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um...yeah. So... What happened to the SLANN in 40k, and how did the concept turn into the Old Ones?
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I feel the need to translate the joke slann names for the non-uk audience, as some are painfully british.
ribbet ribbet - fairly obvious, this is just onomatopoeia for a frog's croak
itzadodyl - "it's a doddle"; "a doddle" being a very easy/simple task
pintamilkada - "pint of milk"; i'm not sure what the -ada part is. "pint of milk harder"? if you're "hard", that means (among other meanings lol) that you're tough… think of orks boasting about who's the 'ardest
zipanzuma - "zip-and-zoom-er"; to zip and zoom is to move about at high speed, often erratically
pek - not sure about this one, it could just be "peck", which can mean a short kiss (e.g. "a peck on the cheek")
mylkbotyl - "milk bottle"; it might be worth noting that, back in the day, most(?) people in the UK had milk delivered to their doorsteps rather than e.g. buying it at a shop with their other groceries. the person who delivered milk was the "milkman", and they drove a small electric van called a milk float. milk was supplied in glass bottles that you would rinse out when empty, and leave outside for the milkman to collect as they dropped off your next delivery
lep inluni - "leaping loony"; a wild, crazed person; CF. lunatic
cupacocoa - "cuppa/cup of cocoa"; a cup of hot chocolate
akabylk - "acker bilk"; british jazz/easy listening clarinetist
ethelalco'ol - "ethyl alcohol"
gotlogyr - "gottle o'geer"; 1976 album by folk band fairport convention. the name is meant to evoke a ventriloquist struggling to enunciate "bottle of beer"
pinacolada - if you're not into yoga, if you have half a brain…
It'll be "pint of milk a day", or rather based off of the milk marketing board's "drinka pinta milka day" slogan:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinka_pinta_milka_day
In the Total War Warhammer game they do the same trick with the Lizardmen, but then derived from Dutch words:
Bahl'gehaqt - Meatball
Besstel'bus - Delivery Van
Cho'qomel - Chocolate milk
Dediqqe'pad - The fat toad
Defiq'erin - Burn it all
Flinq-Meppen - Hitting Hard
Friqan'del - Dutch type of sausage
Geef'eten - Give Food
Izdat'zo - Is that so
Katte'bak - Litterbox
@@robeissens4342 hell yeah chocomel! best chocolate milk imo
Merci beaucoup!
(Could pek come from Willow - the book?)
@Rob Eissens: Dutch, for the Empire faction? Was it not inspired by the holy roman empire? Yes, it is relevant, but German would be more "symbolic", isn't it?
@@crabe804 yes, the empire is german/holy roman empire based. Its just the lizardmen's names that are dutch. Probably a Dutch developer at CA having fun
Fun fact..the Old Slann engineered worlds according to common templates. This explains why the warhammer fantasy world resembles Earth. It was implied that many worlds resembled Earth.
This also gave a handy excuse as to why one campaign world's wars went one way, and one went another. Stopped the grognards from grumbling too loudly about it. You had a handy excuse to say "Well in this world the Norsa weren't corrupted by Chaos."
_Interesting..._
It’s also a funny reason for the world builders not having to be that creative in mapping the world or cultures. Aztec lizards, Atlantean elves, German empire sigmire followers, French nobility bretonnians, British crooked teeth orcs.
I wish they would bring the Slann back. I really love those little froggies!
They were also in early Blood Bowl and now are the only official team that is still unofficial (what a paradox).
What surprises me the most is just how good those first Slann models were. If you had told me that they were from late 4th or early 5th edition WHFB I would have believed you.
Some of the minis shown in the video look brilliant.
Model making is for artisans. Hand-work. Something that has been in decline ever since the rise of industrialization. I'd expect the opposite. Yeah, you could use computer aided design, but that only makes stuff look like it was designed on computers by people who want stuff to look unique (whilst doing the same thing over and over) and by people who have no idea how stuff works (they only focus on the outside). So no surprises here.
Tangentially related fact: the Slaad also made their way into the Elder Scrolls game lore as the Sload, an ancient race of evil slug/toad necromancers
Well that series spun off from the team's D&D games, didn't it? Just like Ultima and Quake were apparently inspired by TTRPG campaigns that the developers ran.
@@casanovafunkenstein5090 the same thing happened to the expanse books. That too is apparently a rpg campaign retrofitted into a book and then a show
@@casanovafunkenstein5090 yup, they (the small team led by Julian LeFay as he called himself back then) wanted to make an RPG, were greatly influenced by Ultima Underworld, then devised at least some of the initial lore from the custom elements of their D&D campaigns.
What the fuck that's incredible
Actually the necromancy part is possible because in total warhammer 2, there is a unit that carries what is called a rejuvination crystal, it can heal and revive units.
Not sure if that really matter.
The Charles Stross connection just blew my mind!
I'm surprised you didn't mention the bit in the 3rd ed necron codex that said you could have a game using Lizard Man models to represent descendants of the Old ones that the Necrons are hunting down.
Man, I forgot about those! But yeah, that actually was a thing!
KREMLO CAME FROM SPACE!
I had *no idea* the Slaad and Slann were related! I mean, obviously they were connected, I just assumed they came from the same myth or fictional inspiration :o
I mean, look, I have NO concrete evidence here, but they're both magic frog people that happen to be made by the same company that only produce products for those two games, both invented/released within a year or two of each other and have REALLY similar names. So.....
Yeah, when I got to that part of the video, I was like, "Oh, so _that's_ where the Slaad came from".
I find it funny that the Slaad are a firmly Chaotic species in DnD, whereas modern Slann in Warhammer Fantasy/Age of Sigmar are firmly on the side of Order.
@@ArbitorIan And THAT is a power of deduction. Old Sherlock would be proud! You are right, of course, it could not be a coincidence.
My mate has a massive WFB Slann army consisting mainly of original 80s citadel Slann models. He collected them in the 90s and has spent the last 10 years adding to them. They‘re certainly an acquired taste, but he paints them really well and when he took them to ‘Bring out you lead‘ Trish Carden was there and absolutely loved them.
Friend... You can't drop a bomb like that and not link to any pictures!
Yeah come on ....spill the beans
I keep trying to post a link to pictures, but youtube seems to be automatically deleting my comment. I‘ll try again and split the link up a bit. Hopefully that will work.
Really enjoying your channel, I used to an avid painter and gamer. I’m now a 50 year old doctor and your channel has started me getting back into 40k. I still have my original copy of Rogue Trader. I’m now getting back into the Lore. Thank you for reawakening my old passion.
47, and like yourself this is a nostalgia shot in the arm!
Gave away my Khorne / Eldar / Orks and even Squats.
Still follow the lore, and looked at getting the Space Hulk board game a few months back, but only available via insane ebay scapling prices
If I recall correctly, in Age of Sigmar, the Seraphon books (the AoS version of Lizardmen) confirm that the Slann leaders use astrology to attempt to divine the will of their distant Old One masters. They've apparently been cut off from the Old Ones for quite some time, but diligently work towards what they assume to be the Old Ones's master plan.
It's the same as Warhammer Fantasy Slaans. They toil to enact some unfathomable divine plan heedless of the fact it's probably failed when the chaos gates collapsed.
I think it’s really interesting how the Slaan and Slaad diverged, Slaad are the native inhabitants of Limbo, the D&D plane of pure chaos, while Slaan and the Lizardmen are the ultimate Anti-Chaos faction in Fantasy and AOS.
If GW were to bring back Space Slann, they could sell loads of codex!
Codex Red Space Slann
…
Codex Blue Space Slann
Just imagine the Stratagems!
Poor old Eldar going from a sophisticated lazy race to a dying sophisticated race in a few years. This just simply reinforces my belief that GW hates space elves.
Very relatable trajectory tbh
Who wouldn't hate them?
KREMLO CAME FROM SPAAAAACE
And he shall return to space!
was looking for a kremlo came from space comment but i did not expect it to come from doctor simon clark him self.
I'm old enough to remember when you got Amazons with bolters and needlers in Warhammer Fantasy Battle....
Was picked up again in the Lustria campaign, where "magic items" with 40K functions like Lasguns or Powerfists would appear.
To be fair, they're still around, just in Necromunda now.
For the longest time, I've been sitting on this one Slann theory that the Slann created the Tyranids as well. My thought is that, sometime around when the Enslavers drove the Slann from the galaxy, they prepared one last countermeasure designed to strike back at Chaos: a highly psionic species of extremely mutable locusts, incorruptible by Chaos itself and controllable from a singular point of failure. Their ultimate purpose appears to be to gather all life into itself, as if to preserve life in a perfect, incorruptible form. Had things not gone awry, they might have looked and acted closer to what the Lizardmen were like in Fantasy. Sounds like something the Slann would do, no?
The problem was that something happened. Either the Slann purposefully put the Tyranids into stasis, or perhaps the Slann were operating in another galaxy when the Tyranids were created. Maybe the Slann finally died off, left, scrapped the project, or some combination. It's also unsure if the Tyranids are actually exacting on the Slann's will directly (perhaps one or more Slann became / are the Hive Mind), or the Tyranids simply slipped the Slann's leash. If the Tyranids did in fact go AWOL, who (if anyone or anything) do the Tyranids serve now? Are they operating as intended, or was something lost in translation? Are the Slann in consensus in their thoughts regarding the Tyranids, or is there a rogue faction who approves or rejects how the Tyranids are being used? Were the Tyranids designed specifically for use against a certain threat, or as a general act of getting a mulligan on the whole "sentient life" thing? Did the Slann learn anything from their loss in the War in Heaven that went into making the Tyranids the way they are? Were Genestealer Cults part of the plan? Why are Genestealers (and not, say, Daemons or Orks) such a common feature of space hulks? How did they get there? Does the existence of Genestealers imply some kind of favoritism for humanity by the Slann? Is humanity in some kind of Goldilocks position in that the species is ideal for most Slann purposes, whereas other races are less suitable? And perhaps one of my biggest headscratchers: why do the Eldar not appear to have the same contempt for the Tyranids that they have for the Necrons? Do the Eldar know something humanity doesn't?
Or, going in another direction, did the Slann have anything to do with the Tau?
The idea of the Tyranids being an incorruptible WMD bioweapon is compelling because we already have the Krork/Orks and Eldar as precedents. Though I think you're overthinking it a little at the end there, they contrast with the other two on being a messy, last-resort, dead-hand kind of weapon -like one of the Imperium's own virus-bombs.
Perhaps they were made and held in storage in a distant galaxy but broke free somehow. Either by some accident or war-in-heaven attack or just the collapse of the Old One dominion...
Given the Old Ones purported love of genetic experimentation and that the survivors left the galaxy after the 'War In Heaven', only for millions of years later, a new life form capable of rapid genetic adaptability suddenly shows up from below the galactic plane in uncountable numbers... Maybe the Space Frogs had been busy during their exile?
That’s my theory. The slann counter death (the necrons) with the ultimate life form.
@@gabrielmarquez4029 Or the Swarm has already devoured them and absorbed them into its genetic repertoire...
Had exactly the same thought, though I figured it was because after the war they couldn't stand up against the new deities of the various races they created in their weakened state. The Tyranids also seem perfect for killing gods and Daemons because they absorb genetic material and never supply the warp with new souls when they either consume biomass or die, instead everything is recycled into the hive fleet.
@@dekai7992 that’s good and possibly more horrific. Maybe the old ones created the tyranids but ended up getting consumed by them. It also makes sense considering how powerful tyranids are psychically.
@@casanovafunkenstein5090 it could be that. I figured tyranids would be a kind of doomsday weapon to wipe out everything in the galaxy so the old ones can return and rebuild.
Always love these meta talks of the history of the game, not the history within the game. Also, if you wanted to dip your toe into more talks about the history of WHFB, it would not go amiss...
There's a certain tendency within nerd circles to treat The Lore^TM as an actual history. A Gospel-esque recitation of true events, whose secrets can be unlocked and whose inconsistencies are merely us having incomplete information. The content creator taking on the role of either historian or theologian.
It's rare to see content creators these days examine and portray these fictional stories as the _constructed narratives_ they are. Subject to changes in creative intent, corporate priorities, and cultural context.
@@Bluecho4 You are correct. The "canon" kept changing between editions. For example, I personally loathe the so called "end times" (I find the writing moronic and disrespectful) but I cannot claim the event did anything different from what happened in previous editions, it was just more catastrophic, less nuanced and completely idiotic in many instances, ignoring previous lore for shock value alone
Village of "Skeggi" aka the British slang for the holiday town Skegness, next DnD session is being held in the village of Darlo.
There was also Slann in Blood Bowl (second ed2?) the Slann did come down from the sky in space ship to play the game. The team did have a great focus on jumping and leaping.
one of the reasons i love 40k is because lore changes/differences can basically exist in-universe.
i imagine _generations_ of Imperial archaeologists or inquisitors building a comprehensive understanding about the slann and publishing it as some kind of ultimate tome of definitive information to stand the test of time. only for it to have glaring errors like "there are no records of destructive wars", because they just don't know. the galaxy is too huge to know it all. so you get different versions of information from all over. something that might be commonplace to the point of boredom on one side of the galaxy, is the wildest fantastical mythology elsewere.
even though they've been phased out, frog slann could still totally be cruising around the galaxy in modern 40k, but theres just so few of them that reports are rare. or simply they keep to one part of space, and the local humans know about them, but nobody else cares. hell, maybe their technological regression has gone so far that they no longer know how to operate their ships, and are marooned on wild planets somewhere out there, waiting for their chance to turn up in the latest novel or fanfic.
as someone with limited interest/experience in the world of WHF, the 40k lore of the slann is what got me curious about them. and even though i dont believe 40k and fantasy coexist in the same universe, i just had to start learning about them and the seraphon. now my seraphon army is the largest collection of minis i have.
MAGIC SPACE FROGS! Thanks for this video, the Slann are a fun and easily forgotten part of 40k's early days.
My early memories of the Slann from WFB3rd edition and WFRP were that they came to the Old World via warp gates at its poles and created several species including the elves, dwarfs and humans. When the warp gates (this lore predates the webway, I think Rogue Trader also describes the Eldar as travelling via warp gates rather than the webway) exploded Chaos flooded into the world and that was when everything started to go wrong. The Slann tried to create a species that was resistant to the corruption of chaos that would allow them to fight back against the chaos incursions flooding the planet, but these were never completed, resulting only in the psychically resilient but physically weak halflings. After that Slann civilisation regressed to the mystic/primitive state it was in during the setting's then current day.
my headcannon is that the skaven eventually became the weapon against chaos that the slann/old ones wanted, and the great horned rat actually surpassed the fantasy chaos gods. and if the skaven can multiply like they do in the infiniti of space, nothing can stop them.
If 40k decided expand the scope to say, another galaxy like andromeda, the slann could return rebuilt with lore that could still connect them to the old ones.
I really hope we get to see the Slann again in 40k. Luckily I think with the way things are going lately, I think its a case of when, not if. Love your Stuff Ian keep it up!
I've said in other places that races like Slann would work well as limited Kill Team releases. A few models, a small narrative campaign, no need for another large faction in the main game.
It would be nice if we had a Kill Team sized set of models for the Slann, an Unaligned unit that could be dropped into any army (except maybe the Necrons). Leaving it deliberately ambiguous as to whether they are the descendants of the Old Ones, or are merely another of their servitor races.
I would like some Slaan/Space Lizardmen as T'au auxiliaries.
@@nekrataali Now that sounds great. Slaan and Kroot would be to cool.
Kremlo came from space!
I like these vids going into the history of the lore development itself. It's something that isn't talked about very much and it's interesting to see how it has developed over the years.
The Fiend Folio was one of my favorite AD&D books. I love knowing that Warhammer had magic space frogs! It's hilarious that they became the Old Ones. I wonder if that means the Emperor was actually designed by the Slaan?
The Slann are still some of my favourite Rogue Trader era models. They were almost my very first 40K minis purchased, I stood in my local book store as a kid and held some Beakie Marines in one hand and a blister of Slann in the other. I couldn't afford both and went with the boring Marines...
Interesting short story in the Ignorant Armies Anthology touches on the Slann Warp Gate and their ships
lizardmen were my first army when I started my journey into GW franchises, still got some old Saurus somewhere, anyway, Space Lizard Man with guns and xenotech lovely!
Very interesting to me that the first inklings of what has come to define the Elf/Eldar aesthetic (when Ian mentioned the "Path of the Warrior" thing that I'm extrapolating would turn into things like Aspect Wsrriors, Swordmasters of Hoeth etc) originated with frog people... how different things could have gone!
The fact that stross came up with them is perhaps the most mind blowing thing i have learned this month.
I am mind blown by how much weird space frog men you can trace back to this one "teenager"
I read that as the Norse of Skeggi. Very different backstory, if they're from the wilds of the Lincolnshire coast...
I wouldn't be surprised- I am convinced Skeggi is a Skegness reference
@@redsman4486 wouldn't surprise me at all, Skeg-Vegas and Nottingham are not far apart, as I know to my eternal sorrow...
Great video. Would love to have more Magic Space Frogs.
Years ago I read the "Space Marine", "Deathwing", and Inquisitor books and I'm sure the Slann race was mentioned in one of them. If I remember right, one was captured and brought in a prisoner. I feel it was likely in "Space Marine" with the Imperial Fists.
Kremlo came from ssspppppaaaaacccccceeed!!! it’s lorehammer or yourhammer meme
i got into 40k back in 2010 and got into fantasy in 2016. i love the lizardmen and after reading into the necrons i asked a friend of mine if the slann were the old ones or if the old ones the slann worship in fantasy were the same as the ones on 40k. he didn't know, so i went on a mission to search for the information and kept coming to community forums and they all basically stated unanimously that 40k and fantasy are completely separate entities. but here it's shown that they're basically completely intertwined. perhaps they refer to a point after retcons have been made but still it feels like fantasy is just 60,000 (or whatever) years before 40k.
Slann were also in the original Blood Bowl, making their first appearance in the original Star Players handbook, though they didn't get models until years later.
My head cannon is at least one Slaan evolved into the Hive Mind and continued the great plan in the form of Tyranids.
Wow awesome bro, I actually own every old metal mini for the space slann and now with the beastmen kill team in 40k I can see them making a future appearance as a kill team
These... these are the Old Ones? I... Uh... ....As a Necrons player, I am deeply troubled with the realization that my ancient nemesis was a magic frog.
Im so amazed the amount of investigation you do for every video, you are great my guy.
I just stumbled across your channel & I am really enjoying it. I learned of GW in the late 90's as a teen with the game Necromunda, & the Warhammer RPG when we took a break from Vampire the Masquerade like I said it was the late 90s!) & then finally into 40k, BFG & finally the Inquisitor game with those huge models. I ate up the available fluff & it was a really interesting time seeing the transition that had & was taking place. The cost, & time associated with raising a family as well as moving to a rural area without a gaming community kind of kept me away even though my older boys loved the minatures. I occasionally checked out a PC or console game but didnt have time for that until 2019 & then Covid where an illness & timing had me stumble across some amazing YT channels that got me craving how the universe had changed & so I binged on their videos & the novels. I still haven't purchased any minatures & wish I had the small fortunes worth from back in the day, but I am enjoying a lot of the novels & channels like yours that take me back to how the game was 20 years ago. Thanks for the memories.7
Three Slann were the first models I painted in my middle aged painting renaissance. The spray varnish clouded and ruined them. 🐸
Once the Lizardmen book came out in 5th ed, the Old Ones created the Slann and left them to kindle the rest of the world. When the catastrophe happened that destroyed the webway gates at the poles, Chaos flooded the world and the Slann with their Lizardmen armies helped repel these early invasions while fostering the Elves and Humans (at least, can't remember if they had anything to do with the Dwarves). The empires of Lustria were still in decline, as the Slann slept ever more frequently to stay alive and the waking ones tried to decipher the Old Ones' plan for them as they were isolated from the Old Ones by the gates being destroyed.
those are awesome minis. As a Mexican, I actually think they could pass as artisanal-made decorative figurines.
You missed a reference to the original pre black library space marine book that mentioned the slann.
I believe they were being held in chains on an imperial fists battle barge, on seeing the xenos, a space marine scout broke ranks to rip them apart only to be shot by an apothecarys needle weapon.
"And avoid buying any for the next few months." I know a lie when I hear one good sir!
*Looks guiltily at unopened ancient 2nd ed Blister packs...*
MUST....NOT....EBAY......
@@ArbitorIan do you think the Seraphadon/space Lizardmen could be repurposed/tweaked as the Slann to simulate a 40K War in Heaven army? That’s something that would sell like hotcakes.
Charlie Stross! No way! The true father of the Old Ones. That's awesome.
Some of my first figures were Slann when I first got into it at age 13. They've also inspired my sculpting work (Diehard Miniatures) and I have a range of Eru-Kin that continue the spirit of the Slann and tell of what could have been.
Also got some of those Eru-Kin, they're perfect.
I love that the Norse Village is called Skeggi...I hope its a merchant village that specialises in cheap tat xD.
Great video. Slann figures are still around, check out Die Hard Miniatures Eru-Kin and Little Soldier Company's Tenoch range.
I've kitbashed together a small force of Space Lizardmen - I play them by as proxies for Kroot, as a bit of interesting variation in the Tau Auxiliaries. In my headcannon they're less well known creations of the Old Ones, unusual in that they have some of the Old One's actual DNA but very watered down with modifications (so whether they are Old One descendants or not is debateable), from the last stages of the war in heaven. They survived in a few star clusters beyond the galactic fringes, well outside the range of the astronomicon, and a few bands of them have begun infiltrating the galaxy proper in recent years as mercenaries, with an ulterior motive of tracking the resurgence in Necron activity.
Love all your content, but when is the next book club? :)
We are FINALLY recording it this Sunday. So with any luck, next week will be For the Emperor Book Club. We might even do it in person rather than on Zoom!
@@ArbitorIan woop woop 🙌 :)
@@HistoritorJimaldus We did it in person!!
Love your synthy intro music, very fitting 👌
I love that you put sources in your video. You know how stoked i am to see it. Please keep it up :)
Love these lore videos. Definitely my favorite content. I’m always amazed at how much detail you find in your research. Thanks for all you do!
I really miss those Warhammer scenario packs. It gave a lot of meaning to the battles and I remember how good the stories are. Some of the characters are still around today. Games Workshop should start these again, the Old World and elements of 40k would benefit. I’m sure they will sell packs of books and boxes of miniatures every few months if they did this.
7:24 this map suggests the Slaan originated from earth, I know they're much older in the fluff but I love the idea of them being some late-Devonian civilization that left earth and forgot it for millennia before their ultimate apotheosis...
Thanks for the war gaming history lesson. I find this stuff fascinating, especially the connections between Warhammer and D&D
I have to say, I shall subscribe to your content mate. I do have the likes of Luetin, frankly I can only imagine how much you'd improve with that level of subscribers and the additional finance that would allow. I note you actually include images of the source material, where for instance others do not! Beyond this your style is ace, keep up the good work and I look forward to more content!
The Necron codex pictured was actually one of my first pieces of 40K lore I ever consumed. As a result I've always seen the 40K universe from the perspectives of the races that fought the War In Heaven, and I love seeing all the extra bits of history in here. My 2 cents are that the early Slann lore of "no visible war" actually lines up well with the War In Heaven story later, since all traces of the Necrons concealed themselves after the creation of Chaos.
"errr" - Attributed to Loremaster Ian
These are my favorite type of history videos on old lore. Evil frogmen, fuck yeah.
Stross has come a ways. Frog people to sky hooking potus onto a Concorde.
I’m so naming random peoples kids “kremlo” on unprotected birth certificates at the hospital
It's funny to see that a lot of the old slan units are named after drinks.
KREMLO CAME FROM SPAAAAAAAAAACE!
I always viewed the old ones as more lizard like than frog or slann like.
Really enjoying your content
I love this, thank you for taking the time and making this video! :D
i had NO idea about that d&d connection. Such a great vid, keep it up!
I think they could bring the Slann back as something similar to the Silphen in Peter F. Hamilton's Commonwealth saga. Basically a post physical race who travel through space and time through something similar to the webway and manifest in earlier physical forms of their race to experience pre-technological life at different stages of their evolution as a means of personal growth, or just recreation!
You certainly deserve more attention and recognition. Keep the good work!
I had a few DnD Slann miniatures, the ones with the spears and ornamental helmet, including Ribbet Ribbet and Itzadodyl.
Great video (as usual)! The only minor nitpick I think I have is that the inclusion of Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 1st Edition's* material on the Slann was overlooked. In that mighty, amazing tome of GWOPA yore, the Slann are gone over in surprising, not-as-mysterious detail. TLDR version: The Slann are responsible for most things on the Warhammer world (Warp gates causing the incursions of Chaos, the creation of the various sentient races, yadda yadda). Still, like I said, minor nitpick and not a gripe. :)
Thanks so much for taking the time and effort do these videos. Certainly one of my fave channels!
(*Quick note: I guess it's not even a worthy nitpick, as I think many often don't include WFRP in the overall lore of the WFB/40k end of lore things. I do, but I'm a goddamn weirdo.)
I kinda want them. I could imagine them in both AOS or 40k depending on the weapons... I'd love me some froggy warriors.
Wonderful video Ian. Learned so much!
We need them now more than ever to eat all those damn flies around Nurglings and chaos marines with their big frog tongues.
KREMLO CAME FROM SPACE!!!
Every time he says Slann, take a drink.
I remember this picture so well from 4th edition rulebook, I always assumed it was an orc
I come here for my hit of nostalgia. I leave satisfied
At the literal top of my list in "keeping generally indoors" is buying a Slann Starmaster to convert into a Genestealer Patriarch because the enthroned metal ones still go for a cool $100 apiece...
Another great video. I guess I want to sculpt space frog men now...
Which minis were those highlanders you showed? They look amazing!
As a Lizardman simp, hearing about a Slann being raised by Norsemen, of all people, makes me
A B S O L U T E L Y L I V I D.
I think a video on the rangda would be pretty cool. Not sure if there's enough out there about them to do a whole video on though, maybe a section in a larger "forgotten bits of lore" type thing? Just an idea :)
Good one
Videos that also pick up the historical development and allow an assessment of what the idea behind it is or was are relatively rare.
Instead, it is usually a fan theory from some forum that is sold as fact, the main thing being that it is epic
Just came from a video that said brainboys where the old ones...
Love the video, the series as a whole, and that dope shirt! Keep it up my dude!
Funnily enough, the tradition of the Slann having silly names continues to this day with Lord Kroak.
Oh yeah, he was in that 5e codex too. He's persisted!
I knew that the Slaad were a thing, but I never knew the origin. Thank you for this info.
Love these vids
As soon as you said magic space frogs I thought.. Cpt Bucky!!! Brill vid!
So much I didn't know about the Slann, thanks for the history lesson!
Funnily enough, "Slan" is Irish Gaelic for goodbye so they are probably just that "bye byes".
Eygptian T800's too spooky for space freddos but like Vulcans and Green fungi confirmed.