I've always been a fan of Babymonster, since pre-debut (Im a fan of most yg groups) so I was extremely excited when BV debuted and was confused when ppl were hating on them. Yeah they do give off the same vibe but there's obviously diffrences
The producer of Badvillain’s title track Badvillain has a history of using classical strings with hip hop beat. And badvillain’s theme is center around the villainous theme. The hand sign that people claim are similar goes all the way back to american rock and metal. So no Badvillain did not copy Babymonster.
inhye was my main pick on mtg and every single track was a massive eat (my fav is hurricane and +82). yall dont know the difference between copying and a concept for ONE song, also imo they both but their own vibe through it like bv has a more futuristic y3k kinda vibe where as sheesh has a princess kinda vibe. for once a rant video was actually enjoyable. keep up the great work!
the thing is when bv dropped the individual introduction videos they had the same bg music like bm's batter up individual teaser and again the group photos of bv which again resemble with baemon group photos isn't it too similar to call it a coincidence when baemon had debuted not that long ago .and again the hand thing which is too similar with baemon. I belive it was a publicity stunt to gain People's attention to bv which is not bad thing but truth is they do copied or u can say took inspiration from baemon.
let's talk about this. one, that bg music is a sample... that yg doesn't own. two, the group photos where they used a silhouette and a red background were used by people before baemon ... omg, right? three, the hand sign is horns, which is get this.. from rock and roll and connected to villains, or free people who generally don't go by societal standards, which is badvillain's concept. like op stated, all these things have been used before + or are really common, so you can't go claiming that it was a way to be baemon. the only thing ya'll have any sort of point in is the music sample... but even then, you dull your argument by claiming everything under the sun as a copy.. when it's not original enough to be yours alone. it also makes it seem like ya'll don't understand your group's concept well enough if you wanna say the two groups are so so similar.
Your argument does not work the moment you said 'baemon had debuted not that long ago', do you know how long it takes to plan a debut? BV's producer said it himself, their group name and logo was created in 2020, that's how long it takes
@@praktigal lets start with the with the bg music i very well know that yg doesn't own it but isn't it too similar or i would say exact same with the baemons one .and I've never said anything about the red bg thing but what about the grp photos ? And now u explain the hand sign thing i would leave it. I understand u are a bv stan so u are defending it but what about the all this similarities ?yes baemon is not original either but all this thing is related to baemon a group which has not debuted that long ago from bv which means all this thing is still fresh in peoples mind . i never claim about the concept being similar i think bv resembles xg more rather baemon. Im not a bv hater nor a stan .its just i think all that was a publicity stunt to gain attention to bv debut and it worked.
@Daziyy_Ava I said it was a sample. yes, it was the same sample. but like I said, they don't own it. anyone can use it. the group photos??? in denim (that every group has used)???? or are you talking something else? none of their concept photos for overstep looked anything like baemon's. two, like mentioned before, all of this planning conceptually and otherwise, has been in the works for near 4 years. baemon too, has been in the works for a bit. sheesh wasn't even their official debut, so tell me why we should skirt around some of the common things they did? just because people (who clearly can't differentiate out of pettiness) connect all these things to baemon it doesn't mean bv is playing on "what's fresh in someone's mind." I'd be saying the same thing even if I didn't stan. I just think it's stupid to claim common things for one group... and YG stans are notoriously stupid like that ❤ You think I should take serious a fandom who wanted to complain about ONE overlapping shirt (not even the same outfit, just a shirt) in promotion to the point they were popping veins?
@@praktigallol im too late .anyways first off sheesh is their official debut baemon members themselves decided it. And second off i think this arugemnt is going nowhere since u seems to stand on ur opinion and i to mine at the end we are just the fans who don't knw whats going on, inside the industry.tho i respect ur opinion its just i thought(still think ) was the strategy to gain peoples attention and it did. Just don't think im bv hater or anything im fond of their songs eps badittude.
Badvillian put together my two favorite female group. Or should I say inspired or influence. BPM/Hybe's created their version of XG with a little BabyMons7er. But, since XG is all Japanese group members. K-Netizen rejected them as a whole even tho they were create by a Korea company. They know as a global group according to K-Netizens just like BabyMons7ers. Even tho XG are better dancers, rappers, singer and similar concept and vibe as XG with a little BabyMons7er. Hybe's/BPM attempt to copy XG and YG's BabyMons7ers vibe. Real Hip-Hop and R&B has always been YG's sounded.
First, you seem to be in the minority of Kpop fans who stan more than one group, which is a good thing. I, too, am in that minority. As far as Badvillian copying Babymonster, I agree 100% with you. All newer groups are always going to be compared to their predecessors or other senior groups be it their style, sound, genre or any other silly reasons fans can come up with. The only thing I disagree with you on is that Babymonster sounds like Blaclpink. Blackpink is the reason I follow Kpop and I'm a huge fan of their music. However, I feel Babymonster gets a bad rap because Blackpink's sound is actually YG's formula...opening, 1st verse, pre- chorus, chorus, 2nd verse which is a rap, 2nd pre-chorus, 2nd chorus, bridge, and final chorus. This is the only similarity between Blackpink and Babymonster, IMO. Other than that, you presented an intelligent, articulate argument dispelling the statements that Badvillan copied Babymonster, or anyone. If I could be granted one wish it would be that fans just enjoy all the music and give praise to groups they like without saying negative things about other groups. Fans need to realize that all these groups work their butts off to give of us music through their talent and negative comments are unnecessary. BTW, I like Badvillan's songs as well.
It is not hate to BM. I hate YG for recycling one concept and one sound since 2NE1. I hate whta they did to BM they really have shown themselves not to care about artistic integrity and are selling 2NE1, BP and BM like computer updates meanwhile Alphaz who say BV is copying XG, I just don't talk and judge you in silence
@@I_hv_no_brains... Hate is a strong word that should never be used when talking about music industry.. I don't fully understand the business of the music industry, especially being new to the Kpop industry, but we, as fans, shouldn't get caught up in the business. Instead, we should enjoy and support the groups that we like and forget about what may or may not be happening with the other groups.
@@mtbwithtfb I'm into kpop for the music but I don't think that means I should be blind to the fact kpop is scarcely art but product. You see it on the difference between streams and views on youtube. It is the visuals, the outfits, the personalities, the additional content. I just find it stiffling how they don't give their artists any say on what they are.
You say you don't hate Bemon, but your words still speak in a way that I don't like. You know that, right? blackpink and babymonster. We're under the same label, YG. It's not strange at all that the songs or compositions are the same. Because the people who made the song and the MV are the same team. You can't compare. But if it's from different camps, this is strange. to be able to compare
@@วรากรดาหาญ comparing art is normal in every art form. and being under the same company is not an excuse. twice and skz sound completely different but they’re both under jyp. and just because i say their concept isn’t original does not mean i dislike them. please learn the difference between criticism and hate before commenting
It is not hate to BM. What you stated is complete hate to YG for recycling one concept and one sound since 2NE1. I hate whta they did to BM they really have shown themselves not to care about artistic integrity and are selling 2NE1, BP and BM like computer updates meanwhile Alphaz who say BV is copying XG, I just don't talk and judge you in silence.
A montiez for months now, but I've cleared my suspicions about them, the song wasn't my kind of vibe, but if they released something my kind of vibe, I'll support ૮𐙚꒰ ˶• ༝ •˶꒱𐙚ა ♡
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I've always been a fan of Babymonster, since pre-debut (Im a fan of most yg groups) so I was extremely excited when BV debuted and was confused when ppl were hating on them. Yeah they do give off the same vibe but there's obviously diffrences
The producer of Badvillain’s title track Badvillain has a history of using classical strings with hip hop beat. And badvillain’s theme is center around the villainous theme. The hand sign that people claim are similar goes all the way back to american rock and metal. So no Badvillain did not copy Babymonster.
inhye was my main pick on mtg and every single track was a massive eat (my fav is hurricane and +82). yall dont know the difference between copying and a concept for ONE song, also imo they both but their own vibe through it like bv has a more futuristic y3k kinda vibe where as sheesh has a princess kinda vibe. for once a rant video was actually enjoyable. keep up the great work!
Im excite about all 5th gen debuts...but i must wait until end 2025:D:D when 5th gen will START!!!!!
Badvillian didnt copy baemon. Baemon didnt copy bp.bp didnt copy 2ne1
TOTALLY AGREEED! your 340th subs btw! your voice is soooo soothing
the only similarities between bv and baemon is their photo concept lmao
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the thing is when bv dropped the individual introduction videos they had the same bg music like bm's batter up individual teaser and again the group photos of bv which again resemble with baemon group photos isn't it too similar to call it a coincidence when baemon had debuted not that long ago .and again the hand thing which is too similar with baemon. I belive it was a publicity stunt to gain People's attention to bv which is not bad thing but truth is they do copied or u can say took inspiration from baemon.
let's talk about this. one, that bg music is a sample... that yg doesn't own.
two, the group photos where they used a silhouette and a red background were used by people before baemon ... omg, right?
three, the hand sign is horns, which is get this.. from rock and roll and connected to villains, or free people who generally don't go by societal standards, which is badvillain's concept.
like op stated, all these things have been used before + or are really common, so you can't go claiming that it was a way to be baemon. the only thing ya'll have any sort of point in is the music sample... but even then, you dull your argument by claiming everything under the sun as a copy.. when it's not original enough to be yours alone. it also makes it seem like ya'll don't understand your group's concept well enough if you wanna say the two groups are so so similar.
Your argument does not work the moment you said 'baemon had debuted not that long ago', do you know how long it takes to plan a debut? BV's producer said it himself, their group name and logo was created in 2020, that's how long it takes
@@praktigal lets start with the with the bg music i very well know that yg doesn't own it but isn't it too similar or i would say exact same with the baemons one .and I've never said anything about the red bg thing but what about the grp photos ? And now u explain the hand sign thing i would leave it. I understand u are a bv stan so u are defending it but what about the all this similarities ?yes baemon is not original either but all this thing is related to baemon a group which has not debuted that long ago from bv which means all this thing is still fresh in peoples mind . i never claim about the concept being similar i think bv resembles xg more rather baemon. Im not a bv hater nor a stan .its just i think all that was a publicity stunt to gain attention to bv debut and it worked.
@Daziyy_Ava I said it was a sample. yes, it was the same sample. but like I said, they don't own it. anyone can use it. the group photos??? in denim (that every group has used)???? or are you talking something else? none of their concept photos for overstep looked anything like baemon's.
two, like mentioned before, all of this planning conceptually and otherwise, has been in the works for near 4 years. baemon too, has been in the works for a bit. sheesh wasn't even their official debut, so tell me why we should skirt around some of the common things they did? just because people (who clearly can't differentiate out of pettiness) connect all these things to baemon it doesn't mean bv is playing on "what's fresh in someone's mind."
I'd be saying the same thing even if I didn't stan. I just think it's stupid to claim common things for one group... and YG stans are notoriously stupid like that ❤ You think I should take serious a fandom who wanted to complain about ONE overlapping shirt (not even the same outfit, just a shirt) in promotion to the point they were popping veins?
@@praktigallol im too late .anyways first off sheesh is their official debut baemon members themselves decided it. And second off i think this arugemnt is going nowhere since u seems to stand on ur opinion and i to mine at the end we are just the fans who don't knw whats going on, inside the industry.tho i respect ur opinion its just i thought(still think ) was the strategy to gain peoples attention and it did. Just don't think im bv hater or anything im fond of their songs eps badittude.
Badvillian put together my two favorite female group. Or should I say inspired or influence. BPM/Hybe's created their version of XG with a little BabyMons7er. But, since XG is all Japanese group members. K-Netizen rejected them as a whole even tho they were create by a Korea company. They know as a global group according to K-Netizens just like BabyMons7ers. Even tho XG are better dancers, rappers, singer and similar concept and vibe as XG with a little BabyMons7er. Hybe's/BPM attempt to copy XG and YG's BabyMons7ers vibe. Real Hip-Hop and R&B has always been YG's sounded.
BPM isn't connected to Hybe 🤨
@@praktigal Your right, thanks I made the mistake BHM = Big Hit Music for BPM Big Planet Made Ent.
XG will have global success while the others will mainly be big in their region.. k-netizens are such haters lol😅
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First, you seem to be in the minority of Kpop fans who stan more than one group, which is a good thing. I, too, am in that minority. As far as Badvillian copying Babymonster, I agree 100% with you. All newer groups are always going to be compared to their predecessors or other senior groups be it their style, sound, genre or any other silly reasons fans can come up with. The only thing I disagree with you on is that Babymonster sounds like Blaclpink. Blackpink is the reason I follow Kpop and I'm a huge fan of their music. However, I feel Babymonster gets a bad rap because Blackpink's sound is actually YG's formula...opening, 1st verse, pre- chorus, chorus, 2nd verse which is a rap, 2nd pre-chorus, 2nd chorus, bridge, and final chorus. This is the only similarity between Blackpink and Babymonster, IMO. Other than that, you presented an intelligent, articulate argument dispelling the statements that Badvillan copied Babymonster, or anyone. If I could be granted one wish it would be that fans just enjoy all the music and give praise to groups they like without saying negative things about other groups. Fans need to realize that all these groups work their butts off to give of us music through their talent and negative comments are unnecessary. BTW, I like Badvillan's songs as well.
It is not hate to BM. I hate YG for recycling one concept and one sound since 2NE1. I hate whta they did to BM they really have shown themselves not to care about artistic integrity and are selling 2NE1, BP and BM like computer updates meanwhile Alphaz who say BV is copying XG, I just don't talk and judge you in silence
@@I_hv_no_brains... Hate is a strong word that should never be used when talking about music industry.. I don't fully understand the business of the music industry, especially being new to the Kpop industry, but we, as fans, shouldn't get caught up in the business. Instead, we should enjoy and support the groups that we like and forget about what may or may not be happening with the other groups.
@@mtbwithtfb I'm into kpop for the music but I don't think that means I should be blind to the fact kpop is scarcely art but product. You see it on the difference between streams and views on youtube. It is the visuals, the outfits, the personalities, the additional content. I just find it stiffling how they don't give their artists any say on what they are.
first of all, Badvillain who? Where are they now in KPOP Industry? are they already disbanded?
nope. just debuted, and they're doing just fine 😊 but you know that I'm sure.
@@praktigal oh yeah
You say you don't hate Bemon, but your words still speak in a way that I don't like. You know that, right? blackpink and babymonster. We're under the same label, YG. It's not strange at all that the songs or compositions are the same. Because the people who made the song and the MV are the same team. You can't compare. But if it's from different camps, this is strange. to be able to compare
@@วรากรดาหาญ comparing art is normal in every art form. and being under the same company is not an excuse. twice and skz sound completely different but they’re both under jyp. and just because i say their concept isn’t original does not mean i dislike them. please learn the difference between criticism and hate before commenting
@@noelswonderland you go girl tell them. BadVillain Rocks 🤘🏽🤘🏽 BV is Hip hop. Not vocal pop.
It is not hate to BM. What you stated is complete hate to YG for recycling one concept and one sound since 2NE1. I hate whta they did to BM they really have shown themselves not to care about artistic integrity and are selling 2NE1, BP and BM like computer updates meanwhile Alphaz who say BV is copying XG, I just don't talk and judge you in silence.
A montiez for months now, but I've cleared my suspicions about them, the song wasn't my kind of vibe, but if they released something my kind of vibe, I'll support ૮𐙚꒰ ˶• ༝ •˶꒱𐙚ა ♡