I put it in C tier because I knew it wasn't bad but I had no experience with it. After trying out some New tech that was linked in the Video and its Description. I now Would Easily move it up to at least B tier. It is not as useful in Speedrunning. but its Cybergrind Damage output is Bonkers!
Tbh i agree with everything but the green railcannon deserves a better rank. Its so useful when you uhmm when you uhhhhhhhhhh... That one mechanic where you uhhh... Yea
People hate on it to much, its quite helpful against brutal mineflayers on high waves of cyber grind and can pretty much do the same thing as the jackhammer without cooldown (hitstop high damage) you just gotta be good at aiming it.
As someone who mainly does cybergrind, I'd move up all the jackhammers into SS tier without any hesitation lol. I agree that they're lacking compared to the regular shotgun in level speedruns cuz of the chargeup and recoil, but in the open space of cg it's a LOT more destructive if you know what youre doing Ngl jumpstart is probably like mid S or high A tier for me. For conduction, electric railcannon is a lot easier and faster to pull off instantly if you just use one overheat nailgun barrage on a cerberus or smt then throw coins up. Also alt marksman does have its niche, although default is more versatile usually. The main place it does better than default is single target damage, since if you hit a splitshot it does 5 damage to a single enemy, and if chained with a coinpunch it can do like 10 damage instantly. I tend to switch between both variations, and they both perform well, so the gap between the two isn't THAT wide
Yeah I understand where you are coming from. Jackhammers are clunky in Speedrunning most of the time. But people are routing it Into runs now. Notably in 7-1 and 2-4. The hardest part is that in Cybergrind the Alt Core eject is Great but in Speedrunning it's bad to Meh, and Vice Versa for the Default Core eject. I agree the Usefulness of the Blue rail in the Cybergrind is way less than in Speedrunning. But the Railcannons potential damage with coins is so goddamn high that I bump it up to S tier because of it.
I think you should have approached it by asking the following: "Looking at speedrun categories with no weapon restrictions, how often does the weapon show up?" By that metric, alt marksman is F-tier because it never shows up while default piercer and sharpshooter are present in at least in New Game category. Core eject shotgun should be a bit higher as core eject boosts are done fairly commonly. Pump-charge shotgun is also used commonly to do overpump boosts. Alt core eject and alternate pump-charge also never show up while alternate sawed-on is a default for speedrunners. Attractor and overheat nailguns, outside of new game category, show up only in select levels so they're not F-tier. I think malicious railcannon should be high tier as it's constantly used in nukes and ultraboosts. Perhaps it's the most used railcannon variant, especially in early levels. I'd put screwdriver in D tier but only because it's used in 7-3 and P-2 at the moment. But that's about it.
While this was not the Tierlist I was trying to make, I think that this is also a Cool idea! For this tierlist I gave tons more Weight to Cybergrind Effectiveness compared to Speedrunning Usefulness because only like 1% of people speedrun the game. But you are right, Things like the Core Eject and Malrails move up a ton in a Speedrun Tierlist.
The screwdriver has a tech where you can combine it with a full hit stop from a jackhammer and punching it on the same frame and it will do about 23.5-27 damage which is very good for high health single targets. I use it all the time and its a pretty busted combo.
Since the screwdriver can pin a mindflayer (stop it from teleporting), then full hit stop it with an overpumped jackhammer and punch the screwdriver at the same frame. The tech does around 32 damage and will insta-kill swordsmachines, ferrymen, and mindflayers especially in brutal difficulty.
Im glad you admitted that blue jackhammer can be good if you know how to use it, but I beg you to give it a chance. Sure core boosting and core sniping are better for speedruns, but the blue jackhammer lets you spam nukes without the red rail, which is invaluable in cybergrind. if you shoot out a core while riding a rocket, you can shoot the rocket hitscan into the core with jackhammer, creating a nuke. This is one of my favorite techs in the game and its soooo underrated. Other than that I agree with everything, srs should be higher IMO but b-tier is valid
Yeah, I just saw a video the other day just as I was finishing editing this video of new Tech for the Blue jackhammer, I even put text mentioning it. And after I found that out I tried out Triple Jackhammer, and man it is Something! I never considered before that Core boosting is basically free Malrail on like a 3 second cooldown. not to mention being able to do 3 red Jackhammer hits in a row is Bonkers! As I said in the video, I put it in C tier only because I don't have much Experience with it. But now that I do have a bit, its AT LEAST top of B tier if not into A tier.
(top 150 brutal cb) SRS cannon underrated. I always shoot the ball for a big yellow 5 damage explosion. Mal rail also underrated, sometimes you just don't have time for anything fancy, and so when all enemies follow you into an edge, just use it. Other than that, I highly agree with you tierlist.
I forgot to mention the damage of the SRS Explosion! But yeah it can be pretty handy having such a large explosion with decent damage. I don't think it would move it out of B tier, but that is definitely a big bonus.
There is a trick that takes a good load of health off the Flesh Prisons with the "slarpshooter". Punch a coin, throw another one and shoot the coin with the spinning "slarpshooter". It deals unfair damage because it bounces inside the prison.
I could see it being moved up because of the Movement. But I thought that because it relies on the Core eject for its utility, that they should be in the same Spot.
Good video! Unfortunately I disagree slightly with your opinions and as such I must dislike the video and report your channel. Loved your 0-3 runs 🙏 🕊️
I didn't say that the Alt Marksman was the Worst Weapon. To be honest the Default Piercer is Probably the Worst Weapon in the game. Doesn't mean that the Alt Marksman gets moved up to C tier.
You might, I used to hang out in the Ultrakill Discord servers Speedrun channel. Your Core Eject tech video was what I was talking about during the Alt shotgun section. Thank you for inspiring me to try it out and discover its Power!
Yeah the SRS cannon is Decent Burst Damage, and its explosion is bigger and lasts longer than others. But thats about it. It doesn't mix with its Primary Fire like the Freeze Frame (rocket riding) and the Firestarter (less than the Freeze frame, but it at least sets the oil on Fire).
@@Antidisestablismentarianism The reason the srs is so much better than something like green rail is because srs does not limit your playstyle by using any resources. It is a free, instant one shot for some of the most annoying enemies in the game, and it trivalizes inssurectionists. Yes it has practically 0 synergy, but who cares?
@@sadrahemmati my thoughts exactly but I will admit screwdriver is the only way I can deal with mindflayers in cg THEY JUST WONT STOP TELEPORTING HGJHGJFHGHFGJFHG
@@DOG_EATER_1887 im at wave 64 at brutal with 407 hours, and that placement just isnt right, its really good at dealing with mindflayers and medium enemies for sacrificing just a litle bit of horde clear
@@nitrocool2.0-1 I have 700 and have been to wave 90 on brutal and I do not think that is worth the sacrifice. Splitshots are better, and you don't risk the cooldown if you miss the spark. Like anti said in the vid by itself it would be great if default weren't just the better option. And I do like alt marksman especially for bosses
@@DOG_EATER_1887 ok, to me i just think splitshots arent worth, and missing the splitshot sucks too, but to me it doesnt outweight the heavy damage that thing can pump with precise shots good talk :)
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Blue jackhammer at C is painful. I would move it to A, but otherwise good list 👍
I put it in C tier because I knew it wasn't bad but I had no experience with it.
After trying out some New tech that was linked in the Video and its Description. I now Would Easily move it up to at least B tier. It is not as useful in Speedrunning. but its Cybergrind Damage output is Bonkers!
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This is literally my first time delivering like this but Thank you for the Compliment
@@Antidisestablismentarianism ur welcome good sir
@@LeoClark-us5rz sigh, pack it up guys, LeoClark-us5rz thinks this is unfunny
Not yet
Tbh i agree with everything but the green railcannon deserves a better rank. Its so useful when you uhmm when you uhhhhhhhhhh... That one mechanic where you uhhh... Yea
People hate on it to much, its quite helpful against brutal mineflayers on high waves of cyber grind and can pretty much do the same thing as the jackhammer without cooldown (hitstop high damage) you just gotta be good at aiming it.
@@Jbg802 well i used it against sisyphus prime because i was losing my mind and i won with it
@@Bulgroz7 yeah its also good for survivability
As someone who mainly does cybergrind, I'd move up all the jackhammers into SS tier without any hesitation lol. I agree that they're lacking compared to the regular shotgun in level speedruns cuz of the chargeup and recoil, but in the open space of cg it's a LOT more destructive if you know what youre doing
Ngl jumpstart is probably like mid S or high A tier for me. For conduction, electric railcannon is a lot easier and faster to pull off instantly if you just use one overheat nailgun barrage on a cerberus or smt then throw coins up.
Also alt marksman does have its niche, although default is more versatile usually. The main place it does better than default is single target damage, since if you hit a splitshot it does 5 damage to a single enemy, and if chained with a coinpunch it can do like 10 damage instantly. I tend to switch between both variations, and they both perform well, so the gap between the two isn't THAT wide
Yeah I understand where you are coming from. Jackhammers are clunky in Speedrunning most of the time. But people are routing it Into runs now. Notably in 7-1 and 2-4. The hardest part is that in Cybergrind the Alt Core eject is Great but in Speedrunning it's bad to Meh, and Vice Versa for the Default Core eject.
I agree the Usefulness of the Blue rail in the Cybergrind is way less than in Speedrunning.
But the Railcannons potential damage with coins is so goddamn high that I bump it up to S tier because of it.
9:54 people are finally waking up, I've been using default conductor since the beginning when everyone was shitting on it 💪
everybody knows the default conducter is goated what 😭
@@josephsiddiqui6472 ive seen so many people shit on it bruh
@@josephsiddiqui6472 on release it wasn't that good
I think you should have approached it by asking the following:
"Looking at speedrun categories with no weapon restrictions, how often does the weapon show up?"
By that metric, alt marksman is F-tier because it never shows up while default piercer and sharpshooter are present in at least in New Game category.
Core eject shotgun should be a bit higher as core eject boosts are done fairly commonly. Pump-charge shotgun is also used commonly to do overpump boosts.
Alt core eject and alternate pump-charge also never show up while alternate sawed-on is a default for speedrunners.
Attractor and overheat nailguns, outside of new game category, show up only in select levels so they're not F-tier.
I think malicious railcannon should be high tier as it's constantly used in nukes and ultraboosts. Perhaps it's the most used railcannon variant, especially in early levels.
I'd put screwdriver in D tier but only because it's used in 7-3 and P-2 at the moment. But that's about it.
While this was not the Tierlist I was trying to make, I think that this is also a Cool idea! For this tierlist I gave tons more Weight to Cybergrind Effectiveness compared to Speedrunning Usefulness because only like 1% of people speedrun the game. But you are right, Things like the Core Eject and Malrails move up a ton in a Speedrun Tierlist.
@Antidisestablismentarianism, then why did you call it "speedrunner weapons teir list" and not "cybergrind weapons tier list"?
@@Ymir._ It was meant as " A Speedrunners opinions Weapons tier list" but I understand that only about 1% of players will attempt Speedrunning.
The screwdriver has a tech where you can combine it with a full hit stop from a jackhammer and punching it on the same frame and it will do about 23.5-27 damage which is very good for high health single targets. I use it all the time and its a pretty busted combo.
yep it sucks (im a hater)
@@josephsiddiqui6472 dang :(
Damn I should Try that out!
@@Antidisestablismentarianismto also do more damage you use the chainsaw jackhammer and get even more damage.
Since the screwdriver can pin a mindflayer (stop it from teleporting), then full hit stop it with an overpumped jackhammer and punch the screwdriver at the same frame. The tech does around 32 damage and will insta-kill swordsmachines, ferrymen, and mindflayers especially in brutal difficulty.
Im glad you admitted that blue jackhammer can be good if you know how to use it, but I beg you to give it a chance. Sure core boosting and core sniping are better for speedruns, but the blue jackhammer lets you spam nukes without the red rail, which is invaluable in cybergrind. if you shoot out a core while riding a rocket, you can shoot the rocket hitscan into the core with jackhammer, creating a nuke. This is one of my favorite techs in the game and its soooo underrated.
Other than that I agree with everything, srs should be higher IMO but b-tier is valid
Yeah, I just saw a video the other day just as I was finishing editing this video of new Tech for the Blue jackhammer, I even put text mentioning it. And after I found that out I tried out Triple Jackhammer, and man it is Something! I never considered before that Core boosting is basically free Malrail on like a 3 second cooldown.
not to mention being able to do 3 red Jackhammer hits in a row is Bonkers!
As I said in the video, I put it in C tier only because I don't have much Experience with it. But now that I do have a bit, its AT LEAST top of B tier if not into A tier.
(top 150 brutal cb) SRS cannon underrated. I always shoot the ball for a big yellow 5 damage explosion.
Mal rail also underrated, sometimes you just don't have time for anything fancy, and so when all enemies follow you into an edge, just use it.
Other than that, I highly agree with you tierlist.
Mal rail underrated? Lol
@@cengix8850 Malicious railcannon xd?
I forgot to mention the damage of the SRS Explosion! But yeah it can be pretty handy having such a large explosion with decent damage. I don't think it would move it out of B tier, but that is definitely a big bonus.
@@Antidisestablismentarianism fair
Great vid bro, keep this stuff up
EVERYONE FINNA SAY MARKSMAN S TIER YESSIR
I mean, it Is tho
I don’t feel good after seeing this
Did you want a Pepto Bismol or Aspirin?
There is a trick that takes a good load of health off the Flesh Prisons with the "slarpshooter". Punch a coin, throw another one and shoot the coin with the spinning "slarpshooter". It deals unfair damage because it bounces inside the prison.
Y you shiting on the alt marksman?
mal railgun is pretty good for movement and don't u dare put the cannon ball that low >:[ it lets u DUNK on enemies
I could see it being moved up because of the Movement. But I thought that because it relies on the Core eject for its utility, that they should be in the same Spot.
If I see another list with the blue standard shotgun below S tier, I will lobotomize myself.
Good video! Unfortunately I disagree slightly with your opinions and as such I must dislike the video and report your channel. Loved your 0-3 runs 🙏 🕊️
I found an ultrakill player that does not swear
Nah I just mostly swear when Playing the game.
you could've made the tier names the same as in the game
Damn you're Right! how'd I not think about that...
Bro said "yeah we are gonna check the gun indivigually"
Still puts alt marksman as the worst weapon
I didn't say that the Alt Marksman was the Worst Weapon. To be honest the Default Piercer is Probably the Worst Weapon in the game. Doesn't mean that the Alt Marksman gets moved up to C tier.
10:59 What the hell did I even say?
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Hold on, do I know you?
You might, I used to hang out in the Ultrakill Discord servers Speedrun channel. Your Core Eject tech video was what I was talking about during the Alt shotgun section. Thank you for inspiring me to try it out and discover its Power!
@@Antidisestablismentarianism Try it out in the Cybergrind. A lot of the tech is really easy to pull off!
editing software?
I use a program called KdenLive, It's free!
(top 150 brutal cb) One combo I use a lot is coin punch then coin then hit coin with alt sharpshooter
I'm sorry? B!? baller is A fight me
Yeah the SRS cannon is Decent Burst Damage, and its explosion is bigger and lasts longer than others. But thats about it. It doesn't mix with its Primary Fire like the Freeze Frame (rocket riding) and the Firestarter (less than the Freeze frame, but it at least sets the oil on Fire).
@@Antidisestablismentarianism The reason the srs is so much better than something like green rail is because srs does not limit your playstyle by using any resources. It is a free, instant one shot for some of the most annoying enemies in the game, and it trivalizes inssurectionists. Yes it has practically 0 synergy, but who cares?
@@sadrahemmati my thoughts exactly but I will admit screwdriver is the only way I can deal with mindflayers in cg THEY JUST WONT STOP TELEPORTING HGJHGJFHGHFGJFHG
3:25 im sorry but i think its spelled malicious (not putting nerd emoji)
Damn...
my guy stop sleeping on the slab marksman damage
this guy has 4 thousand hours bro he knows better than you that the default is just superior
@@DOG_EATER_1887 im at wave 64 at brutal with 407 hours, and that placement just isnt right, its really good at dealing with mindflayers and medium enemies for sacrificing just a litle bit of horde clear
@@DOG_EATER_1887 but if hes saying as an speedruner purely like finishing an normal level at top records i agree the default is better
@@nitrocool2.0-1 I have 700 and have been to wave 90 on brutal and I do not think that is worth the sacrifice. Splitshots are better, and you don't risk the cooldown if you miss the spark. Like anti said in the vid by itself it would be great if default weren't just the better option. And I do like alt marksman especially for bosses
@@DOG_EATER_1887 ok, to me i just think splitshots arent worth, and missing the splitshot sucks too, but to me it doesnt outweight the heavy damage that thing can pump with precise shots
good talk :)
Hmm ok
ko mmH
1:52 Haha