Brony Attempts To Escape The Friendzone (very cringe)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ค. 2023
- Me and PewDiePie checkout an old show called Geek Love where a brony tries to escape the friendzone.
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the problem I see with these guys is not that they're nerds, but that they show a lot of red flags, like being too controlling, having unreasonable high standards, not taking care of their personal hygiene and judging someone solely on their appearance.
yes big time.
Classic "badly socialized" starter pack
And still living home with their moms.
exactly this, and they push their own insecurities out. Gotta have a hot girlfriend so they look better. Gotta get cool stuff so they look cool. etc
Idk why but I've seen so many guys like this that have nothing to offer, smell, are unattractive, are know it all's, yet at the same time INCREDIBLY shallow. I know one personally and he's the most annoying guy you'll ever meet.
having preferences is one thing, turning those preferences into “I will never date anyone outside of these parameters” is where it becomes a problem
Right, you instantly close off your options and could miss someone who you would genuinely enjoy being with, all because you put one aspect of them under a microscope.
So you’d date a skinhead, or is that a hard no?
Preferences without experience lead to romanticising stuff you might not even like when it actually happens
I know a guy who thought he had a scat fetish until I he found out in the worst way possible that he didn't actually
Ehhh I agree to some extent? But if you date/marry outside your religion/strong principled beliefs, you're going to have a hard time aligning your future life together.
@@dyeandcloth1920I think that’s a bit different than the preferences most people set. a lot of people state their “type” or preferences and it’s all just looks
I am a bartender and legit overheard a conversation of a 30-something man talking to his friend about how to pick up women. His advice included pretending to not be interested, complimenting her friend to make her jealous, not showing up to the first date, and making an excuse to leave because “another girl is hitting you up.” Wtf. Then he whined to me all night about being single.
This must've been so satisfying to witness first hand. Its so hard to imagine witnessing such comical ironies first hand.
Do these people even hear themselves? Myself and pretty much every woman I know would immediately drop a guy for any of that behavior. Most women do not tolerate that behavior.
It might work on a teenager....
@@s4di.3 yes! I tried to tell him as much. Buddy… women are not dumb. We will see through that immediately. And if they don’t … it won’t be a solid foundation for a relationship.
@@cestlaphiethere’s people of all genders that are smart or dumb or have mental issues or are mentally ill or something, but you’re right otherwise
lmaooo
I love how both Ken and Felix both get SO OFFENDED she compared MMOers to Bronies 😂😂😂
Yea.
I think all MMO enjoyers were offended at that. :P
Just found this part 😂😂
THEY ARE NOT THE SAME
They are definitely NOT the same 😂 I’m offended she even thought that
Felix might have retired but at least we get to see him collab with Ken once in a while.
wdym that's pewdiepie? Felix is retired
I was hoping Pewds would still make appearances in other people's videos after he announced his retirement.
Looking forward to the arrival of the miniPewds.
@@absolutelynot5447 no he´s not retired, only taking a pause with his newborn
@@dialon5609 I was just joking abt Felix's alternate personas
I’m assuming they recorded these before marzia went into labor
The fact that he started the speed dating by insulting the women present shows exactly why these guys are single. They expect rejection, so they get the rude behavior in first.
I wouldve nope'd straight out of that lineup - to insinuate the ladies are all there with a job to do, "be nice and don't friendzone anyone!" I would be so mad lol
That’s your choice but a lot of people are tired of being freindzoned some of them really want a family one day and raise kids
@@wolf2966 Then maybe they should stop chasing people who don't want them and date people who do. Common sense.
@@kiyokumabearypicaly it goes like this(a 4 wants to date a 6 a 6 wants to date an 8, and thats how they stay single)
Usualy its just wanting somtin better then u are and u cant let ur ego go down to ur lvl so u chase the ones that dont want u but the ones that want u, u dismiss, and then ur suprised ur single.
Ofc not talkin about u but talkin in general.
@@kiyokumabear and people who aren't looking for relationships should stop speed dating and sending mixed signals to people they just want as friends but aren't considerate enough of the other person to tell them they aren't interested but they wont do that cause they know once they do that friend is gone
There's a gray zone. Being too sweet too quickly is a red flag, but being an a-hole is also a red flag. Ken's advice is on point.
What counts as ‘being too sweet too quickly’? Cause I don’t think that’s a thing, from personal experience. I entered v long term relationships with men who were v sweet from the get go.
I've been told once or twice that i am too sweet, but it's not like what Ken said about trying to get to third base, honestly i'm just extremely insecure and kind of desperate to be loved and i know those are not attractive characteristics, but i just have no idea how to overcome that. I mean, as a kid i was always a bit of an outsider, because i have autism and most other kids just thought i was a weirdo. I'm turning 30 this year and i have never had a relationship, all my life i have just been getting turned down, i haven't had a match on tinder in about two years and the girls that did match me just completely ignored my messages. I can't see how that would make anyone feel particularly confident.
@Ida-Adriana it's when they're overly obsessed over you way too quickly, like when you're on a date he gives you flowers, that's good! but if he tries too call you every night, asks to hangout everyday right away, basically not "sweet" just overly obsessive right away. It became a huge turnoff for most.
@@yolandasagita164 I can understand that, it's just kinda difficult to find the right balance, like if you text or call everyday, it becomes smothering, but if you don't do it enough, they might think you're not really interested and be like well, never mind then. I am very introvert and am more of a listener than a talker, so it's really hard for me to get a conversation going in the first place.
@@MittensMcMuffin i struggled with the same issues for a while and was also an outsider because of autism. i still struggle with talking but luckily i was able to find someone. if I can do it, you can too, u got this bro
I mean, to a Brony, friendship is already magic. A romantic relationship must be an f-ing Act of God
You're not wrong 😂
That would be correct 😂
As a Brony… yeah, you are not wrong
I literally snorted my drink reading this
@vinnrat ratio
The issue with the term "friendzone" to me is that implies that there is something wrong with being just friends. It's so wrong.
The whole term makes sense because yes your friends with your gf or bf but it's more than that someone in the friendzone wants to be friends with that person but they also want more the term isn't saying being friends is bad it's just saying they wanted more and probably will never get that and it makes sense for the other person to say they friendzoned someone because because all they want is to be friends and nothing more
I completely agree. It also implies that you see romantic intentions with every person you interact with, and when that doesn’t work out, it’s detrimental.
My parents have a picture perfect marriage, and one of the biggest take aways I’ve gotten from watching them is that they are each other’s best friend.
So I intend to marry my best friend. Someone who knows and cares about me and I him. Romance can blossom after.
If she’s using you then there is. If not then I don’t get why you’d be sad having another friend
@@Jestloo Will you be dating other people while befriending potential partners ?
Cause that's the problem with friendzone, hanging out with a girl, going on dates only for her to call you a 'friend' when someone ask what the relationship is between the two. Then what's the point ?
If the boy hung out with her to become a lovers while the girl wants her lovers to be friends first then you'll end up in the friendzone.
Your parents most likely became best friends WHILE dating.
Did you ever ask them ?
Cause no guy wants to stay 'friends' with someone they want to be in a relationship with.
Oh man, the cringe is palpable. Props to y'all for getting through this one.
We invited the cringe!
i agree! at the same time, though, i hope he met a nerdy, cringey lady somewhere down the line. he seems like he's probably actually a pretty nice dude, albeit a little (a lot) socially awkward.
I hope they get to the homestuck episode
This isn't as bad as the video of the pick up artists who harass women in Las Vegas.
Idk... i feel like the child predators are more cringey
As a nerdy girl, my advice for the nerdy guys is to calm down. I don't think a lot of the nerd guys are necessarily thinking that far but they get intimidated by the perceived relationship power. If they overcome that, they get way too excited too quickly on topics they like. Kind of, "someone is interested in nerd stuff too! They also are a girl!!!!" Ken's advice on pretend to be gay (to yourself) is probably great advice.
Welp, this is me shootin’ my shot. How about it?
@@Mega_Maybit I've had my own nerd for 9 years, but good hustle, keep up that energy.
It's crazy to think that nerdy guys think that way 😂 I've never heard of that, maybe because I'm not into gamers/nerdy guys. It's creepy they think interacting with women is going to get them laid right away 💀.
@@itzelramzhey gurl, what’s crack-alackin’
I've been pretending for years
You can tell ken and his wife have a great relationship, the way he talks about women and relationships is so sweet. I love to see it.
Ken is such a sweet handsome beautiful man, inside and out ❤❤❤
"The only person I've ever loved is Mary..."
how wholesome
Ken is a real one, guys.
Wholesome? That's a married man fearing for his life 🤣
@@reineonIt was a joke, you tard.
@@reineon You're not a man married to a woman and it shows
@@reineon They're an extremely traditional couple lol
He says regularly how Mary would kill him if she caught him cheating, so it's not a new joke.
@@FreedomForAll1-+
Guys always talk about how they try hard to get out of the friend zone but no one talks about how sad it is for a woman thinking they have a friend only to find out they only want to bang you. It applies both ways of course but this video highlights the "getting out of the friend zone" for men.
Like na, we can't be friends if your only talking to me because you want to bang me.
this
You couldn't have said it any better. Oh man I've had guy friends who've done this to me and it's very frustrating especially when you have a good friendship but they see it as transactional either way.
Or, y’know, they want a relationship.
I’ve talked to woman who only wanted to bang me that I wanted a real relationship out of it.
@@Justin-pe9cl right😭we're not weirdos like these other mfs
The thing about these creeps who go on and on about the "friendzone" is they never consider that they've put the other person in a "bangzone".
First time I’ve ever heard of that and that’s an amazing point you just made. The bangzone.. that’s genius
I could be wrong here, but I think dating in order to get laid/have a relationship with the person is kind of the point.
Truuuuu…
that’s such a valid point!
Honestly i feel that women choose people who take care of their body, to women Creeps are those people who stalk them and or who are unattractive . If you think about it fat is considered unattractive because by being fat you are limited to defending yourself and it was not practical in the primitive years. Similarly men dont like fat women because of the same reason. It sometimes comes down to working out and being normal, you dont need to be ripped but being normal will work just as well. I saw this when i reduced weight, women felt comfortable and they wanted to talk to me more. Let us be very clear and not sugar coat about the fat acceptance non-sense, being fat is also a health concern.
Pewds is in pure ‘new dad phase’ as he looks absolutely knackered
Still hot tho
@@alyssaapocalways 🤤
Pewdilfpie
If your only goal is to "escape the friendzone" you obviously don't care be their friend.
PRRREEEACH
No shitt it’s natural that men would wanna put their penis inside a woman unless they are family🤦🏽 except bronies, and lgbtq members, they will put their penis inside their family
Freaking seriously.
Seriously
why would they care ? they never wanted to be friends anyway. The goal always was about ending up as lovers.
I think it’s mostly because people blame what’s wrong with them on being a nerd or geek, it’s usually other things about them that make them unhealthy
This. I know adult men who are deep-cut nerds but can pull women just fine. And they all have very good hygiene; who would have thought.
@@AbbeyMarieEsp This. That. Those. These nuts.
@@AbbeyMarieEsp it's not the hygiene, it's the looks
handsome geeks get women, ugly geeks don't
@@AbbeyMarieEspyou really just need to know how to treat other people like actual people
I’ll admit I’m a nearly 21 year old woman and I have genuinely anxiety around attractive people. Socially I’m just nervous in general, but for me it’s not that I’m nervous because I’m seeking something out of our interaction. But more so I have no confidence and I think they’re above me because they are extremely attractive and I’m nervous to be rejected or humiliated.
I’m in the exact same situation! I feel like I inconvenience/bother people by going up and talking to them
Looks don't determine a person's worth. Nobody is above or below you based on their appearance. I hope you start to love yourself more and more and realize your worth! But yeah, there's more than one reason why people are nervous around attractive people.
I used to work with a 30yr old guy who read my little pony comics in the staff room. The guy would get crushes on high school girls, and when I told him that was inappropriate he went and asked one of them (16 years old) if she knew any older women she could set him up with. He would've definitely been fired if he hadn't been on the spectrum.
O M G
I knew a guy like that!! Dude went around asking other staff for people to set him up with. HOWEVER it was an entry level position so must of the other staff members were 16
Oh dear lord im so sorry you have to handle/witness that. As someone that is on the spectrum, ITS STILL NOT AN EXCUSE TO BE A DEGENERATE.
Being autistic still isn’t an excuse he should be in a sell with EDP
Still should’ve been fired. Being on a spectrum is no justification for being a complete degenerate/nonce like that
As a lesbian I have been "friend zoned" before but i call it it just... Being friends... because even if in attracted to a woman i dont have the expectation that we will get together, if i express that attraction and it doesnt go both ways its fine, i gave it a shot, now i leave it alone and i have an awesome friend.
Yea
Some females want their lover to be their best friend.
So they'll intentionally put you in the 'friend zone', however they don't realize that you can end up being best friend WHILE dating said person. The potential for a relationship dies the moment said girl puts others in the 'friend zone' so it's a stupid thing to do. Unless you rlly want friends.
@@ceshmate1953 ....yeah, I'd say girls really actually do want friends. I think they also realize that they can be best friends with the person they're dating. That's why they intentionally put some people in the friendzone...because they DON'T want to date them at all and would prefer to keep them as just friends. "friendzone" is not a stupid thing to do because nobody is automatically entitled to a shot at a romantic relationship.
@@ceshmate1953 Some people....do actually want friends, and not just a boyfriend/girlfriend. Wild concept, I know.
There is also nothing wrong with moving on. If you don't want to just be friends, then cut ties if they not interested
7:32 THANK YOU KEN! I know a lot of parents that keep watching “Bluey”, because it’s a well written show, after their kids fall asleep and I haven’t heard anyone call adults who like Bluey weird. It’s not weird to like a kids show as an adult. It’s weird to sexualize a kids show as an adult.
Hard agree! Nothing at all is wrong with MLP, the show is adorable. What I can't stand is exactly what you're saying! I believe that anybody who sexualizes a kids' show for any reason whatsoever has got to have something wrong with em.
I'm one of the adult Bluey fans that you described, I adore the characters. I absolutely cannot stand how, in some of the fan pages and groups, adults start speculating if the married characters are swingers. Like, if that's your lifestyle, cool, but don't try to project onto a preschooler's TV show. I've even see some folks go hardcore on the shipping of the kid characters!! 🤮 Bluey and her friends are 7 year olds, they're basically sexualizing a child, and when you tell them that, they get all defensive, trying to spout crap about how it's "just a cartoon show about talking dogs, it's not that deep." It is when you're basically perverting a wholesome, innocent children's program!
Why can't those weird ass grown ups just let the kids have an uncorrupted TV show!? It's too easy for kids who like MLP to accidentally see some nasty ass shit, and those adults shouldn't be putting that garbage into public spaces (both online and offline) that exist to mainly cater to their underage audiences!
I don't mean to go on such a long winded rant, but it's so disgusting to me how they seem to enjoy ruining things made for children.
@@mariakerberus1017as a kid who was into MLP and furry, I definitely found a LOT of creepy and borderline disgusting things, on a SCHOOL COMPUTER. I was searching for artwork of the one Luna character and this horrible drawing of an anthropomorphic version of her with giant muscles and all the nether regions exposed came up. In a FREAKING CHRISTIAN SCHOOL COMPUTER! Lesson learned: if your kid is into ANYTHING don’t let them go on the internet with it without supervision. There’s so much disgusting stuff that is literally out in the open and easily accessible.
I love Bluey its so wholesome and sweet. My son adores it. We love word girl too.
@@SamRK-1000THIS! I was horrified when I stumbled across some of that creepy shit!
I think the difference is that nothing has blown up in THE WAY mlp did and I’m not sure anything will
Ken needs to teach felix the perfected art of saying goodbye in the south. Once you slap your knees and say, "welp," all social interactions stop there.
Bless your heart.
"So anyways i started blasting" - Texas
Felix after seeing neckbeard: Are those sideburns an American thing?
Felix after seeing actual yee-yee ass sideburns that happen to be Swedish: Oh yeah those are pretty cool
I love Ken and Felix together because they are regular people man. It’s like the fame and money didn’t change who they are and they’ve kept their ‘personhood’. I swear so many celebrities/content creators completely forget how to be normal ass people and it is so annoying. I know Ken and Felix are well off and famous now, but they stay grounded and it’s admirable.
Also love seeing Ken and Dane together for the same reasons. Normal people living their lives, chilling.
Having a small time difference (or same time zone) definitely makes it easier!
FACTS
Very first thing "Felix do you think Bronies deserve love." Pewds : "No" LMAO! I laughed when at the end she friendzoned him LMAO
Did not hesitate
And he’s right
based
Love and tolerate!
Jk, I totally get it and understand, but we are more than just "people with jars". Look up Brony.
@@SunIsLost No, DON'T remind me oh god DON'T remind me.
I met my gf because we worked together, and she for some reason thought I was cute and nice. I thought the same for her and a few months later we were dating. Now, we have been dating for more than a year and are doing great. I never tried to compare her to a list to see if the met the "qualifications", she never compared me to a list either (As far as I am aware lol) and we are doing good. You aren't hiring someone lol
This episode should be watched by all people like this. So many good points about consent and not looking at every attractive person as a potential sexual achievement. It’s about mutual connection, not pushing past the other’s clearly set boundaries. Love it
When I was like twelve, I went to bronycon with a friend who was really into MLP, because they had an extra ticket. I’ve never seen it and had no interest but she promised me that there would be other fandom stuff there so I went. It was pretty cool, but there were definitely way too many weirdos. I’m glad we had an adult with us.
Yea, we are quite weird
@@SunIsLostwtf
Some adult bronies don’t really care about respecting kids who are in the fandoms. It’s incredibly frustrating.
Man idk abbreviating a show you’ve never seen has me wondering… 😅
@@KarosEliteLiterally everyone knows the abbreviation mlp
Ah, yes. I'm glad we can acknowledge that the women dont "friendzone" him, but that HE simply just wants to "fuckzone" them.
06:26 the way Felix' and Kens voices match for a moment is unexpectedly harmonious.
More people need to see this comment!
Make a beat!
I will say, I had the problem of talking to girls as an adolescent, and it stemmed from placing a negative value on myself and putting the person I like on a pedestal. You don't want one bad thing to ruin it all, but you need to remember that you're both humans. Have some basic amount of confidence and talk like a friend without crossing any lines.
I can't even get to the friend part without trying to distance myself
Congrats to Felix and Marzia on the birth of their baby. ❤
Yes Ken, bronies are examples of the sickness that hits any fandom. You get a group of people that take liking anything to an extreme and it always gets creepy.
Exactly
Like people who like vivziepop media
@@spryfi8624s there something with vivzipop? That's her with Hazbin Hotel no? I remember liking the pilot
@elyurias7201 I'm joking, helluva boss is my shit fr
@@spryfi8624 xD me and the joke that went way over my head!!
Geek Love has been my favorite thing for years and years. Watching innocent, sweet people have their hearts torn to pieces. It's such a brutal show and the showrunners knew exactly what they were doing.
The "friendzone" isn't real. I had a male friend for 3 YEARS, with zero romantic interest in him until one day when we were talking and found out that we both hated children. From there, I told him about my medical issues with having kids, and how to fix the issues, most surgeons will require that I've either already had kids, or have a husband who will sign a consent form. He agreed that was absolutely bullshite. And voila, romantic interest hit me like a freight train. (Edit: said friend is now my fiance, about to be my husband in a couple more weeks)
The key here isn't that he "managed to get out of the friendzone" but rather that he never considered himself to be in it in the first place. He was just himself around me. We have similar humor (dark) and hobbies (we met playing Minecraft!) and even a similar idea of what constitutes a clean house. If these guys would just have friendships without constantly pining after every nerdy thing with tits, they'd have a much higher chance of one of those nerdy things actually being interested in them. Friendship is a step towards romance, not away.
The only reason the "friendzone" has gotten so infamous is because women started using "let's just be friends" as a gentle way to turn down creepy guys/guys who didn't take no for an answer so that the guys would be less likely to freak out or try to hurt or force them. It really irritates me to see guys talking about it like it's a real, physical place that women put them in and that they can work their way out if they just toss enough cheesy lines and awkward flirts.
Was looking for this. It's not a friendzone, it's an acquaintance zone. Maybe even just a not-dating zone. I think women say this, because they mean "I have enough info to decline you as a boyfriend, but not enough to decline you as a friend, so let's try that next". Or maybe they just propose being friends so that hopefully they guy will decline them himself 😅 but yea, the "just" friends thing is annoying to me
Also nice story about how you met your fiance, congrats.
My partner of 7 years is my best friend first. We have a dating history in high school - 10 months so forever lol - but ended on bad terms. I reached out years later (Pokémon Go was truly a magical time) because my son wanted to go more places, I couldn't drive, and I remember despite the messy break up he was just a genuinely good guy. I'm surprised he even messaged me back. I was dating someone else when we were hanging out and didn't look at my best friend as being a bf. Besides, messy past. I do think watching him with my son is what started to spark that romantic interest. My then bf didn't click with him the same way and tbh it was more of a physical thing with him anyways.
There was a moment that my current partner and I almost broke up early in the relationship and the thing he was torn up about was not only losing me but also not getting to be there for my son. They grew very close. My son considers him more of a father than his actual father.
But yeah, being friends first is important. My mom said marry your best friend and I completely agree.
This is a strange cope where you recognize that women saying let's be friends is a thing, but deny that the friend zone is a thing. And you recognize that it's possible to be in the friend zone and have some hope of getting out, if even by a miracle, but then you deny that that is a thing. It's just nonsense no matter how I try to understand you.
@@mtae5the difference between being friends and being in the friendzone is that the latter implies one party SETTLING to stay there- all the while being dissatisfied and pining. There’s no space in your mind to get to know somebody (you know- develop a friendship) if the only thing youve got on your mind is the end game objective and saltiness. Friendships are mutual. The friendzone is not.
The friend zone definitely is real. I know many women who will keep guys in this zone because they get all the benefits of a boyfriend without the expectations on their part. This whole “all men are scary so we need to lie” is a weak excuse because chances are a dude who’s gonna freak out if you reject him knows that “let’s be friends” is rejection
Any parent or babysitter that is subjected to a bunch of kid's shows can attest that My Little Pony is a breath of fresh air. It's actually thought out and well written. I was thankful when my brother moved on from Paw Patrol to MLP
I think MLP is a lot less obnoxious than most kids shows nowadays. I work in retail and sometimes kids will come by, sitting in the basket and watching something on mommas phone or tablet and usually it’s cocomelon or paw patrol and it’s the most obnoxious, ear-scraping noise I’ve ever heard
My 2 yr godson loves Bluey. The Australian dog show on Disney+. And I enjoyed the episodes I’ve seen of it as well
@@tailgater5183've never seen it but I've heard great things about Bluey.
Growing up, my little pony was one of my favorites. This includes the older generations (minty was my favorite...) and friendship is magic. I still have a bunch of figurines, I still love MLP even if I'm "too old" for it, but it comes from a source of nostalgia rather than being creepy/sexual like how a lot of these "bronies" are into it.
@@12caratjules How is paw patrol obnoxious? I thought they did a good job with the animation and storytelling (on a basic level obviously) plus it’s cute.
Hey. Paw patrol is the shit!
As a person who used to go to gaming and comic conventions both as a cosplayer and a writer several years ago, I can tell you con people used to be way less creepy than they are now. Everyone enjoyed meeting people who were into the same stuff. Then it started getting too big. Comic con is more about movies and shows than comics. People felt more empowered to be disrespectful to people in costumes. Also now that every inch is packed with people, it’s super hot and literally everyone smells. As a full adult it just feels exhausting
Yeah it's crazy how this is. I've gone to some conventions that were pretty small and had never blown up to anything too crazy. Everyone was nice and it was super chill....I think cause at the time it was hard to find/connect with people who were interested in the same things as you in your own local area (this was also like, well before most of social media existed the way it does today). Those conventions have gotten really big since that time, and going now it does feel really hectic. Feels a bit less like a "community" at times, unfortunately.
Yea I go to Comic-Con every year but last year it was ridiculously crowded. You couldn’t get into panels or see ppls art. And so many ppl just were there cause they liked big name movies
My friends have gone for years and they way they describe it now, it sounds miserable
This even just my local ren fair is no longer just people in costumes having fun. I feel as though rave culture sort of has that vibe, but it is less inclusive to those who dont care for music.
Agreed 100%, Cons used to be a safe and genuine place for people who were 'different' (lack of a better word) but then it became so mainstream and something changed, which can only be speculated, when people who did not need this sanctuary from normalized society invaded this safe space
I used to have a few Brony friends in my late teens. Unfortunately we drifted apart a couple years back but I'll never forget in highschool they gave me a chance as a new girl in a big school when no one else did. I have always been so thankful for that.
Those of you in the friendzone, it's okay to take your shot and just ask the person out on a date. Confidence is attractive. Just don't be pushy and don't be a big baby about it if you do get turned down. Respect people's boundaries. Brush it off and keep living your life. Rejection hurts and it can suck, but how you react says a lot about your character.
I haven't watched your videos in so long . It was a ritual that my brother and I would have every morning with our cup of coffee . It's been about a year since he's past away and I started watching your videos again just to remember the times we shared together. Thank you for the laughter that you gave us Ken! It's always good to sit down and reminisce on the good ol'days with my brother. ❤️
Makes me cry everytime I watch you and Felix.
So sorry for your loss. Hopefully he can still watch this videos in the after life ❤
My brother also got me hooked on pewds. He passed 5 years ago from asthma. It's not easy to lose a best friend like that
I'm very sorry for your loss
Hope you're holding up
My sincerest condolences.
Felix is the embodiment of that nostalgic feeling. Even if he makes a brand new video I'm feeling like: "Damn this was a long time ago and it was damn good."
Has a nerd myself that showers I apologize for the nerd communities showering habits.
4:00
The way I've always said it, if you can afford a badge for a convention, you absolutely can at LEAST afford deodorant.
I'm amazed at how many people are upset by the term friendzone - it's the place you go to when someone doesn't have the same feelings you do, but still wants to be friends with you. Someone's reaction to being friendzoned tells you what kind of person they are, and there's no shame in having a crush on people you know.
It's people who say 'OMG I got friendzoned, I deserve them more than anyone else because I'm such a nice person!' that scare me. Those people need to go to therapy for thinking another human being belong to them.
yea
Nah. The problem with the term "friendzone" is that it follows with the idea of "getting out of that zone".
It ends with "friends" sticking around for another agenda, and deceiving the person who already put the boundary.
I think part of the problem is people use "friendzone" to describe a few different things. Some people have others on their "hook" (thank you, HIMYM), and keep them as a backup or validation when their intended romantic target doesn't work out. This is the scenario that I think some men are talking about when they complain about the friend zone.
However, I think that if you're romantically interested in someone and they just want to be friends, you should walk away. It puts unfair pressure on the other person, and it makes you constantly want more, it's a recipe for disaster. And people don't owe you relationships for doing nice things for them either.
@@shinobu3617yep... I been through this. Best friends with a guy for 15 years who turned out just wanted to bang me this whole time. Absolute degeneracy and ignoring my boundary. Disgusting
Thank you for the life advice, person with a trans pfp.
lol
People who only become friends with others just to date or get into their pants are gross. Never come into a relationship with ulterior motives.
dont start a "friendship' with ulterior motives, knowing he'll go above and beyond friendship behavior. I don't need friends like that, just say no and save my valuable time.
one of my old guy best friends did this to me, i rejected him too many times to count. he got depressed and got suicidal when i expressed i wanted nothing romantic with him, then once i moved forward and got a boyfriend; my “guy best friend” went off on me, turned his mom against me and called me a narcissist 😂 like??? okay pal thanks for harassing me and seeing me as an object our whole friendship, i will not miss you lmao safe to say i haven’t spoken to him since
@@mikeespinoza5733 How will she "know" that he will go above and beyond friendship behaviour? That's something only HE knows, which was the entire point of the original comment here; DO NOT go into a friendship with such ulterior motives. You say you don't need friends "like that" / like women who won't just say No and save your valuable time?? How would SHE Know that you want more than friendship when you yourself call it friends/friendship, but in your ulterior head you want more??? Friendship does NOT mean romance. So why are you saying you don't want friends like those women who want to be just friends? Do you even know what "friends/friendship" means??? Lol Don't waste women's time by pretending you want to be just friends when you clearly want more. We women don't need "friends" like that.
@@mikeespinoza5733 If friendship is a waste of your time, then clearly you were not actually a friend in the first place. If you only give something because you expect to receive something in return, it is not a gift. If you're only friends with someone because you want to sleep with them, then you're not a friend. You're not being kind. You're not being helpful. You're definitely not being honest or authentic. You're being a creep. She's not wasting your time. You are.
@@Valoelify maybe you should ask a woman if that isn't too scary for you. The same double standard where women say the person who initiated the date pays and magically never initiate any dates. Please stop complaining like this a gendered issue that only YOU suffer from.
felix is so comfortable expressing his opinion. i am not even that comfortable to do that with some of my closest friends, let alone millions of people. respect.
HELP MEEEE HE SAID HE WAS 13 BECAUSE HE WAS COSPLAYING AS DIPPER PINES😭😭😭
“felix do you think bronies deserve love”
“no”
after all the childhood trauma they’ve caused so many people I cannot help but agree with that
We aren’t nearly all like that at all, the loud ones just happen to be the gross ones
Wtf are you on about
Based
“Trauma” sure buddy.
@@AlzMarioWolfe The quiet ones Ive met were REALLY fuckin gross too, but I'll take your word for it...
MLP is a cute show. I love the art style and it's overall story and lore is nice. I appreciate that Ken dares to say it too.
But yeah, making it sexual is a no-go.
I think its like that with any fandom. Its fine if you like a show but the moment you sexualise animals, underage characters or anything, it gets just weird. Plus, as long as you act normal, nobody really cares. If you are obsessed and cringe af, its too much for people.
Yea, that's creepy
@@Shyress yea.
This goes five-times as much for nearly every anime fandom. It's a major reason why I left early anime fan forums, the excuses for sexualizing and the defenders of the creeps was too much and still persists.
Most of the main characters in MLP are anthro adult characters, but I’ve seen some bronies sexualize the child characters in the show, and that just particularly horrifies me.
PewDiePie asking if social awkwardness around hot women is a thing that grown men experience is like the genius kid in class saying the math problem isn't hard.
“i have never been in a relationship where there wasn't conflict. there will always be something you say or do or they say or do that won’t line up with your preferences. it’s all about if you two can communicate to work past it.” i know those were not your exact words, but i’m having a really hard night. i struggle with PMDD and a lot of PTSD/trauma in relationships and whenever i start feeling hormonal i just have irrational thoughts. i was crying but then what you said really snapped some sense back into me and reminded me that i am loved and i’m just having a bad night. i’ve missed getting your videos in my recommended even tho i’ve been subbed for years :( i’m glad i decided to go down a cinnamon toast ken rewatch rabbit hole tonight. you’re one of my fav youtubers of all time ♥️😕
I believe that a lot of these so-called geeks suffer from depression. One of the main symptoms of depression is failing to keep up on hygiene.
they're autistic
Facts
Can testify.
A few years back I was in a very dark spot, where I wouldn't shower for days. Perhaps even weeks.
Like "what's the point, it's not like I'm gonna be happier, or like this miserable existence will have any meaning, who will appreciate me for even taking a shower, it won't change that I'm disgusting anyways and it's all for nothing"
You legitimately can't be bothered to take a shower, because you don't care, you're too occupied with your thoughts.
@@orestojanovic8405 I also know this from experience and consider myself a geek. I hoped this could help someone in a mental health crisis recognize they could use help.
@@_NightOwl Yep, definitely. Even If it's scary to "seek help", people at least should be brave enough to admit that they have a problem and that THEY need to make the first step. But we both know it's not that easy...
I don't think a lot of guys try to date people because they love them but instead because they don't love themselves and think they need others to give them love rather than to improve themselves. Awesome video BTW.
Damn... you got me
Well, let's be real: this comment also works with a lot of girls. Far too many people try to get into a relationship out of fear of being alone with themselves rather than genuine interest in the person they are dating.
@@Gonzora Couldn't had said it better myself.
They just wants to mate
There's definitely some other underlying issue for the dudes not being able to find a girl at an anime/comic convention. I literally met my ex at a convention and actually met my wife at a convention.
If you're not throwing up red flags, it's not too difficult to find someone, especially at a nerd convention.
If they genuinely liked the woman, they wouldn’t mind being in the friend zone.
They don’t want to put in any effort to get to know or care about her, they just want to be cared about. They think they’re entitled to the perks they get from a relationship, without actually putting any effort into perks for her. They put the blame on women saying it’s her fault they’re being “friend-zoned” , when they haven’t made any effort to even get to know her. 🤦♀️
I think if you have feelings for someone and they aren’t reciprocated, it’s difficult to have a genuine friendship. It’s probably healthier to cut loses and move on until you lose feelings.
sort of like girls in the friends zone enjoy the perks of a relationship like food and free therapy?
This is bad advice, if a girl is not willing to pursue a relationship with you, you should never attempt to be friends with her under the assumption it will lead to one. If you like a girl and she doesn't reciprocate those feelings, it's better to move on and let her live her life instead of trying to be a part of it. I absolutely guarantee even you, when you genuinely like a guy, let him know instead of making him parade around pretending he wants a platonic relationship. People who play games end up old, alone and sad, and they usually stay that way for the rest of their lives.
@@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen I think you misunderstood. It wasn’t advice saying someone should pursue a friendship when they have different intentions, like dating. I was saying the exact opposite. I meant, if they actually cared about the woman, they wouldn’t mind being “in the friendzone” bc they would *want* to be her friend. If that explains it better.
@@mikeespinoza5733 Wdym that’s the perks of any friendship? Sometimes I pay for my friends, sometimes they pay for me. We vent to each other. Both parties receive those perks, otherwise it’s not a friendship.
I've told someone once that he stank. He was a friend but he didn't drive and one day we were driving in my very small car during hot weather. My nose couldn't handle it any more. So I told him: you know, maybe you should take a shower more often because sometimes you don't smell that good. He was shocked but he is still a friend and he doesn't smell anymore. He had no clue that he smelled. My nose thanked me for that.
Im a strong believer that the friendzone doesnt exist. A person male or female doesnt owe you shit just because youre nice to them.
Exactly, and when someone says "Why won't they date me? I'm a nice person" I'm like yes, that's the BARE minimum. Being nice should be normal.
Id offer that there does exist the toxic relationship of someone who is "pulling" another along for their benefit- maybe the attention is nice, or taking advantage of the others giftfum nature etc.
Thing is when a man states this/themselves being friend zoned the responsibility is all on them. THEY are the ones who are letting her get away with it. If you're feeling friendzoned then you acknowledge you don't want to be merely friends, and so you should learn to disengage and move on. Because either you'll feel used or she'll feel deceived.
Unless they're threatening your livelihood or personal safety, the friend zone relationship is purely your own problem to free yourself from.
@@JayMickwell said. The ppl who complain about being friendzoned while they stay there just don't want to take responsibility for their life. They'd rather blame the other person than take any action to better their situation. (Maybe that sounds harsh but I think it's true)
Isn’t the friendzone just a way of saying when one person has romantic/ non-platonic feelings for someone, while that other someone has an emotional bond and cares about them but that bond is not something that involves romantic interest or feelings and never will.
How does that not exist?
@@rubberduckiedogs i think they mean that you're not really being a friend if you believe you stuck in the friendzone (you don't see the other person as a friend, but a romantic prospect)? Or they mean more the way people complain about the "friendzone" being some zone they can't escape, when you can just leave the situation (which sucks/can be sad) and you can try to stop wishing for something that will never happen (and blaming the other person for their lack of romantic feelings) - unless, of course, that other person is deliberately leading you on.
but i get what you mean. from your definition, yeah that exists. i think OP is talking about how people use it kinda as a weapon against the other. (it's totally reasonable and human to be sad at being seen as a friend when you love someone, but it's something else to complain about it and blame that person for seeing you as a friend when you can instead just be mature and leave/try to move on (or let the feelings go if you can and actually be friends)).
Ken and Pewds are what the peak man used to look like, before hookup culture took over. They could have a lot of women, but they only choose one. They stay in shape, not so they can get women, but to keep their wives physically attracted to them. They don't view their wives as sexual objects, but as their life partner. And now that they have kids, they are dedicated to giving their kids a great life.
That's what manliness was at the beginning of the last century, but this century it's turned into "How many women can I sleep with?"
Amen
I’ve never been a PDP fan, but the flat agreement and listening skills he showed while Kenny discussed the poop thing has given me new appreciation for him 😅
In my experience, when a woman says she is attracted to a**holes, what she is really attracted to is confidence and she isn't good a differentiating between the two.
True. Even JP explained this concept of psychology. It is very animalistic, but both men and women have such preferences, with such women, who keep falling for "assholes", of course they don't want a bully and an abuser as a partner, they just want someone strong and brave to protect them, and they just confuse that with an asshole.
I always thought of it as a result of fantasy romance stuff that you see in movies and books. Some women like the fantasy of a dark and mysterious guy who they fall in love with and he eventually becomes more gentle towards her. It's sappy to me, but I can understand why some people might enjoy such a fantasy.
There is no escape from the friendzone because there is no friendzone. If someone isn't into you, they just aren't into you. It's not something you can game your way out of.
Not true
Me and my bf used to friendzone each other because we were too scared to tell our feelings
@@tivianengel7789 Maybe I'm splitting hairs, but I feel like that's a slightly different situation than the friend zone. You both liked each other even if you were afraid to tell the other person. The friend zone is the idea it can be one-sided and still progress to a relationship.
So you're saying there's a chance.
Stalking is a big problem, but if you’re dressed super differently and wearing a wig, you might just slip by unnoticed at the hotel Starbucks
As far as the whole "nervous to talk to girls" part, I think Its the fear of rejection for most. Being bullied and whatnot, I was so scared to approach anyone I would like to ask out because people are mean and I was terrified of what they would say.
One day Ken will bring in both Felix and Dane in a video
So ready lol
I hope so cause that would be a great video, the three of them sharing there views on a topic would be golden
Nah three people plus video is way too much and if you think about it Dane is more of a hype man
i hope so, but imagine timezones might be the problem here!
*me playing MMORPG for hours every day* thank u so much for disagreeing with carolyn "just friends" hahaha
Right? I've made some good long time friends, and got a few girlfriends from mmos.
I am really proud of you both, Felix and Ken. You've really grown as content creators in these 10 years I've been watching your videos! 👍
*squeaky voice* “Why don’t they shower?” LMAAOO
Can I just say that the whole friend zone thing is not only guys. It happens to women, too. Like Ken said, and Felix said not everyone is going to like the other person.
Felix going through the cute, the cringe, and finally the anger. Quite the rollercoaster.
My husband is a nerd. When I met him he was awkward to talk to, waaay to enthusiastic and eager (I was modeling and acting at the time and he had no idea how to talk to me) and i firmly put him into the friendzone. But here's the thing, it was the best thing i could have done. Being good friends for 2 years before we started dating meant I actually got to know him properly and he relaxed around me and stopped being so awkward. Once I got to know the real him, rest is history. 11 years together and he can proudly say he escaped the friendzone 😂
Nothing wrong with being in the friendzone, like many others have said. I friendzoned my now-boyfriend and he was fine with it. Months passed and I got really sick for a week. He was there for me the entire time, asking how I was and keeping me happy even when I felt miserable. I realized that I was actually falling in love with him. That wouldn't have happened if we weren't already friends, first.
I love how carolyn "just friends" turned into carolyn "enemy" once she actually got to know the guy lol. Guess thats one way to escape the "friend zone"
He is a brony as a grown 4ss adult....
There is a thing called being "nose blind"
If you are around the same smell for so long, the smell isn't really noticeable to you anymore.
It's like a person with a house full of cats. You walk in and KNOW but they aren't aware of the smell.
I actually really appreciate the few people who've been polite enough and discrete about telling me when I smell. I already don't have a good sense of smell, add that to getting used to scents fast, I'm super self-concious about smelling. So thank you to the few people who've let me know! It's helped me find ways to prevent it especially on hot days (other than deodorant, I sometimes have a little baby powder that I'll dab over it when I sweat-and I also carry a small water bottle that I freeze overnight, and let cool down over the day because a quick spray to the neck or face helps with more than just cooling down)
As a cat owner, this is sadly accurate 😢
cats smell great to me. When I was in high school, someone had told me "I always smell like my cat" and I was like "No surprise I'm always with her. Is it in a bad way or good way?" They just said that it didn't really smell "bad" but it was a specific smell. I do wonder, what is a cat smell to other people? Cuz I can't smell it
MY FAVOURITE PART THAT HAD ME CRYING, WAS WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT LIKING SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T LIKE YOU BACK AT 13:27, AND KEN GOES "Take me and Felix for instance..." AND LOOK AT FELIX'S FACE WHEN KEN SAYS THAT. PLEASE I AM CRYING LAUGHING.
The guy dressing like Dipper feels like an insult to the entirety of Gravity Falls
Props to Ken for noting that MLP is a good show. Quality messages, unique characters, and impressive world-building. But yeah, it can definitely be taken too far.
Yea
Can definitely be taken too far? It most certainly has been taken too far.
I won’t deny I enjoyed MLP when it first came out, there were a lot of lessons for adults. My kids are too young to watch it yet but maybe when they’re older
I shamelessly still love the MLP fandom as a vendor at these conventions myself but I’ve definitely run into a few horrible people along the way. A majority though? No. Very nice people honestly. A lot of socially awkward people, but they’re doing something with their lives and trying to find friends when they attend cons. I always respected that. They honestly aren’t even as weird as the people I saw at the anime con I was dragged to last weekend either.
Never
I work at cons and have definitely told people they stink before. I have a very sensitive nose and being a female working at cons you attract the sterotype of con guys. I have very sweetly placed my hand or fan over my noise and said, "I'm so sorry, my noise is very sensitive to things like colognes and perfumes. Im not sure what you have on but the smell is hurting my nose." It usually goes one of two ways, they say sorry and walk away sniffing their shirt/self, or their friend will straight us say, "she means you stink"
That will break the spirit of a guy whose brain is already broken. He will retreat into himself and will spend the rest of the day focused on keeping away from people rather than enjoying the con. They stink, not because they don't shower, or use deodorant, Often they are self conscious about it and wash multiple times a day, but because they haven't yet found a solution that works. No one told them that they can solve the problem by shaving their arm pits.
@@bradcauthon7244that was very dramatic. There are definitely people with medical problems that cause them to smell but that certainly isn't every case. Some people just have terrible habits/hygiene. If someone smells bad, they should know. Not saying anyone should be a dick about it but, they should have the opportunity to fix it if they can.
@@thelocalstoner420sounds like they are part of that group
Ive been volunteering at my local cons for a decade now. They all have written in to the badge rules you must take 1 shower each day. If you stink the volunteers can and will kick you out. It's made gaming hall so much better.
@@ashleyvasquez-lopez8033 yep
I went on a blind date with a guy who needed "Dutch courage" in order to talk to me. AKA, he needed a drink and even then, he barely spoke to me and spent more time talking to everyone else at the bar. It was so awkward
felix talking about americans like he doesnt literally live in japan
Being in the "FriendZone" isn't a bad thing! Every person I've ever been in a relationship with we were friends first! Sometimes being friends is the first step to something more : ) It's a perfect chance to get to know the person and potentially develop those strong feelings! Even if nothing romantic comes from it then you have some really good friendships
As someone who’s been through the friends to lovers as well, it hurts when it ends in breakups though because not only you lose a lover, it’s also too awkward for both to keep the friendship imo :(
@@fibriantira In some cases, yes! I've remained friends with some of my exes : ) Not all of them, obviously, and it's different for everyone.
Actually, the person I'm with now-- we were friends, then dated, broke up and stayed friends, and are dating again!
I would love to be in the friend zone instead of the "acquaintance I make small talk with when I'm bored sometimes" zone with some people honestly.
@@TakusenX That's great to hear! so it seems like it's a right-person-wrong-timing kind of situation lol
@@Max-dn6pl Typical ignorant young male. You'll learn in time. Unless you keep listening to incels for your life advice.
I love how Felix saying that bronies don’t deserve love is the first thing he said on TH-cam since having a child😂
“…evading sharks with freaking laser beams on top of their freaking heads.”
Man’s really made sure to bring out the Dr. Evil in him on that one lol ( 16:10 )
Thanks, Ken this video was really eye-opening. I have always been that guy that waiting for the 'perfect' girl. But thanks to this video, I have realized I won't go anywhere with that mindset. Let me put myself out there and see how it goes. Truly. Gold content.
Dated a dude very much like this guy, even a brony too, and it was the worst 4 months. I had moved in because I’ve known him most of my life, but holy shit, I did NOT know him.
Walking into his home filled with hundreds of POP figures, nude anime figures, nude anime girl posters IN THE KITCHEN, and body pillows of nude children.
I wanted to bounce sooner, but he stole my cash savings and it took me a bit to get it back.
What was the worst, was him and how he felt about my ptsd from sexual assault. He said he would respect it, and all the happened was me getting assaulted again.
I know it’s not all of them, but these dudes are not that different from eachother, and I’m sorry, but I’ll never look at a brony or a Uber cringe nerd like this without seeing a pedophile and rapist. They’re disgusting.
Holy moly! I’m so sorry that happened to you. I totally understand what you mean when it is “not all of them but too many”.
lmaoo
If you're gonna have nude anime posters and figures, have a "private room" for em or smth. Have that division in ur life. I don't care what people do on their own time but it has to stay behind closed doors. don't have ur posters out in the kitchen ffs 🤦
All that said, eugh. Ya hate to see it. Glad you got outta there
you need a therapist cuz that made youre a little unhinged
I'm so sorry that happened to you. He was a total jerk to steal your money and hurt you, and I'm glad you were able to get out! Hope you're doing better now ❤
It's called being "Nose Blind" Ken and it's a genuine phenomenon.
I definitely freeze or act stupid if I find someone attractive. 😂 The rejection is what they are afraid of. Being told we aren’t good enough because we aren’t cool.
I feel for this guy. I was super awful when it came to talking to women. I would say cringey shit and just randomly stop talking because I would be thinking way too much. Then something finally clicked and I was like "talk to them like gosh dang normal person." Now it's easy to talk to everyone.
22:18 One of Ken's kids putting on a singing performance in the bg is adorable lol
As a woman, as soon as we got to 15:53, I'd be walking out so fast
Yeah, I feel like through the course of most women’s lives we have to slowly realize that the “bad boy” thing is just a fantasy and wouldn’t actually work in a proper relationship. I’ve always been drawn to the dark and brooding type guys, but over the years I’ve unironically had to adjust my ideal type to be guys who LOOK dark and brooding but aren’t actually, bc believe it or not _I don’t actually enjoy being treated badly!_
*Friendly reminder to all my fellow girlies out there:* It’s fun to fantasize about guys that are mean and scary to everyone but you, but please remember that _in real life,_ those guys would most likely end up being abusive to you and/or your loved ones in some capacity!!
well its mostly young people too. I'm not trying to find a girl with a 6 figure job who's compassionate and listens to me, i want a questionably sane hot chick.
When felix said "so i asked my sister" and took a pause 😭🤣
Congratulations Felix and Marzia 🎉🎉🎉
When you asked about men being unable to talk to women, it’s because they go into it viewing it as transactional. It’s not meeting someone to get to know them, they see it as a means to an end and assume the girl isn’t gonna like them bc of the nice guy / nerd trope.
ken and felix are like the reasonable uncles that i listen to from time to time about guy advice 🙏
11:00 i believe its due to a superiority complex where the guy feels the girl is superior to them and they place them on a pedistal. The same happens with a job interview when you know eveything is riding on impressing this "higher power person."
Literally tried Felix’s method to tell someone they smell and they said oh it’s ok you smell I don’t mind 😂😂😂 when they’ve openly admitted they know they have bad hygiene but don’t want to shower 💀
Guy at work has a 10ft radius of piss smell and he knows it 😂
😂😂 damn
The stereotypes exist for a very valid reason.
Sad but true
Not really, fandoms in Europe are very different. I remember back when I used to play WoW, our main tank was a kickbox European Champion and our healer was a model at an agency, she was drop dead gorgeous. Honestly we always avoided americans because they were loud and had a thing for starting drama 😅.
@@evlfckthe actor that plays superman and gerald is a mega geek, yet is the personification of a massive chad. Cool and chill guy.
@@evlfckpeople ple in America tend to be busier, so you get the losers playing lots of video games.
@@evlfckI am pretty sure he meant the Brony ones.
Sometimes it's just people who are nervous just because they have social anxiety
11:27
What’s it like to not have a fear of rejection based on all the rejection you’ve experienced