Genetic Star Colonies and Human Panspermia
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- An exploration of the idea of genetic star colonies instead of direct ones and the idea of artificial human panspermia.
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Some years ago I watched an interview with a German astronaut.
When he was asked if he believes in aliens or not, he replied that it doesn't make a difference if there are none, because one day we will settle on distant planets and over time we will become the aliens ourselves by adapting to the new environments.
plus, even if there are no aliens, we'll never know. Their NON-existence can never be proven. Only their existence, if we meet a species
JMG DOES NOT CARE FOR YOUR ANECDOTES
In a way he's right, but the question isn't whether there will eventually be aliens. The question is whether there are any _not related to us._
I've been watching your channels for years John, and I'm sure your one of the best & most underrated universe & space type physics channels out here... I'm still waiting on that algorithm to kick in & send you 1 mill subs. Keep at it brother, it WILL happen!
Me too. This channel is AWESOME. And one of my Top 5
I have been watching here from the getgo. This is incredible
@@rockscousteau what's in your top 5?
Yup. Keep liking and commenting on his videos! Even if it's just a short comment like, "Awesome video JMG!!" 👍😊
Fingers crossed !
The idea of stars passing through our Oort Cloud is so thought provoking, love it
Hmm.. our sun would pass through their Oort Cloud too. Throwing comets towards their inhabitable earth like planet..
I wonder if intergalactic space could be used as a clean room for manufacturing things such as processors. Sounds like a great video idea. Would love it if you talked about it John.
This is why I love reading my comments sections, people bring up stuff I've never thought of. I'd have to think about this, but it's an interesting point. There's nothing cleaner than empty deep space. Some areas would be so clean that you'd only have a few hydrogen atoms per square meter to contend with as far as contaminants. Deep space is also as cold as it gets in the universe, just slightly above absolute zero. I can see that being useful as well.
Love you're content been watching for years. I like how you come up with whole videos based on ideas I would have never even thought of. Thanks 😄
John, you have a BIG brain to go with that soothing voice. Than you for sharing both. 😊
Brilliant video, as always! Adrian Tchaikovsky addresses the idea of us going to settle other planets in his Children of Time and Children of Ruin books. Interesting twists to both books 🤫
What a coincidence that I was reading about Panspermia deeply just yesterday, and thinking about it during the night about if we are from another planet but with less gravity since earth's gravity in theory isn't really suited for our species because of constant back complications, or that if earth is a prison planet because of our violent nature and we're placed to behave like children/animals.
And now today you made this, the youtube algorithim is scary and wonderful. Thank you for this video!
Those are some very interesting ideas mate, really makes you think
I've always brought that up whenever I had a argument with someone about human genetic engineering. They always think it's going to be designer babies or super soldiers.
A genetically engineered astronaut is absolutely what we might need in the future to survive. Resilience to radiation and micro-gravity are quite reasonable within our genome.
Hell no
The real question is, how much could you change a human genetically before they were no longer really that concerned with what matters to humans?
If you play with the human immune response and growth factors right, it could be less invasive. It could be as simple as inventing some Tardigrade Vaccines that would aid with cryogenic (or hibernation) stasis, ionizing radiation or extended micro-gravity. Meaning you'd take a battery of shots to recover faster and better from "space brain" due to radiation . . .or to do the same for stasis on long trips, or to preserve tissues under micro-gravity stresses.
As shown by history, their is largely no distinction between explorer and warrior. A genetically engineered astronaut would be a super soldier.
Great stuff, as always. I find myself a lot less optimistic about the prospects of colonization than I once was. Some of the technological problems are likely to be utterly intractable. Fusion energy has been "ten years away" since my dad was a kid and we're arguable not much closer now. I can't help but think we've been very naive about things like von Neumann probes and the like. I am a longtime Star Trek fan, and I think it's funny that the wiz-bang tech marvel of the transporters came about because the show couldn't afford the FX to have shuttles all the time! Much like ST we tend to think we can just cut any Gordian Knot we come up against in lieu of truly solving them but it might be impossible. The social and political challenges perhaps even more intractable. I was born shortly before the first moon landing and most my life has shown me a steady march of progress, social and scientific. Right up til 2016. Now we're dealing with the same things we fought WW2 to stamp out, only this time we're dealing with them at home. I think it was Churchill that said Americans can be relied upon to the right thing after we've exhausted all the other options. I had always assumed that we'd ultimately pull our collective heads out of the sand and hold the line against climate change but I'm much less optimistic now. My new assumption is that capitalism will extract every last drop of natural wealth from this planet regardless of the cost. Just as the wild growth of cancer kills the patient, so will the cancer of humanity kill Earth. Hopefully I'm wrong but sadly I think I was too naive for the first 50 years. Humanity is going to have to work hard to right the ship or we won't have 50 more years.
Unfortunately I see the same thing Rob Babcock... I don't have high hopes...
But if our distant ancestors or a friendly extraterrestrial species does come back to our time and download my consciousness into a matrix-like simulation server running in the antarctic, transmitted by... I don't know... my fillings and cellphone's bluetooth...
... Hey I see you, I'm onboard with the whole mind-uploading scheme and am ready to download to an android body to help with our collective species' mission of colonization of the uninhabited planets of the galaxy and with O'Neill cylinders and Dyson spheres as part of a post-human robotic crew observing primitive inhabited ones.
Minor correction to your line of thinking with the cancer analogy: Humans will not kill Earth. The earth has seen many challenges and will be doing fine again at some point. But what we will kill is ourselves.
Oh rly
I don’t think I’m as pessimistic as you about our prospects here on earth but I sadly agree about interstellar populations. I don’t think the Fermi paradox is a paradox at all…it’s an assumption that if there’s aliens they’ll try to make contact and engage in interstellar travel. But if you can optimize life in your own star system, even on multiple planets in said system, the amount of effort and suffering it would require to truly leave probably makes it a no-go. Unless you’re facing extinction if you stay home, why leave?
Climate change is real. Yes. But the climate "crisis" as they're calling it is nothing more than an orchestrated emergency to extract the money from your pocket and distribute it to the elite.
As if the powers that be didn't create enough financial havoc during covid, now they're selling us another Doomsday event to make us willingly give up our freedom for the "greater good"
I don't buy it.
They've been giving us deadlines for climate Doomsday for decades. We'll slowly ramp down production of fossil fuels, as we should. But accelerating the green agenda will destroy the livelihood of billions, and who will have the luxury of being able to afford to getting by?
The rich.
Stop with the hysteria. Slowly does it.
This is the only TH-cam channel I rush to watch every new video. Thank you for expanding my imagination every time.
I don’t know if humans, en masse, have the predisposition to think and plan on the necessary time scales for such colonization scenarios. We discount the future at such a low rate we cannot even meaningfully deal with the climate crisis. Are we stuck with a survival fitness function that biases heavily toward the near future (a human lifetime or two) and the near social (our family, friends and tribes)?
basically yeah
No country was even ready for Covid, which is something that we know happens regularly and is quite easy to prepare to. (pandemics). climate change is 1000x harder and complex. We would need fundamental changes in our society to reverse it, that's not gonna happen until we're forced too. i'm actually surprised so many people still believe in that planting trees, renewables energies and so called "green" technologies (just greenwashing. producing less things is the key to fight climate, not miraculous technologies that we're still waiting for)
the other hard reality is that in order to colonize space (even something "easy" like the solar system), we would require international cooperations, many ressources and a LOT of money. what's gonna happen with these kind of projects that require globalization when we just struggle to live in a planet getting unstable and inhospitable and globalization will weaken ?
It sure looks that way. That most people, most of the time, have a severe to profound bias favoring "the here and now" and "me and mine". As creepy as it sounds, we might have to have large chunks of our population join up with various purpose-driven A.I. systems as a Human-A.I. hivemind, just to get out from under that. In its simplest form it would be like joining a _Divergent_ faction, only less random, with more perks and possibly at least partially reversible. Meaning (mild spoilers) less genetic damage and more "joining a useful self-made A.I. cult to save the world."
The vast majority of people do not think more than a few days ahead, if that, but the vast majority of people have never been responsible for conceiving and directing multi-generational projects, many of which have been completed in human history. Luckily for the few visionaries, the vast majority of people are easily led, in fact they want to be led.
2 times midroll ads. At an annoying volume as well. So much for drifting off into a good sleep listening to JMG's soothing voice. Darn you youtube.
The reason Canadian Thanksgiving is a month earlier that the US one is that our harvest season is about a month earlier, because of different climate patterns in the two countries.
Perfect timing. Great end to to great weekend. Thank you, sir.
Decades ago you could buy wire guided airplane kits. You be in a spot and fly the plane in a circle around you, while you turned with the plane. It didn't take long to adjust so that you didn't get dizzy. O'Neil cylinders won't be as bad to get used to as people think, especially the big ones.
I remember those. Actually I still have an engine from one sitting around somewhere.
@@JohnMichaelGodier Control liners.
Those cox engines would about take your finger off, when it finally started...the good ole days 👍
Ahh yeah, a bedtime video again! These release times have been great for my time zone.
According to Star Wars lore, Jabba's pet was named Salacious Crumb.
That would be a good band name.
PS, love this channel. Keep it up!!
my stomach made a noise right as ya said 'in which we liiiiiiive'. thanks mate, this is a really great channel. you bring sleep. who could be more wonderful than a person who can bring sleep to the insomniacs of the world.
I was thinking about time travellers a while ago, and why we possibly have never seen any. My thought is that people from 1000 years in the future would most likely visit defining moments in humanity's past - so things like the bombing of Hiroshima (a grim thought for time tourism), 9/11, or maybe a near future supervolcano eruption. In such incidents, there's a lot more going on around the event in question for us to even notice a group of period-dressed humans observing the event, and recording it on some form of device. We may never even see them, since they could have accurate records of where most people were during the time, and sucessfully avoid them. I mean, if you're going to travel back in time form the future, why bother visiting 2022? Perhaps the really exciting stuff happens in 2023? And if it's an event in past, such as Hiroshima, how would we know the event was being watched by visitors from the future?
It all comes down to what kind of a planet are we leaving for Keith Richards....
Love your content man. I've been watching for a few years now. Great stuff
TY for all the content! Hope you have a great fall.
I simply love your narration, pacing, editing and writing. You are amazing
I remember reading a book by Peter F Hamilton, The Reality Dysfunction. I've yet to read it's sequels, but I remember habitats were the human consciousness of dead people can be stored in a habitats database so they can talk to the living. This would be pretty cool, so we could see what happens in the future without much consequence.
Bit of a late response here I know, but I just wanted to urge you to read the sequels, they're just as good as the first part. His 'Pandora's Star' series (that leads on to the Void trilogy) is also excellent. I admit I'm biased, as Hamilton is my favourite author, but still. Either way, have a nice day!
Always get excited when I see a new video bc ik I'll be sleeping good tn. I'm pretty sure I've watched almost every video a minimum of 3 times 😅
This is why I'm worried about our obsession with time in our society, every minute maters. But to do things it takes time
The easier solution to why no time travellers are here is that time travel does not affect the past, and that the odds of a time traveller travelling to any period in our particular branch of the universe is greater than every planck second that has passed where a possible deviation could have occurred since the start of the universe.
It's so unlikely that it would be more surprising to see a time traveller than to not.
How is it.... you don't have millions of followers?? This channel is unbelievable!!!
You’re really good at what you do my friend . Keep it up . Well thought out and very well presented as always
Last time I was this early my uncle left the room crying
I had to go get smokes...
Uhh...
Hi John, love your videos. I've said it before but your videos are always so interesting and calming. When I'm feeling down and alone, listening to your videos gives me a sense of warmth. Keep doing what you do. I love listening to your videos before bed.
Jmg does not care
Excelente como siempre
Che vero.
Dude same as the other guys. Been watching for the past three years. Amazing and very thought provoking videos. Relaxing, I watch them at night. Thank you sir. 🌙
How imaginative and soothing JMG videos, thank you so much for the amazing content really appreciate it dearly
John Michael Godier keeps getting better at ways to engage and present information.
What was that part that mentioned about flying to an exoplanet "in my own eel cylinder"? I'm unfamiliar with what this means. Is there any context or previous definition or explanation that I must have missed.? 🤔
O'Neill cylinder. More info here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Neill_cylinder
Love it! Perfect timing! 👍😎
Kim Stanley Robinson has a great hard sci fi story about a colonization starship with a burgeoning consciousness called Aurora. Highly recommend it.
The ship is needlessly small, and they go to live on a planet that already has life...
Hi john!
Hi!
@@JohnMichaelGodier Hoooolllllyyyyy shit! This made my day!
It is an unsettling thought when your creations begin to rapidly out-think and out innovate you. On one hand, you feel almost irrelevant, on the other, you crave the innovations brought forth by your creations. Making life easier, longer, better and the creators less and less necessary. Even passive, neutral reflections of their creators would eventually begin to see the superfluous nature of humanity. Entertaining and taking care of us as if we were children. Urging us to keep quiet in a back room somewhere while they slowly spread into the heavens. Not the evil AI so often portrayed, but also not the servants we originally created.
The only thing better than JMG videos, is his comment section 😂
John, you bring up genetic changes to adapt to new environments makes me think of "The Smoke Ring" by Larry Niven.
Cool. Thanks again. You just snapped me out of the crazy overloaded funk I'm in lately - way too much Multiverse Consciousness UAP Boltzmann-Brained Sasquatches in my headspace these days - I didn't realize how badly I needed my reality to be more-imaginary.
Something neat and fake that I can actually comprehend.
This while falling asleep is the best❤️
Very rare to get a Salacious Crumb reference. Well done!
good stuff as always, and a shout out to Canada! keep up the good stuff
Damn I enjoy your videos so much. Thank you.
Always awesome, JMG! Thank you - you are a positive force in the universe.
God I love this channel
Happy monday John
The "send more sports and dance music" reminds me of an old SNL sketch. It was a panel discussion show with psychics titled Next week In Review. He were discussing the next cover of Time magazine which would have the first message received from aliens. They discussed the Voyager probes having music ranging from Beethoven to Chuck Barry. The message was "Send more Chuck Barry".
Warm greetings John. I do so enjoy your compilations. Thank you from Cape Town South Africa 🇿🇦😎☺️
It's so fascinating thinking about the far future...sometimes it's hard to even let your mind go there, the world is so tumultuous right now...
Which is why Mr. House is the best ending for New Vegas.
(Lol, had to because of your PFP)
A pleasure as always!! Thank you!
Honestly, it might be best if we went cybernetic before settling other worlds.
True
The only channel that I have notifications turned on for. Got my girlfriend hooked on it too. Keep up the good work JMG!
i feel optimistic regarding our future. lately i find myself thinking of what i, alone, can do to prolong humanity. i see a new perspective on life and what it is in which we liiive thanks to your content, John.
Keep it to yourself
@@faizanrana2998 cope
Great video as always
Don’t know if you did it intentionally or not (hopefully not), but youtube has made some changes to their advertising causing videos to have an absurd number of commercial breaks unless you tell it not to. I’ve had 2 commercial breaks within the first five minutes after seeing a commercial before the video started. Just in case you didn’t know
Enjoyed this video.
A new JMG video means a good time.
This is a great story to distract the public from the fact you're personally responsible for wiping out the Dinosaurs.
Couldn't help it. Kentucky Fried Dinosaur, or KFD as we called it back then, was just too good. But I guess I did overdo it in hindsight. Never cook food using an asteroid.
I don't know if seed ships are the way to go about settling another solar system, although, that would be an interesting option!
It will never happen
if at 4 years old when i came into consciousness, someone told me that for the next 80 years all i would have to do was play video games and procreate on a generational starship. I'd be down.
Yep. This is what people aren't getting about the "generational starship" thing. If such a thing were made right and done well? It would have to be a flying utopia, deliberately designed with more than adequate resources and a rational workload for everyone on board, that gets lighter and lighter as the population of the ship grows very slightly in transit.
Basically, you'd have to make the ship as utopian as possible because once you're on it, there is no leaving it, short of committing suicide, and I'm assuming a human generational starship would have getting there as the first priority, with suicide prevention being the closest possible second place you can imagine. Meaning job one is getting there, preventing loss of life would be job 1.1, basically.
Another banger video🙏
My favorite science fiction stories usually involve different Human sub species meeting each other in space. The anime Crest of the Stars is a pretty good one that follows this trope though the world building aspect, and my favorite part, gets better in the sequel series Banner of the Stars.
Come live in johannesburg
2:32 😂I hope you found it
absolutely love your work
I've got Rimworld on one screen and this on another, cheers John
Kinda weird luck that the closest star (even though it's a red dwarf flare star) has a planet almost exactly the size of earth and in the "habitable zone". There are also many scenerios where parts of the planet given the right atmosphere are habitable.
Good stuff
Love your channel John. Keep it up. Can't wait until you're on Joe Rogan's podcast. I'm not gonna stop saying this until it happens.
John should go on Lex’s show. Rogan is passé.
@@MuzixMaker Agreed....Lex is far more interesting.
Sending love from Nebraska!
thank you Godier
Impeccable timing
Salacious Crumb is the one you seek.
Depending on the density and radius of a super earth the surface gravity can be the same as here but the surface area a lot bigger. The escape velocity would be higher though.
That was a good “liiiiive” at the end lol
I think JMG summed up the expectations from our cravings to understand the Universe, aliens & everything in the 5 words "you can't know the unknowable"
Another banger
I agree that we probably wouldn't see direct evidence of time travel. But that would probably be a requirement for a time traveler that they blend in and under no circumstances let anyone know who they really are. I feel like we wouldn't really know the difference anyway. Anything that happened would just be history. It's just more stuff happening what we wouldn't question because we learned about it in school, or maybe not these days. But the speed of technology in the last 100 years, heck even since 1990 has been insane. Little changes, improvements here and there. Just a few more tweaks than the thing already had. We'd never question any of it. To me the way things are going lately I'd say it seems like an entire army of time travelers are knocking about all over the place. It almost seems clumsy. The way world is now. You know, if it were a thing.
imagine that - a passing star and planet gets colonised - at some point the two colonies would be so far away that eventually contact will be lost and two distinct species would exist - if all else goes well.
Us humans doing panspermania ourselves, and then, 1 million years in the future, the Michael Godier of that planet speculating about this very theme.
Imagine "Tailored Swift," a pop-singer genetically reengineered for exoplanets.
LOL
And then you'd have to shake it off, so to speak, as the lyrical botches multiply during covers of local classics, because the Swifts can't always adapt to the proper dialect. Meaning chin-point "EEERRRRHH" noises everywhere out in space too.
Although one could make the case that an engineered W. Axl Rose could literally sing every song ever, and/or be the Lead Singer of every band ever. Yes, all of them. -Just don't engineer Paul McCartney, the universe couldn't handle all of the silly love songs, right?-
Excellent!!!
Hey I'm trying to recall the name of a story that you either referenced on this channel or did a video or mentioned in some capacity, it was about an alien civilization contacting Earth from the future and telling us not to respond to an alien SOS message that would be sent in 300 years because it was just a trick to find vulnerable civilizations that the aliens could exploit or conquer or something like that. Am I making any sense?
I too am searching for that Salacious Crumb figure John 😂
Just in time for sleepy time
Hi John I have a sincere question: at around 7:45 you refer to gas giants, ice giants, and super earths as the universe’s most common planets. But can we really say that? Could it not be that smaller planets like earth are just so much less likely to be detected?
Also happy thanksgiving! Canadian here, I think we have ours in October cuz it’s miserable by November haha. Where I live in Saskatchewan it hit -29 celcius two mornings ago (-21 f). 🥶
For me November is about my birthday and whitetail deer hunting season :)
Just in time for a car ride 🙌🏽
Thank You
While unlikely, one answer to why we don't see time travelers from the future is because maybe we are the first? Or at least the first in the local area of the universe? I dunno. Time travel is weird!
Or our time period is simply not interesting enough to visit.
Or maybe all those UFOs/ UAPs ARE the time travelers. ;)
cheers John nothing on utube or NZ tv on monday!
Thanks !
I could listen to him reading a car manual, or directions for assembly of furniture.... lol.... what a voice
Jabba's little buddy was called Salacious Crumb.
Just bought Supermind for my dad for Christmas. Going to be tough resisting thumbing it with my pepperoni laced fingers before I gift it to him 😂
Love this show ! Thank you ! :3
Jabba's pet's name was Salacious Crumb, he was the friend we all need.
Car Salesman: **slaps roof of car**
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