable discs could be useful because they have like zero skip
I have a fluid felon. skips a bit, but on a spike hyzer it just flopps
@@andreasstam1 Yea, but with floppy plastic it should so the same with normal hyzer throw
Disc name: "Squelette de Vol". Translates to skeleton of flying or flying skeleton but got to be the French version because of the Fleur de Lis shape.
“Or if you have a Groove!” 😂😂
I love what you're doing for the sport. Keep up the good work sir.
That disc should be called the Zombie Peacock
🤣
I'm sure you get a bunch of praises already for all you've done so far but still, here it goes: Jesse Stedman, you make the game of disc golf, and just the world in general, much much better!
On further reflection, the lilly is the flower that is commonly used at funerals and symbolizes the departure of the soul from the body. Seing as how this symbol on the disc shows a skeletal bird in the shape of a flur de lis (which means flower of the lilly) i would say it is a souless bird flying.
So since doom bird is already taken how about
"THE GRIM EAGLE"!
I prefer less dark names to things but it seams to fit.
yea thats a lot of symbolism for no reason.
MS state bird is the pelican, the flur de lis is a new orleans(biloxi/gport is less than an hour away from nola)thing that the gulf coast has adopted to its own or the creator is from nola/has ties, and with it being dead/skele nola is obsessed with death. All of these things are extremely common symbols to see on items down here. The fact that you've somehow spun some elaborate story for absolutely no reason eludes me but alas we are here.
@@yabiochya yet his comment was far more enjoyable to read...
The Fleur-de-lis, (French: “lily flower”) has been round for near a couple of thousand years and used by the French et al in heraldry for the last 1500 or so years.
It's a world wide symbol that was well used in a neat skeletal bird like image... @nyqpi4624 was having a guess (as with his hue of "..I would say".
Of course we could always ask @demamazins5432 who appears to possibly be one of the creators.
Or perhaps @LUDAing who did a bunch of stamps for them.
Biloxi sounds like “Biluxy”, but the way you said it does sound fancy
Any international partners planned to save on shipping?
Hopefully as we build out the program a little more 👍
Mystery disc stamp kinda looks like a Skeksis.
I have a RIP Ballistic and it's not good. But that's what the orange one is... my ballistic has that tombstone on it as well..
Dude you should also colab with scott stokely who is trying to get discs over to asia and other less developed countries. Would be awesome if you could send some discs his way
I would name the mystery disc Fluer de Reaper
Yup! Thats the one for sure
That’s the fastest Maiden I’ve ever seen!
Us southerners call that city Bih-Lux-See.
I had a feeling I might have said it wrong! Thanks for the catch 🙏
I was looking for this comment!!
Uses to have 2 ofceach mold. Loved the tiger. Lost both. Liked thrm for thumbers bc they fell flat wgen they landed. Stollhave the crazy flex mid range. Not my favorite
One of my buddy has the driver still but its the stiffer glass plastic
Fleur-de-lis would be good since that is the symbol on it.
I have 2 bird dog's they are great
Nice work Jesse I got discs for you!!!
looks like it's supposed to be a pelican. maybe i'm just extrapolating based on their biloxi origins
Jesse! Found some info, DMd you on Instagram. I think I might’ve found the founder/an affiliate… don’t wanna share the name publicly without being 100% certain.
It obviously has to be called
Fleop Disc Lis because it’s floppy with a fleur de lis stamp 🤣
Is there a disc called the Claw? I would call it that for sure😊
I would call it the Skull-De-Lis
The comment about the Groove made me laugh, so kudos on that. However, I happen to like my Champion Groove.
Just sayin hi. Great stuff Jessie
Omg, that disc looks like Chamberlain from The Dark Crystal. I'd 1,000% name that Chamberlain 😊
"What would you name this disc"? I would name it "Terrapin" or "Bird-dog" as it was PDGA approved as (?). Hard to tell which though.
Looks like another raptor stamp
"but to tell you that im going to go back to the begi.." yeah skip to 4:38
Uplay? isn't that a Ubisoft trademark?
Based on the stamp "Wendigo"
The Cassowary
I’d call it the Birdie Gras (like Mardi gras)
Bro is this I'm brighton?
death claw for sure
I would call the disc the “Death Bird” or the “Dodo” since it’s a skeleton bird and all dodos are skeletons at best.
It should be called "Fleur-de-vautours"
Wooohooo! This is awesome news! Now I can finally get rid of all the grooves I get in disc exchanges 😂
🤣
I have a disc from this manufacturer
Ooooh which one and what do you think?!
Bone vulture?
Skeledactyl 💀🦖
Bonedactyl Flex
Being from Mississippi it's pronounced Bih-luk-see. 😅 just wanted to put that for the record
Teebird? More like Fleur-de-lisBird.
Mississippian here…it’s bu-lux-cee not bi-locks-ee. lol.
If you have a groove 😂🔥
Hollow baby!!
I have two of those. One is really floppy like your white one only mine is black same stamp. The other is hard plastic in blue, same stamp. I got them for winning a division in Humboldt county California. The story I heard was that two dudes that work for some company started their own. Then some lawsuits. No facts that's just what I heard. If you email me I'll send you some pictures
Name the white disc something cool like: Necromancer or Voodoo