@@TML0677 Really good actually, it behaves and handle crashes nicely, have a functionnal PDC, has great workflow ideas, it suits me to arrange my tracks better than Ableton where i feel lost when i have to develop a seed i dont feel overwhelmed by the information on the screen and i like the community on reddit and discord.
Amazing how many of those I remember. FL for me. When I started using a DAW I was doing electronic music only, so although I had a cracked version of Cubase (which I'd used in the early days on a friend's Amiga or ST, he had both!) the sequencing workflow was much more intuitive in FL. In the early 2000s I was very involved in a music forum and I'd say the active members were 30% FL, 20% Cubase, 20% other and, surprisingly, 30% Orion. It was very popular and there was a definite FL vs Orion thing going on, which reminded me of the Speccy vs C64 battles back in the day.
Doctor T's KCS - keyboard control system - absolutely rocked! It really focussed on performing then triggering stuff with the computer keyboard. It turned my C64 and my Amiga Keyboards into an instrument one could jam upon. Great fun! Nowadays I'm transitioning from Ableton to Bitwig, though both are great.
Thank you for this video. I spotted a few omissions on the way, such as opcode, voyetra, master tracks pro, quartz audio master, among others, and the adlib composer, to name just a few, and I believe that the amiga had a few more things such as bars and pipes,
I remember researching Opcode SVP and Quartz, and downloading their images. How did I forgot to put them in? Maybe I read that they are sequencers or Midi only, so I ditched them, who knows lol. Thanks for the comment man
@@TML0677 Quartz wasnt neither was vision both had dtd options. I used quartz for a few things as I was also demoing for Hercules back in the day in 97.
I started using software for music production in 1994 when I got Cakewalk Home Studio (when Cakewalk came from 12-Tone Systems). It wasn't a DAW yet since it only did MIDI sequencing, but it opened the door to Cakewalk evolving into SONAR. I loved it and worked with it way more than I did hardware sequencing. I still use Cakewalk by Bandlab today since I stuck with the Cakewalk brand over the years. I tried FruityLoops and Reason, but Cakewalk always drew me back in because it's what I learned first and I love it. Glad to see it's still around and still growing. Shout out to you adding the Ensoniq PARIS system in the non-DAW category. I lusted after PARIS in the late 90s but could not afford such a thing at the time. I really miss Ensoniq too. Sad to see such an innovative company get eaten by Creative Labs and then killed off along with E-mu Systems. Damn you Creative! Excellent work!
Migrated from a hardware sequencer (Roland MC500) to Cakewalk in 1996. Never looked back, and have been using Cakewalk > Sonar > Cakewalk by Bandlab ever since.
There was a release called “fruity tracks” came out similar time with “fruity loops” The idea was to make loops in FL and sequence them in Fruity Tracks.
An old timer here .... the 2 that I remember using in the late 90's early 2000's that aren't on your list are Sonic Solutions and Waveframe. Sonic Solutions was more of a digital mastering editor, and Waveframe was mostly used for TV/film audio post production. For "trackers", there was also the Otari RADAR, which was a stand-alone box like the Fairlight. And FWIW, I've been a ProTools user since around 2001.
Wow, Waveframe was really a piece of work. I had it and couple of others (Opcode and Quartz Studio)in the popular Daws part 1, then decided to transfer them in less popular part. Then I forgot. Man..Wasn't sure at first, but now I see pics chopped in folder. Damn.
Thanx paps. So Pro Tools, nice.. I tried it, Reaper was easier for me. But then, I was a home/local musician/guitarist first. Pro Tools is a must have for the industry, especially there across the pond as I am aware
@@TML0677 I've done way more post-production than music in my career, so yeah, ProTools has been the standard in that industry forever. All DAWs pretty much work the same these days. I've used Reaper, Harrison Mixbus, and Cubase, but always seem to come back to ProTools for the muscle memory.
I used Spectral Synthesis StudioTracks hard disk recording system back in 1990. Serious stuff... the company later changed to Audioprism. Wasn't too popular despite it was a windows 3.x software. The hardware was expensive. Also, you could have mentioned Turtle Beach as well. Circa 1990. Thanks for showing us that.
You missed the first real computer based DAW, Opcode Studio Vision in 1990. It was the first true full combination of a full fledge professional midi sequencer combined with recording of audio tracks, all in one. The Studio in a box! Pro Tools came a year earlier but it didn't have midi abilities. Your criteria for DAWS wasn't met with Farilight 1979 (or the one imaged from 1982) with no hard disc recording, many 80:s sequencer releases including the first Cubase with Midi only etc. The real interesting story for the development of the DAW starting with studio vision and on was the increase in number of simultaneous tracks (2 or 1 in stereo for Vision but 16 for it that could be muted/unmuted recalled), the inclusion of a digital mixer with faders and EQ, the ability to use any soundcard in a normal PC and not special types of hardware, the inclusion of plug-in effects, vst-instruments, pitch correction, time stretching a la ableton etc. Lot's of extremely important points in the history of the evolution the DAW!
Yeh! My first was (the later) DOP Digital Orchesttrator Plus, That came along with for example the snd-crd "TurtleBeach Multisound Pinnacle" (Kurzweil K2000 sampler built in) Superb for the time being! Had to set specific IRQ-adresses ;-)
The title of this video made it sound very interesting. Unfortunately, as somebody with low vision, I wasn’t able to get anything out of it. There are lots of people who are low vision, or blind in the audio and music world. Please don’t exclude us when you put out interesting content like this. A voiceover on the video makes a world of difference for people like me.
Wow, great collection. But the screenshot here 2:04 on the left side doesn’t look like from a Mac but from an Atari. Don‘t know where it came first though… 8-)
There was one missed that was written specifically for the MT32 or in my case the LAPC1 , called Ballade sometime in the early nineties. Not very friendly for sharing files.😒
why lie to people? You can't be bothered to be comprehensive, but you pretend.... NO SAMPLITUDE..... what else have you? not gonna subscribe to a dishonest channel
Samplitude is at 1:54 If you need glasses go get them. And you are free to go and subscribe on other channel that has a list of more then 20 daws... Oh wait.. There is NONE
What's your DAW of choice? I personally switched from FL to Reaper some 10 y ago.
Bitwig
Nice. How is it?
@@TML0677 Really good actually, it behaves and handle crashes nicely, have a functionnal PDC, has great workflow ideas, it suits me to arrange my tracks better than Ableton where i feel lost when i have to develop a seed i dont feel overwhelmed by the information on the screen and i like the community on reddit and discord.
using reaper because i can't afford any daw. although i like to switch to ableton
Cubase
Amazing how many of those I remember.
FL for me. When I started using a DAW I was doing electronic music only, so although I had a cracked version of Cubase (which I'd used in the early days on a friend's Amiga or ST, he had both!) the sequencing workflow was much more intuitive in FL.
In the early 2000s I was very involved in a music forum and I'd say the active members were 30% FL, 20% Cubase, 20% other and, surprisingly, 30% Orion. It was very popular and there was a definite FL vs Orion thing going on, which reminded me of the Speccy vs C64 battles back in the day.
Doctor T's KCS - keyboard control system - absolutely rocked! It really focussed on performing then triggering stuff with the computer keyboard. It turned my C64 and my Amiga Keyboards into an instrument one could jam upon. Great fun! Nowadays I'm transitioning from Ableton to Bitwig, though both are great.
Thank you for this video. I spotted a few omissions on the way, such as opcode, voyetra, master tracks pro, quartz audio master, among others, and the adlib composer, to name just a few, and I believe that the amiga had a few more things such as bars and pipes,
I remember researching Opcode SVP and Quartz, and downloading their images. How did I forgot to put them in? Maybe I read that they are sequencers or Midi only, so I ditched them, who knows lol. Thanks for the comment man
@@TML0677 Quartz wasnt neither was vision both had dtd options. I used quartz for a few things as I was also demoing for Hercules back in the day in 97.
Hercules speakers or turn-table thingy...or something else?
@@TML0677 yeah they used to make sound cards
I started using software for music production in 1994 when I got Cakewalk Home Studio (when Cakewalk came from 12-Tone Systems). It wasn't a DAW yet since it only did MIDI sequencing, but it opened the door to Cakewalk evolving into SONAR. I loved it and worked with it way more than I did hardware sequencing. I still use Cakewalk by Bandlab today since I stuck with the Cakewalk brand over the years. I tried FruityLoops and Reason, but Cakewalk always drew me back in because it's what I learned first and I love it. Glad to see it's still around and still growing.
Shout out to you adding the Ensoniq PARIS system in the non-DAW category. I lusted after PARIS in the late 90s but could not afford such a thing at the time. I really miss Ensoniq too. Sad to see such an innovative company get eaten by Creative Labs and then killed off along with E-mu Systems. Damn you Creative!
Excellent work!
Migrated from a hardware sequencer (Roland MC500) to Cakewalk in 1996. Never looked back, and have been using Cakewalk > Sonar > Cakewalk by Bandlab ever since.
There was a release called “fruity tracks” came out similar time with “fruity loops” The idea was to make loops in FL and sequence them in Fruity Tracks.
An old timer here .... the 2 that I remember using in the late 90's early 2000's that aren't on your list are Sonic Solutions and Waveframe. Sonic Solutions was more of a digital mastering editor, and Waveframe was mostly used for TV/film audio post production. For "trackers", there was also the Otari RADAR, which was a stand-alone box like the Fairlight. And FWIW, I've been a ProTools user since around 2001.
Wow, Waveframe was really a piece of work. I had it and couple of others (Opcode and Quartz Studio)in the popular Daws part 1, then decided to transfer them in less popular part. Then I forgot. Man..Wasn't sure at first, but now I see pics chopped in folder. Damn.
Thanx paps. So Pro Tools, nice.. I tried it, Reaper was easier for me. But then, I was a home/local musician/guitarist first. Pro Tools is a must have for the industry, especially there across the pond as I am aware
@@TML0677 I've done way more post-production than music in my career, so yeah, ProTools has been the standard in that industry forever. All DAWs pretty much work the same these days. I've used Reaper, Harrison Mixbus, and Cubase, but always seem to come back to ProTools for the muscle memory.
I recall Avid also had their own DAW before they bought Digidesign, but it probably never had any MIDI notes support in its lifetime.
I used Spectral Synthesis StudioTracks hard disk recording system back in 1990. Serious stuff... the company later changed to Audioprism.
Wasn't too popular despite it was a windows 3.x software. The hardware was expensive.
Also, you could have mentioned Turtle Beach as well. Circa 1990.
Thanks for showing us that.
I honestly didn't come across those DAWs in the research. Thanks a lot man. Every info matters. We are filling in our music library step by step!
Programs I’ve had experience with: Cakewalk, Acid (various versions, owned 4,7,10,), GarageBand, Audacity. Pre-DAW versions: Performer, Cool Edit 96, MIDI only Cakewalk (V3?), dabbled in various trackers.
You missed the first real computer based DAW, Opcode Studio Vision in 1990.
It was the first true full combination of a full fledge professional midi sequencer combined with recording of audio tracks, all in one. The Studio in a box!
Pro Tools came a year earlier but it didn't have midi abilities.
Your criteria for DAWS wasn't met with Farilight 1979 (or the one imaged from 1982) with no hard disc recording, many 80:s sequencer releases including the first Cubase with Midi only etc.
The real interesting story for the development of the DAW starting with studio vision and on was the increase in number of simultaneous tracks (2 or 1 in stereo for Vision but 16 for it that could be muted/unmuted recalled), the inclusion of a digital mixer with faders and EQ, the ability to use any soundcard in a normal PC and not special types of hardware, the inclusion of plug-in effects, vst-instruments, pitch correction, time stretching a la ableton etc. Lot's of extremely important points in the history of the evolution the DAW!
My first DAW was the Voyetra Digital Orchestrator I bought in the Mid-90s. Easy to use, so for me a good start to making music.
The 1 I missed😅. Thanks for letting us know! What are you using now for arranging those nice ambient sounds, if it's not a secret?
@@TML0677 I'm using Cubase 🙂
Yeh! My first was (the later) DOP Digital Orchesttrator Plus, That came along with for example the snd-crd "TurtleBeach Multisound Pinnacle" (Kurzweil K2000 sampler built in) Superb for the time being! Had to set specific IRQ-adresses ;-)
@@TML0677 Thank you for the nice comment. I am using Cubase
Wow, great work, you even included Samplitude, my favourite DAW in the 90s and early 2000s (on PC).
The title of this video made it sound very interesting. Unfortunately, as somebody with low vision, I wasn’t able to get anything out of it. There are lots of people who are low vision, or blind in the audio and music world. Please don’t exclude us when you put out interesting content like this. A voiceover on the video makes a world of difference for people like me.
The audacity screenshot looks the same for both versions 😂
Vegas, which evolved from Sonic Foundry Acid before they were bought out by Sony, yes it added video editing but still very much a DAW at heart.
I'm most interested in this one: AMCS - the Advanced Music Construction System
I compose with Samplitude ProX1 with AI and anything. Old but gold. For live I use Cantable.
Nice!...I think you left out Opcode Vision & Voyetra sequencer
Would like to see DR T'S KCS for the Amiga and Bars & Pipes included in that list.
I might do an updated vid in the future with all you guys told me added.
Sound Forge ❤
Twenty-four years and audacity have the same GUI 😳
Studer DyAxis is missing as well. (It cost me years of my life :))
Sorry to say you missed one out. Although I am struggling to remember it's name but I used it on Atari St520 in 1990/91.
Missed out Band in a box, Power tracks pro, and project 5.
You forget one of the biggest: Opcode Studio Vision Pro.
Don't forget Walk Band for android!
Thanx! I will throw it in along with the others you guys found (and I found these days) in an updated video
How could you miss the Scream Tracker?!
Nevermind, bunch of stuff at the very end of video :|
You forgot KORG Gadget?
Wow, great collection. But the screenshot here 2:04 on the left side doesn’t look like from a Mac but from an Atari. Don‘t know where it came first though… 8-)
You are right. Logic was briefly on Windows too. Which I didn't know. Thanx for the info.
Reaper, Cubase, Orion, Protracker, Symphonie pro. the best👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🥰🥰
3:27 Ableton design language hasn't changed _at all_
It would be cool to see a longer video going into more detail with some talking.
Would change the style of the channel which is: short visual info about musical tools. Maybe in the future... Thanx for the suggestion!
..also I spoke in english like 2 times in my life lol, and I really don't like AI voices...well see
I had no idea there were so many lol
There was one missed that was written specifically for the MT32 or in my case the LAPC1 , called Ballade sometime in the early nineties. Not very friendly for sharing files.😒
missed Opcode Vision!
What about MOTU Digital performer
no.9
@@TML0677 oops my bad
Auria & Cubasis
You missed the trackar Dreamstation 2.
Logic was the former company Emagic based in Rellingen Germany
When Apple bought it for 30 million $ they kickt out Windows 🤣
Reaper? Did i niss that one?
You missed it... It comes just before Ableton Live....
What about Mario Paint?
Monochrome Cubase looks so good. 🥰🥰🥰
This is just wrong, clearly you weren't there!
Missed Cakewalk’s Project 5
7:13
@@TML0677 missed that. Thanks for letting me know
Reason mentioned!!!?????? RAAAAHHHHH!!!!!! 🟧🟧🟧🟧
Cool synths
@@TML0677 been using reason for a hot minute since very late 2010
@@TML0677 Yeah... I agree. I own Reason 7
why lie to people? You can't be bothered to be comprehensive, but you pretend.... NO SAMPLITUDE..... what else have you? not gonna subscribe to a dishonest channel
Samplitude is at 1:54 If you need glasses go get them. And you are free to go and subscribe on other channel that has a list of more then 20 daws... Oh wait.. There is NONE