How Belgium Changed Fashion

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    Annoyingly, there seems to be a lot of different dates on the internet in regards to the Antwerp six. Some sites say they first showed in London in 1986, others say 1987. Some sites say that Margiela and Walter van Beirendonck graduated together, some say Margiela graduated a year earlier. I think this discrepancy may be due to fashion's slightly irritating dating system (eg. S/S 2023 shows are held in Late 2022, so S/S 1987 shows were probably also held in late 1986). I tried my best to use what I found to be the most accurate dates and facts but there is always room for error. I also tried to use primary sources for information from people who were around at the time like Geert Bruloot himself who talked about the Antwerp six in an interview so that all the info I talk about in this video is accurate. Hope you enjoyed and learned something even if you already knew about the Antwerp six.
    Here are links to some of the articles I referenced for this video:
    1granary.com/industry/masterm...
    www.thecut.com/2015/04/timeli...
    www.thefashionlaw.com/the-ant...
    www.grailed.com/drycleanonly/...
    autre.love/this-and-that-main...
    www.wanderful.design/en/inter...
    www.businessoffashion.com/art...
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  • @undercooked13
    @undercooked13 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    You see Walter and Dirk walk around and shop together quite often

  • @FashionRoadman
    @FashionRoadman ปีที่แล้ว +99

    So many interesting aspects to the Antwerp six that are so fascinating. Even down to how the fashion department in the Royal Academy of Fine Arts was formulated and encouraged their designers to think in an artistic way. I also love the stories of the things they all brought to the British Designer show in London’s Olympia.
    E.g:
    Dries Van Noten - a small selection of men’s jackets and shirts
    Ann Demeulemeester - a few pairs of sunglasses
    Dirk Bikkembergs - a shoe collection
    It shows how they were really just winging it and taking every chance as it came. Such a refreshing era to look into.

    • @fashionlover4
      @fashionlover4  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It's super interesting how they did it. Considering how they all must have brought so little I guess they really had no option but to show as a group. Any chance you remember where you heard what they brought? Sounds like an interesting read/listen.

    • @FashionRoadman
      @FashionRoadman ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@fashionlover4 Walter told me when I spoke to him in Belgium - not sure if that part of the conversation made it into the interview I posted though

    • @FashionRoadman
      @FashionRoadman ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@fashionlover4 there’s also a dries van noten book where it’s mentioned it’s called “Dries Van Noten : Shape, Print and Fabric”

  • @isaacavasquez
    @isaacavasquez ปีที่แล้ว +25

    the "antwerp six" sounds like the "elite four" in pokemon but for fashion school lmfao

  • @umita3902
    @umita3902 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Hii, I’m from Brussels, Belgium.
    I’ve only realised while studying in the Netherlands this year how the Belgian culture is so focussed on individualism and uniqueness.
    I loved how someone said they went to london and just winged it, in brussels we would say “vite fait” which means just doing something quickly without putting much effort into it, but still having something to show.
    It keeps surprising me how my small country keeps putting out these amazing artists and designers.
    Loved the video

    • @ScarlettEPeach
      @ScarlettEPeach ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Was that the same way with the drc? Let's cut off our ancestors limbs so they'll pick rubber faster. "Vite fait"

    • @umita3902
      @umita3902 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ScarlettEPeach
      I hope not!!
      Leopold II did such terrible things and the government had to take over the colony, but didn’t do much about the cruelty either. i’ve been currently researching more about it and spreading awareness, also about the human zoo of 1897 and expo 58. the fact that there are still reminders of this history (eg. the Atomium) that tourists just happily walk by is saddening. Belgium is so glorified, for sure in the fashion industry, which makes it hard for people to see the harsh reality on what this country has been built on.

  • @myychll
    @myychll ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I wish Marina would get more recognition. I love her designs so much, it’s incredible

  • @sams3015
    @sams3015 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I’m going to Antwerp next month so I’ve been reading up more about them. This video is perfect timing

    • @kyo_qi
      @kyo_qi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ayy enjoy your time there

    • @PiLLO360
      @PiLLO360 ปีที่แล้ว

      How was it?

  • @nimityaka
    @nimityaka ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Raf Simmons is one of my fav designers. I love his minimalistic style with a twist.

  • @seppoweyns
    @seppoweyns ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of the best reasons i am happy to be from antwerp i went to walter his stocksale and the cool thing is that his stocksales are held at his atelier where he makes everything. If you are around his atelier you actually see him a lot he was also just chilling at the stocksales

  • @prod6mill.512
    @prod6mill.512 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    damn footage of Martin Margiela on the runway is sum i never seen before, awesome video

  • @quinnaitkenhead
    @quinnaitkenhead ปีที่แล้ว

    good shit man, always grateful to learn new details to these age old stories and legends

  • @kobbibanks5999
    @kobbibanks5999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks fashionlover4 for another insightful vid

  • @pseudo148
    @pseudo148 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was fantastic, I love your more deep dive videos, and use of b roll, I could watch this all day, keep it up gifted tailor

  • @inkarlcerating
    @inkarlcerating ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was fortunate enough to meander and peruse in Antwerp 3 months ago. I also have a vlog about it. I totally forgot that Walter teaches at the Royal academy. We also went to Ann Dem on the day they did the Paris show and she even rang in the store’s phone to check on things ( accdg to the shop assistant) crazyyyy

  • @dinislopes2399
    @dinislopes2399 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! What sources should I use for further learning the Antwerp 6?

  • @Emanuele_Cantamesse
    @Emanuele_Cantamesse ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I choose to focus my graduate thesis on the importance of old and new Antwerp fashion scene so this was really helpful, where can I find some info about Antwerp designer excluding the ordinary articles on the main websites?

    • @charlotteklewais
      @charlotteklewais ปีที่แล้ว

      I found the book '50 years of fashion academy' really interesting. There is a lot of in-depth information about their time at the academy but also on how they started and all the steps they took along the way. Worth reading it!

  • @Devananta-Rafiq
    @Devananta-Rafiq ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Banger video! Antwerp 6 such a game changer group

  • @buttershy_
    @buttershy_ ปีที่แล้ว

    i love this video, a very creative and apt title!

  • @eminkirac4712
    @eminkirac4712 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Im straight. But Id twist curls into walters chesthair while Listening to his heart beat.

  • @Ardamisc
    @Ardamisc ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bungee boots are indeed goated, too bad I got boat feet lmao.

  • @bodincastell1263
    @bodincastell1263 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the belt Martin is wearing on the catwalk an inverted pentagram, interesting!

  • @umaxi96
    @umaxi96 ปีที่แล้ว

    Currently live in Antwerp :))

  • @rayxusa.mp3
    @rayxusa.mp3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i concur, the bungee metal hell is indeed the goat

  • @nikacomfort6242
    @nikacomfort6242 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone send me the link to the first runway??

  • @bodincastell1263
    @bodincastell1263 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you know where Dirk Bikkembergs is today? Rarely anything about the man himself online. Thank you, great talk.

  • @secretlich8284
    @secretlich8284 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where do you find all your runway footage?

  • @qoladipo5754
    @qoladipo5754 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yo dude thought it was worth noting that Dirk van Saene teaches at the Antwerp Fashion School so he isn’t as seperated from fashion as media make him out to be 😁

  • @tzegoh333
    @tzegoh333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The way that people talked about them, it's like as though they changed the world fundamentally. But really, they sold clothes, that's about it.

  • @daviddion1764
    @daviddion1764 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dries Von Noten sold his company to Puig.He is still the creative director.

    • @Devananta-Rafiq
      @Devananta-Rafiq ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's either Dries got 49% minority or 51% majority I forget

    • @prettyaron
      @prettyaron 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Devananta-Rafiqminority

  • @heartbroken6658
    @heartbroken6658 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg my biggest dream is to get into the royal academy in Antwerp.

  • @gpu213
    @gpu213 ปีที่แล้ว

    agree that the dirk boots are elite.

  • @theblackmag7475
    @theblackmag7475 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yo bro you killing this shit lmfao

  • @Whodnl
    @Whodnl ปีที่แล้ว

    The legend

  • @Luke-vg2tg
    @Luke-vg2tg ปีที่แล้ว

    whats the collection at 4:51 ?

  • @maxelling2739
    @maxelling2739 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can’t tell if my fashion sense is poor or highly anointed for knowing the only 3 that you didn’t mention on face value, admittedly after naming the other few they are immediately recognizable

  • @Air.keccc1
    @Air.keccc1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why are they all so damn attractive

  • @undercooked13
    @undercooked13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should make videos on lesser known just as talented belgian disgners from belgium/ antwerp, like Stephan Schneider

  • @ilyproxy
    @ilyproxy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    shouldve kept original title😔

  • @ambergris5705
    @ambergris5705 ปีที่แล้ว

    Makes you think of whether Josephus Thimister would still be with us if he had a group like this with him...

  • @miafethiere2366
    @miafethiere2366 ปีที่แล้ว

    dirk bikkembergs spring 2004 is one of my favorite runways i wish he kept doing womenswear

  • @luckycat4241
    @luckycat4241 ปีที่แล้ว

    whyd you change the title it was good

  • @soxslol
    @soxslol ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i am a proud belgian

  • @plutovsthewurld
    @plutovsthewurld ปีที่แล้ว

    im from bruxelles

  • @fajnegadanie8465
    @fajnegadanie8465 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had 1 minut mindfuck seeing this title

  • @zacstarkey1369
    @zacstarkey1369 ปีที่แล้ว

    In this world tame impala is a 5 member boy band

  • @robby3499
    @robby3499 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Saene is more pronounced like saa nuh

    • @fashionlover4
      @fashionlover4  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh wow never would've guessed that, thanks

    • @robby3499
      @robby3499 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s pretty hard to describe the pronunciation exactly but that’s the closest I can get it, the ea is more like a long dutch a

  • @tafm4426
    @tafm4426 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im apart of Gen z and I won't disappoint

  • @Rotclubb
    @Rotclubb ปีที่แล้ว

    Sick

  • @chillguy7925
    @chillguy7925 ปีที่แล้ว

    antwerp six?

  • @_Puke
    @_Puke ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I liked the video because of the furry. That’s it.

  • @caipirinha70
    @caipirinha70 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saene rhymes with Shah-nuh

  • @bloba6969
    @bloba6969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What the hell is this title

    • @fashionlover4
      @fashionlover4  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My mistake

    • @bloba6969
      @bloba6969 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fashionlover4now my comment is outdated

  • @buttershy_
    @buttershy_ ปีที่แล้ว

    what

  • @hey-ek1rv
    @hey-ek1rv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    speak slower please do it for me my brain is slow

  • @wewepolapy
    @wewepolapy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    just here to let you know you absolutely butchered all dutch/vlaamse names

  • @hiwelcometochillis2579
    @hiwelcometochillis2579 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They all flop

  • @undercooked13
    @undercooked13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    hi , Im from antwerp if you want some extremely insight giveing interviews check out THE MOST podcast

  • @eprohoda
    @eprohoda ปีที่แล้ว

    Fasshionlover4- Yahoo-beautiful , all the best, 😲

  • @typarrydean1954
    @typarrydean1954 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats your IG?