Happy NY buddy, and thank you so much for another lesson. We can't wait to see your liquid fueled motor with turbo pumps & cooling the nozzle via fuel. :) I have virtually no frame of reference for this subject ... I'd bet you were tempted to set up a scale to quantify force but; maybe setup was a bit onerous..? The exhaust looks like it travels ~2 feet..? The gas doesn't [appear] to travel 'fast' ..? (slowed replay is probably warping my perception; I'm guessing the motors last ~1-2s..? How fast is the gas being expelled..?
More like "briskly walk". The walk of a pyrotechnician with reasonable, but not full, confidence in what might happen. Of someone who has lit a few fuses and seen a few things.
I'm sure everyone would agree to this💡 If this man was the teacher, teaching any subject whatsoever in any school, It would've been a delightful happy and easy experience learning whatever he was teaching because he's so in-depth with EVERYTHING he explains! Even the tone of his voice says "I'm patiently here to teach you how to do this in a way a baby would understand because i care" LOVE IT! LOVE IT! LOVE IT! Thank you Sir!💘👍👍👍
As a kid I was involved in a rocketry club. We used Estes rockets and Motors. Really enjoyed doing so but got away from as I grew older. Building and firing off these homemade rocket motors scares the &:;/ out of me after seeing the small motor failure. Great videos though!
After the fact I do agree, but originally I did not see the need for I having experience in the burning of rocket motors such as those presented; I know how fast they burn, their burning is baked into my head. But if one has not the experience than the massive energy release in real time would be advantageous to be displayed along side the slow-mo footage.
Left me wanting more...I found it puzzling they did so much to make sure things were accurate and scientific, then bore the hole for the engine offset, wonky and full of foreign lube.
The best video on TH-cam. From presentation to information, this has it all. You don't treat us like idiots, but you explain everything clearly and carefully, not just the how, but the why, and from details to possibilities. Well done. Thank you.
It seems to me that slow-motion footage is best paired sparingly with realtime footage. With no realtime context, the slow-motion rocket burning footage is kind of uninteresting despite all of the interesting things that go on during the burn. The Slow Mo Guys and the Hydraulic Press Channel seem to have figured out a good process for showcasing slow-motion footage. I don't suggest copying them though, because I'm certain you could do better!
This channel is second to none for quality content! Already got the parts ordered for my first home made rocket engine. (I'm an engineer so only a 49% chance of blowing my fingers off). But seriously, thank you for the inspiration.
Based on the 1.5s burn for the store bought rocket, the video should be sped up about 8x for normal speed. Might be off a little here, but you are able to get a much better sense of the time these rockets burn.
Remarkably well researched for amateur rocketry. Way back in the mid '60's I made amateur rockets. Estes existed even then, and amazingly, that green fuse that he uses -- we had then!! One thing I figured out is that you want reliable fuse, so ALWAYS buy professional fuse, never make your own. I also used to make my own flash powder, and it is fun, as he shows. I always used ammonium perchlorate for the oxidizer for rockets. I used rubbery stuff, made from polypropylene glycol, toluene diisocyanate, and a tricky surfactant for the fuel / binder. Solid propellant rockets are the way to go for amateurs, since pumps and lines and toxic chemicals or cryogenic chemicals are out of reach for amateurs. Making fiberglass cases was difficult.This was fun and informational. Kudos to Tech Ingredients. If any of you want to ACTUALLY do this, you need to watch a channel like this.
I love these rocket motors. Thank you kind of random. But mine are made with pvc. Here's an innovation I've made: heat the edges of the pipe, then round them in to hold the nozzle. Instead of cat litter, pound in cement, just 1cm is enough. Drill the usual hole, maybe flare it, then keep it moist to set the cement. Putting it in water right away dissolves the cement. Moist paper towels in a bag, then submersion work best. The casing is then drastically lighter and stronger. We've reused 3, only 1 failed of those. It looked like the space shuttle disaster, flaring pieces of grain rising in parabolic arcs after a loud explosion. Maybe 400 feet up. Those are the ones you remember:)
I got interested in rocketry recently and learned about why rocket science is so hard. Not sure if anyone noticed but the exhaust of the Estes rocket motor was pretty efficient, most of the propellent was shooting out in the same direction while the motors they created had a greater spread on them. This isn't a knock on Tech Ingredients but shows how hard it is to design an efficient rocket.
@@frogz I've never heard of people vacuuming KNSU grains (what he's making) because melting the mixture on the stove already removes most of the air bubbles. Vacuuming APCP grains is much more common, but that's because it's dry mixed in a mixer instead of being melted over the stove.
Commercial model rocket engines typically use black powder as their propellent. BP burns differently and looks different than the propellent mixes he cooked up.
People have already covered the “I want to know how much thrust.” So I’ll simply say, I’ve thoroughly enjoyed your videos and look forward to seeing more from you in the future. Fascinating stuff. You’ve earned yourself another subscriber.
had to rewind to see the intro, it's pretty good, pretty basic but no one even does the basics!!! follows the old addage of keep it simple stupid or KISS perfectly, just like you can make a really good steak with salt pepper garlic and onion without all of these fancy steak sauces and spice mixes
"We're going to light the fuse and run like hell..." This is definitely my kind of channel and am happy I found it. From the previous video I learned great things about the fuel and learned that the recipe I have been using for decades can be improved significantly. Thanks again, and keep on keepin' on! Cheers!
@@GodzillaGoesGaga Only if it operates in the thermal band. For a high def one with the dynamic range of rocket exhaust, that would be a pricey investment.
I have built some some solid rocket motors and some low powered hybrid rocket engines in the past. I can't explain how excited I am for your video about hybrid rocket motors!
DAMMIT, I WAS JUST ABOUT TO GO DO SOMETHING, now i cant move for 11 minutes and 35 seconds, assuming i only watch this once thanks again, your channel is awesome, congrats on 500k in 2020!!!
I am not an expert , but I have been building solid rocket motors for years . here are some general rules I have found to be helpful when building core burner type motors , 1st , make the propellant burn as slow as possible , slightly fuel rich just like a internal combustion engine . 2nd. the nozzle should be about 1/3 the diameter of the propellant grain . 3rd. keep increasing the length of the motor until the they start to explode then back off from there , 2% failure rate is acceptable . 4th. make sure you ignite the motor at the very back of the propellant grain other wise they tend to end burn and don't reach max pressure . hope this helps . be safe , great show !
You can tell how much testing really goes into these mixtures because the store bought company has their burn nailed down. The D motor looked buttery smooth
This project was particularly near and dear to me, since I have been working on a prototype cyclical detonation engine for about 10 years. Looking at your deflagration engine construction was very informative and gave me a lot of ideas for future modifications to my next MK, I think I'm on about MK200 or so? Keep up the good work, can't wait to see more in 2021!
@@krzysztofbroda5376 I actually get 30-40 seconds at 60hz with a single chamber design, but the rotating detonation waves are inconsistent and only after extensive research did I realize that my pressure and injection methods were subpar. Switching to a multi-chamber design, with, for example, 6-8 independent tubes with pistons forcing the fuel/air mixture to compress before being detonated out the end seems to be a way better idea, and produce way more ISP for its size.
@@krzysztofbroda5376 indeed! Something like that, I've even messed around with some glassworking torch tips that use a similar design to that. Some turboannular designs are quite promising.
@@shadowedmoonchannel im also working on a jet engine. A pulsejet with a piston compressor for efficiency. Due to special arrangement of air inlet ports it should have very high airflow per frontal area, and therefore power per frontal area, comparable to a turbojet. Next income im buying a leafblower and coke and a refractory lid to make an aluminium/steel melting hole furnace. Will try to cast it
Great video. Very helpful for viewers from the 99% of countries in the world who use standard units, that you mostly stay away from hands and feet and such stuff to measure things.
This might sound like an odd suggestion, but your rockets might benefit from some "dead space" between the grain and the nozzle. You're getting a lot of incomplete combustion products in the exhaust (the large amount of sparks) which could benefit from more time before getting to the nozzle.
In a solid motor, the dead space gets pretty big pretty fast. That's not the causative issue for the sparkys. I think the Al grain size was too big. Should use something MUCH finer. I also think the nozzles were way too big. The exhaust velocity seemed quite anemic, which would mean that you'd throw less burned bits because the chamber pressure was below optimal.
@@fromagefrizzbizz9377 As I understand it, the deadspace stays constant, since the propellant burns from the inside out (radially). There is almost no space between the bottom of the propellant and the nozzle. Also, his rocket propellant didn't use aluminum, except on the fuse to ignite it.
@@Nuovoswiss the bottom end of the grain regresses just like the core and the sparks should have lessened with your idea. Which they didn’t. I could have sworn he was using Al, but maybe I got confused, but either way there was at least a grain size, chamber size/nozzle size, or bad mix proportion issue as well. Throwing chunks always leads to the possibility of chamber rupture, which is serious bad juju. Hybrids are freaking cool, because the fuel can be just about anything that can burn. Flights have been made with candle wax, asphalt. rolled up newspaper and dried cow patties. But to work you must be sure it won’t throw chunks and plug the nozzle. Fortunately with most hybrids you simply cannot over pressure the chamber, because it inherently stops the oxidizer flow.
As a teenager I built sugar rockets which worked quite well in package tape housings and wood putty nozzle. In one of Estes notes I believe there were plans for a motor tester where the rocket motor was pointed downward (exhaust was vertical) and suspended on leverage (spring )attached to a pen touching a clockwork driven drum with graph paper. It would trace out the motor’s thrust curve. On the cantilever shown in this video a load cell could also plot out the motor’s thrust curve . Just a thought.
It looked like the exhaust from the first burn was leaving at an angle. It would be neat to see a test stand that could measure torque as well as thrust during the burn.
angular momentum might be hard to measure without on board accelerometers. If they use a test stand it can measure force but torque would be inhibited by the stand itself.
@@WmSrite-pi8ck strain gauges for thrust and torque, they detect the force applied. Accelerometers require the thing you're testing *moves* - which is a bad thing in a test stand. Strain gauges are a lot simpler/cheaper anyway.
@@garyha2650 In a proper "core hole" design, the hole should be as deep as the fuel grain, otherwise, the thrust goes wonky - without the core hole, the grain burns much slower.
I used to love rockets as a kid and since i never really grew up, Fun stuff. Estes were the engines then. Stuff was expensive. would love to play with it again.
These videos make science so much more understandable and interesting! Makes one want to do some of these activities under professional supervision!! Yall deserve to be in text books 100%
Thank you so much for these lessons. They are very informative and fun to watch. I needed to figure out if my nozzle was going to be too narrow for my casing and now I know. Ten stars on these videos.
This and the previous video are right in the sweet spot of what I spend the most time on these days. About 4 months ago I got (back) into model rocketry with an eye toward high power. I'm currently building a LOC Graduator. It can be used for an HP level one cert but I'm going to build a LOC IV to attempt that. I've been to a number of launches at the 4 Corners Rocketry Club site in NW NM. I think most of the other members (small club) are L1 or L1 / L2 certified. I usually set up my 600mm f4 lens on a Canon 1DMKIV about 150' away, wait for the countdown, guess at the delay, then hold the shutter button down in time to catch the launch. It's pretty wild to see a 10' long 6" diameter rocket leave the pad in 1-2 frames max. My high speed frame rate is 1/100th of your high speed camera (10fps) but it's still interesting to watch the light sequence progress. I spent the holidays workin on perfecting my black powder comps. I make the charcoal myself using Pecan limb sheds. I have about 20 Pecan trees in my yard (in TX) and it turns out Pecan makes fast BP. Now to figure out how to make D black powders so I can launch Estes rockets without waiting for a motor order to arrive and then move on the G and larger composite motors for the big rockets. I thought your were going to have a load cell similar to what Elemental Maker uses to test his motors. He lives in your "general area"...
The reason why your motor exploded is that you should keep the ratio of (propellant core area / nozzle throat area) between 2-3 at the beginning of the burning. Propellant core area is the cross-sectional area of inner circle (the void). It should be between 2-3, you narrowed it further and it caused an increase in the motor pressure yielding explosion. Thanks for your rocket videos btw, they're pretty educatory. I am waiting for more videos about rockets :)
Hi, last night we finished a couple more of our motors and if you're interested in the process of building your own rocket motors check out our previous video on the topic posted a couple days ago. Today we going to go outside and test these motors and one of them and one of the - things about living in New England in December is that when you test large flammable devices we have the advantage of about a foot of heavy wet snow covering just about every surface of our property The downside is that Alex and I are gonna have to go outside an have to film in a foot of heavy wet snow, so that's gonna be a bit of a treat. Before we get outside what I'd like to do is briefly give you an idea of what it means to just try out our rocket motors so basically the thrust it's gonna be able to produce and for amateur rocket motors there is a accepted letter code that is applied to each motor based on the total amount of impulse it generates. In the first vid what we did is we went through the idea of what's called specific impulse of the amount of power or punch that a particular fuel would generate. The total motor impulse is a product of how potent that fuel is and how much of that duel you have. And there's a little bit of a correction factor based on just how effective a build or combustion chamber you design your nozzle. And in the amateur community the very smallest nozzles, the very smallest engines start out with the a or alpha. And that represents a total motor impulse of 2 1/2 N per 1s or about half a pound per second. (1:49min) As you move down the letter code to b c d e each time you go down one letter code you double the total impulse of the engine, so a b Motor would have a max thrust or max total impulse of 5N/s a C motor 10N/s and this D Motor which I have right here represents 20N per one sec. Now it could burn fast. It could have a very fast regression rate so it could burn in half a second and may make say 40N of Thrust but only for half a second or burn much longer and produce maybe 10N for 2 sec. But it's the total product that is represented at the letter code. The second set of numbers there the - and 12 represents the AVG. Thrust of the motor and then that again relates to the regression rate, how fast that propellant inside the motor is burning (2:46 /I hope I can help you with this and I am sorry for any spelling mistakes, I'll try to transcribe the whole vid)
And because a rocket motor is not a square wave it doesn't start at 0 and go instantly to full throttle maintaining exactly that amount of thrust and then instantly drop to zero, it's more of a curve. This will give you a rough idea of how long the motor would burn so with a 12N AVG thrust and about 20N Max total impulse this is probably going to but for about a second and a half at all that power. The second number you see there the -5 represents a delay charge so a small fuze or small burning component that once the booster has fired or once the engine has fired will slowly move through - piech of this plug and then hit a charge and discharge and essentially blow the end of the motor right of off the end of the far end away from the nozzle. (3:42) This is what propels a parachute or whatever recovery system to allow the rocket to drift slowly back to earth. In some cases you have no delay there is no discharge at the far end that is what's true of all of these engines here and so The only way that we would characterise these engines at this point is just going to be amount of fuel and type of fuel. D engines are about the biggest engine that you can buy commonly most hobbyshops that will sell tickets have. (4:08) You can get online e and even f Motors depending on hazmat restrictions that where ordering from. The smallest motor that we built is basically an F motor. This would be about the biggest motor you could legally purchase and that represents 80N/s so pretty powerful motor. The larger motors that we built here are 4 times the size and so instead of being an F motor they're H motors, these are powerful motors with an total impulse of 320N/s or about 65lbs/s so these are very potent motors. Now if you look over here (4:55) where I have the Hybrid motor you don't even wanna think about the letter code that applies to this thing, this is way beyond these other motors here. And so just to give you an Idea of how it actually is I should say you're not to think about it but now you're going to think about it. It's like saying don't think about a pink elephant, well get into that in a future video. (5:15) now there are a couple different ways that you can ignite such an engine. Today we're just going to be using some fuse, and we're gonna augment this fuse with some of the pyrotechnic flash powder that we mixed up in our last video, so if you're interested in how we made this take a look at our previous video. (5:32) Now another alternative to using these is to use what's called an ematch or a bridge wire igniter. Effectively what these have is a very very tiny piece of nichrohme wire across these two conductors and if you put about an amp of current in here from a battery this will riefly heat up to red hot and ignite a little glob of. Pyrotechnic mixture which can then be used to ignite a rocket into which you insert it. (6:02)
It's a convenient way to do it and a lot of higher power rocketry uses it cause you can have very very long stand offs. Today we're just gonna have fun with a normal fuse and we'll run like hell so it should be a lot of fun. Lastly how were gonna set this up is youll see the apparatus once we get outside and it's pretty straightforward so we should be able to figure out how it works and how we did that. (6:26) Each of the motors is gonna be mounted in little brackets that retain it and allows it to be mounted to a beam that stands out the back of our test rig and as a retaining plate here that keeps the motor compressed in here but allows us to adjust for different length motors or allows us to adapt to different diameter motors so that we can test all of our different motors on the same setup. So that's pretty much it lets get outside and let's start some fires.(6:52)
No talking until 10:38 So if you're interested in this camera we used for this slow motion shoot I did a video a few weeks ago (10:45) about the specifications, how to use it some of the lenses for it so if you wanna see anything about it check out that video.(10:56) and I wanna say that if you're interested in these rocket engines were gonna do more videos on this topic and we're gonna use this camera for a lot more high energy experiments in the future so I wanna thank you very much for watching and if your interested in this kind of material please (11:07) SUBSCRIBE to the channel because we're trying to get to 500000 by the end of this year, so hit subscribe. And in the case I wish you happy new year stay safe and we'll see you soon! (11:22) ---> outro, no talking
You are going to need much more thorough ignition for those motors. Your ignition is way too slow, deforming any kind of thrust curve prediction you might make. I suggest using a pyrogen on the surface of the grain. Looking forward to the hybrid motor! PS: If you want to discuss anything in detail about rocket motors, feel free to shoot me a private message, and we can talk thoroughly over email.
Agreed! I was very surprised he didn't have way to measure thrust in these tests. Hopefully he adds this feature in the next video. @Tech Ingredients I'd be very willing to help you with the design and programming of this sort of device.
I truly admire how simple, yet fascinating you make everything sound. Your knowledge and the range of fields you cover are eclectic and mesmerizing. You manage turning complex topics one would find in a textbook, into something feasible and accessible to pretty much everyone. I’m a fan of both your method and the topics you cover, I’m looking forward to seeing what you come up with next!
"Now the precise chemical make-up of spinach can be affected by the specific mineral content of the soil. For our fusion reactor we want the highest concentration of heavy metals possible so we prepared twelve different soil samples in which we've grown our own spinach and then analyzed their composition using a bio-reduction process, which we'll discuss later."
I watched a TH-cam video on how to create metallic potassium from bananas. I immediately wondered if you could build a hybrid rocket using hydrogen peroxide and metallic potassium. Because making things explode is fun.
Just discovered your channel. I have been looking for a long time trying to find good technical hobby instruction and demonstration. Your engineering and build quality are a refreshing change from the usual cooky inventor channel.
When i was a kid i hooked a few D motors to an RC speed boat i had and sent it off across a lake. Amazingly it didn't go airborne or submarine. Skimmed clear across, up the other bank, and into a parking lot. Thats when i ran like hell.
Love the rocket series!!! But I was fully expecting someone has already pointed out that solid rocket motors are lit from the top >====(here)>, and not from the bottom >(here)=====> . You are losing a lot of power by the flame front burning against the pressure wave. Also the last second is usually the punchiest, where it's clear that your motors dwindle to almost pathetic at the end. Furthermore, the shape of the grain (star vs circle) provide simple control of regression rate, it's not as simple as saying there is no way to manage the thrust profile of solids.
Cored engines (such as these) are top lit, but end burners are - by necessity - bottom lit. I'd certainly love for someone with similar production quality to do a series on different core styles. There's just as much to learn there as there is in the chemical composition of the propellent.
The little future Easter eggs you put in your videos keep me coming back again and again. Your presentation of literally everything (including the camera shield) is perfect as usual.
Happy New Year to you and your family as well. I had worked at a propulsion company years ago. We built from small initiator motors, ejection seat motors, the 2.75 rockets for Apache helicopters and others plus the 10.75 F.L.U.F. drone launch motors. Testing was my favorite. When the nozzles are overcome by thrust in these 4130 steel body motors, it was the cast nozzles that took the brunt. I've seen the nozzles turn inside out from the forces with little cracking. Fun stuff. Thanks!
This guy is a good communicator! Bet he was/is a high school teacher or college professor. Good video, headed over to google to search pink elephants now...
I would love to see a video where you do a tour of your workshop(s), your tools, equipment, consumables etc. Your channel is awesome, thank you for the videos.
I'm glad you only had one rapid unscheduled disassembly. Please review my comment on your previous video: the 'sparks' you're getting in your exhaust plume are signs that your fuel grain is fracturing as it burns. You're ejecting chunks of fuel. Not only does this mean you're losing a lot of efficiency, but it also means you're running your fuel grain under stresses it can't handle safely. This is a known issue with a known solution, not something where you need to poke around in the weeds and re-invent.
My memory is hazy, but I remember reading something about shaping the propellant charge into a prism shape with a polygonal cross section to increase the surface area, and thus creating more power in a shorter time.
I would like Tech Ingredients to do some basic failure analysis on the narrow nozzle because the tube appeared to be intact, but we could not see the off camera part that continued to burn. Then rebuild it stronger because it appeared to be the best one with the most potential and we learn more when a failure happens than when things go perfectly. Thank you.
If I remember correctly the ejection charge can also be used for lighting a second stage if done properly. Those were always tricky to get to work right.
Love the attention to detail in your videos, so as a tiny piece of constructive criticism for the next round of rocket firings, please consider placing a fan behind the cameras, so that the smoke doesn’t ruin the shots. To understand the wind, one must become the wind.
As someone that has been building and flying my own APCP motors for the last 8 years, I'm impressed with how you make candy motors. They are done much better than most youtube rocket bomber. After a college team showed up at our launch and wanted to fly candy motors they claimed were G and I size, they turned out to be more like E and G, and the flights were disastrous and dangerous. Watching your videos, I have serious doubts your motors were actually F and H sized. Without recorded pressure curves or at least thrust curves to measure burn times vs. pressure or thrust, I would not take your word for their thrust without documentation. I think that building an instrumented test stand could actually be a cool video. What I find in your video to be very amateur and dangerous, is using fuse for lighting rocket motors. That hasn't been allowed since the '60s. You're over half a century behind the times. There are many ways to make your own motor starters that use the required, safer, electrical ignition systems. They are much safer, easier, and in many cases cheaper then using fuse. I make motor starters for H to M sized motors that cost me pennies each. BTW, did you use the 100 ft. minimum safe distance per NFPA 1127, which is state law in most state? You obviously didn't use the required remote electrical ignition system which means your were probably illegal in your state if they have adapted NFPA 1122 & 1127 as part of their fire codes. Please stop showing people with no knowledge of model rocketry how to endanger themselves with fuse ignition of rocket motors.
I like to use ematches to ignite my sugar motors and an inexpensive fireworks firing system. Electronic ignition allows greater distance from the motor and ignites fuel at the head end. Ignition at the top gives greater efficiency and thrust. Great video series!
Fascinating..... ...not quite the kinds of chemicals I'd personally handle in my kitchen. But the presentation and discourse is refreshing as always. Keep up the great work.
Very nice burn tests. I'm just getting into the idea of model rocketry for my grandson and I to have some projects to do together and we can both learn new things.
I don't even look anymore what the subject of the video is. EVERY video from TechIngridients gets a "Like" automatically. And EVERY video from TechIngridients deserves a "Like". This channel shows that technology can have a political dimension. That technology can be part of freedom. Please keep it up! Greetings from Germany.
The upper charge can also be used to ignite the 2nd stage on multi stage rockets, or to launch Jacks to make a fireworks display.. never done that before...lol
I was anticipating that the trailer would be propelled down the road, take out the fence, followed by trees, and a fire trail trailing off in the distance. How fun!
yea i make 2" pvc rockets here in Thailand. i use 65-35+1%iron oxide and 2-3% sulfur. it is a fast burn with a 25mm nozzle made from bamboo. here they do it like racing. it is fashioned like a bottle rocket and it is measured from lift off to set down ( longer times being better ) so how your rocket is balanced as well as how high it goes is important. no add on or streamers allowed. balancing the rocket for max drag and slow decent is an art. but i love it it is so fun. i had a test rocket blow up 1 meter away and the wife now calls me crazy. lol
Hi from overseas to the east... Just wanted to thank you for your efforts and wish the both of you a happy 2021! Nice to see you, the younger guy, participating!
Two suggestions, an elapsed time display showing the total burn-time would be nice and something that would display how much force (ounces, pounds, or grams) that the motors exert on the rail.
Your projects and your shop really raise the bar for what I hope to do myself one day. Awesome video!
I agree, raze the (state) BAR.
Happy NY buddy, and thank you so much for another lesson.
We can't wait to see your liquid fueled motor with turbo pumps & cooling the nozzle via fuel. :)
I have virtually no frame of reference for this subject ...
I'd bet you were tempted to set up a scale to quantify force but; maybe setup was a bit onerous..?
The exhaust looks like it travels ~2 feet..? The gas doesn't [appear] to travel 'fast' ..?
(slowed replay is probably warping my perception; I'm guessing the motors last ~1-2s..?
How fast is the gas being expelled..?
"We're gonna light the fuze and run like hell, so it should be a lot of fun."
One reason I watch.
More like "briskly walk". The walk of a pyrotechnician with reasonable, but not full, confidence in what might happen. Of someone who has lit a few fuses and seen a few things.
@@galfisk we are pyros! dum, dum dum dum, dum dum dum
That's the Yankee version of what us Southerners say.... you know, "Hey y'all, watch THIS!!" :D
@@galfisk don't wanna risk falling in that snow, the time to get back up leaves you in the danger zone if you slipped.
Thank you for being one of the few people who post genuine, quality content. I always enjoy each one of your videos to their fullest extent
One of maybe 5 times total that I've actually listened when someone says "please subscribe".
The perfect combination of education and explosions.
Would love to see the engine connected to a load cell or force gauge to monitor force during the burn! Congrats on the 500k, very well deserved!
That would be awesome, especially if we could get a force-time curve.
If you look closely you can see that the support of the rockets is on rails, so he will gets the measurement :)
I'm fairly sure it was, there's a curly wire in the background, looking forward to the thrust data
Yes, and a pressure tap on the the motor itself so we can see the combustion pressure curve.
I'm sure everyone would agree to this💡 If this man was the teacher, teaching any subject whatsoever in any school, It would've been a delightful happy and easy experience learning whatever he was teaching because he's so in-depth with EVERYTHING he explains! Even the tone of his voice says "I'm patiently here to teach you how to do this in a way a baby would understand because i care" LOVE IT! LOVE IT! LOVE IT! Thank you Sir!💘👍👍👍
Great. I’d love to see force-time graphs for these motors.
As a kid I was involved in a rocketry club. We used Estes rockets and Motors. Really enjoyed doing so but got away from as I grew older. Building and firing off these homemade rocket motors scares the &:;/ out of me after seeing the small motor failure. Great videos though!
hey neat new high speed camera but you forgot to include any real time footage :/
After the fact I do agree, but originally I did not see the need for I having experience in the burning of rocket motors such as those presented; I know how fast they burn, their burning is baked into my head. But if one has not the experience than the massive energy release in real time would be advantageous to be displayed along side the slow-mo footage.
I agree with Very
@@garyha2650 YES👍
As a Teacher, I found myself very impressed at your professionalism and detail in explaining things. Thank you very much for sharing.
Thanks
Really looking forward to seeing that hybrid motor!
That FATHER to SON look and vice versa, near the end of the video was GOLDEN!!! So inspiring, so much love! Thanks for sharing!
Waaah no ejection charge shot on the estes D. Good video, thanx!
Left me wanting more...I found it puzzling they did so much to make sure things were accurate and scientific, then bore the hole for the engine offset, wonky and full of foreign lube.
Anything ‘high energy’ from this channel is enormous fun and spectacular.
The best video on TH-cam. From presentation to information, this has it all. You don't treat us like idiots, but you explain everything clearly and carefully, not just the how, but the why, and from details to possibilities. Well done. Thank you.
It seems to me that slow-motion footage is best paired sparingly with realtime footage. With no realtime context, the slow-motion rocket burning footage is kind of uninteresting despite all of the interesting things that go on during the burn. The Slow Mo Guys and the Hydraulic Press Channel seem to have figured out a good process for showcasing slow-motion footage. I don't suggest copying them though, because I'm certain you could do better!
Good way to practice a longer attention span
And slow down the audio by about 2 or 3x.. It's still 'faked' but it sounds more like it matches.
An overlay showing the thrust and timestamp would be super cool.
I agree, I really wanted to see real time videos of each motor firing along with the slo-mo.
Maybe add the timestamp the chronos captures as video overlay, that would help to understand how slow time is.
This channel is second to none for quality content! Already got the parts ordered for my first home made rocket engine. (I'm an engineer so only a 49% chance of blowing my fingers off).
But seriously, thank you for the inspiration.
Please include normal speed footage. Slow-mo rocket is just a torch.
Or at least tell us at what speed the video is shown... Thanks and I truly enjoy your videos.
With Raw sound too
Based on the 1.5s burn for the store bought rocket, the video should be sped up about 8x for normal speed. Might be off a little here, but you are able to get a much better sense of the time these rockets burn.
Remarkably well researched for amateur rocketry. Way back in the mid '60's I made amateur rockets. Estes existed even then, and amazingly, that green fuse that he uses -- we had then!! One thing I figured out is that you want reliable fuse, so ALWAYS buy professional fuse, never make your own. I also used to make my own flash powder, and it is fun, as he shows. I always used ammonium perchlorate for the oxidizer for rockets. I used rubbery stuff, made from polypropylene glycol, toluene diisocyanate, and a tricky surfactant for the fuel / binder. Solid propellant rockets are the way to go for amateurs, since pumps and lines and toxic chemicals or cryogenic chemicals are out of reach for amateurs. Making fiberglass cases was difficult.This was fun and informational. Kudos to Tech Ingredients. If any of you want to ACTUALLY do this, you need to watch a channel like this.
"pink elephant".. that was an elegant statement... regarding the thing that we'll think about
I love these rocket motors. Thank you kind of random.
But mine are made with pvc. Here's an innovation I've made: heat the edges of the pipe, then round them in to hold the nozzle.
Instead of cat litter, pound in cement, just 1cm is enough. Drill the usual hole, maybe flare it, then keep it moist to set the cement.
Putting it in water right away dissolves the cement. Moist paper towels in a bag, then submersion work best.
The casing is then drastically lighter and stronger. We've reused 3, only 1 failed of those. It looked like the space shuttle disaster, flaring pieces of grain rising in parabolic arcs after a loud explosion. Maybe 400 feet up.
Those are the ones you remember:)
Great video. Though it's a shame we didn't get to see a quick clip of each firing in real-time, before the slow motion.
I got interested in rocketry recently and learned about why rocket science is so hard. Not sure if anyone noticed but the exhaust of the Estes rocket motor was pretty efficient, most of the propellent was shooting out in the same direction while the motors they created had a greater spread on them. This isn't a knock on Tech Ingredients but shows how hard it is to design an efficient rocket.
Really, it's not.
Great vid, the burn in the home made rockets didn’t look as smooth, is that just down to the mixing of the fuel?
mixing and grain density, maybe vacuuming the rockets as they are drying to get a tighter grain and removing extra space between them would help?
From what I have read in the past, it tends to be a problem with sorbitol when you run a low chamber pressure
I think its mostly because he just picked a random throat size for the nozzle, leading to a low chamber pressure.
@@frogz I've never heard of people vacuuming KNSU grains (what he's making) because melting the mixture on the stove already removes most of the air bubbles. Vacuuming APCP grains is much more common, but that's because it's dry mixed in a mixer instead of being melted over the stove.
Commercial model rocket engines typically use black powder as their propellent. BP burns differently and looks different than the propellent mixes he cooked up.
People have already covered the “I want to know how much thrust.”
So I’ll simply say, I’ve thoroughly enjoyed your videos and look forward to seeing more from you in the future. Fascinating stuff. You’ve earned yourself another subscriber.
Thanks!
That edit in the intro bringing in the graphic with the explosion
was phenomenal.
One of the best I've ever seen on youtube.
had to rewind to see the intro, it's pretty good, pretty basic but no one even does the basics!!!
follows the old addage of keep it simple stupid or KISS perfectly, just like you can make a really good steak with salt pepper garlic and onion without all of these fancy steak sauces and spice mixes
"We're going to light the fuse and run like hell..." This is definitely my kind of channel and am happy I found it. From the previous video I learned great things about the fuel and learned that the recipe I have been using for decades can be improved significantly. Thanks again, and keep on keepin' on! Cheers!
Would love to see an infrared camera take on these engines.
Spoiler: the exhaust is warm, and red; the snow is cold, and blue.
@@cdanea or does he meant temperature indicators?) Maybe not so important which one produce more heat but... it's work!
@@cdanea You would get a better view of the exhaust gasses and the thrust pattern since you would be able to see through the smoke!
@@GodzillaGoesGaga
Only if it operates in the thermal band. For a high def one with the dynamic range of rocket exhaust, that would be a pricey investment.
@@erc9468 Interesting. Didn't know they were so specific.
"Ignite the fuse and run like hell..." Exactly the way I used to do rocketry! 😂
Yep, those were the days alright!
The payoff after learning always makes the hours worth it. Thanks for the episode~
I have built some some solid rocket motors and some low powered hybrid rocket engines in the past.
I can't explain how excited I am for your video about hybrid rocket motors!
DAMMIT, I WAS JUST ABOUT TO GO DO SOMETHING, now i cant move for 11 minutes and 35 seconds, assuming i only watch this once
thanks again, your channel is awesome, congrats on 500k in 2020!!!
I am not an expert , but I have been building solid rocket motors for years . here are some general rules I have found to be helpful when building core burner type motors , 1st , make the propellant burn as slow as possible , slightly fuel rich just like a internal combustion engine . 2nd. the nozzle should be about 1/3 the diameter of the propellant grain . 3rd. keep increasing the length of the motor until the they start to explode then back off from there , 2% failure rate is acceptable . 4th. make sure you ignite the motor at the very back of the propellant grain other wise they tend to end burn and don't reach max pressure . hope this helps . be safe , great show !
I'm never bored watching your videos. In fact, I'm jealous!
You can tell how much testing really goes into these mixtures because the store bought company has their burn nailed down. The D motor looked buttery smooth
This project was particularly near and dear to me, since I have been working on a prototype cyclical detonation engine for about 10 years. Looking at your deflagration engine construction was very informative and gave me a lot of ideas for future modifications to my next MK, I think I'm on about MK200 or so? Keep up the good work, can't wait to see more in 2021!
have you achieved operation for like a few seconds?
@@krzysztofbroda5376 I actually get 30-40 seconds at 60hz with a single chamber design, but the rotating detonation waves are inconsistent and only after extensive research did I realize that my pressure and injection methods were subpar. Switching to a multi-chamber design, with, for example, 6-8 independent tubes with pistons forcing the fuel/air mixture to compress before being detonated out the end seems to be a way better idea, and produce way more ISP for its size.
@@shadowedmoonchannel something akin to a cannular combustor huh?
@@krzysztofbroda5376 indeed! Something like that, I've even messed around with some glassworking torch tips that use a similar design to that. Some turboannular designs are quite promising.
@@shadowedmoonchannel im also working on a jet engine. A pulsejet with a piston compressor for efficiency. Due to special arrangement of air inlet ports it should have very high airflow per frontal area, and therefore power per frontal area, comparable to a turbojet. Next income im buying a leafblower and coke and a refractory lid to make an aluminium/steel melting hole furnace. Will try to cast it
Great video.
Very helpful for viewers from the 99% of countries in the world who use standard units, that you mostly stay away from hands and feet and such stuff to measure things.
Rule Britannia!
This might sound like an odd suggestion, but your rockets might benefit from some "dead space" between the grain and the nozzle. You're getting a lot of incomplete combustion products in the exhaust (the large amount of sparks) which could benefit from more time before getting to the nozzle.
In a solid motor, the dead space gets pretty big pretty fast. That's not the causative issue for the sparkys. I think the Al grain size was too big. Should use something MUCH finer.
I also think the nozzles were way too big. The exhaust velocity seemed quite anemic, which would mean that you'd throw less burned bits because the chamber pressure was below optimal.
@@fromagefrizzbizz9377 As I understand it, the deadspace stays constant, since the propellant burns from the inside out (radially). There is almost no space between the bottom of the propellant and the nozzle. Also, his rocket propellant didn't use aluminum, except on the fuse to ignite it.
@@Nuovoswiss the bottom end of the grain regresses just like the core and the sparks should have lessened with your idea. Which they didn’t.
I could have sworn he was using Al, but maybe I got confused, but either way there was at least a grain size, chamber size/nozzle size, or bad mix proportion issue as well. Throwing chunks always leads to the possibility of chamber rupture, which is serious bad juju.
Hybrids are freaking cool, because the fuel can be just about anything that can burn. Flights have been made with candle wax, asphalt. rolled up newspaper and dried cow patties. But to work you must be sure it won’t throw chunks and plug the nozzle. Fortunately with most hybrids you simply cannot over pressure the chamber, because it inherently stops the oxidizer flow.
As a teenager I built sugar rockets which worked quite well in package tape housings and wood putty nozzle.
In one of Estes notes I believe there were plans for a motor tester where the rocket motor was pointed downward (exhaust was vertical) and suspended on leverage (spring )attached to a pen touching a clockwork driven drum with graph paper. It would trace out the motor’s thrust curve.
On the cantilever shown in this video a load cell could also plot out the motor’s thrust curve . Just a thought.
It looked like the exhaust from the first burn was leaving at an angle. It would be neat to see a test stand that could measure torque as well as thrust during the burn.
angular momentum might be hard to measure without on board accelerometers. If they use a test stand it can measure force but torque would be inhibited by the stand itself.
Prolly the channel hole was off center.
I really thought that channel would be only deep enough to hold a fuse
@@WmSrite-pi8ck strain gauges for thrust and torque, they detect the force applied. Accelerometers require the thing you're testing *moves* - which is a bad thing in a test stand. Strain gauges are a lot simpler/cheaper anyway.
@@garyha2650 In a proper "core hole" design, the hole should be as deep as the fuel grain, otherwise, the thrust goes wonky - without the core hole, the grain burns much slower.
I used to make my rocket fuel from ammoniumperchlorate aluminum and liquid curable pvc as a binder. Keep up the good work. Facinating !!!!
Congrats on 500K.
One of the best channels on TH-cam, without doubt.
And all without selling out to stupid yt click bait temptation or moronic juvenile acting... Y'all are ALL cattle, no hat! ;)
I used to love rockets as a kid and since i never really grew up, Fun stuff. Estes were the engines then. Stuff was expensive. would love to play with it again.
what a great way to start the year, watching a tech ingredients video
These videos make science so much more understandable and interesting! Makes one want to do some of these activities under professional supervision!! Yall deserve to be in text books 100%
I’ve been looking forward to this one. Great job, I love your videos
Came for a boom, wasn't disappointed. F motor and narrow nozzle for the win.
"we want to hit 500K by the end of this year" well, congrats on hitting your new year's resolution on the first day.
double or nothing?
That slow burning fuse created small metal balls when it burns and can bounce around in the combustion chamber, makes a launch really exciting.
"We're going to light it, and run like hell." A man after my own heart.
Thank you so much for these lessons. They are very informative and fun to watch.
I needed to figure out if my nozzle was going to be too narrow for my casing and now I know. Ten stars on these videos.
Thanks!
Love everything you guys do, definitely one of the best channels on yt! Congratulations on over 500k subs!
This and the previous video are right in the sweet spot of what I spend the most time on these days. About 4 months ago I got (back) into model rocketry with an eye toward high power. I'm currently building a LOC Graduator. It can be used for an HP level one cert but I'm going to build a LOC IV to attempt that. I've been to a number of launches at the 4 Corners Rocketry Club site in NW NM. I think most of the other members (small club) are L1 or L1 / L2 certified. I usually set up my 600mm f4 lens on a Canon 1DMKIV about 150' away, wait for the countdown, guess at the delay, then hold the shutter button down in time to catch the launch. It's pretty wild to see a 10' long 6" diameter rocket leave the pad in 1-2 frames max. My high speed frame rate is 1/100th of your high speed camera (10fps) but it's still interesting to watch the light sequence progress. I spent the holidays workin on perfecting my black powder comps. I make the charcoal myself using Pecan limb sheds. I have about 20 Pecan trees in my yard (in TX) and it turns out Pecan makes fast BP. Now to figure out how to make D black powders so I can launch Estes rockets without waiting for a motor order to arrive and then move on the G and larger composite motors for the big rockets.
I thought your were going to have a load cell similar to what Elemental Maker uses to test his motors. He lives in your "general area"...
Why was Newton seconds shortend "NT seconds" in stead of the standardized SI system "N s" or "N*s"?
I prefer kings-feet and barley corns myself.
To get to the other side?
@@landrec2 King Edward VII feet ?
Dunno. I'd guess because they want to be unambiguous/suggestive even for Americans who may not be aware of SI units. "N? What's N?"
NT was the abbreviation for Newton. The chart didn't abbreviate Newton seconds, just the word Newton.
The reason why your motor exploded is that you should keep the ratio of (propellant core area / nozzle throat area) between 2-3 at the beginning of the burning. Propellant core area is the cross-sectional area of inner circle (the void). It should be between 2-3, you narrowed it further and it caused an increase in the motor pressure yielding explosion. Thanks for your rocket videos btw, they're pretty educatory. I am waiting for more videos about rockets :)
I am deaf. Please enable automatic CC subtitles so I can turn them on. Thanks.
should be default on all videos, bump for the deaf people!!
Hi, last night we finished a couple more of our motors and if you're interested in the process of building your own rocket motors check out our previous video on the topic posted a couple days ago.
Today we going to go outside and test these motors and one of them and one of the - things about living in New England in December is that when you test large flammable devices we have the advantage of about a foot of heavy wet snow covering just about every surface of our property
The downside is that Alex and I are gonna have to go outside an have to film in a foot of heavy wet snow, so that's gonna be a bit of a treat.
Before we get outside what I'd like to do is briefly give you an idea of what it means to just try out our rocket motors so basically the thrust it's gonna be able to produce and for amateur rocket motors there is a accepted letter code that is applied to each motor based on the total amount of impulse it generates.
In the first vid what we did is we went through the idea of what's called specific impulse of the amount of power or punch that a particular fuel would generate. The total motor impulse is a product of how potent that fuel is and how much of that duel you have.
And there's a little bit of a correction factor based on just how effective a build or combustion chamber you design your nozzle. And in the amateur community the very smallest nozzles, the very smallest engines start out with the a or alpha.
And that represents a total motor impulse of 2 1/2 N per 1s or about half a pound per second. (1:49min)
As you move down the letter code to b c d e each time you go down one letter code you double the total impulse of the engine, so a b Motor would have a max thrust or max total impulse of 5N/s a C motor 10N/s and this D Motor which I have right here represents 20N per one sec. Now it could burn fast. It could have a very fast regression rate so it could burn in half a second and may make say 40N of Thrust but only for half a second or burn much longer and produce maybe 10N for 2 sec. But it's the total product that is represented at the letter code. The second set of numbers there the - and 12 represents the AVG. Thrust of the motor and then that again relates to the regression rate, how fast that propellant inside the motor is burning (2:46 /I hope I can help you with this and I am sorry for any spelling mistakes, I'll try to transcribe the whole vid)
And because a rocket motor is not a square wave it doesn't start at 0 and go instantly to full throttle maintaining exactly that amount of thrust and then instantly drop to zero, it's more of a curve. This will give you a rough idea of how long the motor would burn so with a 12N AVG thrust and about 20N Max total impulse this is probably going to but for about a second and a half at all that power. The second number you see there the -5 represents a delay charge so a small fuze or small burning component that once the booster has fired or once the engine has fired will slowly move through - piech of this plug and then hit a charge and discharge and essentially blow the end of the motor right of off the end of the far end away from the nozzle. (3:42)
This is what propels a parachute or whatever recovery system to allow the rocket to drift slowly back to earth. In some cases you have no delay there is no discharge at the far end that is what's true of all of these engines here and so The only way that we would characterise these engines at this point is just going to be amount of fuel and type of fuel. D engines are about the biggest engine that you can buy commonly most hobbyshops that will sell tickets have. (4:08)
You can get online e and even f Motors depending on hazmat restrictions that where ordering from. The smallest motor that we built is basically an F motor. This would be about the biggest motor you could legally purchase and that represents 80N/s so pretty powerful motor. The larger motors that we built here are 4 times the size and so instead of being an F motor they're H motors, these are powerful motors with an total impulse of 320N/s or about 65lbs/s so these are very potent motors. Now if you look over here (4:55) where I have the Hybrid motor you don't even wanna think about the letter code that applies to this thing, this is way beyond these other motors here. And so just to give you an Idea of how it actually is I should say you're not to think about it but now you're going to think about it. It's like saying don't think about a pink elephant, well get into that in a future video. (5:15) now there are a couple different ways that you can ignite such an engine. Today we're just going to be using some fuse, and we're gonna augment this fuse with some of the pyrotechnic flash powder that we mixed up in our last video, so if you're interested in how we made this take a look at our previous video. (5:32)
Now another alternative to using these is to use what's called an ematch or a bridge wire igniter. Effectively what these have is a very very tiny piece of nichrohme wire across these two conductors and if you put about an amp of current in here from a battery this will riefly heat up to red hot and ignite a little glob of. Pyrotechnic mixture which can then be used to ignite a rocket into which you insert it. (6:02)
It's a convenient way to do it and a lot of higher power rocketry uses it cause you can have very very long stand offs.
Today we're just gonna have fun with a normal fuse and we'll run like hell so it should be a lot of fun. Lastly how were gonna set this up is youll see the apparatus once we get outside and it's pretty straightforward so we should be able to figure out how it works and how we did that. (6:26) Each of the motors is gonna be mounted in little brackets that retain it and allows it to be mounted to a beam that stands out the back of our test rig and as a retaining plate here that keeps the motor compressed in here but allows us to adjust for different length motors or allows us to adapt to different diameter motors so that we can test all of our different motors on the same setup. So that's pretty much it lets get outside and let's start some fires.(6:52)
No talking until 10:38
So if you're interested in this camera we used for this slow motion shoot I did a video a few weeks ago (10:45) about the specifications, how to use it some of the lenses for it so if you wanna see anything about it check out that video.(10:56) and I wanna say that if you're interested in these rocket engines were gonna do more videos on this topic and we're gonna use this camera for a lot more high energy experiments in the future so I wanna thank you very much for watching and if your interested in this kind of material please (11:07) SUBSCRIBE to the channel because we're trying to get to 500000 by the end of this year, so hit subscribe.
And in the case I wish you happy new year stay safe and we'll see you soon! (11:22) ---> outro, no talking
Used to build my own rocket engines and the CATOs are half the fun :) That H-sized motor looks like a really nice burn.
You are going to need much more thorough ignition for those motors. Your ignition is way too slow, deforming any kind of thrust curve prediction you might make. I suggest using a pyrogen on the surface of the grain. Looking forward to the hybrid motor!
PS: If you want to discuss anything in detail about rocket motors, feel free to shoot me a private message, and we can talk thoroughly over email.
How does one send a private message?
I imagine it starts with the channel, Mario's in this case ... th-cam.com/channels/VRZJTgrFBL7nEPs8KLFVcg.html
I think youtube got rid of private messages?
Ew yea, This is true. The Wick system is really not good for these type of motors in any circumstance.
Great!
I had made sugar rocket & it worked the same
Yeah yeah but I wanted the thrust vs time data
@asdrubale bisanzio There are rigs you can setup with a Raspberry Pi to chart the exact data. ElementalMaker's channel has some examples of it
@@ecliptix1 a raspberry pi is actually overkill, I made one with an arduino for a whopping 10 bucks that works just fine
Yeah i get you.
And i wanted the real time video. Not the slomo. Oh well.
Agreed! I was very surprised he didn't have way to measure thrust in these tests. Hopefully he adds this feature in the next video.
@Tech Ingredients I'd be very willing to help you with the design and programming of this sort of device.
Check out BPSspace if you have a data fetish. Dude's been trying to land a rocket using solid boosters.
i was very into model rockets as a kid.....
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D12-5..... 12 second burn....5 second delay before chute charge fires
good memories
You all broke the 500k before Christmas. Any special video coming for your accomplishments?
This is by far my favorite tech channel on TH-cam.
Been waiting for this!
I truly admire how simple, yet fascinating you make everything sound. Your knowledge and the range of fields you cover are eclectic and mesmerizing. You manage turning complex topics one would find in a textbook, into something feasible and accessible to pretty much everyone. I’m a fan of both your method and the topics you cover, I’m looking forward to seeing what you come up with next!
Thanks!
"today we are going to build a fusion reactor out of spinach leaves and scrap aluminum."
😆 engineer, not MacGruber.
Never forget the epoxy.
"Now the precise chemical make-up of spinach can be affected by the specific mineral content of the soil. For our fusion reactor we want the highest concentration of heavy metals possible so we prepared twelve different soil samples in which we've grown our own spinach and then analyzed their composition using a bio-reduction process, which we'll discuss later."
I watched a TH-cam video on how to create metallic potassium from bananas.
I immediately wondered if you could build a hybrid rocket using hydrogen peroxide and metallic potassium. Because making things explode is fun.
@@jtjames79 patents.google.com/patent/US20060145019A1/en
Thanks guys. All I can think about now are pink elephants. In truth, great video and looking forward for the thrust numbers.
Not even one normal speed footage??😟
Just discovered your channel. I have been looking for a long time trying to find good technical hobby instruction and demonstration. Your engineering and build quality are a refreshing change from the usual cooky inventor channel.
Thanks and welcome!
So we will have to wait til spring to see them mounted on a catamaran. :-(
why not on a sledge?
When i was a kid i hooked a few D motors to an RC speed boat i had and sent it off across a lake. Amazingly it didn't go airborne or submarine. Skimmed clear across, up the other bank, and into a parking lot. Thats when i ran like hell.
@@LBCAndrew Haha remember similar things in my youth…
The one with the nozzle seemed very well directed. Up until that other thing. But seriously, definitely some benefit there.
Don´t think about a pink rocket propelled elephant
Where does the rocket motor go.. 😱🤣
@@ollieb9875 that´s the elephants secret!
Those guys are trending very fast. I really love the material they produce, the homemade solid rockets really gave them a boost (no pun intended)
Love the rocket series!!! But I was fully expecting someone has already pointed out that solid rocket motors are lit from the top >====(here)>, and not from the bottom >(here)=====> . You are losing a lot of power by the flame front burning against the pressure wave. Also the last second is usually the punchiest, where it's clear that your motors dwindle to almost pathetic at the end. Furthermore, the shape of the grain (star vs circle) provide simple control of regression rate, it's not as simple as saying there is no way to manage the thrust profile of solids.
Cored engines (such as these) are top lit, but end burners are - by necessity - bottom lit. I'd certainly love for someone with similar production quality to do a series on different core styles. There's just as much to learn there as there is in the chemical composition of the propellent.
Thanks!
True and that's a limitation of fuse based ignition. Next, we'll cover electrical ignition and more optimal ignition positioning.
The little future Easter eggs you put in your videos keep me coming back again and again. Your presentation of literally everything (including the camera shield) is perfect as usual.
Music was a little much, would have enjoyed a voice over.
*Congratulations to Tech Ingredients for reaching out to more than 500,000 subscribers, with over 23 million views!*
Happy New Year to you and your family as well.
I had worked at a propulsion company years ago. We built from small initiator motors, ejection seat motors, the 2.75 rockets for Apache helicopters and others plus the 10.75 F.L.U.F. drone launch motors. Testing was my favorite.
When the nozzles are overcome by thrust in these 4130 steel body motors, it was the cast nozzles that took the brunt. I've seen the nozzles turn inside out from the forces with little cracking.
Fun stuff.
Thanks!
This guy is a good communicator! Bet he was/is a high school teacher or college professor. Good video, headed over to google to search pink elephants now...
I would love to see the side by side motor runs, without slomo. Glad yall made it to 500k!
I would love to see a video where you do a tour of your workshop(s), your tools, equipment, consumables etc. Your channel is awesome, thank you for the videos.
I'm glad you only had one rapid unscheduled disassembly. Please review my comment on your previous video: the 'sparks' you're getting in your exhaust plume are signs that your fuel grain is fracturing as it burns. You're ejecting chunks of fuel. Not only does this mean you're losing a lot of efficiency, but it also means you're running your fuel grain under stresses it can't handle safely. This is a known issue with a known solution, not something where you need to poke around in the weeds and re-invent.
My memory is hazy, but I remember reading something about shaping the propellant charge into a prism shape with a polygonal cross section to increase the surface area, and thus creating more power in a shorter time.
I would like Tech Ingredients to do some basic failure analysis on the narrow nozzle because the tube appeared to be intact, but we could not see the off camera part that continued to burn. Then rebuild it stronger because it appeared to be the best one with the most potential and we learn more when a failure happens than when things go perfectly. Thank you.
If I remember correctly the ejection charge can also be used for lighting a second stage if done properly. Those were always tricky to get to work right.
Love the attention to detail in your videos, so as a tiny piece of constructive criticism for the next round of rocket firings, please consider placing a fan behind the cameras, so that the smoke doesn’t ruin the shots. To understand the wind, one must become the wind.
As someone that has been building and flying my own APCP motors for the last 8 years, I'm impressed with how you make candy motors. They are done much better than most youtube rocket bomber. After a college team showed up at our launch and wanted to fly candy motors they claimed were G and I size, they turned out to be more like E and G, and the flights were disastrous and dangerous. Watching your videos, I have serious doubts your motors were actually F and H sized. Without recorded pressure curves or at least thrust curves to measure burn times vs. pressure or thrust, I would not take your word for their thrust without documentation. I think that building an instrumented test stand could actually be a cool video.
What I find in your video to be very amateur and dangerous, is using fuse for lighting rocket motors. That hasn't been allowed since the '60s. You're over half a century behind the times. There are many ways to make your own motor starters that use the required, safer, electrical ignition systems. They are much safer, easier, and in many cases cheaper then using fuse. I make motor starters for H to M sized motors that cost me pennies each.
BTW, did you use the 100 ft. minimum safe distance per NFPA 1127, which is state law in most state? You obviously didn't use the required remote electrical ignition system which means your were probably illegal in your state if they have adapted NFPA 1122 & 1127 as part of their fire codes.
Please stop showing people with no knowledge of model rocketry how to endanger themselves with fuse ignition of rocket motors.
Watch our follow-up videos on rocket motors as well as our ignition system design.
I like to use ematches to ignite my sugar motors and an inexpensive fireworks firing system. Electronic ignition allows greater distance from the motor and ignites fuel at the head end. Ignition at the top gives greater efficiency and thrust. Great video series!
Thanks!
I'm going to cover some ignition systems next.
Fascinating..... ...not quite the kinds of chemicals I'd personally handle in my kitchen. But the presentation and discourse is refreshing as always. Keep up the great work.
Very nice burn tests. I'm just getting into the idea of model rocketry for my grandson and I to have some projects to do together and we can both learn new things.
I love the amount of research and precision you put in your videos. Very satisfying and interesting to watch. Thank you
I don't even look anymore what the subject of the video is. EVERY video from TechIngridients gets a "Like" automatically. And EVERY video from TechIngridients deserves a "Like". This channel shows that technology can have a political dimension. That technology can be part of freedom. Please keep it up! Greetings from Germany.
Thanks!
The upper charge can also be used to ignite the 2nd stage on multi stage rockets, or to launch Jacks to make a fireworks display.. never done that before...lol
I was anticipating that the trailer would be propelled down the road, take out the fence, followed by trees, and a fire trail trailing off in the distance. How fun!
Give us time!😋
yea i make 2" pvc rockets here in Thailand. i use 65-35+1%iron oxide and 2-3% sulfur. it is a fast burn with a 25mm nozzle made from bamboo. here they do it like racing. it is fashioned like a bottle rocket and it is measured from lift off to set down ( longer times being better ) so how your rocket is balanced as well as how high it goes is important. no add on or streamers allowed. balancing the rocket for max drag and slow decent is an art. but i love it it is so fun. i had a test rocket blow up 1 meter away and the wife now calls me crazy. lol
Hi from overseas to the east... Just wanted to thank you for your efforts and wish the both of you a happy 2021! Nice to see you, the younger guy, participating!
This guy is the dad I aspire to be for my kids one day
I like the standard TH-cam real-time followed by slow motion footage, it really works well for visual Learners like me.
Two suggestions, an elapsed time display showing the total burn-time would be nice and something that would display how much force (ounces, pounds, or grams) that the motors exert on the rail.