I don’t see how anyone can watch Drake Maye and not see something resembling Mahomes/Allen/Favre. No shit he’s a risk, every QB in every draft is a risk. What is the obsession with sucky terrible game manager QBs?
@@EricM93I feel the exact opposite. Maye is a significantly more talented passer but Daniels is a more finished product. Washington may just prefer the more sure thing
@@jamabamawhat makes Maye a significantly better passer? The highlight films? I like Maye but I don't see where you could have seen that he's a better passer, even the highlights don't show that
@@Knyghtrida Because unlike McCarthy whose coaches was too scared to let him throw, Maye can carry a team with his arm. More velocity which means less Mac Jones-type interceptions and less clenching your butthole when he throws to the sidelines or into tight coverage. McCarthy is not as talented a passer, period.
JJ slightly above average talently and physically. Grab Maye extremely high ceiling and a howitzer for a arm. Don't let any one con you that McCarthy has a better arm. There is agenda for some reason regarding him. Majority of scouts had him early 2nd round to mid late 1st grade. Last 2 weeks flew up out of know where.
Maye is worth No.3 pick. I don't like the lack of explosiveness in Coleman. Rather they trade up for OT such as Mims or Guyton. Draft WR in round 3 &4.
JJ has a good pro day and all of a sudden after being passed by all the draft experts he vaults up to second or third best QB in the draft ? Holy hell don’t Michigan people just love to pump up average Michigan players and this guy is a bum. He’s Mac jones all over again but with blonde highlights. Pick maye and run with it.
I swear if I hear about Mock Draft 12.3 one more time I'm going to open a vein. That being said I liked Keon Coleman when I first saw him last year, but then not as much. He seemed to disappear too often in some of the later games. I know Florida State had serious Quarterback problems late in the year, which could have been a part of it. What we don't need is another underachieving WR on the team, who doesn't compete when things get tough...
Phil, WR Keon Coleman is a terrible 2/34 pick for the Patriots. I like WR's Xavier Legette & Troy Franklin for the Patriots at 2/34. But my 2/34 pick would be OT Kingsley Suamataia.
I'm no expert or evaluator but 34 seems rich for Franklin to me if we trade down 40-50 to get some picks then I'd take Franklin in that range. Dude is tiny just like Worthy.
@@frantheman1287 Separation is important! YAC is important. DeVante Parker was 6'3" 210 and had the worse separation rate in the NFL for 2 straight years. He has size. Troy Franklin is 6'2" 4.41(40) explosion. And he isn't my first choice at 2/34. OT Kingsley Suamataia is my first 2/34 pick. Then WR Xavier Legette.
McCarthy won at every level he has played. The problem for me is that he has always been surrounded by elite talent. We have not seen him have to carry a team, not once we haven’t seen him have to bring his team back from a 2 Td deficit in the fourth quarter or have to throw the football 35 times in a game. I’m not saying he can’t do it, but we have not seen it. I’m not using a top ten pick on that big of an unknown
Maye is a no brainer! Then they can build a great o line and receivers and tight ends around him. Personally, I want to see us spend some damn money for once and get real talent and we only need 1-2 players on defense as that part has saved our ass for many seasons. Also need a real picker and punter.
As I recall, Brady and Pats seldom lit it up in the 1st qtr. Settling into how D will play you can be ok, as long as you can finish strong, and be able to put games away in 4th qtr.
Phill is doing every thing he can to make the argument for Drake Maye and we all respect Mel. Before the draft, Phill should have Merrill Hodge on his podcast. Merrill takes a completely different view of Drake Maye. Like Mel, Merrill has no skin in the game and like Mel Hodge is well respected. Check out Hodge's comments on Drake Maye on the HERD.
Mr Hodge is in the extreme minority of opinion regarding Drake Maye. Mr Hodge is one of the few outlyers regarding Drake. I put my stock in the majority of NFL appraisals and analysis.
Why does every photo, including your teaser, show Maye throwing without the laces. BTW, I see 2 clips of McCarthy throwing touchdown passes. Both should have been intercepted with even barely competent DB play. That is all.
Anybody remember the report that said Elliot wolf loved jj McCarthy? Wouldn’t be surprised if they traded back and drafted him. Trade with Vikings, get the 11th and 23rd, and future picks, u get the picks to start building, and you the qb your gm loves. Use the other pick to get one of those stud receivers in the early 20s.
McCarthy too small, slightly above average arm and physical skills and talent. Final season at Michigan, playing weight 203 pounds, height 6 feet, 2 inches. My humble opinion will not last full seasons of play.
Because he could be just like John Ross. How'd his career turn out? Out of all the players(11) who ran in the 4.2's 40 (regardless of position) Chris Johnson is the only one who had a successful career.
If mayo has balls he will take a QB at 3 and trade back into the top 15 and pair the qb with a blue chip WR. It’s not greedy, it’s speeding up the rebuild and giving your new young QB a chance! Look at the Texans!
Patriots will wreck the development of a young QB. Win loss line is at 4.5. Going to be another Jets situation. Smartest thing to do would get 3 first from Vikings. Build a team with good OTs and a weapon or two so you’re not throwing your young QB into a fire
Ahh yes the legendary Mel Kiper. Aka the guy who does multiple mock drafts and yet still doesn’t come close to the real thing like 5 picks in. Why people listen to him I have no idea.
You've gotta hand it to these guys tho, from kiper on down they're almost ALWAYS wrong yet still have jobs! Do the Krafts hand Tom Curran a script or do they just trust him to carry the water correctly?!
@@BugsyXs18 weatherman aren’t doing 4 mock videos on what tomorrows weather is going to be and then getting it wrong anyways. They’re also not paid 6 figures to be wrong with their make believe content.
Puck the 40 time. I Love Keon Coleman, He ran the best and I believe the fastest gauntlet drill at the c0mbine. A Keon Coleman comp ? how about Anquan Boldin. Sorry, not a big Leggett fan. And Brian Thomas will be gone by draft pik #20. The Pats should consider trading up for A.Mitchell.. I would cut Ty Thorton asap. He's BB's trash,
JJ is 27 - 1 in his college career with a National Championship working in a pro style offense. He's a winner. A champion. A great teammate. He's got that "Dog" in him. He is ok not throwing 30-35 passes a game. He is also ok having to throw 30-35 yards a game. My only concern with the Patriots is having to develop a QB and the lack of weapons. Football player wise, JJ is the better QB over Drake.
Honestly I don’t think NE likes Drake Maye. He underthrows his receivers all the time and he doesn’t seem confident and doesn’t have that killer instinct in order to be great. JJ has that but the media doesn’t know how to calculate that. Had he been on another team that was a pass focused offense people wouldn’t even be questioning him.
YOU NEVER KNOW MAYBE WASHINGTON DRAFT DRAKE MAYE. THEN WE GET JAYDEN. CAN YOU IMAGINE BEARS DRAFT JAYDEN AND WASHINGTON DRAKE. SO WE GET CALEB WILLIAMS.
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Draft Drake Maye and do it.
Drake Maye was speared by a 305 LB NT from Minnesota. Next play he scrambled for a 1st down. Next play 40 yard TD
I want him. The kid I think will be special
@@jeremykeyes2018he will be special. Thought I was the only pats fan who wanted Drake Maye over JD. His upside is HIGH
@@slumped-_- nope I’m very happy. JD is awesome too but I think if Drake develops he can be one of the best in the league cause he’s got all the tools
If they draft McCarthy it’s Mac 2.0 everyone fired in 3 years. The pick is Maye no question
I don't get the love for McCarthy. I watched some of his games and he looked like a 3rd rounder at best.
The comparison is as3nine. JJ is probably the 2nd best qb prospect this class. Just watch the tape
@@obarbeito if he’s so good why did his coach not let him throw
Agreed
Uncle Rico?
I would have no problem if the Pats picked McCarthy in the 2nd or 3rd round, but what a mistake it would be to pick him at #3 overall.
I don’t see how anyone can watch Drake Maye and not see something resembling Mahomes/Allen/Favre. No shit he’s a risk, every QB in every draft is a risk. What is the obsession with sucky terrible game manager QBs?
Agreed. Every QB is a risk. Watching Maye’s highlights he’s special and it’ll be a mistake passing on him
The tension between Tom vs Phil on JJ vs Maye is palpable.
@@EricM93Daniels will play average 11 games a year. Won't last in my humble opinion.
@@EricM93I feel the exact opposite. Maye is a significantly more talented passer but Daniels is a more finished product. Washington may just prefer the more sure thing
@@jamabamawhat makes Maye a significantly better passer? The highlight films? I like Maye but I don't see where you could have seen that he's a better passer, even the highlights don't show that
@@Knyghtrida Because unlike McCarthy whose coaches was too scared to let him throw, Maye can carry a team with his arm. More velocity which means less Mac Jones-type interceptions and less clenching your butthole when he throws to the sidelines or into tight coverage. McCarthy is not as talented a passer, period.
JJ slightly above average talently and physically. Grab Maye extremely high ceiling and a howitzer for a arm. Don't let any one con you that McCarthy has a better arm. There is agenda for some reason regarding him. Majority of scouts had him early 2nd round to mid late 1st grade. Last 2 weeks flew up out of know where.
Maye is worth No.3 pick. I don't like the lack of explosiveness in Coleman. Rather they trade up for OT such as Mims or Guyton. Draft WR in round 3 &4.
JJ has a good pro day and all of a sudden after being passed by all the draft experts he vaults up to second or third best QB in the draft ? Holy hell don’t Michigan people just love to pump up average Michigan players and this guy is a bum. He’s Mac jones all over again but with blonde highlights.
Pick maye and run with it.
I’m a Michigan fan. I want Maye
Why not trade to Minn and get
Odunze, Penix Jr and Ladd with your first 3 picks AND have 2 1st next year
Odunze won’t be there at 11 he’s too good. You better take Penix at 11 because he is not getting past 13
Penix Jr is the best QB in the draft
Because that is smart & patriots new HC will want his own guy just to wreck his development and get fired
I swear if I hear about Mock Draft 12.3 one more time I'm going to open a vein. That being said I liked Keon Coleman when I first saw him last year, but then not as much. He seemed to disappear too often in some of the later games. I know Florida State had serious Quarterback problems late in the year, which could have been a part of it. What we don't need is another underachieving WR on the team, who doesn't compete when things get tough...
I’m with you, mock drafts are so useless. Are they fun? Meh not really!
Phil, WR Keon Coleman is a terrible 2/34 pick for the Patriots. I like WR's Xavier Legette & Troy Franklin for the Patriots at 2/34. But my 2/34 pick would be OT Kingsley Suamataia.
I'm no expert or evaluator but 34 seems rich for Franklin to me if we trade down 40-50 to get some picks then I'd take Franklin in that range. Dude is tiny just like Worthy.
@@frantheman1287 Separation is important! YAC is important. DeVante Parker was 6'3" 210 and had the worse separation rate in the NFL for 2 straight years. He has size. Troy Franklin is 6'2" 4.41(40) explosion. And he isn't my first choice at 2/34. OT Kingsley Suamataia is my first 2/34 pick. Then WR Xavier Legette.
@@flyingelvis8850 I didn't mean tiny as in height, he weighed in light like 180-185
@@frantheman1287 176 lbs
@flyingelvis8850 yeah even worse lol. Unless he can out on another 10-15lbs and it not effect his 4.4 speed I say pass unless sits the 3rd-4th round.
McCarthy won at every level he has played. The problem for me is that he has always been surrounded by elite talent. We have not seen him have to carry a team, not once we haven’t seen him have to bring his team back from a 2 Td deficit in the fourth quarter or have to throw the football 35 times in a game. I’m not saying he can’t do it, but we have not seen it. I’m not using a top ten pick on that big of an unknown
Watching Coleman for the first time, he reminds me of DeAndre Hopkins, and Hopkins ran a 4.57 40 time at the combine.
I've loved Mel Kiper for many decades. He does a great job with his mock drafts. But he has a Achilles heel and that's projecting qb's.
Maye is a no brainer! Then they can build a great o line and receivers and tight ends around him. Personally, I want to see us spend some damn money for once and get real talent and we only need 1-2 players on defense as that part has saved our ass for many seasons. Also need a real picker and punter.
Much prefer moving back into 1st for LT, vs WR. Get the QB and his Protector, then worry about WR, TE.
As I recall, Brady and Pats seldom lit it up in the 1st qtr. Settling into how D will play you can be ok, as long as you can finish strong, and be able to put games away in 4th qtr.
well, thank goodness we all know how to run a team
It's not rocket science !!!
Great stuff, Phil!
I’m out on Coleman! Too slow for my liking. He could be another Treylon Burks. 🤮👎
Colmaan is gonna suck. He’s another Parker clone and Nikhil Harry no thank you I’d rather get a wide receiver from Foxboro high school football team.
Well if we do get JJ we did have pretty good luck with a Michigan QB befire😂
19:00 you have to trade up if you’re New England if the board plays the way Mel predicts tbh.
Maye will be gone. Daniels is worth the pick at 3, though he'd be better for a warm climate or dome team. He'll be exciting to watch for sure.
Or he may end up being a bust, there are no guarantees
RG III, Pt II? A lot of potential, but injured and gone very soon?
Good take on the environment
Phill is doing every thing he can to make the argument for Drake Maye and we all respect Mel. Before the draft, Phill should have Merrill Hodge on his podcast. Merrill takes a completely different view of Drake Maye. Like Mel, Merrill has no skin in the game and like Mel Hodge is well respected. Check out Hodge's comments on Drake Maye on the HERD.
Mr Hodge is in the extreme minority of opinion regarding Drake Maye. Mr Hodge is one of the few outlyers regarding Drake. I put my stock in the majority of NFL appraisals and analysis.
Why does every photo, including your teaser, show Maye throwing without the laces. BTW, I see 2 clips of McCarthy throwing touchdown passes. Both should have been intercepted with even barely competent DB play. That is all.
We don’t want another N’Keal Harry situation again, please take Xavier Legettec this time
I would have kept Mac, used the # 3 pick on drafting a top receiver and left tackle! His first year wasn’t a fluke. Bill ruined him- But Bill is gone!
I think McCarthy being open about mental health is a huge Green flag.
A “home run swing” is when a risky move is made. They pick 3rd and will take whoever Washington leaves them. This video is poorly titled
Anybody remember the report that said Elliot wolf loved jj McCarthy? Wouldn’t be surprised if they traded back and drafted him. Trade with Vikings, get the 11th and 23rd, and future picks, u get the picks to start building, and you the qb your gm loves. Use the other pick to get one of those stud receivers in the early 20s.
McCarthy too small, slightly above average arm and physical skills and talent. Final season at Michigan, playing weight 203 pounds, height 6 feet, 2 inches. My humble opinion will not last full seasons of play.
Is there a reason we don't talk more about Xavier Worthy as an draft option? All I know is he's crazy fast
Because he could be just like John Ross. How'd his career turn out? Out of all the players(11) who ran in the 4.2's 40 (regardless of position) Chris Johnson is the only one who had a successful career.
You have to trade back into the 1st round no matter who we draft at QB and get legette worthy Thomas Mitchell one of them is what we need
lol
puka can get separation
more like N’keal Harry 2.0
It's a big risk u have to pick the right QB if u don't trade once we pick in the second round all the talent will be gone when we pick again
The Jim Cramer of the NFL draft
I don’t see the Chiefs going WR in round 1. I think they go either OT or CB.
Daniels looks a lot better than Maye
Hope the kid the best but his bust potential is too high. We see QBs drafted high bust all the time
I’m hearing Patriots are going Kingsley Suamataia at 34. It might be a little early, but I can understand this pick. LT is worse than WR on this team.
If mayo has balls he will take a QB at 3 and trade back into the top 15 and pair the qb with a blue chip WR. It’s not greedy, it’s speeding up the rebuild and giving your new young QB a chance! Look at the Texans!
Patriots will wreck the development of a young QB. Win loss line is at 4.5. Going to be another Jets situation. Smartest thing to do would get 3 first from Vikings. Build a team with good OTs and a weapon or two so you’re not throwing your young QB into a fire
I would take Jalen Polk over Coleman. I think he is being under rated. He has some of the best hands in the draft and he is an absolute dog
Ja’Lynn Polk I meant
Oh God if Mel likes him, we're fooked
Keon Coleman remind me of devante parker
Ahh yes the legendary Mel Kiper. Aka the guy who does multiple mock drafts and yet still doesn’t come close to the real thing like 5 picks in.
Why people listen to him I have no idea.
You've gotta hand it to these guys tho, from kiper on down they're almost ALWAYS wrong yet still have jobs! Do the Krafts hand Tom Curran a script or do they just trust him to carry the water correctly?!
People listen to weathermen, so Why not?
@@BugsyXs18 weatherman aren’t doing 4 mock videos on what tomorrows weather is going to be and then getting it wrong anyways. They’re also not paid 6 figures to be wrong with their make believe content.
What kills all these drafts are trades. Once a couple of changes happen, things spin wildly out of control.
Puck the 40 time. I Love Keon Coleman, He ran the best and I believe the fastest gauntlet drill at the c0mbine. A Keon Coleman comp ? how about Anquan Boldin. Sorry, not a big Leggett fan. And Brian Thomas will be gone by draft pik #20. The Pats should consider trading up for A.Mitchell.. I would cut Ty Thorton asap. He's BB's trash,
Harbaugh is laughing 😂😅 at everyone who believes the shit he said.
Penix, Maye, Daniels in that order...
Solve the receiver problem by drafting Marvin Harrison. Grab a QB later because TB 12 is going to return to NE now that Belichek is gone, lol
😂 Uh no he's not returning.
Ever notice mel kiper jr looks like jim harbugh?
Coleman is gonna be good
I wonder how much money Mel kiper was paid to say that. And by who. W that said draft Marvin Harrison. Bring Brady back week 10
The chances any of these 3 take a team to a superbowl is almost 0%. But with a track record like Mel Kiper...😅😅😅😅
Why do people like Curran and Felger love sucky QBs so much
I'm pretty sure that nobody from any NFL front office has ever asked for Kiper's opinion, ever.
NKeal Harry 2.0
If we pick him 100%. If any of the other 31 teams take him he'll be DK
JJ mcCarthy looks good. Coleman not so much.
JJ is 27 - 1 in his college career with a National Championship working in a pro style offense. He's a winner. A champion. A great teammate. He's got that "Dog" in him. He is ok not throwing 30-35 passes a game. He is also ok having to throw 30-35 yards a game. My only concern with the Patriots is having to develop a QB and the lack of weapons. Football player wise, JJ is the better QB over Drake.
He’s also the strike three awful swing and miss lol. Hes bad Phil
Bring Brady back for 2 year's and draft Maye, a scrambling quarterback that weighs 200 lbs in uniform will only get hurt
Brady was joking lol, he is coming back for the pats hall of fame
Even if he was serious this teams not built for Brady. He needs a line better than what we have to offer lol
Drake Maye will be gone. Washington isn't dumb. Maye is second in the draft for a reason. Daniels is coming to NE.
"Washington isn't dumb"
All signs indicate they are. They always have been... Plus, Drake Maye doesn't fit their QB profile...
Jayden or Drake at qb, we will be fine
Washington is dumb
While I tend to agree with you, front offices are extremely risk averse. Jayden Daniels is a pretty safe bet to be an effective qb.
I think Washington might be dumb my friend
Selling us a big ass dream hu?
Please stop with all this drake maye crap..... Phil Please find some new content all you and Tom talking bout is maye this, maye that
JJ is a grand slam..
very Neanderthal-ish! he played at MICHIGAN! pretty big stage...
Phil is gonna spend a day on his shower floor crying when the pats don’t take Maye 😂
We’re taking Drake maye if he’s available lol no question
@@455zzzget your tissues ready
If they draft that mental case they are a mental case
Honestly I don’t think NE likes Drake Maye. He underthrows his receivers all the time and he doesn’t seem confident and doesn’t have that killer instinct in order to be great. JJ has that but the media doesn’t know how to calculate that. Had he been on another team that was a pass focused offense people wouldn’t even be questioning him.
If Mel kiper says he’ll be good then we screwed if we draft maye.
If we learned anything over the last 2 decades its not to listen to Mel Kiper when it comes to QBs
Maye is going 2nd to Washington.
YOU NEVER KNOW MAYBE WASHINGTON DRAFT DRAKE MAYE. THEN WE GET JAYDEN. CAN YOU IMAGINE BEARS DRAFT JAYDEN AND WASHINGTON DRAKE. SO WE GET CALEB WILLIAMS.
Man I said the same thing lol I wouldn't be mad if that happened
Maye won’t be there at 3. Ray Charles could see that he is a lot better than Daniels.
You’d be surprised, go on some other comment boards besides your local ones
Th3 next level QB is JJ not Maye or Daniels
Zappe is the future. Fix the damn roster first. At least drafting a QB at 3 means top 3 in the draft again the next few seasons! Yayyyy
I need what ur Smokin pal!
If you think Zappe is the future you're nuts
🤣😂 Was he the future after that performance against Buffalo?😂🤦🏿
ok Zappe's cousin
penix is better than maye and jj by a country mile
Mel Kiper IS A HALF WIT!!!