Please explain why it’s justifiable to baptize infants who are not aware of what’s happening versus the way John the Baptist baptized, and the way Jesus himself was baptized: as an adult. The Bible speaks of being born again out of the water, that baptism decision that you make to follow Jesus.
The practice of infant Baptism is an immemorial tradition of the Church. There is explicit testimony to this practice from the second century on, and it is quite possible that, from the beginning of the apostolic preaching, when whole 'households' received baptism, infants may also have been baptized. When the first direct evidence of infant Baptism appears in the second century, it is never presented as an innovation. 2nd-century Irenaeus treated baptism of infants as a matter of course, and that, "at a Synod of African Bishops, St. Cyprian stated that 'God's mercy and grace should not be refused to anyone born', and the Synod, recalling that 'all human beings' are 'equal', whatever be 'their size or age', declared it lawful to baptize children 'by the second or third day after their birth'" What is unusual in Christianity is the novel idea of denying baptism to people based on their youth. This was one of the many unfortunate errors introduced by the anti-Church Protestants during the 16th century, when they chose to abandon and deny the previous 1500 years of normal Catholic (and Orthodox) practices.
@@17cmmittlererminenwerfer81 I REALLY appreciate your kind and informative reply, it's nice to be able to discuss without insults or unkind words. I have to still go back to the many times that St. Paul himself talks about being baptized as a sign of our own faith, a personal declaration of our decision to follow Christ. Paul predated second century church. Again, I truly am curious.
@@HarveyHomeSchoolMommaBeing a baptised Catholic (obviously at quite an early age), i renew my baptism every single week when I enter my Church for Holy Mass and touch the holy water in the stoup and make the sign of the cross infront of the altar and being witnessed by the laity. I truly thank my parents for doing that for me and there is simply nothing wrong with any of it - from experience :)
You need faith first, then the explanation doesn't matter. Take as an example the sacrament of marriage. Jesus went to a wedding. The end. It would make more sense if wine making were a sacrament. At least Jesus made some wine on demand.
WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT BEING A HINDU? By Francois Gautier. *Diversity in Divinity and Unity in Spirituality.* Be Your Own Messiah. 1) Believe in God ! - Aastik - Accepted 2) Don't believe in God ! - You're accepted as Nastik 3) You want to worship idols - please go ahead. You are a murti pujak. 4) You dont want to worship idols - no problem. You can focus on Nirguna Brahman. 5) You want to criticise something in our religion. Come forward. We are logical. Nyaya, Tarka etc. are core Hindu schools. 6) You want to accept beliefs as it is. Most welcome. Please go ahead with it. 7) You want to start your journey by reading Bhagvad Gita - Sure ! 8) You want to start your journey by reading Upanishads - Go ahead. 9) You want to start your journey by reading Purana - Be my guest. 10) You just don't like reading Puranas or other books. No problem my dear. Go by Bhakti tradition . ( bhakti- devotion) 11) You don't like idea of Bhakti ! No problem. Do your Karma. Be a karmayogi. 12) You want to enjoy life. Very good. No problem at all. This is Charvaka Philosophy. 13) You want to abstain from all the enjoyment of life & find God - jai ho ! Be a Sadhu, an ascetic ! 14) You don't like the concept of God. You believe in Nature only - Welcome. (Trees are our friends and Prakriti or nature is worthy of worship). 15) You believe in one God or Supreme Energy. Superb! Follow Advaita philosophy 16) You want a Guru. Go ahead. Receive gyaan. 17) You don't want a Guru.. Help yourself ! Meditate, Study ! 18) You believe in Female energy ! Shakti is worshipped. 19) You believe that every human being is equal. Yeah! You're awesome, come on let's celebrate Hinduism! "Vasudhaiva kutumbakam" (the world is a family) 20) You don't have time to celebrate the festival. Don't worry. One more festival is coming! There are multiple festivals every single day of the year. 21) You are a working person. Don't have time for religion. Its okay. You will still be a Hindu. 22) You like to go to temples. Devotion is loved. 23) You don't like to go to temples - no problem. You are still a Hindu! 24) You know that Hinduism is a way of life, with considerable freedom. 25) You believe that everything has God in it. So you worship your mother, father, guru, tree, River, Prani-matra, Earth, Universe! 26) And If you don't believe that everything has GOD in it - No problems. Respect your viewpoint. 27) "Sarve jana sukhino bhavantu " (May you all live happily) You represent this! You're free to choose, my dear Hindu! This is exactly the essence of Hinduism, all inclusive .. That is why it has withstood the test of time inspite of repeated onslaught both from within and outside, and assimilated every good aspects from everything . That is why it is eternal !!! There is a saying in Rigveda , the first book ever known to mankind which depicts the Hinduism philosophy in a Nutshell -" Ano bhadrah Krathavo Yanthu Vishwathah"- Let the knowledge come to us from every direction.
🙏Sounds great, but no thanks. ✝️I want to Know my creator, and his son Jesus who save me from the Sting of death , by paying for ALL my debt(disobedience ) to God the Father/and creator. since he became one of us, By taking flesh from Mary Now God is my father because Jesus is fully Divine and fully human born of a woman, now HE IS ONE OF US IN EVERYTHING EXCEPT IN SIN(disobedience to God). Jesus is the only way to heaven, He came from heaven,he knows the way back. Prayer has many forms worship, adoration, only to God. Petitions, Thanksgiving and intersession God and saints.
If that is all one lives for; beer (Beer is great), drugs (have a family member who died from drugs, it destroys family and robs people from loved ones), and sex (using women for self gratification, and risk contracting a STD), etc. You do not need to be Christian to recognized it would be sad miserable empty life.
@@Fred-hk7wk Hypocrite? You know it is not a sin for Christians to drink a alcoholic beverage-right? Christians can drink a beer or glass of wine, that within itself is not sinful. However, getting blasted drunk and living in a haze of drunkenness is a serious sin-mortal sin.
Thank you for explanation really help to improve my faith
Great explanation🙏
Please explain why it’s justifiable to baptize infants who are not aware of what’s happening versus the way John the Baptist baptized, and the way Jesus himself was baptized: as an adult. The Bible speaks of being born again out of the water, that baptism decision that you make to follow Jesus.
I genuinely am interested, NOT trying to argue.
The practice of infant Baptism is an immemorial tradition of the Church. There is explicit testimony to this practice from the second century on, and it is quite possible that, from the beginning of the apostolic preaching, when whole 'households' received baptism, infants may also have been baptized.
When the first direct evidence of infant Baptism appears in the second century, it is never presented as an innovation. 2nd-century Irenaeus treated baptism of infants as a matter of course, and that, "at a Synod of African Bishops, St. Cyprian stated that 'God's mercy and grace should not be refused to anyone born', and the Synod, recalling that 'all human beings' are 'equal', whatever be 'their size or age', declared it lawful to baptize children 'by the second or third day after their birth'"
What is unusual in Christianity is the novel idea of denying baptism to people based on their youth. This was one of the many unfortunate errors introduced by the anti-Church Protestants during the 16th century, when they chose to abandon and deny the previous 1500 years of normal Catholic (and Orthodox) practices.
@@17cmmittlererminenwerfer81 I REALLY appreciate your kind and informative reply, it's nice to be able to discuss without insults or unkind words. I have to still go back to the many times that St. Paul himself talks about being baptized as a sign of our own faith, a personal declaration of our decision to follow Christ. Paul predated second century church. Again, I truly am curious.
@@HarveyHomeSchoolMommathank you for charitably asking this important question!
@@HarveyHomeSchoolMommaBeing a baptised Catholic (obviously at quite an early age), i renew my baptism every single week when I enter my Church for Holy Mass and touch the holy water in the stoup and make the sign of the cross infront of the altar and being witnessed by the laity. I truly thank my parents for doing that for me and there is simply nothing wrong with any of it - from experience :)
Disagree very much so, but can understand where it comes from
I dont really get how this explains anything...
You need faith first, then the explanation doesn't matter. Take as an example the sacrament of marriage. Jesus went to a wedding. The end. It would make more sense if wine making were a sacrament. At least Jesus made some wine on demand.
@@bravante5927 faith = believing without evidence, what you know isn't true. If it were true, then you wouldn't need faith, you'd have evidence.
It doesn't explain anything because it can't.
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WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT BEING A HINDU?
By Francois Gautier.
*Diversity in Divinity and Unity in Spirituality.* Be Your Own Messiah.
1) Believe in God ! - Aastik - Accepted
2) Don't believe in God ! - You're accepted as Nastik
3) You want to worship idols - please go ahead. You are a murti pujak.
4) You dont want to worship idols - no problem. You can focus on Nirguna Brahman.
5) You want to criticise something in our religion. Come forward. We are logical. Nyaya, Tarka etc. are core Hindu schools.
6) You want to accept beliefs as it is. Most welcome. Please go ahead with it.
7) You want to start your journey by reading Bhagvad Gita - Sure !
8) You want to start your journey by reading Upanishads - Go ahead.
9) You want to start your journey by reading Purana - Be my guest.
10) You just don't like reading Puranas or other books. No problem my dear. Go by Bhakti tradition . ( bhakti- devotion)
11) You don't like idea of Bhakti ! No problem. Do your Karma. Be a karmayogi.
12) You want to enjoy life. Very good. No problem at all. This is Charvaka Philosophy.
13) You want to abstain from all the enjoyment of life & find God - jai ho ! Be a Sadhu, an ascetic !
14) You don't like the concept of God. You believe in Nature only - Welcome. (Trees are our friends and Prakriti or nature is worthy of worship).
15) You believe in one God or Supreme Energy. Superb! Follow Advaita philosophy
16) You want a Guru. Go ahead. Receive gyaan.
17) You don't want a Guru.. Help yourself ! Meditate, Study !
18) You believe in Female energy ! Shakti is worshipped.
19) You believe that every human being is equal. Yeah! You're awesome, come on let's celebrate Hinduism!
"Vasudhaiva kutumbakam" (the world is a family)
20) You don't have time to celebrate the festival.
Don't worry. One more festival is coming! There are multiple festivals every single day of the year.
21) You are a working person. Don't have time for religion. Its okay. You will still be a Hindu.
22) You like to go to temples. Devotion is loved.
23) You don't like to go to temples - no problem. You are still a Hindu!
24) You know that Hinduism is a way of life, with considerable freedom.
25) You believe that everything has God in it. So you worship your mother, father, guru, tree, River, Prani-matra, Earth, Universe!
26) And If you don't believe that everything has GOD in it - No problems. Respect your viewpoint.
27) "Sarve jana sukhino bhavantu " (May you all live happily)
You represent this! You're free to choose, my dear Hindu!
This is exactly the essence of Hinduism, all inclusive .. That is why it has withstood the test of time inspite of repeated onslaught both from within and outside, and assimilated every good aspects from everything . That is why it is eternal !!!
There is a saying in Rigveda , the first book ever known to mankind which depicts the Hinduism philosophy in a Nutshell -" Ano bhadrah Krathavo Yanthu Vishwathah"- Let the knowledge come to us from every direction.
🙏Sounds great, but no thanks.
✝️I want to Know my creator, and his son Jesus who save me from the Sting of death , by paying for ALL my debt(disobedience )
to God the Father/and creator. since he became one of us,
By taking flesh from Mary
Now God is my father because Jesus is fully Divine and fully human born of a woman, now
HE IS ONE OF US IN EVERYTHING EXCEPT IN SIN(disobedience to God).
Jesus is the only way to heaven,
He came from heaven,he knows the way back.
Prayer has many forms worship, adoration, only to God.
Petitions, Thanksgiving and intersession God and saints.
The 7 sacraments.
1. Beer
2. Drugs
3. Sex
4. Party
5. Beer
6. Sex
7. Party
Repeat.
got the whole squad laughing bro 😐
If that is all one lives for; beer (Beer is great), drugs (have a family member who died from drugs, it destroys family and robs people from loved ones), and sex (using women for self gratification, and risk contracting a STD), etc. You do not need to be Christian to recognized it would be sad miserable empty life.
Perhaps these are the seven secular sacraments.
@@P-el4zd talk about being a hypocrite. Beer, and therefore alcohol, are drugs too pal.
In fact, alcohol is the most destructive drug on earth.
@@Fred-hk7wk Hypocrite? You know it is not a sin for Christians to drink a alcoholic beverage-right? Christians can drink a beer or glass of wine, that within itself is not sinful. However, getting blasted drunk and living in a haze of drunkenness is a serious sin-mortal sin.