Lance was supposedly Waldo Von Erich's son. But he was already an accomplished high school and college athlete in the Dallas area before becoming a wrestler, which is how the fans knew he wasn't actually a Von Erich.
In fairness to Fritz (or whoever made that decision), the fake relative thing was a fairly common thing for a while in pro wrestling. Fritz and Waldo Von Erich weren't related. None of the Anderson family are related, either. Hell, even Taker and Kane fall into that category. I can see why Fritz (or whoever) would think it might work as it'd worked before.
Hardcore, Crash, and Molly Holly were also entirely unrelated. Ken Shamrock and his "sister" Ryan Shamrock as well...Hell Ken and his real life brother aren't related either.
Meaning the lost that Network deal yeah. God that still annoys me. But then again if it hadnt happened, would we have had the growing Impact product weve got now with some of the stars they have Its a huge what if
@@WhiskeyBrewer They may be a lot farther along. Leaving Spike meant jumping from TV station to TV station that were small, killed a lot of their fan base off (other than Hogan and Bischoff killing most of it off). Dixie and Russo also pushed every wrestling agent and brought in utter idiots under the guide of Russo.
Rebranding Owen Hart as the Blue Blazer as a punishment gimmick as a result of Owen refusing to be involved in a Storyline where he would make out with Debra in 1999.
Okay here's the thing about okada he's actually gone on record saying that if it wasn't for TNA he wouldn't have never develop his Rainmaker gimmick which has made him the Megastar he is today
It also had nothing to do with New Japan ending their agreement with TNA like so many people try to say. The TNA New Japan working agreement ended because TNA booked British Ambition to beat Team 3D for the IWGP tag titles without discussing it with New Japan management. New Japan was pissed that TNA booked a title change for one of their championships and ended the relationship shortly after.
@@rickjames2.0 TNA used to have a six-sided ring, which was great for triple threat matches. Hulk and Bischoff got rid of that. In fact, they got rid of everything that made TNA different from WWE. Hulk/Bischoff wanted to resurrect the NWO, but that was now the property of WWE, so they called NWO 2.0 "Immortal", which was anything but. Oddly, it was a tattoo on Hulk's arm which caused me to walk away from it. Let's hope AEW doesn't make the same mistake.........
In hindsight yes but it's the same with Jericho stone cold mick Foley all leaving wcw they weren't the characters they were when they finally got over nobody could have seen it at the time cause everyone always forgets how crap hogan really is in the ring and if it wasn't for steroids he'd be an absolute nobody
@@samuelrussell7003 Hogan was a larger than life personality. No one gives a shit about work rate except neckbeard smarks, who are a minority of the wrestling audience
Honorable Mentions: *Budget Cuts *The Montreal Screwjob *21-1, WrestleMania 30 *Royal Rumble 2014 and 2015 for Daniel Bryan *Dixie Carter ruined Impact *The Fiend's lost to Goldberg *Hell in a Cell 2019 *Making Roman Reigns as the 30 and Final entrant, Royal Rumble 2017 *Hulk Hogan vs Sid as the main event of WrestleMania VIII not Savage vs Flair *The Fingerpoke of Doom *The Burial of Chris Jericho
Kirk Exequiel Badillo The Shield (especially Seth Rollins), Big E and Xavier Woods, Kevin Owens (former/second Universal Champion, multi-time US and IC Champion), Asuka and Kairi Sane (current women's tag team champions), Alexa Bliss and Nikki Cross, The 4 Horsewomen, etc.
Other then the rare star who happens to stick, you're 100% correct. Balor, Samoa Joe, Bobby Roode (correct spelling?), The Ascension.....the list goes on and on with guys whose momentum and career were completely destroyed by the call up
"A guy who had no business in a wrestling ring.... And David Arquette." When David Arquette deserves a world title more than you there's something wrong there lol.
Stone cold hugging Vince McMahon, Eric Bischoff debuting and hugging Vince instead of feuding with him, Goldberg’s heel turn, Goldberg’s and undertakers streak ending, and pretty much the majority of the nxt call ups
I remember Hogan in TNA giving some promo in the ring with Dixie and others, and he was clearly repeatedly pressing the button on a TENS unit he had attached to his back the whole time. In retrospect, I find the whole invasion of TNA by Hogan and Eric as extremely interesting, being able to watch in real time as a few people brought down a company over the months.
The loss of randy savage was even more damaging when you factor in the loss of the 'slim jim' account that randy took to wcw. Vince really needed that easy & safe million a year, especially when easy E started playing every dirty tactic he could think of. Dig karma.
Making Owen Hart do that stunt at Over the Edge knowing full well that the sail boat clip they insisted he use was NOT designed for being used in that situation.
@@chrisbuttonshaw2088 NXT is still their third brand vs. AEW's flagship show. Back in the 90's, this would be like WCW Pro vs. Monday Night Raw lol or vice versa Shotgun Saturday vs. Nitro don't get too excited yet.
Rvd, Booker weren't ready to carry the company and Goldberg was never going to be around long enough the reign of terror also gave us evolution which produces two future stars in Orton and Batista
@@simoneddy1174 rvd was over in September 2002, booker t was over when he unexpectedly eliminated the rock in a raw battle royal match to become a number 1 contender, even the rock putted booker t over. At wrestlemania, booker t was dominating the match against triple h. At the end of the match, triple h pinned booker t in a 23 second mark after he gave booker t the pedigree, making it the worst finish. Summerslam 2003, main event, Goldberg was over as hell, eliminating randy orton, shawn michaels and Chris jericho by spearing him to the elimination chamber pod. After he eliminated those 3, he targeted triple h in the elimination chamber pod, but ric flair locked it. However, Goldberg punched the chamber pod glass to beat triple h mercessly. While he was gonna prepare to finish triple h off, ric flair gave triple h the sledgehammer to attack Goldberg when he runs to perform a spear on him. Triple h defeats Goldberg without putting much effort, and everyone was pissed.
Simon Eddy Booker T was a great champion in WCW .... Goldberg was strong and the only reason they went with Randy Orton was because of his damn father . Batista just became another “ Next big thing joke “ and they turned RVD also into a joke. Like CM Punk said Triple H was gonna always call the shots ... it wasn’t smart then and it’s not smart now ... They could’ve pushed more talent but instead they pushed the wrong guy ... All The time
Okada's treatment in TNA wasn't great but Okada has credited his time in TNA as helping him learn about character work and come up with the Rainmaker persona. Also New Japan ended their relationship with TNA becuse TNA booked British Ambition to win the IWGP heavyweight tag titles from Team 3D without asking New Japan. It didn't have anything to do with Okada's booking.
For me: Triple H burying Booker T, Stephanie McMahon being kayfabe owner of ECW, Vince not buying out the contracts for top ECW guys like NWO, Sting, Goldberg etc. Also, Rikishi's heel turn was the most lame thing ever. At least Austin's heel turn had some good moments here and there. Rikishi's was completely nonsensical.
WWE not putting Ryback over as WWE Champion. Not putting Shinsuke Nakamura over as WWE champion at Wrestlemania after he had won the Royal Rumble. WWE ending Asuka's undefeated Streak at Wrestlemania before she got to be Women's champion
Yeah, I bet they aren't too happy about that lol. Whoever agreed to that deal, has to be kick themselves over that. What began as a celebration of independent wrestling actually turned into birthplace of another "major" promotion and "legitimate" rival to the WWE. Poor RoH, I really feel for them. It's like no matter how hard they try and all the accomplishments and progress they make, they can never win and are always stuck being the underdog promotion.
Damn! I'm just hearing this for the first time. That's fucked up how ROH pretty much fucked itself like that. I guess that's one of the reasons why I don't see ROH in syndication where I live anymore.
Compared to giving the Great Khali the World title in 2007, there is no contest. At least Jinder can work a good match while Khali just struggles to even walk.
But now that he has MMA training, if he were to have a rematch with Teddy Hart in a truck stop parking lot, then... Teddy would win in three minutes instead of 20 seconds.😂
@@Cappuccino1250 Good for him, but sadly he sucked at doing "what he wanted". Slave? LOL how pathetic, that means everybody who works under a contract is a slave, grow up, there is no slave who earns millions of dollars for his work. He wasn't a slave, just someone who whined because of first world problems. Thank God he isn't a slave now, he is now irrelevant.
I think a worse decision by Verne was to book himself into the Tag Team and World titles at the end of his career, and then not lose either one in the ring. For a guy who was supposed to be the embodiment of old school wrestling it showed he was far more interested in stroking his own ego at the expense of a believable product or making any of the other talent look good.
So you're expecting Mustafa Ali, Velveteen Dream and Dexter Lumis to live up to Edge, Goldberg, Undertaker, Kurt Angle, Cena, and Orton in terms of drawing power?!
@@SpiralPoliFemboy those are the 3 leading acts they have? Last time I checked, Roman Reigns, Drew McIntyre, and Bobby Lashley are not on “Legends” contracts
Here's one I thought for sure would be on the list: WCW having Goldberg vs Hogan on Nitro instead of a PVP. They would have made bank with that, even if the rest of the card was garbage. Instead, they got one single week of crazy high ratings for Nitro and then they got pretty much nothing else from it.
They sold out a 60,000 seat arena they otherwise certainly wouldn’t have as a result of promoting that match. Wcw doesn’t sell 1/3 of the tickets in the Georgia done wo that match. They did what they *felt* they had to do. Bottom line is Goldberg was the only star left in that company and that show was the only place to have him win the belt and have it be that big a moment.
Wow, rocky III was nothing compared to Rocky IV. Story, vilian, music, its all there. Rocky III had its moments but no, IV over III. I will fight about it. Haha.
@@superlex611 look at the promos prior the match. but in short : Hart : jogging like an old man in the snow, Stu dominating his son with submission, and contemplenting the snowy canadian landscape. Micheals : training like crazy and looking like he was in a better shape than Bret.
The biggest issue with the Hogan/Bischoff era of TNA was how much money they wasted -- on over-the-hill talent yes, but also on taking the show on the road. HUGE waste of money for a company that wasn't ready to do so.
Like it or not, this is false. The ratings of WWE during the PG era, 2008 to 2013, declined by 0.26 points. This is insignificant compared to the 6 years since: 1.1, and the 2.61 in the 8 previous years. Yes, the “Ruthless Aggression” era lost WWE 10X the viewership that the PG era did.
Seekarr Nope. The PG era made lots of long time hardcore wrestling fans turn off from wrestling still. The Attitude era had huge ratings in the 5’s and 6’s but when the Monday Night Wars ended in 2001, the wrestling industry was never the same again without another wrestling promotion competing with WWE. Impact tried to compete with WWE in 2010 and failed miserably, ROH never had a major tv deal, AEW is new and still has lot to prove before competing with WWE.
The Okada thing was genius, he wasnt a star AT ALL when he went there. When he left, American wrestling fans realized he was being treated like crap and felt bad for him always losing, kinda like has happened with so many wrestlers before him,,, and after.... and since hes become the best in the world. Him going to TNA and being buried only made us want to see him that much more when we realized how great he was.
Slight correction: Lance Von Erich was touted as a Cousin to the Von Erich family. Fritz tried to pawn him off as the son of his K-Fab brother Waldo. Problem is that the fans already knew that Waldo was not his real life brother, but that The guy who played him was dead.
Surprised you said All in. You’re not wrong though. ROH planted the seeds for its own demise. A demise that we are witnessing at this very moment. ROH might have well died when the Elite left and putting the ROH belt on Taven was the final nail in the coffin
10. The AWA was a workrate company, in a work rate territory, and Hulk Hogan couldn't work (his time in Japan showed folks that he wasn't entirely inept, but even then you're talking about 15-minute go's). Gagne going with Hogan would've meant going away from his vision of wrestling. Vince McMahon was glitz and spectacle above everything, and Hogan was basically all spectacle so the pairing worked, and went on to do what it did. AWA tries to go all in on Hogan, and they likely kill their territory and business
Gagne didn't pin the title on Hogan because Hogan was always in danger of leaving full-time for Japan. For Hogan, the AWA was a side gig. And Hogan would have left for the WW(W)F whether or not he had won the title or not.
How about ending The Undertaker's WrestleMania streak? Or ending Goldberg's winning streak the way they did? If you really look at it that's when WCW really started to die. After Goldberg took that loss to Kevin Nash
Here are some additional candidates: WCW fires Ric Flair: One thing you didn't mention in your critique of Jim Herd is how they fired Ric Flair just 10 days before the GAB PPV where he was supposed to pass the torch to Lex Luger. That decision contributed to what was arguably the worst mainstream PPV of all time. It also gave McMahon the opportunity to hire and push Flair, as well as the Gold Belt that Flair took with him in a dispute over money. Eric Bischoff suspends Ric Flair in 1998: Proving Bischoff didn't learn from Herd's experience, he got into a p!ssing contest with Flair over Flair taking time off, and thus suspended Flair, which angered the WCW fanbase. Granted, Flair came back to great fan support, which they pretty much ruined. The WCW burial of Jericho: WCW had something pretty special emerging in the summer of 1998 with Jericho getting some of the biggest reactions on the show. Arguably the only talent getting a consistently better reaction was Goldberg. Thus it made sense to pair them together, which they seemed to be doing, as Jericho frequently taunted Goldberg on TV and even PPV. But the feud was then stopped with the only blowoff being a Goldberg spear to Jericho in the aisle. That decision made the glass ceiling of WCW visible to everyone, and pretty much guaranteed Jericho would leave once his contract was up. In fact along with Big Show, Jericho was among the first major WCW to WWF defection of the Monday Night Wars, paving the way for the Radicalz to do the same in early 2000. ECW Champion Justin Credible: When Mike Awesome defected while still being ECW champion, the short--term response of Taz coming back to win the title was brilliant. However, less that two weeks later, Credible wound end up with the title, and Francine, having challenged Tommy Dreamer immediately upon Dreamer winning the title. THe moment was shocking, but did nothing for the company in the long run, as by the time Credible dropped the title, ECW was about to lose its national program on TNN, and they would be months away from the company folding entirely. Could someone more popular with the fans like Raven, Sandman or RVD have saved the company? Unlikely, but Credible as champ for four months certainly ensured they would have no chance for survival.
This is one of the best what culture videos I have ever seen - they really did their research well to find a bunch of interesting stories I had never seen before
Joey Cage. No they didn’t, they (like always) got a bunch of facts wrong. For example, Lance Von Erich wasn’t portrayed as another Von Erich brother, he was introduced as their cousin. WhatCulture REALLY needs to do better research.
@@Musiclover19 yeah but nobody knows who these people are anymore so the facts are always going to be a bit shady, as with any wrestling history, I was just pleased they didn't just take everything from the attitude era like normal
@@TyrannosaurusCHEX Nobody knows who these people are anymore? You must be quite young. The facts aren't sketchy, they are there, it's just that WhatCulture is poor at doing research. The narrator can't even say "Misawa" properly, which leads me to believe he's never watched a Misawa match.
Here's your real #1: Undertaker Loses The Streak Undertaker had a 21-0 record spanning 24 years when he stepped into the ring against Brock Lesnar, and most believed he'd end up being 22-0 before the end of the night. Instead, an already super over Lesnar fractured his skull and concussed him during the course of the match, pinning Undertaker. It is a testament to UT he walked out(!!!) under his own power to collapse in the back. The shock and pure disappointment resulted in an estimated 25,000 people walking out, one of them being Shawn Michaels, during the Divas match that never had a chance. Oh, and the epilogue? Lesnar vanished for four months from TV after the win. Gotta put that part-timer over and keep him fresh! Everybody lost, and a guaranteed draw come WrestleMania time died just because Vince thought it would be a good idea. BONUS: Vince also jobbed Charlotte Flair in 90 seconds later that year to Natalya on RAW, and why? Because he figured nobody would remember. Luckily, he was right.
@@raviolihands5347 He also wanted kurt angle to do it, he wanted someone new to break the streak, his logic being it would secure their career. I mean he'd be right.
It was not Verne Gagne's fault at all. Hulk had a real-life issues with Gagne's son Greg Gagne which stemmed from their early days in amateur wrestling. When Verne brought Hulk to AWA, Greg openly refused to be second to Hulk and Verne just had to chose. He chose his son, of course.
I would put the AJPW's situation with Baba's wife at #1, because even though All Elite Wrestling became a thing, ROH can still go. AJPW never recovered from the NOAH exodus.
No, it's hindsight. At the time, it wasn't a bad decision. Motoko Baba was the business mind behind All Japan for many years. Misawa was a worker. Who was to know that Misawa would take just about everybody with him to form his own company? Look at Japanese wrestling now, pretty much every company pushes the same thing. All Japan was vastly different from New Japan. The company was a strong draw right up until Giant Baba's demise. Giant Baba knew that he was on a winner, yet Misawa (for whatever reason) wanted a change in direction after Baba's passing. Remember, it's a dumb decision only if it seems dumb at the time. A regrettable decision, maybe, yet not a stupid one. It's not fair to judge these things with the benefit of hindsight.
@@markv1274 3 years later...and now TK owns ROH. Honestly, though. The biggest mistake ROH has done was relying too much on the Bullet Club instead of building their own stars. When the Elite formed AEW, their audience left ROH high and dry. So that qualifies as a stupid decision. I agree with what you said about the difference between regrettable and stupid. Even though Misawa sensed a shift in mentality from the Japanese fans, All Japan was still doing well. But the exodus was too much for All Japan.
I can't believe I have to remember this. But WCW deciding that Nazi-themed Heel should be called "The Final Solution" any one whose thoroughly studied history particularly WW2 will tell you a what moronic decision that was.
Awesome going back in time to the Baba/Misawa debacle, basically killed what might be the greatest promotion of all time (all Japan at the time was really next level)
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Props for going back in time to reference the Lance Von Erich debacle in Dallas, but they only portrayed him as a “cousin,” not an actual brother.
just like tv shows. still stupid as f
Lance was supposedly Waldo Von Erich's son. But he was already an accomplished high school and college athlete in the Dallas area before becoming a wrestler, which is how the fans knew he wasn't actually a Von Erich.
In fairness to Fritz (or whoever made that decision), the fake relative thing was a fairly common thing for a while in pro wrestling. Fritz and Waldo Von Erich weren't related. None of the Anderson family are related, either. Hell, even Taker and Kane fall into that category. I can see why Fritz (or whoever) would think it might work as it'd worked before.
Hardcore, Crash, and Molly Holly were also entirely unrelated. Ken Shamrock and his "sister" Ryan Shamrock as well...Hell Ken and his real life brother aren't related either.
@@astrosteve E&C
ECW letting Mass Transit in the ring
Some people want to claim hardcore till someone hardcore gets in the ring..
Dixie Carter rehiring Russo on the quiet, despite the orders from the Network they were on at the time.
Meaning the lost that Network deal yeah. God that still annoys me. But then again if it hadnt happened, would we have had the growing Impact product weve got now with some of the stars they have
Its a huge what if
I like Russo and agree with this. Even if you like Russo you can not can not hire someone if a huge network says no
@@WhiskeyBrewer They may be a lot farther along. Leaving Spike meant jumping from TV station to TV station that were small, killed a lot of their fan base off (other than Hogan and Bischoff killing most of it off). Dixie and Russo also pushed every wrestling agent and brought in utter idiots under the guide of Russo.
amazed this wasnt on the list. was the biggest reason why the network killed their slot too.
Dixie Carter was a dumb idea.
#1 Mysterio loses wwe title in the same night to Cena.
This is one I totally agree with. Rey finally becomes champ only to have his moment stolen. Like Cena needed another title reign.
very much fax
Rey honestly deserved a long reign
@@aidanthomas2510 Nope, he's had no business being world champ.
@@aidanthomas2510 not too long
Rebranding Owen Hart as the Blue Blazer as a punishment gimmick as a result of Owen refusing to be involved in a Storyline where he would make out with Debra in 1999.
Yeah. In hindsight, that was a really dumb decision
As much as a Legend as he is, I think we can all agree that Antonio Inoki was more than an eccentric fella. The old man is just batshit insane.
Hogan hasn't aged in 40 years.
The problem is, he looked like a senior citizen 40 years ago.
Okay here's the thing about okada he's actually gone on record saying that if it wasn't for TNA he wouldn't have never develop his Rainmaker gimmick which has made him the Megastar he is today
It also had nothing to do with New Japan ending their agreement with TNA like so many people try to say. The TNA New Japan working agreement ended because TNA booked British Ambition to beat Team 3D for the IWGP tag titles without discussing it with New Japan management. New Japan was pissed that TNA booked a title change for one of their championships and ended the relationship shortly after.
It took Impact years to recover from the damage Eric and Hogan did. They never fully recovered actually.🤨
Look how small the Arena is today
Exactly. Now nobody’s even there.
Recover from what?
@@joshuamatott87 they changed it from what it originally was and it almost went out of business. The ratings went a million views to barely a 100k.
@@rickjames2.0 TNA used to have a six-sided ring, which was great for triple threat matches. Hulk and Bischoff got rid of that. In fact, they got rid of everything that made TNA different from WWE.
Hulk/Bischoff wanted to resurrect the NWO, but that was now the property of WWE, so they called NWO 2.0 "Immortal", which was anything but.
Oddly, it was a tattoo on Hulk's arm which caused me to walk away from it.
Let's hope AEW doesn't make the same mistake.........
AWA letting Hogan walk is the #1 biggest mistake in history of wrestling.
hm you are not wrong. touche.
I agree.
In hindsight yes but it's the same with Jericho stone cold mick Foley all leaving wcw they weren't the characters they were when they finally got over nobody could have seen it at the time cause everyone always forgets how crap hogan really is in the ring and if it wasn't for steroids he'd be an absolute nobody
@@samuelrussell7003 Hogan was a larger than life personality. No one gives a shit about work rate except neckbeard smarks, who are a minority of the wrestling audience
Honorable Mentions:
*Budget Cuts
*The Montreal Screwjob
*21-1, WrestleMania 30
*Royal Rumble 2014 and 2015 for Daniel Bryan
*Dixie Carter ruined Impact
*The Fiend's lost to Goldberg
*Hell in a Cell 2019
*Making Roman Reigns as the 30 and Final entrant, Royal Rumble 2017
*Hulk Hogan vs Sid as the main event of WrestleMania VIII not Savage vs Flair
*The Fingerpoke of Doom
*The Burial of Chris Jericho
The ending of HIAC 2019
It wasn't that major
AGREED
That spelled the end of WWE as we hoped it would be. We now clearly know Vince has no regard for the fans.
Kuya Wayne's Media Company we all found that out nearly 20 years ago lol
How about the damn stupid concept of HIAC as a PPV..
#1 Shorty. G.
Wwe sucks
The Fiend would Kill him
@@BoxingSavedMe probably
@@andreagentilcore6490not probably it's s fact
Mustang Cartel haha can you imagine Fiend vs Shorty G.... WM MAIN EVENT!
“WCW featuring Dante from The Devil May Cry Series!”
#1. Any NXT Star signing with the "Main Roster"
Kirk Exequiel Badillo The Shield (especially Seth Rollins), Big E and Xavier Woods, Kevin Owens (former/second Universal Champion, multi-time US and IC Champion), Asuka and Kairi Sane (current women's tag team champions), Alexa Bliss and Nikki Cross, The 4 Horsewomen, etc.
@@RomaroBrandon he got booked bad for a few years but bray wyatt
Daniel Bryan
@ƝᎩ BRAXTON [̲̅1][̲̅2][̲̅5] that's what I was getting at
Other then the rare star who happens to stick, you're 100% correct. Balor, Samoa Joe, Bobby Roode (correct spelling?), The Ascension.....the list goes on and on with guys whose momentum and career were completely destroyed by the call up
"A guy who had no business in a wrestling ring.... And David Arquette." When David Arquette deserves a world title more than you there's something wrong there lol.
Arquette redeemed himself in that documentary. At the time though....
I lost respect for Shitstain for booking HIMSELF as WCW Champion.
Russo makes Arquette look like Bret Hart.
Considering arquette actually loves wrestling (enough so that he has had a decent indy career),he is more deserving of it than russo could ever be...
And Kudos to Arquette, for donating all of his winnings to the families of Owen Hart, Brian Pillman, and Darren Drozdov.
Stone cold hugging Vince McMahon, Eric Bischoff debuting and hugging Vince instead of feuding with him, Goldberg’s heel turn, Goldberg’s and undertakers streak ending, and pretty much the majority of the nxt call ups
You could've just had WCW in the year 2000 as a whole spot to its own
Hulk hogan screwing over sting at starrcade 1997 should be 1.
I remember Hogan in TNA giving some promo in the ring with Dixie and others, and he was clearly repeatedly pressing the button on a TENS unit he had attached to his back the whole time. In retrospect, I find the whole invasion of TNA by Hogan and Eric as extremely interesting, being able to watch in real time as a few people brought down a company over the months.
The loss of randy savage was even more damaging when you factor in the loss of the 'slim jim' account that randy took to wcw. Vince really needed that easy & safe million a year, especially when easy E started playing every dirty tactic he could think of.
Dig karma.
Vince putting Savage on the shelf and letting him go was mucho stupedo.
1.Introducing a new world championship and proceeding to have "a part-timer" to hold it for more than one year.
Bad booking it's not the worse thing in history
@@laquintinbelser8342 It can be considered one of the worst World Championship decisions.
Making Owen Hart do that stunt at Over the Edge knowing full well that the sail boat clip they insisted he use was NOT designed for being used in that situation.
ROH taking the "reverse Vince McMahon" approach...
Ye killed me right at the end with that
WWE letting Cody Rhodes leave considering everything that has happened?
NO! then we wouldn't have AEW and the Wednesday Night Battle
@@chrisbuttonshaw2088 War? LOL
@@evilubuntu9001 battle atm. MAYBE we'll get lucky and it'll get REALLY good for both of them
@@chrisbuttonshaw2088 NXT is still their third brand vs. AEW's flagship show. Back in the 90's, this would be like WCW Pro vs. Monday Night Raw lol or vice versa Shotgun Saturday vs. Nitro don't get too excited yet.
@@evilubuntu9001 yeah but Raw/Smackdown aren't on the same day and/or as good as NXT
Top 10 isn't enough for the wrestling industry. Prolly need a top 100.
The Brawl For All and Jim Herd firing Ric Flair.
Imagine if Savage had stayed on into the attitude era🤤
I kept hoping he would come back
One if the great what ifs
well, if he stayed, vince would have had him on commentary... so it would have sucked for him, and everyone else.
🤔
We might have instead had Stephanie McMahon-Savage.
Triple h's reign of Terror
The reign of terror was awesome
@@simoneddy1174 triple h buried talent, such as RVD, Booker T, and Goldberg etc.
Rvd, Booker weren't ready to carry the company and Goldberg was never going to be around long enough the reign of terror also gave us evolution which produces two future stars in Orton and Batista
@@simoneddy1174 rvd was over in September 2002, booker t was over when he unexpectedly eliminated the rock in a raw battle royal match to become a number 1 contender, even the rock putted booker t over. At wrestlemania, booker t was dominating the match against triple h. At the end of the match, triple h pinned booker t in a 23 second mark after he gave booker t the pedigree, making it the worst finish. Summerslam 2003, main event, Goldberg was over as hell, eliminating randy orton, shawn michaels and Chris jericho by spearing him to the elimination chamber pod. After he eliminated those 3, he targeted triple h in the elimination chamber pod, but ric flair locked it. However, Goldberg punched the chamber pod glass to beat triple h mercessly. While he was gonna prepare to finish triple h off, ric flair gave triple h the sledgehammer to attack Goldberg when he runs to perform a spear on him. Triple h defeats Goldberg without putting much effort, and everyone was pissed.
Simon Eddy Booker T was a great champion in WCW .... Goldberg was strong and the only reason they went with Randy Orton was because of his damn father . Batista just became another “ Next big thing joke “ and they turned RVD also into a joke. Like CM Punk said Triple H was gonna always call the shots ... it wasn’t smart then and it’s not smart now ... They could’ve pushed more talent but instead they pushed the wrong guy ... All The time
Was this made before HIAC 2019?
Okada's treatment in TNA wasn't great but Okada has credited his time in TNA as helping him learn about character work and come up with the Rainmaker persona. Also New Japan ended their relationship with TNA becuse TNA booked British Ambition to win the IWGP heavyweight tag titles from Team 3D without asking New Japan. It didn't have anything to do with Okada's booking.
For me: Triple H burying Booker T, Stephanie McMahon being kayfabe owner of ECW, Vince not buying out the contracts for top ECW guys like NWO, Sting, Goldberg etc. Also, Rikishi's heel turn was the most lame thing ever. At least Austin's heel turn had some good moments here and there. Rikishi's was completely nonsensical.
You can add Jordan Myles calling Jay lethal an uncle tom to that list
What about Jordan Myles' latest T-shirt?
Typical leftist, being racist and not even realizing it.
Super Nitro Z64 it’s not racist Myles saw the shirt before they released it, know your facts.
An Uncle Tom actually was the one who would take up for the African Americans. Learn your history.
WWE not putting Ryback over as WWE Champion. Not putting Shinsuke Nakamura over as WWE champion at Wrestlemania after he had won the Royal Rumble. WWE ending Asuka's undefeated Streak at Wrestlemania before she got to be Women's champion
Why my dude Eric Bischoff look like Dante from DmC V in the thumbnail 💀
I just realised ROH made their rivals lol
Yeah, I bet they aren't too happy about that lol. Whoever agreed to that deal, has to be kick themselves over that.
What began as a celebration of independent wrestling actually turned into birthplace of another "major" promotion and "legitimate" rival to the WWE.
Poor RoH, I really feel for them. It's like no matter how hard they try and all the accomplishments and progress they make, they can never win and are always stuck being the underdog promotion.
Damn! I'm just hearing this for the first time. That's fucked up how ROH pretty much fucked itself like that. I guess that's one of the reasons why I don't see ROH in syndication where I live anymore.
and it had NWA workers there too lol
What was meant to be a partnership has Turned out to be a hustle Cody hustled roh and njpw
I don’t care what anyone says wwe 2002-2008 is up there as one of the greatest wrestling periods ever.
Yeah, and the fiend is the best character ever
I agree, but 1997-2001 is the best
So there is intelligent life here
RUTHLESS AGGRESSION Era and TNA in their peak.
WWE breaking up the Hurt Business.
i hope wwe putting the title on jinder mahal is on this list.
Compared to giving the Great Khali the World title in 2007, there is no contest. At least Jinder can work a good match while Khali just struggles to even walk.
Goldberg squashing Bray Wyatt.
CM Punk leaving wrestling to become a terrible MMA fighter.
But now that he has MMA training, if he were to have a rematch with Teddy Hart in a truck stop parking lot, then...
Teddy would win in three minutes instead of 20 seconds.😂
The dude wasn’t happy under a shitty working environment and instead of being a slave he decided to do what he wanted .
@@Cappuccino1250 Good for him, but sadly he sucked at doing "what he wanted". Slave? LOL how pathetic, that means everybody who works under a contract is a slave, grow up, there is no slave who earns millions of dollars for his work. He wasn't a slave, just someone who whined because of first world problems. Thank God he isn't a slave now, he is now irrelevant.
And a mediocre comic book writer.
@@jimbo-fk4dq Im 50/50 on that I could take CM Chump.
10 Dumbest Decisions In Wrestling History
#1: Goldberg.
I like how they showed Goldberg, Russo, and Bischoff in the thumbnail, but never mentioned Goldberg's heel turn in the video
I think a worse decision by Verne was to book himself into the Tag Team and World titles at the end of his career, and then not lose either one in the ring. For a guy who was supposed to be the embodiment of old school wrestling it showed he was far more interested in stroking his own ego at the expense of a believable product or making any of the other talent look good.
Dixie Carter hiring Vince Russo
I mean MMA fighters vs wrestlers gave us some absolute legends like sakuraba the Gracie Hunter
WWE destroyed TNA's first Monday Night "Impact" show by scheduling Bret "Hitman'" Hart's return to WWE the same night on RAW.
Wwe over reliance of “legends”
So you're expecting Mustafa Ali, Velveteen Dream and Dexter Lumis to live up to Edge, Goldberg, Undertaker, Kurt Angle, Cena, and Orton in terms of drawing power?!
@@SpiralPoliFemboy those are the 3 leading acts they have? Last time I checked, Roman Reigns, Drew McIntyre, and Bobby Lashley are not on “Legends” contracts
Having Vince McMahon still in charge of creative and not pushing every superstar and not letting Triple H take over instead!
Finger poke of doom
Lol that was so stupid and lame
Here's one I thought for sure would be on the list: WCW having Goldberg vs Hogan on Nitro instead of a PVP. They would have made bank with that, even if the rest of the card was garbage. Instead, they got one single week of crazy high ratings for Nitro and then they got pretty much nothing else from it.
They sold out a 60,000 seat arena they otherwise certainly wouldn’t have as a result of promoting that match. Wcw doesn’t sell 1/3 of the tickets in the Georgia done wo that match. They did what they *felt* they had to do. Bottom line is Goldberg was the only star left in that company and that show was the only place to have him win the belt and have it be that big a moment.
Wow, rocky III was nothing compared to Rocky IV. Story, vilian, music, its all there. Rocky III had its moments but no, IV over III. I will fight about it. Haha.
MacMahon also made Bret Hart looks old during promo clips prior to his match for the world champion belt against Shawn Micheals for Wrestlemania
How so ?
@@superlex611 look at the promos prior the match. but in short :
Hart : jogging like an old man in the snow, Stu dominating his son with submission, and contemplenting the snowy canadian landscape.
Micheals : training like crazy and looking like he was in a better shape than Bret.
@@jeffmaesar well that is the training method of Bret
@@superlex611 in his WWE DVD and in his biography, he said they made him look bad.
Bret words, not mines actually.
@@jeffmaesar because they want to push Shawn as a main eventer because he is 8 years younger then Bret
The biggest issue with the Hogan/Bischoff era of TNA was how much money they wasted -- on over-the-hill talent yes, but also on taking the show on the road. HUGE waste of money for a company that wasn't ready to do so.
Letting people with no experience be in control of Owen Harts entrance
WWE going PG was terrible and made lots of people turn off wrestling.
MaximMicheal20 facts I stopped watching when they went PG I grew up loving wwe/wwf
Like it or not, this is false. The ratings of WWE during the PG era, 2008 to 2013, declined by 0.26 points. This is insignificant compared to the 6 years since: 1.1, and the 2.61 in the 8 previous years. Yes, the “Ruthless Aggression” era lost WWE 10X the viewership that the PG era did.
Seekarr Nope. The PG era made lots of long time hardcore wrestling fans turn off from wrestling still. The Attitude era had huge ratings in the 5’s and 6’s but when the Monday Night Wars ended in 2001, the wrestling industry was never the same again without another wrestling promotion competing with WWE. Impact tried to compete with WWE in 2010 and failed miserably, ROH never had a major tv deal, AEW is new and still has lot to prove before competing with WWE.
Thank god latino save wwe in 2010 get more views
I thought TNA was alright and fun to watch back then. the only problem I had with it was having it move to Monday nights to begin with.
Lance was presented as a Von Erich “cousin” not brother. But yes, still an awful decision.
Add the fiend losing to Goldberg to the list
I’m thinking of bringing Vince Russo back. Should be fun.
at this point , that might not be a bad idea considering how many other past rejects have failed so far .
Do it. Stop choosing writers based on how physically fit they are and choose them based on their TV writing ability!
Do it at least wwe would be interesting again, and it wont be match after match after match with no storylines or characters with 100 flips a match...
@@GregOGrady84 "Alright bro we're gonna have ourselves a Lana on a forklift match!"
@John Lorton russo writing with vince filtering all his bad decisions was the best and most successful time in wrestling that is a fact
Vince's invasion anyone katy vic anyone 😂😂
The Okada thing was genius, he wasnt a star AT ALL when he went there. When he left, American wrestling fans realized he was being treated like crap and felt bad for him always losing, kinda like has happened with so many wrestlers before him,,, and after.... and since hes become the best in the world. Him going to TNA and being buried only made us want to see him that much more when we realized how great he was.
Brock vs. Valasquez, Braun vs. Tyson... Same bs still going on.
From what I've heard,the reason that AWA refused to make Hogan world champion was they feared it would affect his popularity in a negative way.
Ha that still doesn't make sense
@@num1Jaysta Welcome to the world of professional wrestling booking
SmackDown just got 800k viewers. I think you overestimate how good they're doing because of tv deals and Saudi blood money.
I think also the decision to not somehow see Okada's potential even on TNA is why TNA was so garbage back then.
Slight correction: Lance Von Erich was touted as a Cousin to the Von Erich family. Fritz tried to pawn him off as the son of his K-Fab brother Waldo. Problem is that the fans already knew that Waldo was not his real life brother, but that The guy who played him was dead.
Surprised you said All in. You’re not wrong though. ROH planted the seeds for its own demise. A demise that we are witnessing at this very moment. ROH might have well died when the Elite left and putting the ROH belt on Taven was the final nail in the coffin
I still believe dave and elite worked together and trick ROH. And they kinda trick NJPW to push elite over bullect club.
10. The AWA was a workrate company, in a work rate territory, and Hulk Hogan couldn't work (his time in Japan showed folks that he wasn't entirely inept, but even then you're talking about 15-minute go's). Gagne going with Hogan would've meant going away from his vision of wrestling.
Vince McMahon was glitz and spectacle above everything, and Hogan was basically all spectacle so the pairing worked, and went on to do what it did.
AWA tries to go all in on Hogan, and they likely kill their territory and business
Gee, how'd that work out for them?
#1 undertaker losing to brock lesnar at wrestlemania
N.W.O in the WWE.
I use to watch World Class Wrestling back then. They said on TV, and in magazines (PWI) that Lance was a cousin. Not a brother.
Gagne didn't pin the title on Hogan because Hogan was always in danger of leaving full-time for Japan. For Hogan, the AWA was a side gig. And Hogan would have left for the WW(W)F whether or not he had won the title or not.
How about ending The Undertaker's WrestleMania streak? Or ending Goldberg's winning streak the way they did? If you really look at it that's when WCW really started to die. After Goldberg took that loss to Kevin Nash
Here are some additional candidates:
WCW fires Ric Flair: One thing you didn't mention in your critique of Jim Herd is how they fired Ric Flair just 10 days before the GAB PPV where he was supposed to pass the torch to Lex Luger. That decision contributed to what was arguably the worst mainstream PPV of all time. It also gave McMahon the opportunity to hire and push Flair, as well as the Gold Belt that Flair took with him in a dispute over money.
Eric Bischoff suspends Ric Flair in 1998: Proving Bischoff didn't learn from Herd's experience, he got into a p!ssing contest with Flair over Flair taking time off, and thus suspended Flair, which angered the WCW fanbase. Granted, Flair came back to great fan support, which they pretty much ruined.
The WCW burial of Jericho: WCW had something pretty special emerging in the summer of 1998 with Jericho getting some of the biggest reactions on the show. Arguably the only talent getting a consistently better reaction was Goldberg. Thus it made sense to pair them together, which they seemed to be doing, as Jericho frequently taunted Goldberg on TV and even PPV. But the feud was then stopped with the only blowoff being a Goldberg spear to Jericho in the aisle. That decision made the glass ceiling of WCW visible to everyone, and pretty much guaranteed Jericho would leave once his contract was up. In fact along with Big Show, Jericho was among the first major WCW to WWF defection of the Monday Night Wars, paving the way for the Radicalz to do the same in early 2000.
ECW Champion Justin Credible: When Mike Awesome defected while still being ECW champion, the short--term response of Taz coming back to win the title was brilliant. However, less that two weeks later, Credible wound end up with the title, and Francine, having challenged Tommy Dreamer immediately upon Dreamer winning the title. THe moment was shocking, but did nothing for the company in the long run, as by the time Credible dropped the title, ECW was about to lose its national program on TNN, and they would be months away from the company folding entirely. Could someone more popular with the fans like Raven, Sandman or RVD have saved the company? Unlikely, but Credible as champ for four months certainly ensured they would have no chance for survival.
This whole video could easily be summed up as
1. Vinnie Mac out of touch
2. Russo
3. More Russo
No one:
No one:
Bischoff: I'm dying my hair silver
pretty sure his hair was already silver, and he just stopped dying it black with shoe polish
The Black was Dye since his AWA Days... he simply stopped 'topping off the oil'
I like it
This is one of the best what culture videos I have ever seen - they really did their research well to find a bunch of interesting stories I had never seen before
Joey Cage. No they didn’t, they (like always) got a bunch of facts wrong. For example, Lance Von Erich wasn’t portrayed as another Von Erich brother, he was introduced as their cousin. WhatCulture REALLY needs to do better research.
@@Musiclover19 yeah but nobody knows who these people are anymore so the facts are always going to be a bit shady, as with any wrestling history, I was just pleased they didn't just take everything from the attitude era like normal
@@TyrannosaurusCHEX Nobody knows who these people are anymore? You must be quite young.
The facts aren't sketchy, they are there, it's just that WhatCulture is poor at doing research. The narrator can't even say "Misawa" properly, which leads me to believe he's never watched a Misawa match.
I've only just realised how much Eric Bischoff looks like Lee Choalan from Tekken in this thumbnail!
DONT YOU DARE DISS THE LEGACY OF BOB SAPP
That man was trash what made it even worse is this the same dude who played ok the longest yard afterwards lose to inferior competition in MMA
YOU SIT ON A THRONE OF LIES BOB SAPP IS A GODDAMN NATIONAL TREASURE
I never knew about the ROH info. That's tragic they got the short end of the stick
Breaking up the hurt business and firing Samoa Joe and some others
When ditsy-I mean Dixie left, it got a whole lot better. Now, in my opinion, it is the 3rd best wrestling product in North America.
Here's your real #1: Undertaker Loses The Streak
Undertaker had a 21-0 record spanning 24 years when he stepped into the ring against Brock Lesnar, and most believed he'd end up being 22-0 before the end of the night. Instead, an already super over Lesnar fractured his skull and concussed him during the course of the match, pinning Undertaker. It is a testament to UT he walked out(!!!) under his own power to collapse in the back. The shock and pure disappointment resulted in an estimated 25,000 people walking out, one of them being Shawn Michaels, during the Divas match that never had a chance.
Oh, and the epilogue? Lesnar vanished for four months from TV after the win. Gotta put that part-timer over and keep him fresh! Everybody lost, and a guaranteed draw come WrestleMania time died just because Vince thought it would be a good idea. BONUS: Vince also jobbed Charlotte Flair in 90 seconds later that year to Natalya on RAW, and why? Because he figured nobody would remember. Luckily, he was right.
Heres where your WRONG it was always ut idea to end the streak he wanted orton to do it but orton refused out of respect
@@raviolihands5347 He also wanted kurt angle to do it, he wanted someone new to break the streak, his logic being it would secure their career.
I mean he'd be right.
It was not Verne Gagne's fault at all. Hulk had a real-life issues with Gagne's son Greg Gagne which stemmed from their early days in amateur wrestling. When Verne brought Hulk to AWA, Greg openly refused to be second to Hulk and Verne just had to chose. He chose his son, of course.
Funny how frequently Hogan gets mentioned in all of these
I would put the AJPW's situation with Baba's wife at #1, because even though All Elite Wrestling became a thing, ROH can still go. AJPW never recovered from the NOAH exodus.
No, it's hindsight. At the time, it wasn't a bad decision. Motoko Baba was the business mind behind All Japan for many years. Misawa was a worker. Who was to know that Misawa would take just about everybody with him to form his own company? Look at Japanese wrestling now, pretty much every company pushes the same thing. All Japan was vastly different from New Japan. The company was a strong draw right up until Giant Baba's demise. Giant Baba knew that he was on a winner, yet Misawa (for whatever reason) wanted a change in direction after Baba's passing.
Remember, it's a dumb decision only if it seems dumb at the time. A regrettable decision, maybe, yet not a stupid one. It's not fair to judge these things with the benefit of hindsight.
@@markv1274 3 years later...and now TK owns ROH.
Honestly, though. The biggest mistake ROH has done was relying too much on the Bullet Club instead of building their own stars. When the Elite formed AEW, their audience left ROH high and dry. So that qualifies as a stupid decision.
I agree with what you said about the difference between regrettable and stupid. Even though Misawa sensed a shift in mentality from the Japanese fans, All Japan was still doing well.
But the exodus was too much for All Japan.
Letting it be known Vince bought WCW. Could have just kept the war alive.
The NWA allowing Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard to go to the WWF, ushering in the dark ages for NWA\WCW.
Keeping diesel as champion for so long should be on here
Hehe, “Brawl of it all.”
I thought Randy Savage was let go and black balled was more because he Banged Steph
No, it's a bs rumor. He wouldn't have ever slept with any underage girls. He was released bc of the slimjim thing.
@@downwithputinsaveukraine1313 it was to happened shortly after her 18th
I can't believe I have to remember this. But WCW deciding that Nazi-themed Heel should be called "The Final Solution" any one whose thoroughly studied history particularly WW2 will tell you a what moronic decision that was.
Number one letting Goldberg think he could wrestle!
Hi I'm Adam wilbourne
*switches off*
Do you not like Adam wilbourne
Did anyone else at beginning of vid when he said,wwe is so wealthy, feel like saying how wealthy are they lol
Kendall Taylor aka Taylormade Me
That's what she said, and that is always first lolz 👍
Awesome going back in time to the Baba/Misawa debacle, basically killed what might be the greatest promotion of all time (all Japan at the time was really next level)
I haven't watched this yet, but I bet Vince Russo is to blame for at least half of these
HONORABLE MENTION: NEVER PUSHING CESARO IN WWE 😭😭😭
God how I wish Simon Miller could do all of this personality vacuum's videos to make them watchable.