@@sweetbobbybliss you women sacrifice the happiness of your own children for yourself. It's so insanely selfish and horrible. It's like your kids don't even come into the equation at all.
@@HoodrichShinobi So all men and all women are the same? All men deserve to be in their childrens life? All women do too? That's news to me. Last time I checked anyone can be doing shit to their children when nobody's around. It's ignorant to say such a thing. Some men don't deserve to see their children. Along with some mother's. Sometimes it is in the child's best interest to be away from one parent. My parents were happily married, I'm happily married, with a daughter and we'll always work it out together and yes for her. But that's something we both agreed to. You can't force someone else's hand in things. And I know growing up my friend who's parents would fight were always so depressing to even be around. And last time I checked, it's up to God to judge. Not us internet warriors. ☝🏻 Do you even have kids? Do you actually respect your wife? Do you watch porn while in a relationship? Glance at women's cleavage? Cause a child seeing all of that is just as bad as the child seeing the mom hoe around. Both are saying the other parent isn't good enough. All I'm saying is your grass better be the absolute Greenest if you're coming at anyone like that. ☝🏻🙄
@@HoodrichShinobi Wait do you know her? Does she even have children? That's just strange your making all kinds of presumptions about a commenter that have nothing to do with the comment. Women are not the same. Almost every single mother I know is now married.
Why? It's the truth.. Its biology. We humans are geared to think this way biologically to procreate.. Why procreate with someone who already has kids? That's competition and a potential hit on the longevity of a connection by the woman flip flopping and a waste on energy. A woman at 30 often has around 100,000-150,000 eggs in reserve. By 35, that number is likely around 80,000. Late into the thirties, that number could be 25,000, 10,000, or fewer. Women at the time of birth have about 1 million eggs and at the time of puberty have 300,000. Only 300 to 400 will be ovulated during their lifetime. Eggs once damaged or ovulated do not grow back. In terms of survival the best option would be to procreate with 19-25 year olds which has been done since the beginning of man because it was the best chance for survival and passing genes. You dont have to like it, but it is what it is.
So in a zombie apocalypse if you had to choose between an able bodied man or a teenage girl to be in your survival group, who would you choose. Obviously, the man because he has more overall value to your success. Stop being triggered by words and listen to the message.
@@relaxingsounds1386 and that's a problem. Nobody is less than anyone. It's bullshit. Single mothers already have enough on their plate, they don't need people like YOU making them feel less than. If anything, I look up to single mothers. They work hard BY THEMSELVES to provide a good life for their kid(s) So, stop being a prick, open your eyes, and being fucking respectful.
For a time they are. And statistically proven most women who get divorce choose to never marry again. The issue is you can’t fathom someone being ok with themselves. It’s most likely projection. Are you that unbearable that you couldn’t be alone? 😂
Ahh yes they are Im alone I'm a widow have Only been with one man. Not all women are dumb American women who like to sleep around bcos they have fallen into the hoe formula America sold.
Im 34 now. I had an active dating life in my 20s and I learned quickly that most attractive girls were never truly single. There was always a guy in the picture somewhere even if they weren’t having sex. Especially nowadays with social media
Plenty of hotter single moms out there, and their lives are dumpster fires🔥. U marry a single mom you're connected to her previous decisions in life forever
Did you hear her speak? You want that harping on you for the next 40 years? She’d be making your list of chores constantly. No thanks. I’d rather die… LOL!
Yikes. That’s kinda what my ex-husband said to me after we divorced. “No one wants a woman with 4 kids.” Then I met my current husband. I didn’t hide my kids. I worked full time too. I was reluctant to invite him into my home because it was messy lol. That didn’t scare him off either. We’ve been married now for 12 yrs.
@@michaelhoudecki3657 yes she did. She married a successful, fit, handsome Christian man which of course means he's a simp. It went from "she's not valuable to any man who's "high value" then when she is valuable to that type of man, it becomes "well that man's a simp anyway"
She is speaking for herself. She did not make a general statement. I don't understand why people are so pressed, and as she said, the idea that all women are the same is silly.
It's not about all women being the same, it's about standard base line of attributes that people look for in choosing a mate. There is always exceptions but exceptions are always in the minority. Anyone who travels alot, has children, is financially unstable, has severe health problems, large amount of debt, history of being unfaithful, been divorced, has many short lived relationships and so on will have more difficulty in securing a high value mate. I'm not suggesting she qualifiies for all of those, just offering some examples. Without context, these are considered red flags and typically correlate with higher probability of resulting in a failed relationship. Again, it has absolutely nothing to do with marginalizing or generalizing women, and everything to do with individuals (men and women) analyzing risk with pair bonding.
When I was pregnant with our second child, my ex (after cheating on me) said, “You had better be nice to me now. What man is going to want you saddled down with 2 kids.” I told him, “We can certainly find out.” I’m remarried to someone who values me now. This rhetoric is nonsense.
@@Gumpmachine1 he suggested that they were of “less value”. That is nonsense. The whole premise of value being based on external criteria is superficial and insulting. After I was a single parent, my value did not change. The number of men interested in me was lower than it was in my 20’s, but I don’t need or want to waste my time with most of those yahoos anyway. Why should I care about men who don’t truly “see” me? I don’t want a man who only loves me because I fit a criteria of what society deems valuable.
@@jenpoole7291 doesn’t matter what you think your value is because you don’t decide that, the market dictates that which is men because they’re the one’s that are going to have to date you. All men and women put value’s on each other, I absolutely guarantee you’ve got some expectations from the men you date, men that can’t met those expectations are less valuable to you for maté selection. Only attractive women get the luxury of living in a Disney fairytale, try being fat, bald, broke and a man, your opinion will change real quick. Women will often use “cope” to deal with this reality by pretending they didn’t want these types of men anyway because they can’t accept their decline in sexual value.
@@Gumpmachine1 Response to your now deleted comment “This is what women tell themselves to feel better….” I disagree. How one sees their own value is everything. This nonsense about what society sees as valuable is ego based and shallow. I don’t find having the attention of a lot of men to be a massive benefit. As a young attractive women I was hit on a lot. Men would shape shift to pretend to have shared interests or lie to try to impress me. That was horrible and heartbreaking. I didn’t know my value and put up with a lot of nonsense. After my, let’s call it “societal value”, went down, because I was divorced and had 2 kids at 38, I went inward. I discovered my real value. Now I have an awesome partner who sees me for the depth of my character, my insight, empathy and intelligence. Yeah. He is attracted to me too, but he doesn’t make me feel like a prize breeding mare. The men on here defending this line of thinking are buying into extremely ego based thinking. I feel sorry for the “high value” women who they might manage to persuade to be with them. People find love based on shared values and heart centered connection. Anything else is ego driven and doomed to misery.
@@jenpoole7291 I’ll just be straight, your beauty gets the men to notice you. Even you admitted your partner finds you attractive. Do you honestly think he’d be hanging around for your intelligence if you weren’t attractive? Cmon now
If a single mom is less “valuable” then how much is the value of a single dad? How much is the value of a man who abandoned his kid/s? In comparison to his single peers who are more mature, attractive, responsible and and affectionate he’d be also pretty less “valuable”
Single dads are looked upon ever worse most times because it puts out the idea that hes a bad mate. Men dont care as much about mste status as women do.
I’d say his value drops aswell although not as much as the woman because of multiple reasons. But women in general are more likely to take single fathers then men would take single mothers. Most men don’t want a single mother and for a good reason too. Cope more
Let's be real: being a single parent will definitely lose anyone points in the dating game. It's not the end of the world though and would not stop someone from finding a decent partner.
Some men actually want children and cannot have them, and are happy to have a built-in family. Hey enjoy being a manly man and a dad. (No, I’m not a mom, but I’ve seen it happen fairly often enough). That’s because not all men are as shallow as our little friend here.
@@misskim2058 Sure that's true, but I think most logical people in that situation would rather just adopt, instead of having to deal with another man in the situation who also has the right to see his kids.
@@misskim2058 exactly. I've met a couple men that can't have kids. I'm literally young right now, fertile and don't want kids. Men need to stop this spreading this rhetoric. There are a lot of women like me. Half my friends do not want kids at all or want to in their 30s. They better start thinking of single mom's because they won't have any kids at all.
@@misskim2058 You're literally talking about a super minority of men that are infertile. That's not a great basis for an argument. @NoName Having no kids is the same as raising someone else's. It's not my blood.
My friend met his wife when she had a five year old and a new baby - he instantly fell in love with the children and saw them as a bonus - they were happy married for over 40 years
Lol when I was growing up men would literally throw themselves at my mom trying to take her out and buy her shit. Men are not in short supply, decent ones are though, which is why they are worth waiting for. Edit: stop it with the mansplaining comments, I don't need you to rephrase his argument. It's condescending as hell. If you get offended at the thought of women leaving a man who is abusive to her so much that you feel personally attacked and try to tell her that she won't find love, guess what? -you're not one of the good men those women are waiting for. By agreeing with him you're basically putting a big neon sign above your head saying "I'm not a man of quality" . My mom has found happiness, been in a committed relationship for 8 years, and she's been proposed to multiple times along the way but waited for the right person and it paid off. Stop assuming shit. Women are allowed to have standards for how they'd like to be treated in a relationship.
As a 39 year old man, never married, no kids. Most women I have dated have had children. Definitely hard to find a woman close to my age that doesn’t have children already. I have never minded dating women with children. As long as the lady is the kind of mother I would want for my own children, I absolutely don’t mind. And if there a shit mom, it makes it pretty easy to see them for what they are, and keeps me from wasting her, or my time. I can see what this guy is “trying” to say, I think, but it comes off harsh. Things that are negatives for some, are positives for others. It’s hard to generalize all the context and content that makes ppl attractive to some and unattractive to others.
Keep on trying for younger and no kids, buddy. Hopefully you got the muscles, money and masculinity to see it through. Its much better than 'settling' as it shows a lack of respect on both sides. Also, consider getting some bloodwork done, I had this "wishy washy" attitude for a long time til it got fixed.
@tulpe A lot of what Rational talks about is biological. Men and women don't look for the same things in each other for evolutionary reasons that are ingrained in us and gives us the pulse of attraction in the first place. Men are usually attracted to far younger and youthful women solely for the fact that men, for millennia, know instinctively that the older a women is, the less likely she is a virgin and or/able to have kids. By age 30, women have a hard time having healthy children, so imagine how it was like before technological advancements to keep unhealthy children alive. And sure, not every women wants an older guy, but the overwhelmingly vast majority want a specific kind of man to bear her children, and usually the traits she's looking for in a man are conducive to an older man. Things like how tall he is, how strong, confident he is. His status in the social marketplace - is he respected by peers, does he respects his peers. His wealth and his stability. All of these traits are likely to be found in men aged 30 and up, and most women don't need to know this, they are instinctively driven to find men like that. It is why the biggest demographic of virgins are males aged 20-27. And it is also why most relationships with children you will find the man of a household to be at least 5+ years older than the mother.
Actually as a single man I am looking primarily for a woman who is LTR monogamous material and not out playing the field every day. After watching this video I think I should look into a single mother, she may be level headed.
Sure yea, join the same unclaimed naive blunts who married such women with 2-4 children, and then found out that while they were sitting at home with her children, she was going out to clubs and lined up queues of men. TH-cam is full of this. You never learn, huh?
It's not limited we have to be cautious because we can't be in relationships with just anyone or with bird brain dumb men! We have to have strong men with a back bone that treat us with respect.
@princesskf5157 of course you have to be cautious especially with under age children in the mix, goes without saying. But never the less the options are limited especially when it comes to men with plenty of them or men of a certain caliber.
@@princesskf5157 what I find funny is you didn’t care about any of the STRONG MAN talk when you gave your womb to another man. Men are not stupid. If it was that easy then you would see more and more single mothers getting married but they aren’t. Why would a man with option settle for taking care of another man’s child. Yes SOME will do it just like SOME WIN THE lottery but I’m Not going to bank on it.
Yes, they are limited.... that's a fact. But she is pretty and smart. So she does have that going for her. So it doesn't mean Mikhaila can't find someone....but it is limited.
What he’s really saying is “I don’t value single mothers as much as I value women who don’t have kids. I prefer younger women who don’t have kids regardless of whether I have kids or not”. There’s nothing wrong with not wanting to date a woman (or man) who has children. You can say you don’t want to date a woman with children WITH OUT needing to degrade and devalue women who are single mothers in the process.
What's wrong with preferring women without children? If you ask men 99% would prefer the woman that doesn't already have all the baggage. Nothing wrong with preferences
He simply explaining why a large majority of men DONT want women with kids and wild expectations on top of that and if they aren't meant the woman is happy to die alone lol
He seems to be thinking every guy is looking for a woman they can have their own children with as well. Me as a recently single man who can't have children, would much perfer a woman with children that's stable and forward thinking. Guys like me exist... not every man just sees a potential for child bearing.
@Pekom L no it's very simple Missed the point. A man who wants to start his own family and not take on yours is looking for a younger woman without kids. Not a woman whose older with kids. Simple simple. It's a general point and simple to get
When she goes on about her positivities “I don’t have an IQ of 100, I’m not a moron, I’m fairly attractive so I don’t think I’m gonna have an issue .”…I heard her dad’s voice all day!
@@richardpatterson4312 Not at all. She says she’s not a moron implying people with around 100 IQ or less (the overwhelming majority of the world) are morons compared to her. She then says she’s fairly attractive even though everything about her that is attractive (physically) seems fake (make up, died hair, lip fillers, eyelashes, fake tan, fake boobs ect ect). Would you still say that’s just a statement of fact with no ego involved?
My dad was stoked to find a mom to marry, he wanted more kids but my mom was sick and died when we were young. He got to raise more kids, be a dad to littles again, and changed their lives for the better. Now he's got my son's, his grandkids, to deal with which he loves. Not all men hate kids.
Guys that is an interview from before she married. It is an example for Single moms to let them know they shouldnt be looking for anything but instead value themselves and be hapoy by themselves and the eventually the man who will value both her and her child will cross your path. Just live your life and do your thing and the right person will appear
When I met my husband I had a one year old daughter and one in the oven. We spoke over the phone he asked me out. I told him the truth.. “I’m a pregnant single mom with a baby walking.” He took a long pause on the phone then he said, “that’s okay. Your daughter can come too.” Years after we married I asked him why he paused so long. He said in that moment he made a decision. He asked himself 1. Do I want to take on this responsibility? 2. Do I want kids because I have none. 3. Do I want to deal with any drama she might incur with her babies dads 4. Do I like this girl that much? He said he answered yes to all those questions so therefore he proceeded. Been married 6 years.
Then your man is an exception to the rule. Sure there are men out there that would take in a single mother however is it probable? No it's is not. Most men would prefer to raise there own kin.
Realistically, a man with options would never do this. But there’s plethora of men with no other options that would. So single mothers can definitely find men to date with no problem. It’s just the likely hood of the men being their “dream man” is very slim
I'm married to a single Mother met her 10 years ago with a 5 year old girl at the time, she's the most determined strong caring woman i've ever met. Brought her child up on her own while having a full time job no help from the girls father although they were once married, he basically doesnt exist. She got her through school with good grades and now onto college. Literally leagues above any girl ive had relationships with in the past so due to some idiotic statements going around she has no value. No man wants a single mother... what a load of shit
You didn't listen! No one is saying , no man wants a single mother! What there saying is that men prefer a woman without children . Women who have children USUALLY have to settle for simps. Simps cant get tens , so they take what they can get! I figure you and your misses are on the scale from 1 to ten,,,,, a 4. But as long as your happy , that's all that matters!
It's an automatic no if the girls been married before and has kids by that said marriage iam happy this dude found someone but some guys are not willing to accept just anything
@@bateseanderson2667 thanks for holding my wife with such distain but totally agree guys are not willing to except just anything thats why I married this women thought that was obvious
He's not talking about intrinsic value, He's talking about value as a potential mate. From a man's point of view, considering long term involvement with a woman and pouring all your future resources into raising another man's child is not to be taken lightly.
That wreaks of feminine energy. Fact is, men have preferences, just like you do, when looking for a partner. And single mommies are not high on their preference list. They're telling you this and then you "womansplain" their preferences away by using emotional non sequiturs. No one is saying you can't value yourself. Men are saying single mommies are not high on their preference scale.
No, a PERSON really is not. Deluded Western people operate under the fantasy that all life is valuable simply for existing but this is only a perspective cultivated through a dissociation from nature which is brutal and amoral. Everything our culture cultivates is sweet little lies from santa to every woman believing she's a princess. You think you're intrinsically special and have to bring nothing to the table until any and all biological worth is used up and you're faced with the brick wall of reality that you're not special at all.
I just can’t with social media. As a nurse I see SO many women dealing with depression and suicidal ideation because this world is a MESS. No kindness. No sympathy. Just a bunch of people sitting behind phone screens with nothing better to do than project their insecurities onto others. There is someone for EVERYONE! Your value as a human being is never LESSENED ladies!
We all face consequences for our actions. That’s just life. Women need to smarten up and stop making unforced errors. FYI the world is a lot less kind to men. Take a quick look at the suicide rates.
@@johannesswillery7855 Im not gonna lie. Some girls out there do, but some don't. Some really don't give a fuck how u look. Or if u act more masculine or feminine. Some girls out there are open to anything. U will find someone who accepts u for who u are. (Im sorry if this doesn't make sense or comes off rude. English is my second language and I really don't mean it in a rude way. I just want to say that not all women want the same guy)
@@wiktoriaw321 I fully comprehend your message, and no you aren't rude. I suppose I am rude but I am disgusted by what is happening in this dating culture. I am quite fortunate that girls like me but I am blown away by how many married or otherwise attached women will try to hook up with me. No doubt there are women who are loyal, kind and passionate and well worth investing time in. But in this world they are exceedingly rare.
well ik that you find your little fairytale that you made in your head very ideal but there isnt someone for everyone in real life and your value as a woman is lessened when you are a single mom and thats a fact like it or not. and btw most suicides are committed by men just to let you know and there are more men with mental issues itw than women difference is that we get on with it and dont sit down and just cry and complain like most women do or if men cant handle it they just, off. amd we do have sympathy, just not so much that we raise someone elses kids at our own expense cause thats just dumb
People are in love with the notion of a perfect family but in reality unless you’re mature enough and financially stable a child often breaks couples up. I have previously been pursued by a single mum but I’ll be honest I didn’t really want to be anyone’s stepdad when I didn’t have kids myself and you go straight into the relationship having to be a father as the kids biological dad did the bare minimum and was always with its mother. But I did the right thing and didn’t mess with her knowing I had no intention of taking it further than fun. There’s loads of guys that do take advantage by dangling the relationship carrot.
And your choice for not wanting a woman with a child is valid. That doesn’t mean another man even without children thinks the same. Ive known various women with multiple children marry men without children and they even take care of them like their own and are very happy. Life is full of surprises and you can’t box anyone in.
@@delcarmen1377 You re confusing possibility and probability. It's possible to win the lottery twice... The probability is too low to stop working because it "can happen". Just like dating sm... It ends up in disaster way too often to consider it as a viable option.
He’s right. As a single male with no kids, I will not even consider getting into a relationship with a single mother no matter how intelligent she is. Not saying it couldn’t work, there just are more disadvantages and baggage that come with the whole situation as opposed to starting with someone fresh.
@greene362 As a man with no kids, having experienced relationships with few single mothers with an open mind, I can honestly say I've seen more disadvantages than advantages and baggage as little as they may be and they are always come into play. Starting fresh is always better
In the end, it's really simple: Nobody's putting a gun to anyone's head to make them go out with them. And I have no issue with a guy not wanting to date a woman with a kid, nor a woman not wanting to date a guy with a kid. It's a preference. Like some people aren't attracted to people who are too heavy, too thin, too short, too tall. It's just preferences. It doesn't mean that person you don't wish to be with is necessarily a terrible person or "not worthy". Just "isn't for me".
There’s a difference between being a single mom with 3 different baby daddies vs being a single mom bc your ex cheated, was abusive, you’re widowed, etc
So what. There is no way you believe every man instantly knows what your problems are. So therefore, all things EQUAL childless women are more valuable than single moms.
@@morpheus2072Indeed, but thats kinda the point: unless you're widowed or something like that, you're not really a "single mom." It USED to be that the phrase "single mom" DID mean something bad happened to the mother: husband died or left/abused her. Now we know that's not the case, and there really should be a distinction between a 304 and a woman who was dealt a bad hand
If course, you'd be a fool to take her word on that " abusive, cheating" thing. Always find out the whole story. Remember, to her the man is always in the wrong.
As a former single mother (divorced) if I had it to do over I would have remained single/divorced until my kids grew up. The stepdad thing was horrible. Be very careful who you choose to reparent your children. It's MUCH better to be alone than with the wrong person.
As someone who as a child was in a parent/step-parent situation….why not allow the child’s parent to actually parent?? I get it, anger and hatred are strong emotions, but the child shouldn’t have to pay the price of two parents that can’t set their personal feelings aside for the benefit of the children they created together.
I did that, when I became a single mom, I had to quite the army because I couldn’t do shifts/travels anymore. After so many people around me said that it would be difficult to have a new men in my live because I had a son, I decided that I was better off alone. I change my job, finished my degree, bought my house and manage to put my son into a private school. Now I’m 40 ( my son 13) and I could basically focused on us both all this time. BEST decision ever!! Now everyone is like: you are only missing a men in you live! 😂😂😂 I always reply: No thank you!
Usually when I see people say "value" in this context, they also use the words "sexual marketplace" in the same thought or sentence, so that it's obvious what they are referring to. Not your value as a human, or a person, or as a member of society or whatever, but your reproductive value to the opposite sex.
@@Slohrable Yeah, it's a little irritating what she is doing in this video clip. I mean, haven't we seen the same thing done to her father more than enough times by journalists and TV stations?
*Laughs in engaged* being a single mom didn't stop me from extra happiness. This male speaking is not high value like my fiancé. My fiancé is high value he doesn't mention that he is. He is a caring man provides and protects. This dude here is a dust muppet.
Rollo is correct, she is experiencing an episode of cognitive dissonance. He wasn't comparing her to other women. He was talking in the sense of psycho-social dynamics
Attraction doesn't equate to being able to attract a good man. Especially with young kids in tow. That's a huge turn off to a lot of guys because it's baggage when they can go get a girl that is just as attractive or more attractive with no children
Dude forgot he was talking to mini Peterson for a second 😭 she knows her worth and aint gonna let some middle aged commentator convince her otherwise 🙏🏿 more power to her
@@johncrow5552 men have absolutely no problem raising other men's kids if the mom is a baddie. Your feelings does not equate to reality. Good try tho lol and this is coming from someone who doesn't have kids. Single moms don't have a problem getting men. Lol 🌈💃✨
@@johncrow5552 because men are still simps after all and a sucker for good looks or good sex. you say that like no single mother has ever gotten remarried. it happens everyday.
No, this is after she married a handsome, intelligent successful man, had a kid (kids?) with him ... and then divorced him and went and hung out with a bunch of balloon-animal guys from the gym. (Apologies if I got that wrong - google says she had a kid with her (now) ex-husband in 2017) Sources: just google "Mikhaila Peterson gym" and "Mikhaila Peterson children" and you'll see. That's not to say she's wrong and the guy in the video is right, just that this isn't a hypothetical discussion - at least not for her. The guy in the video is making an 'all else being equal' comparison between two theoretical women in the dating pool, who are both valuable human beings - but one has kids and the other doesn't. And the guy is saying that the one without kids is going to have an easier time of it finding a high value guy (whatever TF that might mean) because those kind of guys will prefer the woman without kids. I think the argument can be made without reference to 'value' - simply by saying that (again - all else being equal) dating a woman without kids is fundamentally less complicated than dating a woman with kids. It's not that the woman or the kids are bad, it just (self-evidently) makes the scenario a lot more complicated. The problem is that in these discussions a lot of these internet pundits talk at cross purposes. The guys talk about women's 'dating-value', and the women they're talking to don't hear that, they hear 'value-as-a-person'. And _of course_ everyone has equal value as a person, so to them the stuff the guys is saying is clearly non-sensical. Here Mikhaila is taking that typical confusion and compounding it by being unable to understand the form of an 'all else being equal' argument -> which given who her father is is an astonishing comprehension failure on her part. I think though if you understand that the topic is a lot more personal for her than for the guy she's talking to, then it makes sense that she would indeed filter the message through a morass of emotional stuff and it gets twisted like that. As for her split with ex-hubby, as far as I'm aware she hasn't really talked about it (except in this clip), and that (AFAICT) the ex didn't want to divorce, she was the one that was driving it. The problem is when she says she was unhappy and decided to end it ... that could cover everything from she was subject to horrific abuse to she was bored and/or thought she could do better. So she could be upset because she (as the vulgar saying goes) 'fucked around and found out' (perhaps even literally), and thus she's upset that her decision has consequences. Or at the other extreme she could be upset that something horrible happened to her, she got out of it, and now that she's out she doesn't like that (through no fault of her own) she's now locked out of a certain portion of the dating spectrum and thus unfairly denied.
Dating a single mom is not just the looks or how young she is. As a man, you must be aware that the time she can dedicate is much less than a girl without kids. The single mom is always going to put her children first and technically it should be that way. Some aspects of the relationship may complicate, like traveling, or you may have to deal with the father of her children. In the end, it's up to you whether you want to deal with all these aspects or not.
Forget about the prioritization, about which you're correct- a dude in yhag situation will be bottom of the barrel The bigger issue is that you're going to be taking care of a creature that's a result of some other man busting a fat nut inside your girlfriend /wife That's disgusting and pathetic
It’s not always strictly a negative thing tho, it just depends on what you’re looking for. If you’re very busy with your career and can’t see her much it’s actually better she has a kid or kids to keep her occupied. If she was single in that situation she’d be going out all the time. I also think single mothers tend to be WAYYY more mature and realistic about things because they’ve been forced to confront the realities of life instead of young single women that still believe in Disney fairytales and the world bending to their whims. Lastly her having kids gives a glimpse of what kind of mother and wife she’d be to you and your children. Like does she still find time for you even while tried after dealing with the kids all day or is she short and snappy? Does she always get up and help the kids when she’s needed or does she ignore them to browse IG? Those are things you can’t ever know about a woman until she actually has kids and if they’re yours it’s too late.
My mum was married at 17 and had two children with him. He turned out to be useless as a father and husband so they eventually divorced. She later met my dad who really loved her and took on her two kids too. Together they had myself and my younger sister. They've been together for 36 years and he worships her. She has plenty of value to him. Also, her ex husband's phone background is of her and he keeps a picture of her on his night stand. He will die a lonely alcoholic wishing he'd been better to her. Please tell me how that man leaving her as single mum took away her value? She actually gained value in becoming even more independent, strong, intelligent, confident and beautiful.
I am So sorry Jill. My fiancé just passed away on Valentines Day too. And my daughters and I are devastated. He was/is our Rock. I’m crying for You. 💔💜💜💜
My dad married my mom even though she was divorced and had a child from that marriage. He even adopted my brother when they got married :) been together for 26 years ❤️.
Oh god that must’ve been hell on your father I pray he grows up and realizes his wife isn’t the one if she got divorced she’ll get divorced again well thank god I don’t got a kid like you I would’ve blown my brains out if I got married to a woman with no value
She was very lucky. Specially this day and age. Where life is just so expensive. Its hard for you to marry someone who already has a child and you will have to support. Even in the animal kingdom they kill of the offsprings when a new alpha is in charge.
@@WaCzup Well I studied 5 years worth of archaeological evidence that says the Bible is actually historically accurate... But why are you telling me that? Do you think you're going to change the way I believe because you have a laughing emoji. My belief is not based on emotionalism. It's based on logic.
no, not everything’s male dominated he asked a question in a condescending way implying all women act the same when they don’t and she answered the right way by remaining true to her integrity
Her attitude is great. "I'm going to do my thing and be happy and if a guy finds that attractive then great" if not I'm better off alone. Edit: the guy interviewing her is a condescending tool and is "in way over his head". She clearly does not have "daddy issues" she has a great dad and mom
I thought he was just asking for the perspective, wish I could watch the whole piece. Like not her specifically,but "what's a girl who is in your position to do" and her message being "don't settle for less, ladies, but BE PREPARED TO WORK HARD AND BE HAPPY ABOUT IT". There are plenty of (at least at my part of the world) divorced single mothers, who are highly attractive and smart, two thirds of which are looking for a chance to get remarried(= actively participating in the market), but it's them who are condescending towards men, married women and the society in general - like "I'm carrying the heavy cross here, bow down everyone"))) wonder what their answer to that guy will be)))
And to hell with what's best for the kid. As long as she didn't have to compromise with a man she thought was good enough to sleep with at the time, that's the only thing that truly matters. It's not virtuous, is shameful. You made your bed and got pregnant - lay in it. And maybe give a damn about your child's well-being over your selfish self-fulfillment.
You missed his point, just like most single moms. His point is if a man has a choice between a single mom with kids and just a single woman guess what the average man’s gonna pick the single woman without kids.
His argument was that more man want women that have no kids. Ask people around you what they prefer. What is the answer? Do you think 50% or more prefer an older women with kids? Why are you so emotional. It’s just logic and reality
@@yilmazsertbolat4324 yes… and this person said that that will change from person to person. You know just repeating something doesn’t make it a valid point lol
Maybe no one is gonna go out of there way looking for a single mother but if he runs along and finds HER as the single mother the man might make some exceptions lmfao. Some people it’s a deal breaker, but then those people aren’t meant for you. Like she said, better to be alone when you know you’ll be happy.
True everyone’s opinions are different so anyone who says that you can’t find love as a single mom needs to only speak for themselves because they’re some single moms who are happily married now.
E x a c t l y. I don't know why this flies over people's head. Plus, you don't need to be special for a billion people in order to be attractive. You just need to be special enough for that ONE person you want to marry. I don't care if a billion men think I'm lame. As long as my man sees me as the one and only, that's ENOUGH for me.
Notice that she did not think of what was best for her child or her ex-husband. She solely thought about her own happiness. Now, her daughter does not get to hold her parents in her arms and feels that security and love. Now, her daughter lives in a broken home with all the chances of a destroyed life increased. Look up the percentage rate for step dads that abuse their step daughters. I guess Mikhailas feelings are more important than everybody else.
Came to type this but you said it so Ill just co-sign lol. My fiancé never saw himself dating someone with kids. I got divorced at 23 and had my son shortly after at 24. I just turned 28 and have been engage for just over a year 🙂. My fiancé slowly went from bachelor lifestyle to telling ME that HE was ready to meet my son and watching my dog while I went out of town and realizing he is ready to adopt a dog and get some responsibility 🤣. One thing lead to another and now we have two dogs, live together, and my son calls him dad. Plan to move across the country so I can go to medical school in 2024- a year from now! He is the man of my dreams and it's amazing to see what the right person can become when they want to! Wish I could attach a screenshot of our text thread lol- this man is on amazon looking for birthday presents for my son (his bday is next month) and we are deciding what couch we should get that can endure us, the dogs, and our child/our future children. 🤣 The right one always picks you.... The rest don't need to because they're not your match!
In general a single mom will have it harder to get into a relationship than a woman with no kids. Its amazing that this statement is so hard for women to accept.
Same goes for guys with kids from a previous relationship. Good thing society is set up that we all don’t need to settle and can choose to either be single or choose someone’s whose unique qualities make us want to be with them whatever the package. Yay for autonomy and society where women can be independent, earn what they need for their families and not have to choose men who think like it’s a meat market.
Harder not impossible. And it all depends. I’m an average looking woman in her mid-40’s. Single Mom. Financially stable. I have oodles of men, mostly single Dads, pursuing me. It’s all about phases of life. A 50 year old single Dad isn’t chasing 25 year old woman who wants kids some day. He’s built his family. He wants sex and companionship. And like Mikhaila, I’m comfortable alone in the event I don’t find the right person.
@@saltycat662 that in no way addresses the argument. Flexing how many options a woman has is like a gazelle bragging how many lions tried to eat it. Men dictate a woman’s value because they’re the ones who will date them. It’s the calibre of man a woman can attract and keep that determines her value, not the number men hitting on her. I’d actually argue it’s a top small percentage of men that have all the options
@@nancypalagonia1591 no the market dictates your value. If you sell a car you can’t just charge what you like Women tell themselves the dumbest stuff- I deserve super model because I’m that valuable
It helps when your father is a multi-millionaire and has given you an established platform from which to operate your business. So yes, you are correct in that you're not like 99.8% of single mothers out there.
@@LjubavLove3Telling a truth is being a hater? Let's be real Most single mom's have an average income. They are way less reachable than a single mom with a deep bag.
Oh so that's what it was. She has or makes more money than he does, so she left him. Heard that story plenty of times, haven't we? She definitely left because she thought she could do better. Women don't divorce their husbands and ruin their children's lives because they want to be alone
Doesn't matters. You'll still have to deal with a kid that is not YOURS, both biogically and legally. You'll pay for him, you'll give your time for him, your wife will giver her time to him but it still won't be your place to discipline him or to tell him what to do or not do. And if you end up having a good relationship with kid, bonding with him, and then the relationship with the mom isn't working out anymore, well say good bye to the kid cause you ain't his dad and you'll never get the rights to see him. It's beyond me why you would take that much risk, i'd rather be alone than to deal with this BS.
@@trunky37 I agree with you, there is a lot of risk and I would be extremely hesitant to take on that responsibility for a single father as well. I just think it’s unfair to categorize someone as “low value” because of their situation.
She had to insult (childless) normal women with an average iq's. The aggression had to go somewhere and she knew directing it towards Rollo would have made her look weak.
I can’t count how many single mothers I know that have had more than one child and married good men who have never been married or had children and who not only love and value their wives, but also love their children and take care of them as their own. And these women are loved, respected, and valued and are all good women.
I'm one of them. I was divorced with 4 kids. My husband now was divorced, no kids, my age. He married us. Like all humans, we all have had things to learn about getting along with each other, which takes time and patience, but he loves us and we love him, and we have a child together whom the older ones adore. It's true, even if it took work. Look for people with quality regardless of their situation. Then work together.
Morally we all have equal value, no question. On attractivness, as a man standing at 5'7" I can honestly say that I have less attractive "value" than a man at 6'. I think the single mother is to a man what a short man is to a woman. Life isn't fair, loads of people have physical and mental problems yet we all got to keep moving forward. Remember life is a gift from God and no matter your struggles, his love is greatest and most honest of all
Also his generalisation is correct. All other variables (such as iq, attractiveness ect) staying the same, a woman with kids by most men will be seen as less valuable than thoes without kids. In her case it’s different as in my male opinion from what I know about her, I’d rank her (both personality looks and intelegence aswell as kids taken into consideration) as a 8.5/10. Most women relatively attractive women without kids are on average 7’s so she is indeed more desirable.
@@Theoreticallyyou1234 I think he was talking about her immense physical pain. She's had something like two joints replaced already, and more deterioration in others. That shit hurts, yet she composes herself very well.
@@jambonjawrattle6126 a lot of people can be in really bad situations, divorce and get married a second time to a different person with a much healthier atmosphere, that’s not uncommon at all.
To tell someone that their value is less than someone else is disgusting. I’m just glad that men love to spout this off when they feel like this so we can avoid them bc most the time they say things like this YET will still get with a single mom.
You are missing the point. It's not that you can't find a relationship. Rather, you will have a harder time finding a partner that fits your criteria. Same with men. No one is saying that you are value-less, but your value may not meet the standards of other people. It's like me being physically attractive, but broke all the time. What's my value to the greater society, as far as dating prospects? Not very high, i suspect, and certainly not very higH BASED on what you would want in a potential partner.
@@entdv lol where? You don’t see that with single fathers like you do with moms. But either way, that mindset is pretty childish. I never said it was acceptable for either gender. Don’t make excuses why it’s ok.
Even though she comes from a wealthy family and has a husband that's got money and looks like a Ken doll. Obviously she isn't like some of these other single moms that are out here dating who ever because their lonely.😅
With your dating track record, wld you want to give someone 100 percent anyway? So you're wise enough for that gamble even if childless?😅Your child is a blessing, and in more ways than you're able to see right now.
Be thankful that the wrong ones are weeding themselves out for you. 😊 Saving you time that’s invested in raising your kid(s). Nothing is manlier than being able to provide and focus on raising good kids alone. When the system isn’t made with single fathers in mind, you’re constantly swimming upstream. That’s strength, so hunker down and try a different perspective?
@thelightinallofus4649 He's not putting himself down, he's being realistic. I'm a dad who is single and I've been dating for a while. The childless women walk away because I don't give e them as much attention as if I were childless. The women that are mothers and single moms I have dated have, so far, wanted me to help raise their kids, which I'm not willing to do 3 or 4 months into a relationship.
Has NOTHING to do with being smart or attractive. Why would someone (high value man) with options choose a 38 yr old and choose to play stepdad to her kids that he has no connection to, if he could get a 27yr old with no kids, HAVE THEIR OWN KIDS together..and the younger girl USUALLY has HALF THE MILEAGE! Every woman, in this case, is exactly the same. Qualities and achievements mean absolutely nothing.
@@MsAponte69 So her father adds a bigger value. Problem she is not like most women who are watching her and perhaps listening to her advice. Most normal women who are single moms are not rich, good looking and do not have a famous father. She is exception not a rule.
Missed the point. A man who wants to start his own family and not take on yours is looking for a younger woman without kids. Not a woman whose older with kids. Simple simple. It's a general point and simple to get
@@robertromero8094 Maybe the reason you have never met one is because they are not out there looking for male attention and keeping to themselves? Maybe you need to keep better company?
@@twillightrose13 maybe you should take accountability. Let be real she's down for unprotected sex with some dude who don't want her. But now that she has a kid she changed her ways? I'd have to stop seeing girls all together for better company.
@@robertromero8094 I'm more concerned that you're seeing girls. How old are you? Shouldn't you be seeing women? I'm just going to assume that you're one of the creeps that the good mothers stay away from.
I remember being in the Catholic Church and a woman was completely shunned by everyone because she divorced her abusive husband, took the kids, and had him incarcerated. I couldn’t understand how they could think less of her after going through so much
They actually do in this case. Given the chance, a man would almost always choose a younger women without children vs an older single mom....given that they are both identical in personality etc, a very important factor in this scenario. Same with women: If given the choice between 2 men (tall vs short), they would almost always pick the taller one if other factors are identical. Yes there are outliers, hence the word "almost".
"Do you understand that" looks at her like she's 3. Edit : one year ago I made a comment about how I observed a gentleman trying to convey his message. It's funny how much I've grown since this. I understand now. Lol thanks for the 1 k and you guys are all wonderful men, and for any man that commented on this thread ; my heart will go on ❤ lol all good things, all good things 🎉😊 basically I don't really care, but nice to meet you.
I keep saying this repeatedly this is an internet thing in reality I don't see this and I don't hear this. My sister and 2 of her friends are all recently married all of them were single moms.
What a perfect response. There is no “all women this” or “all men that.” Why? Because none of us are “men” or “women” in the collective sense. We are individuals. Every rule has exceptions. Cuz everyone is different. Even better news-you don’t have to attract a billion people. Find someone with your unique brand of weird. PS, Mikhaila rocks as a human. Whoever her man is is lucky to have her.
He’s talking in generalities which is how we operate in reality. In general being a single mother will lower a woman’s ability to attract the best possible man
@@Gumpmachine1 you’re speaking my point. We don’t though. We don’t make dating decisions on generalities-we make them on specific people based on what we specifically are into.
@@officialcalvinwayman but those individuals choices express themselves as generalities at the population level. If I’m going to work to be attractive to women or men then I need to look at probability to maximise my chances. A in shape man will attract more attention than a fat guy, A childless woman will attract more quality attention than single mother Banking on some exception, minority or Hail Mary is poor advice especially for women.
Single moms ought to understand that their children are a part of them and some men are reluctant to date them because of this. Children ARE a complication and many of the men that I know are reluctant to date a woman with children for big reasons. -single mom expects that he will pay for things like babysitters, trips, meals, etc., as well as helping to take care of the children, but don’t allow their boyfriend/husband to have an actual hand in raising the children -they are afraid that they’ll get attached to the child and the relationship will end, leaving them with no rights to continue the relationship that they’ve so carefully built. My husband was close to his ex’s son and, after they divorced, she refused to let their relationship continue and he had zero recourse -afraid the child will be resentful towards them (ex: say things like “you’re not my dad! I don’t have to listen to you!”) I’m not saying it doesn’t happen because it does, but think very carefully what you’re asking this man to do. He may not get important parts of your children’s lives, like watching their birth, hearing their first words, seeing their first smile, and all of the other things that endear them to their parents. Sometimes, all they get is the hard parts, like tantrums, messes, and having to learn common core math. Children are little savages at a certain age, even really well behaved ones, and you have the advantage of being with them since they were born.
I would expect a 35 year old to have kids with maybe 2 guys by time they're that age. It looks worse when they're 20 or 21 with kids by 2 or 3 guys already.
As if that is common but at the same time you are also implying the one that has 20 kids is automatically going with a bunch of different guys and couldn’t possibly be with one guy or you just assume she’s that attractive to have that many dudes lining up for her 😆
@@rafewheadon1963 not simping. It could mean she's a modest woman. You would have to look for other indicators or red flags to make a full assessment. But all I'm saying is that a woman without kids is preferable to one with kids.
I was raised by a single mom and I seen how difficult it was and the times she cried from exhaustion from working 2 jobs and putting herself through school. This mans message is evil. What do you want those women to do unalive themselves because they have no value. Please women look at the source of the message. We all have value and you are raising the next generation so it makes you a badass. He needs to speak to the fathers that left their families behind. And she is married, she isn't a single mom.
100%. My thought is if a man and woman fall in love and have babies and then something happens, like he leaves her or he dies then she now has significantly less value as a woman and human being because she was left or widowed? I mean come the fuck on.
@@sidneybuckalooTo top-tier successful men, yes. I don’t think he’s saying her value is totally shot, just that she will have a harder time than in the past locking down an older alpha male. It doesn’t mean women like this can’t have a happy ending, there is someone for everyone. She actually recently married and turned out pretty good!
@@gabelossus I agree. I just think it’s important to remember that love and happiness is a lot more important than finding someone who make a lot of money or looks perfect or hasn’t had any kids or hasn’t had too much sex.
@@sidneybuckaloo It’s just reality of life we all have to accept, you are ONLY acting like a knight because she is a woman which is very cringe and hypocritical. I mean there are tons of men that are born less intelligent, short or in a very devastating environment, what are they going to do then? They can’t change it, but women clearly see them as less valuable since day one??? Where is your “come the f on” then? Most of our ancestors are females, so just stop with the fake compassion already.
@@potatorekt7046 so you’ve decided I have fake compassion because I disagreed with the fact that a woman who has kids or has been married before is seen as less valuable than a woman who hasn’t? If that’s your opinion then that’s cool but you can’t tell me what I mean by what I say. I can attest to the fact that most women don’t like shorter men but I can’t say whether they see them as less valuable than a taller man. The simple reason I like taller men (my own personal opinion) is because I want tall and strong children. It’s just something I personally like for myself. There truly are some women out there that don’t care about height. I’d say the biggest difference between not appreciating short men, and women having less value after having children is that she did what she’s supposed to do. She’s supposed to get married and have children. I’m not attempting to change anyone’s mind or say that I’m correct versus anyone else. I’m simply saying that it’s ridiculous to say that a woman loses her value because she wanted marriage and a family. Especially when that’s what this old school idea of what men think women should be. We all need to remember that life is fucked up sometimes and can get pretty fucking crazy. There are plenty of unfair things that happen to each of the two sexes. I can personally say that if my husband already had a kid or a few kids when I met him I still would’ve married him because he’s an amazing man. I love him with my whole heart. Real love doesn’t judge. Real love simply loves.
I was just thinking that when I heard her respond!!! I could hear her father come through as she spoke. They are very deliberate and concise when they speak.
Men like him like to make women like you miserable because you wouldn't touch someone like him with a barge pole. You are extraordinarily beautiful, young and intelligent. Don't let that moron depress you. 99 percent of men would snap you up in a second! I am nowhere near as gorgeous as you and I am much older. I am also a single parent. I have never had trouble attracting men who propose marriage.
“Do you understand that?” The men who are looking for single mothers for whatever their reason don’t, sir, they don’t understand that. That tone was so incredibly condescending and disgusting.
@@howtodoit3074 single mothers are usually more insecure. Insecure men are drawn to that insecurity as their short comings will be made up for by the fact she has a kid and he is stepping up as a father.
I think people forget the power of connection. She has made a connection with someone and is now married again. So yes it is possible to find happiness but also possible to never find the one even if you have no kids. It is just life.
Connection? Hell na 😂 yall just be making shit up bruh she has a whole kid with another man tht basically saved her father mikala is just insane thts why she got plastic surgery n took over Dr. Peterson n his work
I would withold the applause if I were you. Marriage is a marathon and not a sprint. Do you really think Simp 2 will be able to wash out the rebound's taste out of her mouth? Lol. There is often a correlation between the number of pictures on social media and the amount of insecurity a woman has.
You seriously still think marriage is about "finding happiness?" It is closer to War than a Scavenger Hunt. You choose to make it work, especially when it all is going wrong.
As a 49 yo man who has been raising 2 kids alone for 11 years, I can say single fathers (who are custodial) have it much worse. I stopped dating 5 years ago by choice and am happier. My kids are teens, I have money, freedom, no debt except for a mortgage, 6 figure job, investments, crap ton of technical knowledge and certifications which begets a high level of self sufficiency in the practical sense. I feel sorry for those who feel incomplete because they're single. A relationship is like any other ship : it requires constant maintenance and work or it sinks.
A lot of people are praying for what you're living, man. Dating does not worth the drama. I'm trying and improving myself to be in your place when I'm 49
same here...I was 48 and had two full time children in grade school....most women my age, their children were in high school etc....got tired of women wanting me to apologize for raising my kids....found a lady in Ukraine with a 5 year old....1000 hours of conversation and now 13 years later...the 5 year old is freshman in college...and our 11 year old is on the boxing team....wasnt at all easy but she had traditional family values...
No child support from the mother (no idea where she is), no help from my family or her family. I get Canada Family Benefits because I continue to lower my taxable income by investing. I also get contributions from feds toward their education savings plan. We don't have to worry.@@micro61micro
Thanks for sharing daniel. My mother left me and my two brothers alone with my father who went through war, lost his mother and father and at the same time literally took care of us 3 brothers. Now we are a little bit older but he cares about us more than anything. He doesnt want any relationships and just wants the best for us.
She’s freaking Jordan freaking Peterson’s daughter, she ain’t no regular single baby mama. She has a strong father who nurtured her mind into something amazing. She’s very high value.
@@user-ku2tq1js2v And either Jordan or his son could beat you in chess ez money, what about it? Or literally just hire someone to take care of that running mouth if they wanted to, y'know considering they're at elite status in society, and you're not? No one would know. It would be handled cleanly. Good thing they're moral and don't know you exist, nor would even give a shit if they heard this "high-test alpha" ranting. He's lifted MILLIONS of men from pointless suffering and enlivened the Western masculine spirit. That's STRONG strong. Beyond strong. Heroic. He benched 225 pounds and lived around guys who went to work on oil rigs LMAO If you were in Peterson's position you would've cracked under the pressure of the SJW riots and intense lines of questioning in the all the interviews. Being on stage and slammed with every political accusation you could imagine and he never fell, he successfully swatted off every little petty attack and every attempt at outright character assassination and stayed relevant, only becoming more and more successful. ATNI-FRAGILE. Years of it. You speak a strong game but his strength exceeds yours, in sheer verbal articulate ability, he's robust and immovable unlike you and has better general comprehension of the world by facing it head-on. You couldn't have braved the harsh Canadian winters with nothing to do but drink, smoke and race cars down the road. He's handy and crafty always fixing things like a man should and his father took him hunting as a BOY in the brutal cold. If you were having AKATHISIA due to benzo addiction there's no way you would have wanted to choose to live and you couldn't have gone into the coma he did to conquer it because you don't have the links in Russia, and it would have gotten to you and eventually extinguished your will. You have no influence. He's rich. He's tough. He's a genius. A respected scientist and professor and yet remains a REAL MAN. He's adored and respected with a very successful series of careers and a wonderful family he has taken care of and loved. His genetic line will trace into perpetuity, where yoourrrss...ah well, that's a different story, clearly. You don't end up that bitter when you've successfully procreated. Good luck finding someone. Bend your arrogant snivelling knee to your next boss just to make a living wage. If you have any friends I'll bet they're just as miserable and dysfunctional as you. Only weak men run their mouths when they're in a lowly position. JP and Andrew Tate have EARNED it baby.
Saying stuff like this to a single mum is bullying, but what made mikhaila's response beautiful is not just what she said but her disposition, she didn't go all emotional and raise her voice but rather displayed emotional maturity. 💯
@@dallasgauthier3543 You are correct. I am a single father, and I run through girls like this looking for fathers for kids that aren't theirs, yeah right. I hit and quit these women, pump and dump, lol. That is this womans reality because when her looks run out she won't even get that. Unless she settles for les.. HAHAHAHAAAAAAAA
You're absolutely right. When you stop the stress inducing rituals of dating, especially if you think you're going to find a decent mate at "da club", and it's meant to be for you, it will fall right into place. It happened to me and she was a single mom. I married a ready made family.
@@Natehiggerstha3rd No. His statements were false: women are not of less value for . You can not change the value of people. We are priceless. Nor are children “baggage”: children are gifts. Plenty of men will go for the woman they want whether she has children or not. I’ve already dated two men w/o trying as a single mom of three (shortly after divorce), with multiple additional offers to date from others which I made clear from the get-go I didn’t see them this way. These men know I have children. His statements and attitude are that of a pseudointellectual misogynist who wanted to do what they always do: attempt to devalue women in a baseless attempt to make himself think that men are the superior sex: aka sexism and baseless judgment…projecting because women likely don’t find him or his attitude toward women, attractive. She calmly and eloquently refuted him (and went on to marry a rich and successful man as a single mom, proving his discriminatory and baseless, ignorant stereotype, wrong).
I'm so happy that you got married and that this goes to show that not all women are the same it was a very beautiful wedding you had congratulations mikhaila.
Mom divorced w 2 small kids waay back had no prob remarrying a good guy st 40. Still rockin after 45 yrs. Sister, divorced w 2 kids, remarried great guy at 39. Together 10 yrs. Cousin, widowed w 3 older kids. Remarried in her 40s. Together at least 20 yrs.
@@kingkufu3122 Of course they don't. But these convenient pop assumptions are not hard and fast 'rules.' They are prevailing beliefs by certain types of people that sometimes prove untrue.
His observation is largely based on general trends based on social science. You know, the same methodology that her father employs in arriving at his insights. As with every general trend in life, there will always be exceptions. That’s why it’s never wise to mistake general trends/rules for inescapable/universal truths. To her credit, she’s smart enough to realize this truth about life.
my mom was a single mom, she had two jobs and two kids and is very intelligent. she has a husband and her own business now, and i’m proud to say that she is mom, especially considering she basically raised us on her own with a little help from my grandparents. she did everything to support us. she valued her family over everything and that in itself is admirable. just goes to show that single moms are not at all less than anyone else.
@@hurricanetortillla doesn't matter bro, stuff like this is a rarity and also anecdote is worth nothing. Use data if you want to make an argument unless you want to say "there are exceptions"
My mother had 5 children and was single my step father was one of the most brilliant men I’d ever met . I taught him to read when I was in 5 th grade . He caught on very quickly he could build u a house a wall work on any type of car and do electric work and plumbing most of all he treated my mother like the queen she was . No better man could I ever have had in my life . If I end up being half the man he was it would be a miracle !
@@jmoe4896 Or women these days have ridiculously high standards and overvalue themselves because of guys over validating them plus society tells men to do better when many times it's the women that should lower their standards to a reasonable level. Most women won't date a tradesman because it SEEMS low status when in reality a lot of those guys make good money, so is it really that those guys are lacking or is it that women think those guys are lacking because women primarily marry for money and status and can't assess the situation accurately?
The same people taking issue with him saying high and low value are the same people who support abortion guaranteed. Taking the life and all value of an innocent baby for mostly selfish reasons but acting like they have some sort of moral superiority. Then act offended when you acknowledge people have values in certain situations.
Full Episode: th-cam.com/video/BYDz5U9qw8U/w-d-xo.html
Love that guy, but Mikhaila you absolutely nailed it, women are not a monolith and even my MGTOW philosophy needs to recognize that. Thank You
@@sweetbobbybliss you women sacrifice the happiness of your own children for yourself. It's so insanely selfish and horrible. It's like your kids don't even come into the equation at all.
@@HoodrichShinobi So all men and all women are the same?
All men deserve to be in their childrens life? All women do too?
That's news to me.
Last time I checked anyone can be doing shit to their children when nobody's around.
It's ignorant to say such a thing.
Some men don't deserve to see their children. Along with some mother's.
Sometimes it is in the child's best interest to be away from one parent.
My parents were happily married, I'm happily married, with a daughter and we'll always work it out together and yes for her.
But that's something we both agreed to. You can't force someone else's hand in things. And I know growing up my friend who's parents would fight were always so depressing to even be around.
And last time I checked, it's up to God to judge. Not us internet warriors. ☝🏻
Do you even have kids? Do you actually respect your wife? Do you watch porn while in a relationship? Glance at women's cleavage?
Cause a child seeing all of that is just as bad as the child seeing the mom hoe around.
Both are saying the other parent isn't good enough.
All I'm saying is your grass better be the absolute Greenest if you're coming at anyone like that. ☝🏻🙄
@@HoodrichShinobi “imma do what’s right for me”
@@HoodrichShinobi Wait do you know her? Does she even have children? That's just strange your making all kinds of presumptions about a commenter that have nothing to do with the comment.
Women are not the same. Almost every single mother I know is now married.
I never trust anyone who says things like “high value, less value” in regards to people.
Undervalued comment
Why? It's the truth.. Its biology. We humans are geared to think this way biologically to procreate.. Why procreate with someone who already has kids? That's competition and a potential hit on the longevity of a connection by the woman flip flopping and a waste on energy. A woman at 30 often has around 100,000-150,000 eggs in reserve. By 35, that number is likely around 80,000. Late into the thirties, that number could be 25,000, 10,000, or fewer. Women at the time of birth have about 1 million eggs and at the time of puberty have 300,000. Only 300 to 400 will be ovulated during their lifetime. Eggs once damaged or ovulated do not grow back. In terms of survival the best option would be to procreate with 19-25 year olds which has been done since the beginning of man because it was the best chance for survival and passing genes. You dont have to like it, but it is what it is.
It’s value in the dating market. Something you clearly don’t understand
So in a zombie apocalypse if you had to choose between an able bodied man or a teenage girl to be in your survival group, who would you choose. Obviously, the man because he has more overall value to your success. Stop being triggered by words and listen to the message.
Thank you kind person 👍
I hate when people say "do you understand that?" when they finished talking.
So condescending.
Must just happen to woman, cause im 24 and in my last 14 years i didnt hear it once, you understand that?
Yeah shit’s cringe.
@@vynd287 you’re sad
@@eclipse98100 must be hard to not understand, you get that?
Consider the source.
Older women, single women, childless women and single moms ALL don’t want this guy. Does he understand that ?
😂 Love it ! !
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Single women with kids are less attractive to men. Not hard to figure out.
@@relaxingsounds1386 and that's a problem. Nobody is less than anyone. It's bullshit. Single mothers already have enough on their plate, they don't need people like YOU making them feel less than. If anything, I look up to single mothers. They work hard BY THEMSELVES to provide a good life for their kid(s) So, stop being a prick, open your eyes, and being fucking respectful.
Hahaha, not on the same line, not same sympathy
I think highly of Peterson, but women say they’re okay with being alone and single and are never alone nor single.
not true.
For a time they are. And statistically proven most women who get divorce choose to never marry again. The issue is you can’t fathom someone being ok with themselves. It’s most likely projection. Are you that unbearable that you couldn’t be alone? 😂
I'm alone, I didn't even have a single date since I divorced, three years ago and I'm looking forward to not changing that.
Ahh yes they are Im alone I'm a widow have Only been with one man. Not all women are dumb American women who like to sleep around bcos they have fallen into the hoe formula America sold.
Im 34 now. I had an active dating life in my 20s and I learned quickly that most attractive girls were never truly single. There was always a guy in the picture somewhere even if they weren’t having sex. Especially nowadays with social media
‘I’m fairly attractive I don’t think I’m gonna have an issue’ she’s not wrong 😅
Plenty of hotter single moms out there, and their lives are dumpster fires🔥.
U marry a single mom you're connected to her previous decisions in life forever
Did you hear her speak? You want that harping on you for the next 40 years? She’d be making your list of chores constantly. No thanks. I’d rather die… LOL!
@Steve D omg what's up with all the trolls on this channel...
@@HisFanciness I'm a girl actually... and are you saying she's not??? Mikhaila is beautiful inside and out...
@@HisFanciness maybe... or maybe he's just a negative troll
Yikes. That’s kinda what my ex-husband said to me after we divorced. “No one wants a woman with 4 kids.” Then I met my current husband. I didn’t hide my kids. I worked full time too. I was reluctant to invite him into my home because it was messy lol. That didn’t scare him off either. We’ve been married now for 12 yrs.
Cause he couldn't do better
poor guy
Stay blessed
@@mikitesfaye8079 are jelous no woman wants you..
And who the fuck wants a divorced man? 😂
This aged well lol Now she’s married to someone who looks like he came out of a fairy tale
No it proves him right even more. She contradicted everything she said by getting married. She found someone she was Familiar with
Didn't she get divorced?
@@cephas5053 yep
For real! They both look like Disney characters 💗💗
@@Serpents_and_Doves she got divorced before this interview, and then she recently remarried someone else.
She found a simp to rob
Did she? She married again now or something?
@michaelhoudecki3657
Of course she did she is hypergamous
Remarried a better guy
@@m.draven477 lol I'm surprised. Narshty herpes havin single mahm got married to a SIMP!
Her husband is happy and you are miserable
@@michaelhoudecki3657 yes she did. She married a successful, fit, handsome Christian man which of course means he's a simp. It went from "she's not valuable to any man who's "high value" then when she is valuable to that type of man, it becomes "well that man's a simp anyway"
She is speaking for herself. She did not make a general statement. I don't understand why people are so pressed, and as she said, the idea that all women are the same is silly.
Every single women thinks she's different and says the same thing. Men do not care about IQ. No woman is happy by herself past 35.
But to cling so strongly to the fact that people are unique that it’s impossible for you to understand generalizations is counterproductive.
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It's not about all women being the same, it's about standard base line of attributes that people look for in choosing a mate. There is always exceptions but exceptions are always in the minority. Anyone who travels alot, has children, is financially unstable, has severe health problems, large amount of debt, history of being unfaithful, been divorced, has many short lived relationships and so on will have more difficulty in securing a high value mate. I'm not suggesting she qualifiies for all of those, just offering some examples. Without context, these are considered red flags and typically correlate with higher probability of resulting in a failed relationship. Again, it has absolutely nothing to do with marginalizing or generalizing women, and everything to do with individuals (men and women) analyzing risk with pair bonding.
The idea that, that’s what he mean is silly.
When I was pregnant with our second child, my ex (after cheating on me) said, “You had better be nice to me now. What man is going to want you saddled down with 2 kids.”
I told him, “We can certainly find out.”
I’m remarried to someone who values me now.
This rhetoric is nonsense.
That’s nothing to do with this man’s argument. He never suggested that single mothers can’t attract any men.
@@Gumpmachine1 he suggested that they were of “less value”. That is nonsense. The whole premise of value being based on external criteria is superficial and insulting.
After I was a single parent, my value did not change. The number of men interested in me was lower than it was in my 20’s, but I don’t need or want to waste my time with most of those yahoos anyway.
Why should I care about men who don’t truly “see” me?
I don’t want a man who only loves me because I fit a criteria of what society deems valuable.
@@jenpoole7291 doesn’t matter what you think your value is because you don’t decide that, the market dictates that which is men because they’re the one’s that are going to have to date you.
All men and women put value’s on each other, I absolutely guarantee you’ve got some expectations from the men you date, men that can’t met those expectations are less valuable to you for maté selection.
Only attractive women get the luxury of living in a Disney fairytale, try being fat, bald, broke and a man, your opinion will change real quick.
Women will often use “cope” to deal with this reality by pretending they didn’t want these types of men anyway because they can’t accept their decline in sexual value.
@@Gumpmachine1
Response to your now deleted comment “This is what women tell themselves to feel better….”
I disagree. How one sees their own value is everything. This nonsense about what society sees as valuable is ego based and shallow.
I don’t find having the attention of a lot of men to be a massive benefit. As a young attractive women I was hit on a lot. Men would shape shift to pretend to have shared interests or lie to try to impress me. That was horrible and heartbreaking.
I didn’t know my value and put up with a lot of nonsense.
After my, let’s call it “societal value”, went down, because I was divorced and had 2 kids at 38, I went inward. I discovered my real value.
Now I have an awesome partner who sees me for the depth of my character, my insight, empathy and intelligence. Yeah.
He is attracted to me too, but he doesn’t make me feel like a prize breeding mare.
The men on here defending this line of thinking are buying into extremely ego based thinking.
I feel sorry for the “high value” women who they might manage to persuade to be with them.
People find love based on shared values and heart centered connection. Anything else is ego driven and doomed to misery.
@@jenpoole7291 I’ll just be straight, your beauty gets the men to notice you.
Even you admitted your partner finds you attractive. Do you honestly think he’d be hanging around for your intelligence if you weren’t attractive?
Cmon now
If a single mom is less “valuable” then how much is the value of a single dad? How much is the value of a man who abandoned his kid/s?
In comparison to his single peers who are more mature, attractive, responsible and and affectionate he’d be also pretty less “valuable”
Single dads are looked upon ever worse most times because it puts out the idea that hes a bad mate. Men dont care as much about mste status as women do.
I’d say his value drops aswell although not as much as the woman because of multiple reasons. But women in general are more likely to take single fathers then men would take single mothers.
Most men don’t want a single mother and for a good reason too. Cope more
@@squilliamfreakyson the data shows men are far more likely to date single mothers then the inverse.
@@aKjohn8798 if by date you mean smash or have a temporary relationship to smash then yeah but to wife them up or marry no
Why so emotional? He just said LESS valuable.
Look at her. She clearly has no problems. Children are a blessing!
Doesn’t change the fact that they aren’t my children. Not the type of blessing I want…
Women like lying to themselves 😂😂😂😂
No they not
To some people I’m so thankful I don’t have any I’d rather die
Single mother isn't a blessing. A complete 👨👩👧 family is.
That's the problem with society "normalizing" something that it's wrong/bad.
Let's be real: being a single parent will definitely lose anyone points in the dating game. It's not the end of the world though and would not stop someone from finding a decent partner.
Some men actually want children and cannot have them, and are happy to have a built-in family. Hey enjoy being a manly man and a dad. (No, I’m not a mom, but I’ve seen it happen fairly often enough). That’s because not all men are as shallow as our little friend here.
@@misskim2058 Sure that's true, but I think most logical people in that situation would rather just adopt, instead of having to deal with another man in the situation who also has the right to see his kids.
@@misskim2058 exactly. I've met a couple men that can't have kids.
I'm literally young right now, fertile and don't want kids. Men need to stop this spreading this rhetoric. There are a lot of women like me. Half my friends do not want kids at all or want to in their 30s. They better start thinking of single mom's because they won't have any kids at all.
@@misskim2058 You're literally talking about a super minority of men that are infertile. That's not a great basis for an argument.
@NoName
Having no kids is the same as raising someone else's. It's not my blood.
My friend met his wife when she had a five year old and a new baby - he instantly fell in love with the children and saw them as a bonus - they were happy married for over 40 years
Lol when I was growing up men would literally throw themselves at my mom trying to take her out and buy her shit. Men are not in short supply, decent ones are though, which is why they are worth waiting for.
Edit: stop it with the mansplaining comments, I don't need you to rephrase his argument. It's condescending as hell. If you get offended at the thought of women leaving a man who is abusive to her so much that you feel personally attacked and try to tell her that she won't find love, guess what? -you're not one of the good men those women are waiting for. By agreeing with him you're basically putting a big neon sign above your head saying "I'm not a man of quality" . My mom has found happiness, been in a committed relationship for 8 years, and she's been proposed to multiple times along the way but waited for the right person and it paid off. Stop assuming shit. Women are allowed to have standards for how they'd like to be treated in a relationship.
The white Kevin Samuels
Just because they were willing to date your mom or sleep with her doesn’t mean they were willing to marry her and support her kids.
That's because they are simps
but be honest, were the men who were throwing themselves at your mom attractive and worth dating?
Yes we know. There are lot of Neanderthal men that want another man's used up roast beef sandwich. It's gross tbh.
As a 39 year old man, never married, no kids. Most women I have dated have had children. Definitely hard to find a woman close to my age that doesn’t have children already. I have never minded dating women with children. As long as the lady is the kind of mother I would want for my own children, I absolutely don’t mind. And if there a shit mom, it makes it pretty easy to see them for what they are, and keeps me from wasting her, or my time. I can see what this guy is “trying” to say, I think, but it comes off harsh. Things that are negatives for some, are positives for others. It’s hard to generalize all the context and content that makes ppl attractive to some and unattractive to others.
Find one with no kids and go younger.
What is causing you to date single mothers? Are you not wanting your own children?
I hope you'd find the one, kids or no kids.
Keep on trying for younger and no kids, buddy. Hopefully you got the muscles, money and masculinity to see it through. Its much better than 'settling' as it shows a lack of respect on both sides. Also, consider getting some bloodwork done, I had this "wishy washy" attitude for a long time til it got fixed.
@tulpe A lot of what Rational talks about is biological. Men and women don't look for the same things in each other for evolutionary reasons that are ingrained in us and gives us the pulse of attraction in the first place. Men are usually attracted to far younger and youthful women solely for the fact that men, for millennia, know instinctively that the older a women is, the less likely she is a virgin and or/able to have kids. By age 30, women have a hard time having healthy children, so imagine how it was like before technological advancements to keep unhealthy children alive. And sure, not every women wants an older guy, but the overwhelmingly vast majority want a specific kind of man to bear her children, and usually the traits she's looking for in a man are conducive to an older man. Things like how tall he is, how strong, confident he is. His status in the social marketplace - is he respected by peers, does he respects his peers. His wealth and his stability. All of these traits are likely to be found in men aged 30 and up, and most women don't need to know this, they are instinctively driven to find men like that. It is why the biggest demographic of virgins are males aged 20-27. And it is also why most relationships with children you will find the man of a household to be at least 5+ years older than the mother.
Actually as a single man I am looking primarily for a woman who is LTR monogamous material and not out playing the field every day. After watching this video I think I should look into a single mother, she may be level headed.
Sure yea,
join the same unclaimed naive blunts who married such women with 2-4 children, and then found out that while they were sitting at home with her children, she was going out to clubs and lined up queues of men.
TH-cam is full of this. You never learn, huh?
A single mother can find a relationship but her options are limited. That's reality.
Nah not really. Most people always end up with somebody
It's not limited we have to be cautious because we can't be in relationships with just anyone or with bird brain dumb men! We have to have strong men with a back bone that treat us with respect.
@princesskf5157 of course you have to be cautious especially with under age children in the mix, goes without saying. But never the less the options are limited especially when it comes to men with plenty of them or men of a certain caliber.
@@princesskf5157 what I find funny is you didn’t care about any of the STRONG MAN talk when you gave your womb to another man. Men are not stupid. If it was that easy then you would see more and more single mothers getting married but they aren’t. Why would a man with option settle for taking care of another man’s child. Yes SOME will do it just like SOME WIN THE lottery but I’m
Not going to bank on it.
Yes, they are limited.... that's a fact. But she is pretty and smart. So she does have that going for her. So it doesn't mean Mikhaila can't find someone....but it is limited.
What he’s really saying is “I don’t value single mothers as much as I value women who don’t have kids. I prefer younger women who don’t have kids regardless of whether I have kids or not”.
There’s nothing wrong with not wanting to date a woman (or man) who has children. You can say you don’t want to date a woman with children WITH OUT needing to degrade and devalue women who are single mothers in the process.
Unless they're widows, single mothers are automatically degraded. Same for single dads, but not as severe.
What's wrong with preferring women without children? If you ask men 99% would prefer the woman that doesn't already have all the baggage. Nothing wrong with preferences
He simply explaining why a large majority of men DONT want women with kids and wild expectations on top of that and if they aren't meant the woman is happy to die alone lol
You're taking on kids that arent yours for her to leave you in a few years
@@user-nj1zu2nf1x did you read the comment? They quite literally explained preference and said it was okay.
He seems to be thinking every guy is looking for a woman they can have their own children with as well. Me as a recently single man who can't have children, would much perfer a woman with children that's stable and forward thinking. Guys like me exist... not every man just sees a potential for child bearing.
Thank God for simps like this. There's no man sitting around thinking can't wait to meet a woman who has kids already. None
@Pekom L no it's very simple Missed the point. A man who wants to start his own family and not take on yours is looking for a younger woman without kids. Not a woman whose older with kids. Simple simple. It's a general point and simple to get
@@manniefresh3425 the only time you would do that is if your desperate, OR if the single mom is rich and famous and attractive like Mikaela
@Pekom L sure it's easy to date fake people on apps that are looming to hook up. But general connection is impossible after 35 I feel
@@manniefresh3425 as I said. As someone who can't have kids. Being with a childless woman only gives 1 option, adopting
"im special, im the exception, im JPs daughter, im empowered, im dying alone" bout sums it up.
No financial issues for sure.
When she goes on about her positivities “I don’t have an IQ of 100, I’m not a moron, I’m fairly attractive so I don’t think I’m gonna have an issue .”…I heard her dad’s voice all day!
But u can hear bigger ego than her dads
@@madzerincognito9732 no, I disagree. she was just stating facts.
An it kinda sounds like dr evil
Although the irony is her dad would probably agree this other guy isn't completely wrong.
@@richardpatterson4312 Not at all. She says she’s not a moron implying people with around 100 IQ or less (the overwhelming majority of the world) are morons compared to her.
She then says she’s fairly attractive even though everything about her that is attractive (physically) seems fake (make up, died hair, lip fillers, eyelashes, fake tan, fake boobs ect ect).
Would you still say that’s just a statement of fact with no ego involved?
My dad was stoked to find a mom to marry, he wanted more kids but my mom was sick and died when we were young. He got to raise more kids, be a dad to littles again, and changed their lives for the better. Now he's got my son's, his grandkids, to deal with which he loves.
Not all men hate kids.
Beta men will raise other woman’s children. Lol
It's not that men hate kids, it's that most men would prefer to raise their own children instead of someone elses
He got to play make believe. If he didn’t father those children he’s not their “dad”.
You said all that and then ended it with such a narrow take.
@cookncrook6902 so adoption doesn't make you a parent?
Didn’t she just get married. Her father and mother are amazing people and a great example.
Yeah, that was what confused me as well... This clip feels kinda out of place if that were true.
Guys that is an interview from before she married. It is an example for Single moms to let them know they shouldnt be looking for anything but instead value themselves and be hapoy by themselves and the eventually the man who will value both her and her child will cross your path. Just live your life and do your thing and the right person will appear
Did you see the husband. Looked like her younger brother.
@@LanaK7777 what, already 😳, so was the kid from a previous relationship
@@cristybello that’s my life right now as a single father with full custody
Jack Sparrow voice"Yeah,,keep telling yourself that,darling!"😂😂😂
When I met my husband I had a one year old daughter and one in the oven. We spoke over the phone he asked me out. I told him the truth.. “I’m a pregnant single mom with a baby walking.” He took a long pause on the phone then he said, “that’s okay. Your daughter can come too.”
Years after we married I asked him why he paused so long. He said in that moment he made a decision. He asked himself 1. Do I want to take on this responsibility? 2. Do I want kids because I have none. 3. Do I want to deal with any drama she might incur with her babies dads 4. Do I like this girl that much?
He said he answered yes to all those questions so therefore he proceeded.
Been married 6 years.
@T800 explain why are you asking that question?
Then your man is an exception to the rule. Sure there are men out there that would take in a single mother however is it probable? No it's is not. Most men would prefer to raise there own kin.
Low value men clean up another man's messes. This story is not a flex.
Realistically, a man with options would never do this. But there’s plethora of men with no other options that would. So single mothers can definitely find men to date with no problem. It’s just the likely hood of the men being their “dream man” is very slim
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Men and women "of value" don't have these conversations- they're busy doing their thing and living life.
There are social problems, some of us aren’t bothered with, but western society as a whole is going down the drain.
Bingo
This trend of “high value” status will fade away along with other trends. But sure I get it.
Thank you!
Abso bloody lutey - finally - Thank you
I'm married to a single Mother met her 10 years ago with a 5 year old girl at the time, she's the most determined strong caring woman i've ever met. Brought her child up on her own while having a full time job no help from the girls father although they were once married, he basically doesnt exist. She got her through school with good grades and now onto college. Literally leagues above any girl ive had relationships with in the past so due to some idiotic statements going around she has no value. No man wants a single mother... what a load of shit
You didn't listen! No one is saying , no man wants a single mother! What there saying is that men prefer a woman without children . Women who have children USUALLY have to settle for simps. Simps cant get tens , so they take what they can get! I figure you and your misses are on the scale from 1 to ten,,,,, a 4. But as long as your happy , that's all that matters!
You haven't met many women then.
@@Billy-bc8pk thank you hope you put your super powers of knowing fuck all to good use
It's an automatic no if the girls been married before and has kids by that said marriage iam happy this dude found someone but some guys are not willing to accept just anything
@@bateseanderson2667 thanks for holding my wife with such distain but totally agree guys are not willing to except just anything thats why I married this women thought that was obvious
You let him hit it raw.
You didn't have 2nd thoughts.
Now you a single mom
As a PERSON you are valuable no matter what.
He's not talking about intrinsic value, He's talking about value as a potential mate. From a man's point of view, considering long term involvement with a woman and pouring all your future resources into raising another man's child is not to be taken lightly.
Value needs to be proven, respect needs to be earned, and no one really cares about your feelings, that's life
That wreaks of feminine energy. Fact is, men have preferences, just like you do, when looking for a partner. And single mommies are not high on their preference list. They're telling you this and then you "womansplain" their preferences away by using emotional non sequiturs. No one is saying you can't value yourself. Men are saying single mommies are not high on their preference scale.
No, a PERSON really is not. Deluded Western people operate under the fantasy that all life is valuable simply for existing but this is only a perspective cultivated through a dissociation from nature which is brutal and amoral. Everything our culture cultivates is sweet little lies from santa to every woman believing she's a princess. You think you're intrinsically special and have to bring nothing to the table until any and all biological worth is used up and you're faced with the brick wall of reality that you're not special at all.
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I just can’t with social media. As a nurse I see SO many women dealing with depression and suicidal ideation because this world is a MESS. No kindness. No sympathy. Just a bunch of people sitting behind phone screens with nothing better to do than project their insecurities onto others. There is someone for EVERYONE! Your value as a human being is never LESSENED ladies!
Problem is all the women want the SAME GUY.
We all face consequences for our actions. That’s just life. Women need to smarten up and stop making unforced errors. FYI the world is a lot less kind to men. Take a quick look at the suicide rates.
@@johannesswillery7855 Im not gonna lie. Some girls out there do, but some don't. Some really don't give a fuck how u look. Or if u act more masculine or feminine. Some girls out there are open to anything. U will find someone who accepts u for who u are. (Im sorry if this doesn't make sense or comes off rude. English is my second language and I really don't mean it in a rude way. I just want to say that not all women want the same guy)
@@wiktoriaw321 I fully comprehend your message, and no you aren't rude. I suppose I am rude but I am disgusted by what is happening in this dating culture. I am quite fortunate that girls like me but I am blown away by how many married or otherwise attached women will try to hook up with me. No doubt there are women who are loyal, kind and passionate and well worth investing time in. But in this world they are exceedingly rare.
well ik that you find your little fairytale that you made in your head very ideal but there isnt someone for everyone in real life and your value as a woman is lessened when you are a single mom and thats a fact like it or not. and btw most suicides are committed by men just to let you know and there are more men with mental issues itw than women difference is that we get on with it and dont sit down and just cry and complain like most women do or if men cant handle it they just, off. amd we do have sympathy, just not so much that we raise someone elses kids at our own expense cause thats just dumb
He’s 100% correct. A man’s first preference is not to look after another man’s kids.
Yes, some barely want to look after their own!
People are in love with the notion of a perfect family but in reality unless you’re mature enough and financially stable a child often breaks couples up.
I have previously been pursued by a single mum but I’ll be honest I didn’t really want to be anyone’s stepdad when I didn’t have kids myself and you go straight into the relationship having to be a father as the kids biological dad did the bare minimum and was always with its mother.
But I did the right thing and didn’t mess with her knowing I had no intention of taking it further than fun. There’s loads of guys that do take advantage by dangling the relationship carrot.
Fact.
It's like cleaning fluids after a party you weren't invited to and being expected to pay anyway..
Gross.
And your choice for not wanting a woman with a child is valid. That doesn’t mean another man even without children thinks the same. Ive known various women with multiple children marry men without children and they even take care of them like their own and are very happy. Life is full of surprises and you can’t box anyone in.
@@delcarmen1377 You re confusing possibility and probability.
It's possible to win the lottery twice... The probability is too low to stop working because it "can happen".
Just like dating sm... It ends up in disaster way too often to consider it as a viable option.
REMEMBER, WHEN IN A DISPUTE.. EVERY WOMAN WILL JUST TAKE WHAT YOU SAY AND TURN IT AROUND ON YOU .
😂 wtf?
Based bro
He’s right. As a single male with no kids, I will not even consider getting into a relationship with a single mother no matter how intelligent she is. Not saying it couldn’t work, there just are more disadvantages and baggage that come with the whole situation as opposed to starting with someone fresh.
It’s okay, we feel the same about single fathers.
@greene362 As a man with no kids, having experienced relationships with few single mothers with an open mind, I can honestly say I've seen more disadvantages than advantages and baggage as little as they may be and they are always come into play. Starting fresh is always better
In the end, it's really simple: Nobody's putting a gun to anyone's head to make them go out with them. And I have no issue with a guy not wanting to date a woman with a kid, nor a woman not wanting to date a guy with a kid. It's a preference. Like some people aren't attracted to people who are too heavy, too thin, too short, too tall. It's just preferences. It doesn't mean that person you don't wish to be with is necessarily a terrible person or "not worthy". Just "isn't for me".
@@NeverYours-c5g😆
Yeah then you have to see the kids father all the time too and the potential drama lol
There’s a difference between being a single mom with 3 different baby daddies vs being a single mom bc your ex cheated, was abusive, you’re widowed, etc
Very true
So what. There is no way you believe every man instantly knows what your problems are. So therefore, all things EQUAL childless women are more valuable than single moms.
@@morpheus2072Indeed, but thats kinda the point: unless you're widowed or something like that, you're not really a "single mom."
It USED to be that the phrase "single mom" DID mean something bad happened to the mother: husband died or left/abused her. Now we know that's not the case, and there really should be a distinction between a 304 and a woman who was dealt a bad hand
If course, you'd be a fool to take her word on that " abusive, cheating" thing. Always find out the whole story. Remember, to her the man is always in the wrong.
No
As a former single mother (divorced) if I had it to do over I would have remained single/divorced until my kids grew up. The stepdad thing was horrible. Be very careful who you choose to reparent your children. It's MUCH better to be alone than with the wrong person.
I COMPLETELY AGREE.
Thanks for the heads up I will stay single 😊
A lot of male pedophiles will marry single moms just to get closer to the kids too.
As someone who as a child was in a parent/step-parent situation….why not allow the child’s parent to actually parent?? I get it, anger and hatred are strong emotions, but the child shouldn’t have to pay the price of two parents that can’t set their personal feelings aside for the benefit of the children they created together.
I did that, when I became a single mom, I had to quite the army because I couldn’t do shifts/travels anymore. After so many people around me said that it would be difficult to have a new men in my live because I had a son, I decided that I was better off alone. I change my job, finished my degree, bought my house and manage to put my son into a private school. Now I’m 40 ( my son 13) and I could basically focused on us both all this time. BEST decision ever!! Now everyone is like: you are only missing a men in you live! 😂😂😂 I always reply: No thank you!
She TOTALLY ABSOLUTELY missed it.
I think we need to start saying "dating value" instead of "value", I see a lot of comments on this topic where people are getting confused.
that is kind of implied in the context of the conversation. Women have an issue with men having standards or value markers.
That is what he is talking about but she is using clips to pander to her audience rather than get at the deeper meaning behind what he is saying.
smv is not the same as “human” value.
Usually when I see people say "value" in this context, they also use the words "sexual marketplace" in the same thought or sentence, so that it's obvious what they are referring to.
Not your value as a human, or a person, or as a member of society or whatever, but your reproductive value to the opposite sex.
@@Slohrable Yeah, it's a little irritating what she is doing in this video clip. I mean, haven't we seen the same thing done to her father more than enough times by journalists and TV stations?
I love how much she talks just like her dad, it's pretty cool to hear!
She sounds just like Jordan. Mannerisms and all.
Shell NEVER be Jordan
@@Brian-isatree4yhvh nobody said she was trying to be??
@@vkkoyna7776 a lot of people think this average chick sounds like the great Jordan Peterson
@@Brian-isatree4yhvh 💯
*Laughs in engaged* being a single mom didn't stop me from extra happiness. This male speaking is not high value like my fiancé. My fiancé is high value he doesn't mention that he is. He is a caring man provides and protects. This dude here is a dust muppet.
Rollo is correct, she is experiencing an episode of cognitive dissonance. He wasn't comparing her to other women. He was talking in the sense of psycho-social dynamics
I love your name! Means African Queen right?
@QUAN TRAN and if she's was ugly or obese he'd wouldn't be with/ leave her too. What's your point?
@QUAN TRAN you spitting facts
Once he loses money you’ll leave him so damn fast your head will spin
Attraction doesn't equate to being able to attract a good man. Especially with young kids in tow. That's a huge turn off to a lot of guys because it's baggage when they can go get a girl that is just as attractive or more attractive with no children
Dude forgot he was talking to mini Peterson for a second 😭 she knows her worth and aint gonna let some middle aged commentator convince her otherwise 🙏🏿 more power to her
Sorry, He is right. Why would any man want to raise someone elses kids? MOST men want to raise their own kids.
@@johncrow5552 I mean pretty privilege is a whole other can of worms
But she definitely has it
@@johncrow5552 men have absolutely no problem raising other men's kids if the mom is a baddie. Your feelings does not equate to reality. Good try tho lol and this is coming from someone who doesn't have kids. Single moms don't have a problem getting men. Lol 🌈💃✨
@@johncrow5552 because men are still simps after all and a sucker for good looks or good sex. you say that like no single mother has ever gotten remarried. it happens everyday.
🙌👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
‘Your value is less’
*She promptly marries an handsome, intelligent, successful man
Every rule has an exception 😢
Imagine the guy she would haven gotten if she was t a single mother divorced
cos noone in real life cares about this stuff, people don't go around with their calculators adding up points
No, this is after she married a handsome, intelligent successful man, had a kid (kids?) with him ... and then divorced him and went and hung out with a bunch of balloon-animal guys from the gym. (Apologies if I got that wrong - google says she had a kid with her (now) ex-husband in 2017)
Sources: just google "Mikhaila Peterson gym" and "Mikhaila Peterson children" and you'll see.
That's not to say she's wrong and the guy in the video is right, just that this isn't a hypothetical discussion - at least not for her.
The guy in the video is making an 'all else being equal' comparison between two theoretical women in the dating pool, who are both valuable human beings - but one has kids and the other doesn't. And the guy is saying that the one without kids is going to have an easier time of it finding a high value guy (whatever TF that might mean) because those kind of guys will prefer the woman without kids.
I think the argument can be made without reference to 'value' - simply by saying that (again - all else being equal) dating a woman without kids is fundamentally less complicated than dating a woman with kids. It's not that the woman or the kids are bad, it just (self-evidently) makes the scenario a lot more complicated.
The problem is that in these discussions a lot of these internet pundits talk at cross purposes. The guys talk about women's 'dating-value', and the women they're talking to don't hear that, they hear 'value-as-a-person'. And _of course_ everyone has equal value as a person, so to them the stuff the guys is saying is clearly non-sensical.
Here Mikhaila is taking that typical confusion and compounding it by being unable to understand the form of an 'all else being equal' argument -> which given who her father is is an astonishing comprehension failure on her part.
I think though if you understand that the topic is a lot more personal for her than for the guy she's talking to, then it makes sense that she would indeed filter the message through a morass of emotional stuff and it gets twisted like that.
As for her split with ex-hubby, as far as I'm aware she hasn't really talked about it (except in this clip), and that (AFAICT) the ex didn't want to divorce, she was the one that was driving it.
The problem is when she says she was unhappy and decided to end it ... that could cover everything from she was subject to horrific abuse to she was bored and/or thought she could do better.
So she could be upset because she (as the vulgar saying goes) 'fucked around and found out' (perhaps even literally), and thus she's upset that her decision has consequences. Or at the other extreme she could be upset that something horrible happened to her, she got out of it, and now that she's out she doesn't like that (through no fault of her own) she's now locked out of a certain portion of the dating spectrum and thus unfairly denied.
She got banged out by Andrew Tate.
Dating a single mom is not just the looks or how young she is. As a man, you must be aware that the time she can dedicate is much less than a girl without kids. The single mom is always going to put her children first and technically it should be that way. Some aspects of the relationship may complicate, like traveling, or you may have to deal with the father of her children. In the end, it's up to you whether you want to deal with all these aspects or not.
Forget about the prioritization, about which you're correct- a dude in yhag situation will be bottom of the barrel
The bigger issue is that you're going to be taking care of a creature that's a result of some other man busting a fat nut inside your girlfriend /wife
That's disgusting and pathetic
Same as a divorced father. If you are threatened by children taking away time from YOU. You are a selfish arsehole 😂
Exactly
Well said
It’s not always strictly a negative thing tho, it just depends on what you’re looking for. If you’re very busy with your career and can’t see her much it’s actually better she has a kid or kids to keep her occupied. If she was single in that situation she’d be going out all the time.
I also think single mothers tend to be WAYYY more mature and realistic about things because they’ve been forced to confront the realities of life instead of young single women that still believe in Disney fairytales and the world bending to their whims.
Lastly her having kids gives a glimpse of what kind of mother and wife she’d be to you and your children. Like does she still find time for you even while tried after dealing with the kids all day or is she short and snappy? Does she always get up and help the kids when she’s needed or does she ignore them to browse IG? Those are things you can’t ever know about a woman until she actually has kids and if they’re yours it’s too late.
My mum was married at 17 and had two children with him. He turned out to be useless as a father and husband so they eventually divorced. She later met my dad who really loved her and took on her two kids too. Together they had myself and my younger sister. They've been together for 36 years and he worships her. She has plenty of value to him. Also, her ex husband's phone background is of her and he keeps a picture of her on his night stand. He will die a lonely alcoholic wishing he'd been better to her. Please tell me how that man leaving her as single mum took away her value? She actually gained value in becoming even more independent, strong, intelligent, confident and beautiful.
Glad I found a man who saw my value and we married had four more kids and spent 20 years making a happy life before he passed away.
Lol
My most sincerest condolences for your loss and may God bless you another best friend🙂❤️❤️❤️🙂
Women are far worse nowadays, marriage is a bad deal for men
@@jamespratt7627 wtf bro 😂😂😂😂
I am So sorry Jill.
My fiancé just passed away on Valentines Day too. And my daughters and I are devastated. He was/is our Rock.
I’m crying for You. 💔💜💜💜
My dad married my mom even though she was divorced and had a child from that marriage. He even adopted my brother when they got married :) been together for 26 years ❤️.
Your dad's a bitch
Oh god that must’ve been hell on your father I pray he grows up and realizes his wife isn’t the one if she got divorced she’ll get divorced again well thank god I don’t got a kid like you I would’ve blown my brains out if I got married to a woman with no value
She was very lucky. Specially this day and age. Where life is just so expensive. Its hard for you to marry someone who already has a child and you will have to support. Even in the animal kingdom they kill of the offsprings when a new alpha is in charge.
@@hmmmjamz9348 incel
@@hmmmjamz9348 thank God we ain't animals. Phew.
Her dad is Jordan Peterson..she will have men lining up for her 😂
She's the biggest reason to question everything he says.
@CARTER X It’s because a lot of men want women with more traditional values
@@jc4388 Cain and Abel have the same parents.... I have three children they've all turned out differently. What exactly is your point?
@@denisedecker7330 You understand that Cain and Abel is just a story/myth, right? 🤣
@@WaCzup Well I studied 5 years worth of archaeological evidence that says the Bible is actually historically accurate... But why are you telling me that? Do you think you're going to change the way I believe because you have a laughing emoji. My belief is not based on emotionalism. It's based on logic.
And she literally just proved his point...
She ignored it.
no, not everything’s male dominated he asked a question in a condescending way implying all women act the same when they don’t and she answered the right way by remaining true to her integrity
Her attitude is great. "I'm going to do my thing and be happy and if a guy finds that attractive then great" if not I'm better off alone.
Edit: the guy interviewing her is a condescending tool and is "in way over his head". She clearly does not have "daddy issues" she has a great dad and mom
Most females with normal dads and moms have daddy issues in america/Canada.
💯 Agreed
I thought he was just asking for the perspective, wish I could watch the whole piece. Like not her specifically,but "what's a girl who is in your position to do" and her message being "don't settle for less, ladies, but BE PREPARED TO WORK HARD AND BE HAPPY ABOUT IT". There are plenty of (at least at my part of the world) divorced single mothers, who are highly attractive and smart, two thirds of which are looking for a chance to get remarried(= actively participating in the market), but it's them who are condescending towards men, married women and the society in general - like "I'm carrying the heavy cross here, bow down everyone"))) wonder what their answer to that guy will be)))
And to hell with what's best for the kid. As long as she didn't have to compromise with a man she thought was good enough to sleep with at the time, that's the only thing that truly matters. It's not virtuous, is shameful. You made your bed and got pregnant - lay in it. And maybe give a damn about your child's well-being over your selfish self-fulfillment.
You missed his point, just like most single moms. His point is if a man has a choice between a single mom with kids and just a single woman guess what the average man’s gonna pick the single woman without kids.
What might not be “valuable” to one person might be more “valuable” to another. The same thing goes for men.
His argument was that more man want women that have no kids. Ask people around you what they prefer. What is the answer? Do you think 50% or more prefer an older women with kids? Why are you so emotional. It’s just logic and reality
@@yilmazsertbolat4324 yes… and this person said that that will change from person to person. You know just repeating something doesn’t make it a valid point lol
@@yilmazsertbolat4324 okay well what the fuck is up with how he worded it, "your value is less because you're a single mother" no the fuck it's not.
ah yes, the famous "let's relativise everything so that no internet weirdos get offended" argument
At one point, salt was traded for gold. Value is relative.
Maybe no one is gonna go out of there way looking for a single mother but if he runs along and finds HER as the single mother the man might make some exceptions lmfao. Some people it’s a deal breaker, but then those people aren’t meant for you. Like she said, better to be alone when you know you’ll be happy.
True everyone’s opinions are different so anyone who says that you can’t find love as a single mom needs to only speak for themselves because they’re some single moms who are happily married now.
E x a c t l y. I don't know why this flies over people's head. Plus, you don't need to be special for a billion people in order to be attractive. You just need to be special enough for that ONE person you want to marry. I don't care if a billion men think I'm lame. As long as my man sees me as the one and only, that's ENOUGH for me.
Notice that she did not think of what was best for her child or her ex-husband. She solely thought about her own happiness. Now, her daughter does not get to hold her parents in her arms and feels that security and love. Now, her daughter lives in a broken home with all the chances of a destroyed life increased. Look up the percentage rate for step dads that abuse their step daughters. I guess Mikhailas feelings are more important than everybody else.
@@bmanrrrrr stop projecting
Came to type this but you said it so Ill just co-sign lol. My fiancé never saw himself dating someone with kids. I got divorced at 23 and had my son shortly after at 24. I just turned 28 and have been engage for just over a year 🙂. My fiancé slowly went from bachelor lifestyle to telling ME that HE was ready to meet my son and watching my dog while I went out of town and realizing he is ready to adopt a dog and get some responsibility 🤣. One thing lead to another and now we have two dogs, live together, and my son calls him dad. Plan to move across the country so I can go to medical school in 2024- a year from now! He is the man of my dreams and it's amazing to see what the right person can become when they want to! Wish I could attach a screenshot of our text thread lol- this man is on amazon looking for birthday presents for my son (his bday is next month) and we are deciding what couch we should get that can endure us, the dogs, and our child/our future children. 🤣 The right one always picks you.... The rest don't need to because they're not your match!
“I’m not like other single moms”…proceeds to say the same shit every single mom says
In general a single mom will have it harder to get into a relationship than a woman with no kids.
Its amazing that this statement is so hard for women to accept.
Regardless of attractiveness too. Lol this isn’t rocket science
Same goes for guys with kids from a previous relationship. Good thing society is set up that we all don’t need to settle and can choose to either be single or choose someone’s whose unique qualities make us want to be with them whatever the package. Yay for autonomy and society where women can be independent, earn what they need for their families and not have to choose men who think like it’s a meat market.
That’s true, but it is always used as a means of talking down on women. That’s the issue.
Harder not impossible. And it all depends. I’m an average looking woman in her mid-40’s. Single Mom. Financially stable. I have oodles of men, mostly single Dads, pursuing me. It’s all about phases of life. A 50 year old single Dad isn’t chasing 25 year old woman who wants kids some day. He’s built his family. He wants sex and companionship.
And like Mikhaila, I’m comfortable alone in the event I don’t find the right person.
@@kaylee7518cap af 🧢
No one has any place talking about anyone’s value. Except God only he decides your worth.
No your worth is is decided by the marketplace you are trying to operate in.
Please understand the argument being made
@@Gumpmachine1 No it's not. Women will always have more options than men when it comes to finding a mate. The men are just bitter.
@@saltycat662 that in no way addresses the argument. Flexing how many options a woman has is like a gazelle bragging how many lions tried to eat it.
Men dictate a woman’s value because they’re the ones who will date them. It’s the calibre of man a woman can attract and keep that determines her value, not the number men hitting on her.
I’d actually argue it’s a top small percentage of men that have all the options
Actually, YOU'RE the one that gives YOURSELF your own worth.
@@nancypalagonia1591 no the market dictates your value. If you sell a car you can’t just charge what you like
Women tell themselves the dumbest stuff- I deserve super model because I’m that valuable
It helps when your father is a multi-millionaire and has given you an established platform from which to operate your business. So yes, you are correct in that you're not like 99.8% of single mothers out there.
dont be a hater
@@LjubavLove3Telling a truth is being a hater? Let's be real
Most single mom's have an average income. They are way less reachable than a single mom with a deep bag.
Often times, people confuse the truth that hits home with hatred.
@@LjubavLove3
She wouldn’t even be successful if not for piggybacking off her father’s back.
Oh so that's what it was. She has or makes more money than he does, so she left him. Heard that story plenty of times, haven't we? She definitely left because she thought she could do better. Women don't divorce their husbands and ruin their children's lives because they want to be alone
single mother’s are some of the most hardworking people on their planet and you’re trying to tell me their value is less…
Yes.
@@imperialdebauchery5988 welp same goes for single fathers then
Exactly!!! 👏👏👏
Doesn't matters. You'll still have to deal with a kid that is not YOURS, both biogically and legally.
You'll pay for him, you'll give your time for him, your wife will giver her time to him but it still won't be your place to discipline him or to tell him what to do or not do.
And if you end up having a good relationship with kid, bonding with him, and then the relationship with the mom isn't working out anymore, well say good bye to the kid cause you ain't his dad and you'll never get the rights to see him.
It's beyond me why you would take that much risk, i'd rather be alone than to deal with this BS.
@@trunky37 I agree with you, there is a lot of risk and I would be extremely hesitant to take on that responsibility for a single father as well. I just think it’s unfair to categorize someone as “low value” because of their situation.
He insulted her for no reason, but she is still calm and explains her feelings and her reasoning. She is smart.
Giving facts is not insulting someone
It wasn’t for no reason, she was conducting a interview and asked for his input on this subject because he’s well known for talking about this stuff
She had to insult (childless) normal women with an average iq's. The aggression had to go somewhere and she knew directing it towards Rollo would have made her look weak.
Well he was telling her the truth
@@ИльяКонстантаit is an opinion. Not a fact 😂
I can’t count how many single mothers I know that have had more than one child and married good men who have never been married or had children and who not only love and value their wives, but also love their children and take care of them as their own. And these women are loved, respected, and valued and are all good women.
I dont have any of those in my friend group. Theres a bunch of women with baby daddys that i knew from high school who are still single at 30.
Guys like this old, boring, unattractive man in the video act like this cant possibly happen
Those men are called fools
I'm one of them. I was divorced with 4 kids. My husband now was divorced, no kids, my age. He married us. Like all humans, we all have had things to learn about getting along with each other, which takes time and patience, but he loves us and we love him, and we have a child together whom the older ones adore. It's true, even if it took work. Look for people with quality regardless of their situation. Then work together.
Imagine raising another man’s kids… Biggest cuck move possible
Morally we all have equal value, no question.
On attractivness, as a man standing at 5'7" I can honestly say that I have less attractive "value" than a man at 6'.
I think the single mother is to a man what a short man is to a woman.
Life isn't fair, loads of people have physical and mental problems yet we all got to keep moving forward.
Remember life is a gift from God and no matter your struggles, his love is greatest and most honest of all
She’s Smart Confident and Beautiful. As well as experienced in serious pain. So she is actually very desirable
No. Thoes that have experienced serious emotional pain are scarred (coming from experience) which only worsens relationships
Also his generalisation is correct. All other variables (such as iq, attractiveness ect) staying the same, a woman with kids by most men will be seen as less valuable than thoes without kids. In her case it’s different as in my male opinion from what I know about her, I’d rank her (both personality looks and intelegence aswell as kids taken into consideration) as a 8.5/10. Most women relatively attractive women without kids are on average 7’s so she is indeed more desirable.
@@Theoreticallyyou1234 I think he was talking about her immense physical pain. She's had something like two joints replaced already, and more deterioration in others. That shit hurts, yet she composes herself very well.
Actually not ! Her attitude is a turnoff !
@@Theoreticallyyou1234 you can always heal, but of course if you won’t try it won’t happen.
the way he asked “do you understand that?” 💀💀💀💀💀 and congrats on getting married girl 😜
@Joe Sar PATHETIC
@Joe Sar LOL he's a younger simp, probably had little no experience before wifing her up. I give it 5 years tops.
@Joe Sar I feel sorry for the man who married ur mom. She's gotta deal with two idiots 😂
Married for the second time 🤟 yep congrats
@@jambonjawrattle6126 a lot of people can be in really bad situations, divorce and get married a second time to a different person with a much healthier atmosphere, that’s not uncommon at all.
To tell someone that their value is less than someone else is disgusting. I’m just glad that men love to spout this off when they feel like this so we can avoid them bc most the time they say things like this YET will still get with a single mom.
@nappyfries - Just because we will fuck a single mom doesn't mean we want to date one.
This dude is hardly an example of an adult man. He's a wannabee something he isn't.
You are missing the point. It's not that you can't find a relationship. Rather, you will have a harder time finding a partner that fits your criteria. Same with men. No one is saying that you are value-less, but your value may not meet the standards of other people. It's like me being physically attractive, but broke all the time. What's my value to the greater society, as far as dating prospects? Not very high, i suspect, and certainly not very higH BASED on what you would want in a potential partner.
Well loads of women do it to men doll so dont start those double standards.
@@entdv lol where? You don’t see that with single fathers like you do with moms. But either way, that mindset is pretty childish. I never said it was acceptable for either gender. Don’t make excuses why it’s ok.
She definitely told him!! She’s obviously more intelligent than him!! Kudos to her!!
Even though she comes from a wealthy family and has a husband that's got money and looks like a Ken doll. Obviously she isn't like some of these other single moms that are out here dating who ever because their lonely.😅
She knows her value
Her value as soon as she has a kid 📉📉📉
No she assumes it
wtf@@majorastorm
With age and baggage the depreciation stacks up fast.
@@brianjohnson6053I still think she has more value than other single moms her age.
He’s speaking truth, as a single father I’ve lost dating value. My daughter will take 1/2 my attention, I simply cannot give 100% in a relationship.
Listen to me. This is not the same as a female having a child. Women will naturally want to take care of your daughters. Don't put yourself down.
With your dating track record, wld you want to give someone 100 percent anyway? So you're wise enough for that gamble even if childless?😅Your child is a blessing, and in more ways than you're able to see right now.
Be thankful that the wrong ones are weeding themselves out for you. 😊 Saving you time that’s invested in raising your kid(s).
Nothing is manlier than being able to provide and focus on raising good kids alone. When the system isn’t made with single fathers in mind, you’re constantly swimming upstream. That’s strength, so hunker down and try a different perspective?
@thelightinallofus4649 He's not putting himself down, he's being realistic. I'm a dad who is single and I've been dating for a while. The childless women walk away because I don't give e them as much attention as if I were childless. The women that are mothers and single moms I have dated have, so far, wanted me to help raise their kids, which I'm not willing to do 3 or 4 months into a relationship.
For a man, it makes you more attractive to most women.
She's famous, so she doesn't play by the same rules as the rest of us.
But she's not famous. She's riding on her father's coat tails.
Men don’t care about famous
Woman care about famous
Who is she?🤣🤣🤣🤣
What? are you even female? speak for yourself.
@@christopheredwards452 who said she has a father?
Has NOTHING to do with being smart or attractive. Why would someone (high value man) with options choose a 38 yr old and choose to play stepdad to her kids that he has no connection to, if he could get a 27yr old with no kids, HAVE THEIR OWN KIDS together..and the younger girl USUALLY has HALF THE MILEAGE! Every woman, in this case, is exactly the same. Qualities and achievements mean absolutely nothing.
I remember this interview and "..do you understand that?" condescendant af.
Very condescending indeed. Seems like he may not know who she is and who her father is and how grounded this young lady is.
That guy sounds like such a POS - poor woman whoever dated or married him
@@MsAponte69 So her father adds a bigger value. Problem she is not like most women who are watching her and perhaps listening to her advice. Most normal women who are single moms are not rich, good looking and do not have a famous father. She is exception not a rule.
Missed the point. A man who wants to start his own family and not take on yours is looking for a younger woman without kids. Not a woman whose older with kids. Simple simple. It's a general point and simple to get
Rollo is an interesting guy with interesting ideas, but he can be fantastically condescending at times.
And there are single mothers who resist bringing a man into their lives so to minimise risk to their children
Exactly 💯 some men tend to prey on women with children. The creeps are out there and most look like everyone else.
No, I have not met a single mother who didn't put the children at Risk for sex.
@@robertromero8094 Maybe the reason you have never met one is because they are not out there looking for male attention and keeping to themselves? Maybe you need to keep better company?
@@twillightrose13 maybe you should take accountability. Let be real she's down for unprotected sex with some dude who don't want her. But now that she has a kid she changed her ways? I'd have to stop seeing girls all together for better company.
@@robertromero8094 I'm more concerned that you're seeing girls. How old are you? Shouldn't you be seeing women? I'm just going to assume that you're one of the creeps that the good mothers stay away from.
I remember being in the Catholic Church and a woman was completely shunned by everyone because she divorced her abusive husband, took the kids, and had him incarcerated. I couldn’t understand how they could think less of her after going through so much
@@RG-ls2dbexactly! These women can lie and get away with pretty much anything.
Aren't Church goers supposed to be Understanding. Shame on them!!
Even the Bible says its ok to divorce in cases of abuse. The church is wrong for that.
@@daisyadele967 Old Testament, not New Testament.
@Sienkiewicz Monika old testament and new are still apart of the Bible and God's word still stands.
Is crazy how this person certainly is so sure that ‘’ALL MEN’’ think the same .
They actually do in this case. Given the chance, a man would almost always choose a younger women without children vs an older single mom....given that they are both identical in personality etc, a very important factor in this scenario.
Same with women: If given the choice between 2 men (tall vs short), they would almost always pick the taller one if other factors are identical.
Yes there are outliers, hence the word "almost".
Why would a man want to take on another man's kid's?
@@russkate88 I don’t know but some do , you haven’t seen them?
They do
"Do you understand that" looks at her like she's 3.
Edit : one year ago I made a comment about how I observed a gentleman trying to convey his message. It's funny how much I've grown since this. I understand now. Lol thanks for the 1 k and you guys are all wonderful men, and for any man that commented on this thread ; my heart will go on ❤ lol all good things, all good things 🎉😊 basically I don't really care, but nice to meet you.
She is like a 4
@@rickrossi7426 🤣🤣
These things work or not depending on you are a facer of realities or a whiner about it...
Guess which one Mikhaila is .. and which one you are.
@@thesarasohrabi the whiner one?
What's your point?
These men say the same mess over and over. All my friends with kids are in a relationship. This is not true. Love her confidence btw and she should be
I keep saying this repeatedly this is an internet thing in reality I don't see this and I don't hear this. My sister and 2 of her friends are all recently married all of them were single moms.
You can doit, but lowering the standards its necessary for that... do not expect mr Gray as husband if you have Kids of another man
@@werwinn but who cares if it’s lowered. I’m sure they are happier then a lot of single people
the men that dont want to raise the child of another man is the mess but not the single mother?
@@trishasmiley the mommy itself cares... allways she keep having the hope of geting a high hiiiigh status man
What a perfect response. There is no “all women this” or “all men that.” Why? Because none of us are “men” or “women” in the collective sense. We are individuals. Every rule has exceptions. Cuz everyone is different. Even better news-you don’t have to attract a billion people. Find someone with your unique brand of weird.
PS, Mikhaila rocks as a human. Whoever her man is is lucky to have her.
He’s talking in generalities which is how we operate in reality.
In general being a single mother will lower a woman’s ability to attract the best possible man
Exactly, we are all individuals.
@@josiemorgan6567 seriously?
@@Gumpmachine1 you’re speaking my point. We don’t though. We don’t make dating decisions on generalities-we make them on specific people based on what we specifically are into.
@@officialcalvinwayman but those individuals choices express themselves as generalities at the population level.
If I’m going to work to be attractive to women or men then I need to look at probability to maximise my chances.
A in shape man will attract more attention than a fat guy,
A childless woman will attract more quality attention than single mother
Banking on some exception, minority or Hail Mary is poor advice especially for women.
Single moms ought to understand that their children are a part of them and some men are reluctant to date them because of this. Children ARE a complication and many of the men that I know are reluctant to date a woman with children for big reasons.
-single mom expects that he will pay for things like babysitters, trips, meals, etc., as well as helping to take care of the children, but don’t allow their boyfriend/husband to have an actual hand in raising the children
-they are afraid that they’ll get attached to the child and the relationship will end, leaving them with no rights to continue the relationship that they’ve so carefully built. My husband was close to his ex’s son and, after they divorced, she refused to let their relationship continue and he had zero recourse
-afraid the child will be resentful towards them (ex: say things like “you’re not my dad! I don’t have to listen to you!”)
I’m not saying it doesn’t happen because it does, but think very carefully what you’re asking this man to do. He may not get important parts of your children’s lives, like watching their birth, hearing their first words, seeing their first smile, and all of the other things that endear them to their parents. Sometimes, all they get is the hard parts, like tantrums, messes, and having to learn common core math. Children are little savages at a certain age, even really well behaved ones, and you have the advantage of being with them since they were born.
The bottom line is that it does reduce a woman value in the marketplace and reduces the quality of man who will accept her.
Hello ❤
I think even a woman at 35 without kids is better than a woman at 20 with kids.
amen
I would expect a 35 year old to have kids with maybe 2 guys by time they're that age. It looks worse when they're 20 or 21 with kids by 2 or 3 guys already.
As if that is common but at the same time you are also implying the one that has 20 kids is automatically going with a bunch of different guys and couldn’t possibly be with one guy or you just assume she’s that attractive to have that many dudes lining up for her 😆
Ofcourse. Who the hell wants to pay for another man's ejaculate?
@@rafewheadon1963 not simping. It could mean she's a modest woman. You would have to look for other indicators or red flags to make a full assessment. But all I'm saying is that a woman without kids is preferable to one with kids.
I was raised by a single mom and I seen how difficult it was and the times she cried from exhaustion from working 2 jobs and putting herself through school. This mans message is evil. What do you want those women to do unalive themselves because they have no value. Please women look at the source of the message. We all have value and you are raising the next generation so it makes you a badass. He needs to speak to the fathers that left their families behind. And she is married, she isn't a single mom.
100%. My thought is if a man and woman fall in love and have babies and then something happens, like he leaves her or he dies then she now has significantly less value as a woman and human being because she was left or widowed? I mean come the fuck on.
@@sidneybuckalooTo top-tier successful men, yes. I don’t think he’s saying her value is totally shot, just that she will have a harder time than in the past locking down an older alpha male. It doesn’t mean women like this can’t have a happy ending, there is someone for everyone. She actually recently married and turned out pretty good!
@@gabelossus I agree. I just think it’s important to remember that love and happiness is a lot more important than finding someone who make a lot of money or looks perfect or hasn’t had any kids or hasn’t had too much sex.
@@sidneybuckaloo It’s just reality of life we all have to accept, you are ONLY acting like a knight because she is a woman which is very cringe and hypocritical. I mean there are tons of men that are born less intelligent, short or in a very devastating environment, what are they going to do then? They can’t change it, but women clearly see them as less valuable since day one??? Where is your “come the f on” then? Most of our ancestors are females, so just stop with the fake compassion already.
@@potatorekt7046 so you’ve decided I have fake compassion because I disagreed with the fact that a woman who has kids or has been married before is seen as less valuable than a woman who hasn’t? If that’s your opinion then that’s cool but you can’t tell me what I mean by what I say. I can attest to the fact that most women don’t like shorter men but I can’t say whether they see them as less valuable than a taller man. The simple reason I like taller men (my own personal opinion) is because I want tall and strong children. It’s just something I personally like for myself. There truly are some women out there that don’t care about height. I’d say the biggest difference between not appreciating short men, and women having less value after having children is that she did what she’s supposed to do. She’s supposed to get married and have children. I’m not attempting to change anyone’s mind or say that I’m correct versus anyone else. I’m simply saying that it’s ridiculous to say that a woman loses her value because she wanted marriage and a family. Especially when that’s what this old school idea of what men think women should be. We all need to remember that life is fucked up sometimes and can get pretty fucking crazy. There are plenty of unfair things that happen to each of the two sexes. I can personally say that if my husband already had a kid or a few kids when I met him I still would’ve married him because he’s an amazing man. I love him with my whole heart. Real love doesn’t judge. Real love simply loves.
She also answers questions like her dad and it’s impossible for me to get enough of that
JP usually doesn’t sprinkle in “not to mention I’m a very attractive person and have an IQ of 130”
Who sprinkled in that sentence? 😂
I was just thinking that when I heard her respond!!! I could hear her father come through as she spoke. They are very deliberate and concise when they speak.
@@gutsfiend6678 In fact it's a very JP thing to say.
Yes the intonation was exactly the same!
The fact that you got all defensive and pissed off just proves you're too immature to get the man you want.
Men like him like to make women like you miserable because you wouldn't touch someone like him with a barge pole. You are extraordinarily beautiful, young and intelligent. Don't let that moron depress you. 99 percent of men would snap you up in a second! I am nowhere near as gorgeous as you and I am much older. I am also a single parent. I have never had trouble attracting men who propose marriage.
He has a child. That's an instant no from me.
She got married recently..
He is not gone stroke her ego. It is true. Ask any man. And who ever says no. Probably just trieng to get in ur pants and leave.
Agreed. Some guys (not men) need to stop spewing this type of garbage
Are u married tho?
“Do you understand that?” The men who are looking for single mothers for whatever their reason don’t, sir, they don’t understand that. That tone was so incredibly condescending and disgusting.
I know a few blokes who really only date single mothers. They are not the most confident of men.
Literally no man prefers a single mother over a woman with no kids. That’s delusional.
It's kinda weird if there looking for single moms
@@howtodoit3074 single mothers are usually more insecure. Insecure men are drawn to that insecurity as their short comings will be made up for by the fact she has a kid and he is stepping up as a father.
@@warrenmontgomery57 kinda creepy
I think people forget the power of connection. She has made a connection with someone and is now married again. So yes it is possible to find happiness but also possible to never find the one even if you have no kids. It is just life.
Her husband might be simp 😂😂😂 no high value men marry single mom hahaha
Also true 👍
Connection? Hell na 😂 yall just be making shit up bruh she has a whole kid with another man tht basically saved her father mikala is just insane thts why she got plastic surgery n took over Dr. Peterson n his work
I would withold the applause if I were you. Marriage is a marathon and not a sprint.
Do you really think Simp 2 will be able to wash out the rebound's taste out of her mouth?
Lol. There is often a correlation between the number of pictures on social media and the amount of insecurity a woman has.
You seriously still think marriage is about "finding happiness?"
It is closer to War than a Scavenger Hunt.
You choose to make it work, especially when it all is going wrong.
God bless you and your kids❤😅you are a treasure 😅Ask God to bring you a wonderful man to enjoy your life together 😀🙏🏼❤️
As a 49 yo man who has been raising 2 kids alone for 11 years, I can say single fathers (who are custodial) have it much worse. I stopped dating 5 years ago by choice and am happier. My kids are teens, I have money, freedom, no debt except for a mortgage, 6 figure job, investments, crap ton of technical knowledge and certifications which begets a high level of self sufficiency in the practical sense. I feel sorry for those who feel incomplete because they're single. A relationship is like any other ship : it requires constant maintenance and work or it sinks.
A lot of people are praying for what you're living, man. Dating does not worth the drama. I'm trying and improving myself to be in your place when I'm 49
same here...I was 48 and had two full time children in grade school....most women my age, their children were in high school etc....got tired of women wanting me to apologize for raising my kids....found a lady in Ukraine with a 5 year old....1000 hours of conversation and now 13 years later...the 5 year old is freshman in college...and our 11 year old is on the boxing team....wasnt at all easy but she had traditional family values...
No child support from the mother (no idea where she is), no help from my family or her family. I get Canada Family Benefits because I continue to lower my taxable income by investing. I also get contributions from feds toward their education savings plan. We don't have to worry.@@micro61micro
Thanks for sharing. Respect
Thanks for sharing daniel. My mother left me and my two brothers alone with my father who went through war, lost his mother and father and at the same time literally took care of us 3 brothers. Now we are a little bit older but he cares about us more than anything. He doesnt want any relationships and just wants the best for us.
She’s freaking Jordan freaking Peterson’s daughter, she ain’t no regular single baby mama. She has a strong father who nurtured her mind into something amazing. She’s very high value.
Father was weak to raise a single mom that left the baby daddy.
@@30daisie maybe he’s not that strong. His son is a skinny little beta.
@@user-ku2tq1js2v And either Jordan or his son could beat you in chess ez money, what about it? Or literally just hire someone to take care of that running mouth if they wanted to, y'know considering they're at elite status in society, and you're not? No one would know. It would be handled cleanly. Good thing they're moral and don't know you exist, nor would even give a shit if they heard this "high-test alpha" ranting.
He's lifted MILLIONS of men from pointless suffering and enlivened the Western masculine spirit. That's STRONG strong. Beyond strong. Heroic.
He benched 225 pounds and lived around guys who went to work on oil rigs LMAO
If you were in Peterson's position you would've cracked under the pressure of the SJW riots and intense lines of questioning in the all the interviews. Being on stage and slammed with every political accusation you could imagine and he never fell, he successfully swatted off every little petty attack and every attempt at outright character assassination and stayed relevant, only becoming more and more successful. ATNI-FRAGILE. Years of it. You speak a strong game but his strength exceeds yours, in sheer verbal articulate ability, he's robust and immovable unlike you and has better general comprehension of the world by facing it head-on. You couldn't have braved the harsh Canadian winters with nothing to do but drink, smoke and race cars down the road. He's handy and crafty always fixing things like a man should and his father took him hunting as a BOY in the brutal cold. If you were having AKATHISIA due to benzo addiction there's no way you would have wanted to choose to live and you couldn't have gone into the coma he did to conquer it because you don't have the links in Russia, and it would have gotten to you and eventually extinguished your will. You have no influence. He's rich. He's tough. He's a genius. A respected scientist and professor and yet remains a REAL MAN. He's adored and respected with a very successful series of careers and a wonderful family he has taken care of and loved. His genetic line will trace into perpetuity, where yoourrrss...ah well, that's a different story, clearly. You don't end up that bitter when you've successfully procreated. Good luck finding someone. Bend your arrogant snivelling knee to your next boss just to make a living wage. If you have any friends I'll bet they're just as miserable and dysfunctional as you. Only weak men run their mouths when they're in a lowly position. JP and Andrew Tate have EARNED it baby.
@@fury_saves_world imagine writing all this lol. You must be a girl
@@user-ku2tq1js2v Wasting your time would have been fun. And I put the big punches at the top for smooth brain accomodation
Saying stuff like this to a single mum is bullying, but what made mikhaila's response beautiful is not just what she said but her disposition, she didn't go all emotional and raise her voice but rather displayed emotional maturity. 💯
Its the truth
I'm a full time single dad.
It is simply the truth. People my age (30) without kids, aren't looking for someone with kids.
@@dallasgauthier3543 You are correct. I am a single father, and I run through girls like this looking for fathers for kids that aren't theirs, yeah right. I hit and quit these women, pump and dump, lol. That is this womans reality because when her looks run out she won't even get that. Unless she settles for les.. HAHAHAHAAAAAAAA
@@JohnnyBlaze-w5fas a single father you are just as useless ❤
Its not bullying at all.
But did she really have to disparage other women and tell him that she's essentially better than they are?
It's not about FINDING someone. Live your life.
Yes 🙏😍
Lol stop it, nobody on this planet wants to be alone. Basic human nature.
You're absolutely right. When you stop the stress inducing rituals of dating, especially if you think you're going to find a decent mate at "da club", and it's meant to be for you, it will fall right into place. It happened to me and she was a single mom. I married a ready made family.
@malcolmn.5222 not everyone is hell bent on finding a partner. And just bc you choose not to get married doesn't mean you're "alone."
@@bodyofhopesingle people all "alone" on an island to which no one else can travel!
His statements say so much more about himself than they could ever say about her.
Facts
Nailed it
You’re right… His statement shows you he operates with logic and facts
@@Natehiggerstha3rd No. His statements were false: women are not of less value for . You can not change the value of people. We are priceless.
Nor are children “baggage”: children are gifts.
Plenty of men will go for the woman they want whether she has children or not.
I’ve already dated two men w/o trying as a single mom of three (shortly after divorce), with multiple additional offers to date from others which I made clear from the get-go I didn’t see them this way. These men know I have children.
His statements and attitude are that of a pseudointellectual misogynist who wanted to do what they always do: attempt to devalue women in a baseless attempt to make himself think that men are the superior sex: aka sexism and baseless judgment…projecting because women likely don’t find him or his attitude toward women, attractive.
She calmly and eloquently refuted him (and went on to marry a rich and successful man as a single mom, proving his discriminatory and baseless, ignorant stereotype, wrong).
No they’re true and rooted in evolutionary biology. Women seem to have a hard time with the truth which is why we lie to you all the time
She is so much like her father and I enjoy to listen to both of them speak.
Only in talking mannerisms.
That last it she said is literally what JBP warns others females not to be.
shes a moron unlike her father
She's a little spunkier and seems to have more of a personality. But factual like him
I don't think JP would fly private to romainia to land on Top G's D!
Women who chose to be single mothers do it to the detriment of the child. But yes, sexual marketplace value drops precipitously if you have a child.
I'm so happy that you got married and that this goes to show that not all women are the same it was a very beautiful wedding you had congratulations mikhaila.
She got married after having a child with someone else?
I thought her husband was the father of her child?
@@British-Dragon-Simulations yeah I have the same question.
She married her baby's daddy...
@Pekom L damn she’s already Married??
Come back in about 5 years and tell me her status in terms of marriage. I been on that rodeo and let’s say the man has a lot to learn.
Bro most men don’t wanna deal with single mothers on a serious level
😂😂😂 MOST men aren’t worth dating bro! Good way to weed em out I say!
Mom divorced w 2 small kids waay back had no prob remarrying a good guy st 40. Still rockin after 45 yrs. Sister, divorced w 2 kids, remarried great guy at 39. Together 10 yrs. Cousin, widowed w 3 older kids. Remarried in her 40s. Together at least 20 yrs.
And I'm a single mom who doesn't deal with men. Lol. So no hard feelings there.
@@sxwrtr918 exceptions, do not make the rules
@@kingkufu3122
Of course they don't. But these convenient pop assumptions are not hard and fast 'rules.' They are prevailing beliefs by certain types of people that sometimes prove untrue.
This aged really well. He’s a fool, she knows her value, and married well with no problems 😂😂😂 His negging seems like wishful thinking.
He’s a douche bag. Just like Rich Cooper with the whole Unplugged Alpha stuff. If you have to call yourself an Alpha, you are not an Alpha.
She found herself a Beta Simp? Good for her, the odds of that marriage lasting is extremely low statistically speaking
He's actually completely correct. Stop talking.
His observation is largely based on general trends based on social science. You know, the same methodology that her father employs in arriving at his insights. As with every general trend in life, there will always be exceptions. That’s why it’s never wise to mistake general trends/rules for inescapable/universal truths. To her credit, she’s smart enough to realize this truth about life.
@@chrish2112 “stop talking” weakest shit I’ve ever heard
Such a powerful and truthful clip. Keep your eyes open single men.
Her squint, when he said “less” I knew she could handle her own!!
Handle her own? We judge each other on a hierarchy we internalize. She doesn't need to handle her own. She needs to find someone with similar values.
Her squint made me think she’s instantly taken offence, rather than understanding the point of what he said. And she didn’t going by her reply.
my mom was a single mom, she had two jobs and two kids and is very intelligent. she has a husband and her own business now, and i’m proud to say that she is mom, especially considering she basically raised us on her own with a little help from my grandparents. she did everything to support us. she valued her family over everything and that in itself is admirable. just goes to show that single moms are not at all less than anyone else.
Her husband is a beta
@@kafpachecoparizot9518 anyone who uses the word “beta” is so unbelievably sad. do some serious self reflection.
Your mom had you with Chad and she found herself a beta with no chance to question her past
I definitely strongly agree ❤
@@hurricanetortillla doesn't matter bro, stuff like this is a rarity and also anecdote is worth nothing. Use data if you want to make an argument unless you want to say "there are exceptions"
My mother had 5 children and was single my step father was one of the most brilliant men I’d ever met . I taught him to read when I was in 5 th grade . He caught on very quickly he could build u a house a wall work on any type of car and do electric work and plumbing most of all he treated my mother like the queen she was . No better man could I ever have had in my life . If I end up being half the man he was it would be a miracle !
If he married a woman with 5 kids that because that's all he could get and he was lacking
If he married a woman with 5 kids that because that's all he could get and he was lacking
@@jmoe4896 Or women these days have ridiculously high standards and overvalue themselves because of guys over validating them plus society tells men to do better when many times it's the women that should lower their standards to a reasonable level. Most women won't date a tradesman because it SEEMS low status when in reality a lot of those guys make good money, so is it really that those guys are lacking or is it that women think those guys are lacking because women primarily marry for money and status and can't assess the situation accurately?
@@secretagent4610 does not matter he still chose to marry her
@@secretagent4610what makes them worth the trouble then?
The same people taking issue with him saying high and low value are the same people who support abortion guaranteed.
Taking the life and all value of an innocent baby for mostly selfish reasons but acting like they have some sort of moral superiority. Then act offended when you acknowledge people have values in certain situations.