Misery at Murfreesboro - The Battle of Stones River (1862)

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    For Abraham Lincoln and Jefferson Davis, the summer and fall of 1862 was a veritable roller coaster ride of emotion, from glimmering hope to hand-wringing despair.
    For Davis, the Confederate summer offensive may well have been the South’s greatest chance for foreign recognition - but by the end of October, that moment had passed.
    For Lincoln, far too cautious and deliberate generals allowed retreating Confederate armies to escape from Maryland and Kentucky. Both presidents had to accept that the conflict had no end in sight.
    And yet, as 1862 drew to a close, both saw opportunity in central Tennessee. Fought in weather that had to match the mood of weary men, officers, presidents, and American people, this is the story of the clash along the banks of Stones River. This is the story of the Battle of Murfreesboro.
    #civilwar #civilwarhistory #murfreesborotn
    Narrated by Fred Kiger
    Produced by Dan Irving
    Published by Third Wheel Media
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    ____________________________________________________________________
    Some Characters Mentioned In This Episode:
    Braxton Bragg
    Don Carlos Buell
    Willian Rosecrans
    Philip Sheridan
    Leonidas Polk
    Julius P. Garesché
    Recommendation for Further Reading: www.amazon.com...

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  • @dougburt2449
    @dougburt2449 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Battles in middle and east Tennessee are often overlooked.
    Thank you

    • @PraiseDog
      @PraiseDog 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not to those of us who have a literacy concerning the Civil War. The West was just as important as the East in determining the outcome.

    • @marknewton6984
      @marknewton6984 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why did Bragg retreat after he won at Murfreesboro TN?

  • @leonstancliff7218
    @leonstancliff7218 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I grew up, achieved two post grad degrees in history and taught history for 30 years in sight of this battlefield. There is an excellent museum, historic site, and docents present that are second to none if you are traveling that way. It is preserved to such an extent that the local road and railroad grid are unchanged to this day and are identical to the maps used in this battle analysis.
    Rosecrans army immediately located a supply depot that required 40,000 men to operate, within sight of the courthouse of a town of only 2,000 citizens. That depot sat squarely on top of a highway and rail hub that controlled access to the main pathway to Chattanooga/Atlanta as well as direct access to Birmingham and Huntsville. There was much more that happened here other than "win a battle and march on".

  • @detroit12870
    @detroit12870 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I love how the story is well told without a bunch of stupid unnecessary explosions and whatnot

  • @patrickcummins976
    @patrickcummins976 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    My g.g. grandfather, Private John G. Cummins fought at Stones River for the KY. 3rd Vol. Infantry. He spent an additional 6 months there as part of the occupation by the Union Army to prevent the Confederates from retaking Murfressboro, TN. I've stood on the very locations at the battlefield where John G. Cummins was stationed throughout the battle. He went on to serve in a number of vicious battles through Georgia with Sherman. He survived the war and returned to a simple life of farming in rural Kentucky afterward.

    • @alanaadams7440
      @alanaadams7440 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for sharing your story 😊

    • @wojciechgrodnicki6302
      @wojciechgrodnicki6302 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s an epic story. I’m surprised so many men in KY volunteered to defend the Union. The CSA seemed like it took KY for granted.

    • @brucerider8361
      @brucerider8361 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My GGG and GG Grandfathers also fought at Stones River. They were illiterate farmers from southern Indiana. Records show they attempted to join during the 90 day enlistment, but didn’t muster in until December; the 58th Volunteer Indiana Regiment, Company I became their wartime family.
      I misunderstood so much of their service for far too long. Family folklore said the father was known as “General Jones” after the war; both were Privates. I knew they were teamsters, so I assumed they just drove wagons. I stopped at Stones River for a few hours while traveling by (sounds like the discretion in this video!) added more light to their service. I had no idea they were near, much less served on this battlefield. Now I know four soldiers from Company I never left this battlefield.
      I listen to wonderful stories similar to this, trying to uncover a glimpse of their service. They were among tens of thousands who served in the western theater. Their Regiment was among the first to enter Chattanooga; became the left wing helping General Thomas earn his moniker “The Rock of Chickamagua.” The elder “General Jones” was wounded during the assault up Missionary Ridge, then reenlisted as a Veteran Volunteer; both marched with Sherman to the Sea; my GG Grandpa mustered out there having completed his three years of service and turned 20 during the final days of this historic campaign. “General Jones” continued working as a pontooner during Sherman’s march towards victory. He eventually Marched in the Grand Review in Washington DC. Then he heading back to his wife and other children, just another farmer in southern Indiana.

    • @campbell1897
      @campbell1897 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That story is provably false. Try again...

    • @JohnAnglin-lh7bs
      @JohnAnglin-lh7bs 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Likely they subdued the enemy; it was a definite turning point in the war

  • @1987palerider
    @1987palerider 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Attended college at Middle Tennessee State in Murfreesboro and was able to swing by the battlefield one weekend. The modern mind boggles at getting caught in a fight like this

    • @Rob-gy1dd
      @Rob-gy1dd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well I bet they were boggled too

  • @rockharvey5787
    @rockharvey5787 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I absolutely love this channel. I discovered it a week ago and I’ve listened to every video since then. I’m sad to be caught up!

  • @NealBones
    @NealBones 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    The pictures you show of Davis and Lincoln at the beginning really show how much the war itself and being the head of their respective nations during said war really took it's toll on them. Thank you as always for passionately preserving our history.

  • @ryanandre3556
    @ryanandre3556 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Riveting! So well done, thank you.

  • @isisnmagic1812
    @isisnmagic1812 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Great video love the narration, so glad to have found you a few weeks ago, you got a fan here in Scotland.

  • @rolandmiller5456
    @rolandmiller5456 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Keep up the good work: this is an awesome series.

  • @Kizmiass-o6p
    @Kizmiass-o6p 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Bragg was a terrible general why was he so honored after the war especially after losing Atlanta

  • @apark91
    @apark91 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Only thing I wish you guys did was do the battles chronologically. Would have loved it done in order.

    • @isisnmagic1812
      @isisnmagic1812 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's the only downside to an otherwise good channel.

    • @ThreadsfromtheNationalTapestry
      @ThreadsfromtheNationalTapestry  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, we didn't originally plan it that way and didn't realize how much interest we get. Maybe it's something we can try to organize down the road.

    • @apark91
      @apark91 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThreadsfromtheNationalTapestry I think your channel is phenomenal; really reminds me of the Ken Burns style documentary, but it's a bit discombobulating to go from a battle in 1862 to 1864 to 1861 and so forth and so forth. If I wasn't well informed on the topic, I might be very confused about how the war went in general.

  • @BA-gn3qb
    @BA-gn3qb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Braxton Bragg was one of the Union's most effective generals.

    • @fett333
      @fett333 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Truth - showed a true talent in snatching defeat from the jaws of victory over and over again

    • @marknewton6984
      @marknewton6984 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bragg retreated after Perryville and Murfreesboro. Both victories Why?

  • @PlayboyHustler
    @PlayboyHustler 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I am a direct descendant of John Hunt Morgan', of Morgan's Raider's..

  • @ndh2051
    @ndh2051 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It's a good day when there is a new drop on this channel

  • @thomaslinton5765
    @thomaslinton5765 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Calvary" A mountain in Palestine

  • @ronwarren4196
    @ronwarren4196 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My people were with the 8th Tennessee Volunteer Infantry at Murfreesboro.

    • @ronwarren4196
      @ronwarren4196 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Bully for Bragg, he is hell on retreat!"

  • @peterandolph7628
    @peterandolph7628 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Murfreesboro was once the capitol of Tennessee

    • @The_Red_Off_Road
      @The_Red_Off_Road 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That is true. Also, the geographical center of TN is just north of MTSU.

  • @murrayscott9546
    @murrayscott9546 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I Will Take You Home Again, Kathleen. Laura . Music has charms to soothe the savage beast . Not enough music - in this World.

  • @truthbetold8878
    @truthbetold8878 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Excellent narration!

  • @lindaaumiller174
    @lindaaumiller174 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for keeping history alive!

  • @nathanappleby5342
    @nathanappleby5342 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The narrator's appearance reminds me of Richard Dreyfuss. Bragg was indeed the Confederacy's controversial general, an overzealous disciplinarian who ordered the unnecessary execution of a man who wanted to leave for the right reasons, a bad personality which prevented him from getting along with those under him, and physical and mental illnesses which affected his ability to command. Above all, when the war began in 1861, he made it clear he did NOT support secession. Both armies had things in common: both army commanders were fifth in their respective West Point classes, Rosecrans an engineer, Bragg an artilleryman, both had an incompetent corps commander in the forms of McCook and Polk, (McCook's middle name happens to be the surname of the Union general who was defeated at First Bull Run at the beginning of the war), both did have a reliable corps commander amongst them in the forms of Thomas and Hardee as well as two hard fighting division commanders in the forms of Sheridan and Cleburne. Had Sheridan not readied his men in the early morning hours, thngs might have turned out much worse. On the Confederate side, it should be noted Bragg, with the exceptions of Hardee and Breckinridge, scapegoated the other generals for the right reasons: Polk and McCown for incompetence and Cheatham for being drunk. Lincoln was precise when he told Rosecrans the win at Murfreesboro was hard earned in the midst of a dismal winter for the Union cause especially as it came from who was then one of the Union's best generals and maneuverers. Much bloodshed and many taken prisoner, but for the Union cause, it was worth it. I learned material in this video I hadn't before. Let's see if this guy can come out with other good ones.

  • @Brooks_M3
    @Brooks_M3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’d listen to you read a phone book 😂 these are amazing! Thank you for your hard work!

  • @Thej611
    @Thej611 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Excellent work as usual! Keep up the good work!

  • @exposethenwo6491
    @exposethenwo6491 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have visited the site and took a tour in 2017.

  • @paulmackenzie4752
    @paulmackenzie4752 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It doesn't really have to do with anything but I can't help my curiosity why do you talk with your eyes closed?

    • @tammygross144
      @tammygross144 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same question!

  • @joetamaccio9475
    @joetamaccio9475 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am enjoying the heck out of your histories . The detail is amazing . So many battles I never heard of . One point . Even the Assyrians had armored vehicles to protect advancing infantry !!!

  • @davidspencer6384
    @davidspencer6384 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A nice, well-presented, concise narrative. A very good series.

  • @trajan0707
    @trajan0707 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank You Bragg, he was the best Allied the North had. Why didn't someone in higher command get him out of there..?? Bragg is one of the biggest reason we did so bad in the West.

    • @mikechampion1614
      @mikechampion1614 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bragg did the men at Shiloh dirty to.when despite the hornets nest being a waste of good soldiers. Because of the thorns,trees etc.and very effective artillery support for the union forces present.despite 3 different requests for artillery support to deal with the union artillery and forces. He said no every time.and basically accused a wounded general of being a coward.just for requesting in person.
      The Hornets Nest cost more lives needlessly.becaus of Bragg. Only Ruggles ordering artillery support.won broke the Hornets nest disaster.

    • @marknewton6984
      @marknewton6984 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Davis should have replaced Bragg with Johnston or Beauregard. How the West was Lost...

  • @zackschooley5858
    @zackschooley5858 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a history buff, I look forward to your videos. Is there a chance you could do a video on the battle of pea Ridge?

  • @drlopez22002
    @drlopez22002 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another incredible historical piece!! Thank you! ❤ AnnMarie Quesada

  • @shakermaker4
    @shakermaker4 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I must say, I really love this channel. As a man in his late 30s who loves history, this is as good as it gets.

  • @lawrencemarshall6676
    @lawrencemarshall6676 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My great great grandfather fought in the 74th PA Volunteer infantry at Stones River. That charge that was made.....he was there....

  • @WhatTheBoot
    @WhatTheBoot 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    AMAZING NARRATING. Can we have more maps that shows the units movements

  • @rickwamsley8702
    @rickwamsley8702 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great sireis, seems like the country is moving in the same direction now except instead North vs South it's Government vs We the People.

    • @bertb5992
      @bertb5992 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      agreed, its a sad state. hopefully calmer heads prevail. And the country can come together again.

  • @BedeLaplume
    @BedeLaplume 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really interesting research, montage and narration documentary..

  • @jamesshemwell6868
    @jamesshemwell6868 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So far I've found all of the stories here very good. I especially like the ones about Shilo, Franklin and Murfreesboro to be some of the most interesting. I grew up in Clarksville and my father was from Stewart County so I was knew much more about Ft Donelson. I only wish I'd had the opportunity to have visited these other battle sites.

  • @CSAFD
    @CSAFD 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    April 6/7,1862 is where the south lost the war of federal nazi aggression.

  • @jackmessick2869
    @jackmessick2869 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A bad time of year to fight with muzzle loaded "black powder" firearms. And travel on poorly designed dirt roads.

  • @EipsteinClyde
    @EipsteinClyde 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Walker Kimberly Robinson Dorothy Anderson Kevin

  • @tammygross144
    @tammygross144 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well done. IMO, this was the pivotal turning point that spurred the still long war to its Union victory.

  • @70stunes71
    @70stunes71 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My great great grandfather was wounded at the battle of stones river. 4th mich cav.

  • @robertwilliams3527
    @robertwilliams3527 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like
    I’m listening to Paul Harvey
    The rest of the story.

  • @jord1242
    @jord1242 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I lived in the boro was 5 min from the field. Really cool to drive by.

  • @alanmoffat4454
    @alanmoffat4454 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER REGIMENTS MADE OF PEOPLE WHO CAME TOO AMERICA SCOTS, IRISH , GERMANS. 😮😊

  • @TonyRedunzo
    @TonyRedunzo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great narrative!

  • @danielpuckett7792
    @danielpuckett7792 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks!

  • @superpunky4882
    @superpunky4882 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great job I am learning so much.

  • @FryingTiger
    @FryingTiger 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mur Free. It is not thay hard.

  • @mikechampion1614
    @mikechampion1614 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its amazing how you can watch multiple videos. on the same historical events.
    And every time you get something New or understand something a bit deeper. This channel has done just that and much more.
    Much Respect Sir.

  • @Lance_Lough
    @Lance_Lough 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It's Cavalry...Calvary was a biblical hill in Israel..

  • @jayquinn5293
    @jayquinn5293 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks!

  • @Sgtklark
    @Sgtklark 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks!

  • @formalbug5716
    @formalbug5716 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    *Union Gang Represent*

  • @TomED1948
    @TomED1948 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wouldn’t say it was “sad” that someone as incompetent as Bragg remained in charge. It would result in a Union victory far faster. The slaughter that would happen under his command however is sad.

    • @TomED1948
      @TomED1948 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also, a delightful video. Very well done!

    • @MichaelDeutschman
      @MichaelDeutschman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@TomED1948 You worship George Floyd, we get it. BLM

  • @DipDuckDive
    @DipDuckDive 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My 4th gg grandfather fought in this battle with the Union.
    Thank you so much for this. I’m trying to learn as much as I can about his life.