Using a Leica M240 in 2022 - Do you really need an M10 or M11?

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  • @IzzyLeicanut
    @IzzyLeicanut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm using the M10 and previously used the M240. I can't really tell the difference except for the long lasting battery of the M240

    • @jeannesmicrofilm6561
      @jeannesmicrofilm6561 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You forgot the difference between the prices

    • @IzzyLeicanut
      @IzzyLeicanut ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeannesmicrofilm6561 Haha. Yep.

  • @jays.8621
    @jays.8621 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nathan, may I say one of the best things about the m240 is seeing that you have got one back in your hands and making content again after events earlier this year. I hope you are enjoying it!

    • @nathan_woodgate
      @nathan_woodgate  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the kind words. Yes it’s so nice to have another, I’m going to keep this one very safe😉

  • @paulsehstedt6275
    @paulsehstedt6275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    For my job, I use an M240 and an M-P240. They are great tools for a press photographer, and they are faster to handle than the M10 or M11. I see no reason to switch to M10 or M11. Keep on rolling!

    • @d30gaijin
      @d30gaijin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Curious why you say the M240 is faster handling than the M10 or M11? Not that I doubt you just curious. I own none of the cameras you mention, nor do I have any hands on experience with any of them, mine is an M Type 262.

    • @paulsehstedt6275
      @paulsehstedt6275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@d30gaijin If you want to go from single shot to continue on the M10 and M11, you need to go into the menu. On the M240, you just push the on/off selector to the next position, and you're ready. Battery life is longer than on the M 10. On the M240 you've five keys for setting etc. On the M10 and M11, you've to fiddle into the menu to find the same settings.

    • @IzzyLeicanut
      @IzzyLeicanut ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulsehstedt6275 true. The M240 is simpler to use

  • @phillipnguyen5049
    @phillipnguyen5049 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I sold my m10-p black and keep the mp240 silver. I love the color rendition of the mp240 over the m10-p.

  • @hiramabiff885
    @hiramabiff885 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I sold my M8 and M9 on eBay after I snagged a hardly used MP-240. It is an incredible camera and it doesn't sound like I'm kicking over a dirt bike every time I press the shutter. The best part is I got the EVF and I can use my Leica R zoom lenses on it.

  • @jensruckert4763
    @jensruckert4763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ... and there we go: a few weeks ago I decided to buy a reasonably priced M240 and can say that I am so positively surprised by this camera and its‘ outcomes! Didn’t regret up to now and more or less even wondering why I didn’t buy one before. High iso? Coming from film my favorite ISO are 64/ 125/320/640 this always was and is enough also with my Nikons - here I shoot with M2, M6 or M4-P and diverse Nikons, film and digital. Rarely I use 3200 and happy with the results as well. If you can get a M240… it’s a no brainer I dare to say. But as always: I shoot like Leica film or digital with native lenses mostly. Tried Voigtlaender, even own a 35 1.4 of this brand, but it doesn't convince me by its' performance. But that’s one’s own decision. Always good light!

  • @Baronic
    @Baronic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I do paid shoots with an mp240 and an m240. And I came from gfx and fuji x system. They have greater IQ but I enjoy taking photos more on the M system. And the m240 gen is more than good enough for me as a photographer. If you can't take good photos with it, the problem is with the photographer. Not the gears

  • @JohannKwan
    @JohannKwan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got my hands on the M11 at the Leica Store Porto recently and I really liked it, after shooting the M240 for almost a decade now.
    I no longer shoot professionally, so I couldn't justify putting the credit card down right that second and picking one up. When I got back to the hotel, I looked at the files and 60MP is nice and all, but I really don't need it.
    But it did leave me with wanting a second Leica body, so now I'm thinking I'm going to pick up the M246 mono.

    • @CianMcsweeney
      @CianMcsweeney 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you'll get it one day, benefit of being a hobbyist is we can stay a generation or two behind and only upgrade when used prices become sane or we have saved up for the latest and greatest, can just enjoy shooting in the meantime

  • @vickey59
    @vickey59 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Loved the M240 when I had it but sold it to buy an M10 when the latter was released. Whilst it is great to comfortably use ISO 6400, the battery life is relatively poor compared with M240 and I missed the option of red frame lines. The thinner body and higher viewfinder magnification were okay, but not as big a deal as Leica made them out to be. With every new M, the only major upgrade has been the sensor, but in good lighting, I cannot tell any real quality differences between photos I took on my M9, M240 or M10.
    In hindsight, especially with the pandemic restricting travel in the last 2 years, I probably should’ve skipped the M10 and waited for the M11! Anyway, enjoy the M240!

    • @turn-me-later
      @turn-me-later 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So what do you think of the usability of the m240 in the night time? Say indoor dinner or home environment?

    • @vickey59
      @vickey59 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@turn-me-later compared to more modern sensors, it definitely has its limitations. The biggest issue isn’t the noise, but the horizontal and vertical banding, which appears most of the time at 6400 or when recovering too much of the shadows. That being said, you can fix banding to a large extent with Nik Dfine. I was fine with using ISO6400 for family photos, like dinner with dim lighting or at home indoors, as long as you know you can’t blow up the photos to commercial quality. The colours may be a bit weirder and need correcting, and it won’t be as sharp, but it’s fine if you’re not pixel peeping family photos. I used the M240 for many years, using Summicrons only, and never really felt like I couldn’t take it out to dinner because of its low light limitations.

    • @turn-me-later
      @turn-me-later 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vickey59 Oh very detail! thx Vic !!!

    • @ezrashanti
      @ezrashanti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vickey59 So do you think 3200 is a good goal as a max iso to avoid these issues or lower like 800 or 1600?

    • @vickey59
      @vickey59 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ezrashanti it depends on why you’re using ISO 3200 and what the scene looks like. I shot a lot of wildlife in Galápagos Islands using adapted R lenses, and since there is no stabilisation, I had to increase the shutter speed and use ISO 3200. Most photos were taken before sunset with decent light and they all turned out fine and sharp, without banding. But if you are using ISO 3200 at night in high contrast scenes (light source in center or on a subject, with lots of dark shadows around it), the banding can be quite visible in the shadows. The banding becomes worse if you try to recover the shadows. If it’s just dim and not high contrast with lots of dark shadows, I think ISO 3200 is still very usable.

  • @marcusoutdoors4999
    @marcusoutdoors4999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I currently shoot on a Leica SL Type 601 with a combination of M and L mount lenses. Increasingly I’m enjoying M Lenses more and I’m thinking of ditching my 2nd camera, a Fuji-film X100V for an M body. So I’ve been reading extensively as one does as the nearest Leica store is a 5 hour round trip. It seems to me that the M10 offers little real benefit and the M10R vignettes more with wide lenses according to Jonathan Slack which would annoy me as my favourite lenses include my Ultron 21mm F1.8. So I’ve been agonising over whether to go all in with the more flexible but expensive M11 or just enjoy a M240 for what it is. Your video shows beyond doubt the M240 can produce great shots so thanks for putting your great images out there.

  • @gregoryvarano8002
    @gregoryvarano8002 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Leica M240 in a closer look is by far the better of the digital M bodies. When launched back in 2012, Leica pulled all the stops and loaded the M240 with features the M10 and M11 have omitted, Film mode is gone, if you shoot black and white the M240 film mode had presets for contrast filters

  • @mwales2112
    @mwales2112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love my 240 and really enjoy using it. I just can't come to terms with dropping big money on an M10 or 11. I do want one of those TT 28's as I said on instagram... Wonderful images Nathan...

    • @TheBumblebee84
      @TheBumblebee84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had m10 for 5 months when it came out while I kept my m240 which I had since 2012, I ended up selling m10 and with the money got some more glass. my decision was to use m240 until it stops then upgrade to m11 problem is that m240 is not giving up 😅

    • @mwales2112
      @mwales2112 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheBumblebee84 I wanted a backup camera to my black M240 so I bought a silver M240 today... 1 M240 is sexy, but 2 is a porn show...

  • @KeithHodgkinson
    @KeithHodgkinson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video . I think the 240 is a cool machine.Thanks for plenty of images which I very much enjoyed.Cheers.

  • @palmhousebookrestoration3284
    @palmhousebookrestoration3284 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Nathan, wow where do you buy your Leica cameras at such a brilliant price? I have never had a Leica camera, but I am just about to get a M8 hopefully in the new year, it's a good way to start using a rangefinder Leica, so I hope to get a Leica M240 fullframe for my next camera, please give me any tips to where you buy your Leica cameras. Thanks again Nathan

  • @LORDALEXANDER3
    @LORDALEXANDER3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing Video and shots, Am new to Leica so I just bought M240 3 days ago. I have noticed that you used f11 on all your shots with the tt lens, and f4 with the leica, Any particular reason for that. And any advice for me as a newcomer and photographer. Love your shots a lot especially with tt lens. Last question , were those raw none-edited or jpeg straight from the cam. My regards!

    • @nathan_woodgate
      @nathan_woodgate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      With the 28mm lens I was zone focusing so f11 helps with getting everything in focus. With the Leica lens I was manually focusing so the f4 aperture means I can use a higher shutter speed with a low ISO.

  • @osscatthemagnificent8471
    @osscatthemagnificent8471 ปีที่แล้ว

    I took a screen shot of the photo at 5.30 on vid - St Andrews Brew House - there is loads more detail in the shadows - my M240 - I find the files are very elastic !

  • @kevlarnegative
    @kevlarnegative 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would love an m240 but I can't justyfi it. Got an M6 so I can't complain.

    • @nathan_woodgate
      @nathan_woodgate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have an M4 and love shooting film but like the instant results from digital. Would love an M6 TTL😉

  • @girliedog
    @girliedog ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I shoot with a M240 monochrome and do very little to the files, in photoshop maybe a smidgen of clarity, I love how they come out of the camera. With the color M240 files, how much adjusting do you do to them to get your color quaility?

    • @nathan_woodgate
      @nathan_woodgate  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not much I just have a little preset that changes the colours to my style then a quick play with the shadows and highlights and I’m done. SOOC the images are lovely and vibrant

  • @baladino
    @baladino 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Nathan. I found your video whilst considering digital M bodies. Having a M3 and a 50mm Summicron has been wonderful experience recently. Leica digital options seem many and the M10 seemed something worthwhile. Thank you for sharing your experience with this model and showcasing your wonderful varied images. Realistically speaking purchasing a M240 or 262 in 2022 wouldn’t be foolhardy ? Am concerned about possible repairs being needed down the line compared to buying a M10 or newer model.

    • @nathan_woodgate
      @nathan_woodgate  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Buy one that has been cared for, these cameras are built like tanks and don’t suffer with sensor corrosion like the M9 did so you should be fine, yes you may need the odd viewfinder calibration if knocked but that’s it.

    • @baladino
      @baladino ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nathan_woodgate hello Nathan. Much has changed since a year ago when I asked you this. I bought a black M-A and a black MP; both purchased new. I embarked on B&W film and good results spurred me on to continue till now. Many of my images have won some awards etc. My home development is comparable to most international film labs and even better than some of them. I now look forward to purchasing the M11 monochrom. I use a GRiii and GRiiix for colour which is about < 5% of photography I do.

  • @sebastianoakley9583
    @sebastianoakley9583 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my M-E typ 220, but the M240 does look like a great camera to have too! - But I love my CCD sensor haha

  • @bernardlesperance742
    @bernardlesperance742 หลายเดือนก่อน

    'If your pictures aren't any good, you aren't close enough'

  • @OmarHamdoun-op9jk
    @OmarHamdoun-op9jk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    did you do any post editing or are these photos all out of camera

    • @nathan_woodgate
      @nathan_woodgate  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They were all edited as shot in RAW

  • @blende5.693
    @blende5.693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video,
    I’m using a M10R in black paint, but I’m also using a M9P. It’s definitely not necessary to have the latest version.
    But what I never would use, are TTArtisan lenses.

    • @Being_Joe
      @Being_Joe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, that lens on a leica just feels odd.

    • @tedbahas
      @tedbahas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hmm I have some TT artisan glass on my 240 and I really like it. I have the 90 1.25 and its a surprisingly good lens. Usable at 1.25 and really good at 1.8 or above. I also have the 21 and it is also very nice. That being said the elmarit 28 and stays on it the most.

  • @jungaIized
    @jungaIized 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video! You've got a new subscriber! The editing looks great - can you say something about it?

  • @JJ-gm4ck
    @JJ-gm4ck 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i use an m8 and it's more then i can handle at times.

  • @turn-me-later
    @turn-me-later 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the frame line showing when u use the 28mm lens?

    • @nathan_woodgate
      @nathan_woodgate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It displays the 28mm frame lines as expected👌🏼

    • @turn-me-later
      @turn-me-later 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nathan_woodgate Oh thx !

  • @bagustikus
    @bagustikus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you found some vertical / horizontal line on the results? Because i have two M240s and have the same issue. So frustrating me.

    • @kubowich
      @kubowich 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's called banding and occurs in higher ISO's.

  • @simonkimber1152
    @simonkimber1152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you just use the Ttartisan at f11…. What about f8?

    • @nathan_woodgate
      @nathan_woodgate  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      At the moment I have been to get the most DOF. I don’t think there will be much difference

    • @simonkimber1152
      @simonkimber1152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nathan_woodgate thanks was just curious… just got the 28 ttartisan but yet to try it properly

    • @nathan_woodgate
      @nathan_woodgate  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You won’t be disappointed 👌🏼

  • @ronaldcphotography
    @ronaldcphotography 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are these SOOC jpegs ?

    • @nathan_woodgate
      @nathan_woodgate  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No they would have been edited in Lightroom as I shoot everything in RAW

  • @valpho
    @valpho 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't understand your exifs. Why ISO 1600 or higher in bright day time ??

    • @nathan_woodgate
      @nathan_woodgate  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably because I have a f5.6 lens that is stopped down to about f11? Easy explanation

    • @valpho
      @valpho 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nathan_woodgate Many of your shots are like 1/250 or 1/500 with no people or object moving. There is no reason (Parkinson disease maybe and i'm sorry) to shoot that shutter speed imo.

  • @Ham-yj1od
    @Ham-yj1od 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I own M240. It totally sucks. When one owns an expensive Leica camera to justify the crazy price he/she paid for, will say good thing about the camera. The noise is horrible about ISO800. Just buy M10 if you have the budget, or else buy any other digital cameras and use adapters to mount vintage lenses to it

  • @moky99
    @moky99 ปีที่แล้ว

    As all electronic devices, there's a very high possibility the M240 breaks and no repair from Leica (after 10 years). I would be happy to add a M240 to my M10-P as a backup camera but that's a high risk for a job... A M10 would be more secure.

  • @davidnicholas3501
    @davidnicholas3501 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry, but you don’t need to spend £3000 on a camera to take photographs like that.