The Sad Truth About Nintendo Switch Cartridges
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 มิ.ย. 2024
- Nintendo switch cartridges and their games have some sad truths about them. This spills over in to the playstation and xbox market too! Wait t'ill you see whats really happening behind the scenes!
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The Nintendo Switch is one of the most charming and family-friendly consoles on the market right now. However, one big aspect of the Switch isn’t very friendly towards your wallet. For a lot of weird, and seemingly archaic reasons, games tend to cost more on the Switch than on other platforms.
That’s right, today TheGamer is going to do a deep dive into how Switch cartridges make games more expensive and the dreaded ‘Switch Tax.’
In this video, we’re going to cover which consoles and subscriptions actually give you the most bang for your buck, before laying out the tumultuous switch from cartridge to disc-based gaming. Then we’ll dig into why exactly Nintendo Switch games are sometimes more expensive and how the gaming industry will try to get more money out of you in the years to come. This one’s a doozy, so get ready to learn about one of the least discussed elements of video games.
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Are you still buying a switch?
Ooga chaka
Already have one.
Had one since day 1 of release
i have one
Andy Savs me too 😂😂
For people who don't want to sit through 12 minutes of senseless content: Switch cartridges are expensive and taste bitter if you put them in your mouth.
IDFBI agent [Lucky] To stop kids putting them in their mouths and choking on them.
IDFBI agent [Lucky] Some bitter chemical. I’m pretty sure it’s the same stuff parents can put on their kids nails to stop them biting them. Safe to “consume” but tastes vile.
@Smitty WerbenJagerManJensen wait...puppies?
Michael Nutt Thank you I didnt wanna sit through 12 mins of cash grab filler content for revenue
Are you telling me that this guy is complaining about how he can't eat his game cartridges?
The sad truth about Switch cartridges: They don’t taste like bacon
pokefriend123 I still taste each one, just to see if they are sticking to the nasty taste. lol
So sad ):
lol xd
They hurt really bad with their taste
They don't taste like chocolate either
Games are 60 dollars because of the cartriges
Nintendo e-shop: sells games at 60 dollars
The reason for that is game devs can lower prices and still get more money by raising the digital cost to match, second Nintendo probably charge them a little extra for the services they do on digital.
@@TheMagnay OK so that doesn't justify the consumer paying the same price or more for digital. We should pay less since we aren't paying for a cartridge that has to be manufactured, packaged, and shipped. Just my opinion.
@@missgrinch5940 actually it does, game devs are pumping more and more money into developing games but customers are not willing to pay any more for the game. So game devs need to make their money elsewhere and then everyone complains about that too. There is no winning for devs. Obviously there is going too far but i don't think matching in-store and online is at all.
also game stores like gamestop would be pissed if you could buy games cheaper on digital.
I think either way (and I felt the same years before this video was made), if you buy digital you are a sucker. Games, movies, and anything else available in a physical copy, simply because possession is 9/10th's of the law. I have the game in my hand, prove I can't play it, vs. I got hacked and lost my games/device failed and I lost my games/developer pulled game, can't download it again/my internet has a data limit, so it will take half my data allowance every month to download my games (meaning I paid more for the game because my data costs roughly $2/GB)/etc, I could do this all day.
Certainly there is some minor shortcoming with physical, but nothing the gaming community couldn't cope with for DECADES before digital was around....
Cartridges are a selling point for me, Ive always been a cartridge fan lol
They also hold their value especially Pokemon Games. I buy physical just because of resale in case I don't like the game I bought. I only buy digital if the game is super cheap & it's a game I don't mind losing in the future.
@@b4rs629 totally agree!
@@b4rs629 id rather just buy the games cheaper and not resell
same here
@@b4rs629 Dude Pokémon games hold their value so well it's insane. Pokémon Emerald costs more on the used market than a brand spanking new, fully fledged, AAA effort from Nintendo.
“You’re probably wondering why the switch uses cartridges instead of discs.”
This man is talking like we don’t know how big a disc is.
Flash memory isn't a disc or disk.
From a practical standpoint, no handheld system can work with a disc. With that said, the time will come - likely sooner than any of us think - that an optical drive and discs will be small enough for a handheld console. The one absolute must for anyone buying a Switch is to get a good quality carrying case with the little pouches for the cartridges and - like the medicine bottles, household cleaners, etc. say - KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN!
@@bubbasouth69 PSP? Also discs are getting obselete
@@bubbasouth69 Optical drives are dead. This video pointed out a key factor, Discs only replaced cartridges because they could hold more data than cartridges. That is no longer the case. We've come full circle and cartridges, or essentially SD cards, have much higher capacities than Blu-Ray. Plus optical drives can fail, the discs can be scratched which corrupts data, a sharp jerk can cause them to skip and cause issues. Where solid state media has absolutely none of those downfalls. We will never see an optical rive for a handheld console, and honestly in 2020 we shouldn't be seeing optical drives coming to the PS5 or next Xbox either. But, unfortunately we probably will.
@@bubbasouth69 Have you never heard of Sony Walkman CD-player? Handhelds with discs would be fine, and they'd be just as big as a Nintendo Switch.
So, I clicked on the video for a sad truth, didn't find not a single one just rambling about how cartridges cost more than CD's to manufacture something almost everyone knows.
which is funny because you can find cartridges almost always cheaper than digital
@@Confruggy yeah agreed, physical media ends up being cheaper for the consumer because it can be reused many times given off to many people. When old games aren't on sale digitally they usually cost retail. Only thing that sucks about digital I go digital on PS4 but physical in switch.
Yup.
Bunch of filler .
I almost liked but you already have 69
@@bleedingpines4103 75 now.
The real infuriating thing is that digital versions of games cost as much as physical copies; despite not having anything to manufacture. Digital versions should cost 5 to 10 bucks less.
And physical versions drop in price. Very rarely do digital versions ever drop permanently in price and they usually cost far more on sale than a physical copy.
And digital won't allow you to sell the game in case you want/need. Meaning you lose money when buying digital.
I only buy digital if the game doesn't exist in physical and I really want the game or if the game is dirty cheap and I wouldn't be missing just for not buying it, like 90% or more discount.
This makes me happy that I rather get physical copies.
*cough cough* scratched disc's *cough cough*
@@clown454 at least you actually own it.
@@Arklay_98 I guess but its kinda annoying popping discs in and having it display an error message. I get what your saying though
Brent Borders if they take digital versions off the store, they won’t just stop and do nothing after. They’ll probably have to issue out refunds for the game in question. Plus anyone who gets the refund can just buy the physical version anyway
@@jacobwhiteley7217 unfortunately it has happened before. Take Fable 3 on pc for example. I have bought it, but now I cant re download it on new systems because it isnt on Microsoft's store.
This video has so much filler content it's unreal.
A literal waste of time.
This guy just makes up stuff games cost the same thing as xbox and playstation
@@Josh-lq8pz ... Did you actually try comparing costs? Because they are more expensive than their competitors, even during sales, Steam is expensive in my country and it's still cheaper than Switch.
@@UltimateGattai switch is not that expensive anyway so not like it even matters I'm buying be cause if experience because great exclusives they make
Greatly made video. But yes. Wasn't what I came for
@@Wiikstrom. no its not that great. Like i said , it chock full of pointless information that has absolutely nothing to do with the point of the video and everything to do with stretching it long enough to make ad revenue.
Everyone: Why can’t you just be normal?
Stadia: *_screams across screens_*
No cap i hate there adds
@@Xenethus tooo
STADIA ALLOWS YOU TO PLAY GAMES
I DIDN'T SAY STADIA WAS GOOD
@@yeetyeetiatepete5140 ?
@@delano6572 stadia just barely allows you to play
Physical is always my preference over digital download, once I'm done with a game, I can lend it to another family member. I hate that you can't do that with digital downloads. Also retailers drop the cost for physical games quite often which means that, depending on the title, the cost of bulk buying them is considerably low for them.
Yeah you can't lend digital games on the switch but believe it or not you can on steam, i do it all the time with mum.
Yeah, physical will be obsolete in the next few years.
@@alzearafat People have been saying that since the PS4 and Xbox One released and 9 years later physical is still going. Gran Turismo 7 has dropped by £15 in the UK on Amazon after just 2 weeks due to the backlash. I'll take that over paying disgusting £70 price tags for a piece of digital media thanks.
Physical also able to resale legally, which in the long run, is much cheaper than jailbreak ehem*pirate*ehem... You can buy a used game at 30 dollar, sell it back at 20 dollar, so you just "rent" the game at 10 dollar
i really wish i followed this advice. I only have about 3 Switch cartridges and about 20 digital games. So stupid! I'll never play some again and I'd love to share them.
Save time, the "sad truth" is like saying "SSD cost more to make than HDD", cartridges is more expensive to make than a blu-ray disk. A regular SD card cost US$9, a blu-ray disk is 10x for US$19 (1.90$/ea.). Okay, that add 10$ to cost of physical copy, but we are all aware of all the advantage this format has. On a side note, does not explain why it's still same price on eShop.
Marc Lauzon THANK you, the filler in this video is insane
The explanation to why they r expensive on eShop is because Nintendo knows ur gonna play for it lmao
Eshop is the same price as all the other parts of making a game - paying programmers, writers, graphic artists, translations, advertising, etc., does not change because it was sent a different way.
Worst case, eshop sales get them $10 closer to breaking even each sale.
eShop sells games for the same price as the physical cartridges so they don't cannibalize the retail market. If you could buy games cheaper on eShop than at Target, Target would simply refuse to carry the games.
The game is the product, not the media on which it is delivered. Why is an ebook same (or more) than you can buy the paperback? Why is a Digital album from iTunes the same price as buying a CD? The physical medium itself is a tiny proportion of the actual cost of producing any of these things. However the customer prefers to receive it they are making a judgement based purely on content, or physicality vs convenience.
And that is completely ignoring the fact that having the monopoly on digital distribution for a specific platform gives any hardware developer a distinct advantage. That Nintendo does not use this advantage to price out traditional high street retailers benefits everyone.
I don’t have to sit through a 90GB install every time I want to play a game on my switch.
The best reason for a Switch.
I hope you're joking. There aren't any downloads of that size on the switch. I don't even think the system could handle that large of a game. The most I've ever had to wait was 2 hours for Skyrim. It was 13 GB and that's with my slow ass internet. I stopped buying physical games because 2 of my cartridges just quit working...the switch kept saying that it couldn't recognize the game card. Digital is the way of the future so you might as well get used to it. Enjoy your carts while they last.
@@missgrinch5940 bro my god calm down. He was saying that other consoles have to download the whole game which takes a while, while the Nintendo switch doesn’t take a while. Next time you take something wrong... think about it before you get p’d off
@@missgrinch5940 ive had my mario kart 8 cartridge and mario bros u deluxe for a little more than year and they are still fine and work perfectly
and if you need more storage you can also buy micro sd cards
I miss just playing the game on disk / cartridge with out the online updates/installs i hate waiting (.) I bought the game I have it my hand i expect to play it when i get home not see a Stupid screen saying you need to install 69gb that is from online to play this game then by the time you get to play it you get interrupted by "sorry this game has a update of 70gb" , "update now" or "go offline" -_- same with the shity (os) updates windows pc doesn't brick you from playing online if you need a update on the system no but every console needs to brick you for a os update what aload of crap its just collection of data from all the consoles being sent back to the company for marketing your information about what games you would like to see in the future the console doesn't need a update every 4 days wtf spying Or sumthin i never see a change with updates unless the update is 2GB but most of the updates are 500MB and every 4 days -_- i get booted offline while playing a online multiplayer game saying you need to update now!!!! "Update" or "go offline" and "turn off console"
Remember when Nintendo didn’t want us to lick switch game cartridges?
Lol
Lol i was also going to say the same thing
I eat the cartridges for breakfast
@@Stupidoeatscheese Yeah Nintendo is telling me not to eat breakfast lol
I'm licking one right now...and Nintendo doesn't scare me
There’s one other major consideration. Buy the physical copy of a popular game (Zelda and Pokemon especially) and then care for it. 10 years later, that game still sells for what you bought it for - if not more. So yes, ore expensive to buy, but also represent a better investment.
Yea you can basically see this in the pricing of the games when buying them new. Games like botw and smash bros still go for their original prices but many others went down a bit
Regardless of what they sell for you can still resell them and make money back or lend them out. Can't do that with digital for the most part but you know, people are happy paying $70 for digital media that still cost more on sale than physical for reasons that I'll never understand.
Totally agree... In our family, when we buy cartridges we put the box in a safe place, just in case we want (or need) to resale them, and we taught our now 7 and 11 years old kids to take care of the cartridges, just for the same reason.
Funny u say that got snes games worth the time what I did in the 90s with case and booklet
Three times auto correct on it today
Short answer: they taste bad.
Long answer: they're expensive also.
My dad is picking up my switch after he gets off work tomorrow I’m so excited
Nice! Hope you love it!
u will love it
You'll have alot of fun man congrats!
Tell your dad to buy the red box model. It's the better switch
Ask for a refund there is a upcoming switch pro
I almost always go for physical copy of the game on console. I would not like to see future of gaming that goes only to digital.
I agree with you too there should be no future when games are digital only i love having a physical copy
*cries in steam but also laughs in having amazing VR games*
@@MapleTree0 I mean what I do is just run to Walgreens and buy a gift card. Had to go through my dad for my valve index controllers tho.
Also they hold their resell value incredibly well. Unlike downloads which have zero.
Digital is such a bad idea for gaming, I hope games stay the way they are and never go digital
“Nintendo” yeah all companies do this.
I have a Wii the graphics aren't bad but they aren't as good as an xbox one s obviously and lexos aka alex windows is Microsofts company and xbox is made by Microsoft so it would technically be xbox team up with apple
@@axylstephenson599 I am actually confused lmao 😂
Why does everybody hates Nintendo®?
@@foeispro103 I don't hate it its pretty good for travelling but for a home console its soo over priced the switch lite is fabulous for travelling wat I am saying is for the same price of the Nintendo switch u can get a ps4 slim or an xbox one s they run double the frame rate of Nintendo switch and of course there is a gurastic difference in graphics but for travelling it's good btw from the time that Nintendo switch launched till now it is still 300$ while the xbox one s u can find it as low as 230 - 250 $
@@axylstephenson599 I am saying windows cuz it rhymes by the word switch
"All-digital edition"
so it's useless whenever the corporate overlords decide to nuke your collection to force you to buy the new console.
“Well that’s almost 12 minutes of my time I’ll never get back!”
Pretty much what my thoughts were, after watching your video :-/
Right? “Video about switch”. Talks about every console to get over that 10 minute mark.
Yeah this video really lost track after about 5 minutes...
this guy just doesn't like nintendo very much he didn't make a video like this about xbox in fact all he makes is xbox videos
@@killswitch5738 "This guy" is just an out of touch corporation with a dozen channels that exists to make padded, barely even content videos to make as much profit as they can from old people and little kids :/
Nintendo is gay
The sad truth, they taste bad.. I just wanted to eat some damn good cartridges but *no* they had to make it taste bad. Still hurts too this day
deep fry em.
Boil dem
Microwave em
rost em
grill em.
Great video. Thanks for sharing. The thing is, I couldn’t agree more about the importance of cartridges for gamer freedom and long-term investment. I will always argue for and shell out the money for physical games. One of the reasons that I’m sad about the death of the 3DS/2DS family is because the cartridge library is amazing. Our local mom and pop game store has recently closed down, but I used to love the experience of going to the store and buying the new game, the anticipation of the ride home, the unboxing, etc. I recently pulled out my old, original XBOX Green Halo Edition and my entire game library from the garage. It fired up perfectly and I was playing an almost 20 year old system and games that I loved and the memory floodgates opened up. Great fun. I’ve also been burned too many times by e-shops. Going through it right now with LEGO LOTR. If I’m shelling out $40-$60, I want to have it forever. Additionally, a family where there are multiple devices amongst kids, this has simply been the best option for our family. We simply can’t afford (as well as most, I presume) to have digital copies of the same games on each device.
As far as business practices go, I’m kind of conflicted. While, I certainly don’t like the idea of a business who’s market is kids and families scamming their customers, I also know that customers approve or affirm those things by their purchase choices. Also, a company simply has to make a profit to survive. The reality is that we’ve got to buy the stuff or pay the price if we want them around. As an old timer who remembers the exact 1987 Christmas year when I unwrapped my brand new Nintendo Entertainment System as well as all the years that were shaped by those consoles/games, characters, and memories made, I’m really grateful that Nintendo is still around. The fact that I can pass down to my kids the same things that brought me joy as a kid because they’re still being reinvented in fresh ways... That’s pretty special and unique. Because I’m so invested, as long as Nintendo continues to keep the characters and stories of these iconic games alive in fresh new ways and keep “play” and “fun” at the center of their focus, I’ll continue to shell out my hard-earned cash for their products. Also, the truth is that Nintendo is not at the top of the list of the gaming market. They simply don’t sell what Microsoft, Sony, or even the Mobile Market does. So, I say, “Nintendo, don’t sell your soul, but do what you can to stay alive. Keep “play” at the center your game development. Keep the cartridges coming. Keep valuing your history and innovation. Keep being Nintendo and we’ll be here for you.”
The Switch line has done a great job responding to the modern gamer/consumer wants and needs (sustainability, portability, accessibility). I just saw another video where Takahashi himself announced that Metroid Prime 4’s cancellation was specifically due to the Switch’s limitations, but that production would resume on a “future Nintendo console”. This excites me on so many levels. So, I think the Switch has been a grand slam and they seem committed to improve upon it. That gives me hope that Nintendo has a bright future.
....Oh, and can someone find a way to preserve Miyamoto? Lol
i just want black joycons, the grey on the black frame is killing me
Daniel i want a bigger variety. i’d love some of the lite colors in joycons. i mean, blue and red is pretty, but i’d love some other options. black would look so clean tho
You can always do a shell swap
God yeah!
Skins/cases exist if you need that type of thing.
That was super random 😂😂😂 but fair point
Narrator: And then there’s the Stadia.....
Me: No I refuse to even consider that a console, it’s more of a....what’s the word? Oh yeah A SCAM!
YES!!!!
It was a good idea, but we're not quite at the point where it is feasible.
They rushed it, and they're going to pay for doing that.
uNLiKe OtHeR cOnSoLeS...StAdIa DoEsNt TaKe Up ToNs oF sPaCe.
**Barf!**
Stadia, itself, as a console (controller) has a huge problem, controllers eventually need to be replaced every 5-7 years, a console itself should last 15 years. So, say it gets drift, or a button falls off, or breaks, or other controller errors, it’s not just a controller that’s damaged, it’s THE CONSLE ITSELF.
Zondo well you can use a PS4 or Xbox controller with it
i like having the plastic containers and having them sit in my shelf idk having the physical thing makes me more excited
"They spray then with a bittering agent to keep kids from eating them. Dont lick your switch cartridges kids"
"Oh great, now I want to.."
The only sad thing about Nintendo switch cartridges is the fact that they dont taste good.
Cover them in peanut butter
@@fluffybabyyodasuwu4829
Heck yeah
Don't buy digital.
Have the joy of feeling you really OWN a game
buy games come in the box
Agree with you
Could also resell the physical copies in the future. With digital you cant
I have the joy cuz I bought Pokemon sword
@@daduck2584 My brother too 😆
The first few minutes of this video feels like a high schooler trying to meet the word limit.
Cartridges are faster and more reliable than disks, they can't get scratched or chipped either. You can fit an optical drive on a slim handheld system by the way. Sony did it 15 years ago. My PSP 2000 is very slim and light and has an optical drive. It easily fits in my pocket. I normally run digital copies of my games though.
i could see battery life taking a hit as well from spinning the disc.
@@MrVlodato Battery life was actually really good and the PSP had a battery that could by removed with a push of a button and swapped with a new one from a cradle charger. Battery life is better with digital copies of games but although the disk takes a bit of battery life it was still pretty good.
Yup, you pretty much have to be really gentle with disc based media. Forget device size and the load times of a spinning disc, you can have a small container of Switch games in the front of a bookbag. Can't do that with Disc without some protective container for your games and they still might scratch or break bumping around in a bookbag.
@@MrVlodato disks were amazing regarding the cool factor, but, in games like Midnight Club 3 Remix, yep, would take a whole minute to load, that was a downside...
I hate to break it to you, but the pads on them are actually guaranteed to get scratches and damage. contact by tension on pads is what kills most SD cards right after read write burn out and it isn't even a maybe... the more you use a SD card or these the less life they have, that is why people get micro SD cards and a standard SD card adapter so they can swap the micro to a new adapter when the pads give.... if you never accidentally damage a disc, using it will never actually damage the disc, but using these will always damage them, you just wont notice it for a while.
0:44 I think The reason why the games cost more for the switch is because it’s a lot harder to program for the hardware
The switch was designed to be easy to develop for to attract developers, after the Wii U that showed them that it’s an important thing to think about when developing a console
Cardridges for the switch are more expensive than CDs / DvDs / BDs because the memories are mask-roms.
Mask-Roms are created in the chip factory directly during the waver phase with the "data".
The content of these mask-roms can no longer be changed when they are created, since all the data contained therein is physically contained in the chip (through the wiring, the logic modules, connections, etc.).
The only way to destroy the data on a mask rom is to destroy the chip.
Flash memory, on the other hand, can only keep data safe for a limited time before it is lost.
So it may be that data on a flash memory is no longer readable after 10 years because too many memory elements have lost their charge.
It is more expensive because Nintendo fans accept everthing Nintendo does. Even if doesn't make sense
The sad thing is we cant eat the cartridges without losing out tastebuds
Would you like your order of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe with barbecue sauce?
@@Wooly4 yes
@Christian Castaneda I dont really care do what you want
When the switch cartridges have more memory than the premium version of the wii u
Why is this surprising? Its new tech..
I thought it was the exact same
Friggen oof
The sad thing is that you can't eat them :(
😁😁
The Gamer: Nintendo and Square's rekindled relationship
What I heard: SUPER MARIO RPG REMAKE
I'm not a fan of digital games. I prefer a hard copy. Then I feel like I actually own it. But maybe I'm just old school.
No disc isn't subject to possible loss of DRM. I would have personally bought a disc based xbone but cost. I'm probably migrating from Sony
I was actually wondering if I should buy a used copy of smash ultimate or If I should buy a digital copy of the game...
I like physical copy aswell but due to the switch being portable its just long to take all your games with u and although u get most physical copies cheaper, u get gold points on switch which u can use for discounts. There is also the voucher option (only if u have switch online) which lets u get 2 games from a list of big hits for £84 (save up to £40)
For me I own all my games and the digital games are always free for my Switch I mean
So i guess you hate download office or adobe or opera via internet after all before you own the program in a disk it was really yours not like now lol
*Opens video by talking about how companies will always find new ways to SCAM you and making it sound like the cartridges are part of some big scheme to ruin your wallet by saying there's things "Nintendo doesn't want you to know"*
*After a ton of filler, proceeds to explain how cartridges are necessary for the Switch's design to work and how the individual devs are the ones creating the problem in the first place, not Nintendo, with the problem in question already ceasing to be an issue anyway*
Oh, I get it, the video opens by saying companies will always find new ways to scam you, and then the video itself is a scam that wastes your time. Got it. Funny joke.
Tru this video is roasting xbox and ps4 man I really missed the past 10 seconds I didn't know this channel exists
I mean, this channel acts kinda like a company them self. HMM
ikr
LOL every damn gaming company is a scammer, well at least 95% of them are scammers and nintendo included. If they were honest we would not see older games selling for the price of new ones under the excuse of "remastered" BS, or the scam from nintendo were you have to pay a sub fee to play online that have a shitty services or the day 1 edition bullshit or season pass scam or pre-order bullshit where gaming companies try to make you buy their games before you find out how shitty those games are, or scammy micro-transactions in fully priced games or games "deluxe" BS edition that sells for way more than what the game should cost.
I bought a brand new Switch for my 8 years old kiddo and the crapcons on it started drifting 5 days after we opened it, craptendo tried making me pay $$$ to have it fixed or replaced, they wanted $$$ to fix a broken controllers, luckily my friend talked to then again and he is a lawyer, and the shitty customer support again tried scamming us by asking for $$$ to have it fixed or replaced, that was under my friend mentioned taking this problem to the court, thats when we got a free crapcons to replace the broken one.
I had a similar problem with Sony, my account got banned for a stupid reason that is a problem I had with my credit card that I used on my playstation 4, I tried to explain to them that the problem was a mistake from the credit card company side and I even had a written proof that it was an honest mistake from the bank/credit card company but noooooooope I was banned and all my games went bye bye and was told to deal with it, so I did :D my friend who is a lawyer forced Sony to refund me every penny I spent on the banned playstation account.
If those situations are not considered to be a try to scam me to pay $$$ to buy things I already bought and owned then I don't know what scam is.
Basmon nom should have sued Nintendo for the joycon crap anyway...
I buy all my games in physical version and I would do it forever
Nintendo has done well to put cartridges on the Switch and it is for several reasons
1- we insert the cartridge of a game, we play directly, no need for a download or an installation and it is thanks to the speed of reading the cartridge
2- the cartridges are much more solid than a blu-ray and they are not touched by scratches
3- for a home console and portable at the same time, the cartridges are more transportable than a blu-ray
fouad sk Not too mention load faster and have a longer shelf life.
If I had to choose between physical cartridges and digital downloads, it's the former every time, because you know that if they one day pulled the plug on digital downloads or your account/data/etc joins the choir invisible, you at least still have a hard copy to play.
CharlieHuang I would like to point out this is only true for a select few non Nintendo games, though the majority of Nintendo games don’t require it.
and you can share cartriges
@@Daniel-dj7fh yes 😊
You forgot about PS Now, which is PlayStation's game ''Netflix'', with its massive over 650+ game catalogue, while Xbox X pass only has over a 100.
Listen: the price of cartridge games for the Switch is worth every penny.
The guy should also deal with storage media.
The switch uses mask rom and no SD memory for the cardridge.
its been a blast playing zelda at airports, or resident evil at family events
-works for Nintendo
@Manok Forgot to switch accounts?
No noisy disc drive, no scratched discs, faster loading, smaller, more resale and collection value, etc. etc. etc.
i think square-enix and Nintendo had already started patching up their rocky relationship when cloud was a dlc fighter for smash 4
Actually Crystal Chronicles for gamecube. And FFDoS, 4, 5, and 6 for GBA.
we need nintendo and disney to come together and let sora be in smash
Jason Wei Han Lee hell yeah , i love kingdom hearts i think he should be in it 100000% .
SQueenix and Nintendo retsrated to partner up in the eatly 2000s the rift between Square and Nintendo only lastes 6 years, not 22 years like this video implies.
What a better occasion to put Super Mario RPG on the NSO
or maybe making it as a full remake?
Philips partnered with Nintendo on the canceled SNES-CD but Nintendo had no involvement in CD-i. I was working at a company called Cinemaware in the 80s, and we had a CD-i development workstation when the SNES was still in the demo stage and had yet to be announced. Intel had their own competitor to CD-i that was much more powerful but never made it to becoming a consumer product. It had video codec functionality that was extremely expensive at the time and was still treated as a costly add-on when CD-i and 3DO were in stores.
This Intel concept was called Digital Video Interactive or DVI. A few years later Intel recycled the name for a video connection that improved on the ubiquitous VGA.
I believe cartridges are also a lot faster. Data can be instantly seeked without needing to move a physical head to read from a certain location.
“Dragon Quest IX” came out on the Nintendo DS, so that statement about Square not publishing a tent pole series on a Nintendo console is untrue and not well-researched.
I've been hearing this a lot but they don't consider the DS & 3DS consoles since they were strictly hand held only. They were gaming systems! I don't care if the can fit in my pocket or not, they play games. They are somehow considered console if they hook up to the TV
@@punkydudester3 They released final fantasy chrystal chonricales on the Gamecube in like 2003 as an exclusive title. Hell the even developed a sequel-ish to that game as an exclusive on the wii FFCC Chrystal Bearers(which was a dope ass game). The dude making this video had no clue what he was talking about
Just one correction. It wasn't on the DS. It was on the 3DS. The DSi was already dead by the time the game came out. It was literally for the 3DS, with the extra mode that the Switch version has. Or maybe it was something else. I just remember seeing 2D in the promotional videos for the 3DS version, if only because I follow the Japanese Square Enix youtube account, to see what is coming out. It's the same reason I follow Atlus' Japanese account.
I’m still extremely butt hurt over the cancellation of the 3DS for us westerners.
suprshin true but we still got the 2DS and New 2DS XL
*Marketing Strategy Exists*
This guy: Its a scam!
Marketing do be trying everything to get your money that it does feel scammy seriously. Kinda scammy. Kinda not .
I bet those cartridges last longer than each and every game on a disc
Probably not actually. Your disc reader likely won't last as long as the carts but discs, if stored reasonably well could outlast lots of cartridges. It all depends how it's treated but chips can go bad pretty quick. On 3DS carts Pokemon Omega Ruby is apparently having a decent number of them fail. Switch carts are pretty similar so if there's a similar bad batch a bunch could die with pretty much no warning.
They need to be able to use bluetooth head sets
Agreed, like what the heck, I figured it would have Bluetooth capability
I understand having the game cost more if it’s on cartridge but when it’s digital it seems odd that it still costs as much as the physical
If anything I feel it should cost less since no cartridge is made for it.
That would also give consumers more reasons to buy digital (good for Nintendo) plus they can always just say "This is much better for the environment"
This is with every game tho not just switch I think it’s for Convenience considering like you have a kid and don’t want to go out and buy a game you can buy it at home just like if you have food delivered it cost more I feel like it’s the same thing
Back when cd's was the new game media, they told us it would allow them to sell video games cheaper than cartridges. Prices were practically the same as before, excluding some special cases and N64 games. Then when digital distribution was the new thing they told us this will let them sell games cheaper than cd games. Nope, still being sold for the same price.
@@DomenBremecXCVI
In addition to convenience, hosting the game and the bandwidth usage for you to download also costs them money. It's probably equivalent to manufacturing and shipping of the physical devices or the difference is negligible.
Whether it' true or not, apparently the story is it's to maintain retailer relationships. Stores felt threatened by digital sales and to continue stocking games, they agreed to keep the prices on par for both physical and digital.
Can't sell your digital games if no one can buy your console anywhere and mail order systems don't exactly sell huge numbers.
I just licked the cartridge out of curiosity Damn that's bitter
Lunar GR
it's so tempting to lick it, idk y. every since i heard that the cartidges taste really bitter, i have wanted to lick one
@@zayden2988 witch is why I licked one the other day, I regretted instantly
I told my friend to lick it he threw up
@Hinokho Borde no spoilers but is the the game good
If I recall correctly, they add something to the cartridges to make them bitter on purpose, hoping that it'll keep them away from people's mouths.
"It's fun, cool, family friendly"
Doom Eternal: Am I a joke to you?
I've always been one to buy physical copies even if I had to wait. The only exceptions have been DLCs and retro games that don't have a physical copy (at least for that system).
I picked up on a lot of fallacys in this video.
@Super Cool99 • 42 years ago about SquareEnix and Nintendo .... They say in the video that Square left Nintendo and never released a flagpole title until Dragon Quest XI on Switch.... Which is flatout wrong, Dragon Quest X was released on Wii.... Dragon Quest IX was released on DS..... Thats just one small example.
Also they needed cartridges for the switch because it's portable. try playing a blu-ray when you bumping around in a vehicle not pleasant
@@thorvinhammerfalls not really as the psp used optical media and it played fine it would have just been more complicated
When he say the switch was the best console of all time i knew what was coming lol
@@johnmorris7899 but, the PSP's discs were encased in little boxes which held them in place
In Canada games like the DOOM cost around $20, meanwhile the switch port for DOOM is 79.99...
Which makes the switch have the least value out of all the consoles. I cringed when he said the switch had most value
@Tekno77 - unless you want to play games made by Nintendo or want a handheld console.
If you buy a Switch for DOOM then you're doomed. If you buy a Switch for Mario Kart, Odyssey, Zelda, Smash Bros, Animal Crossing, etc then it is the console to get.. Well, at least if you're willing to pay that much or if you wait for good sales.
@@rubenjanse3065 They occasionally have good sales. I feel like that's why Bandai Namco is porting Naruto Storm 4 later this year because of their sales on Naruto Storm Trilogy.
Is it Canada a new Console? If so their games are really cheap...
07:30 "This started the Company's tradition of using less graphically intensive hardware" No... it was the Nintendo Wii that started that tradition. The N64 was more capable than the PS1 in 3D graphics, it only had less storage capacity. For handhelds they did it from the start with Gameboy though.
With handhelds, it makes sense. Weaker hardware typically drains batteries less than stronger hardware of the same point in time. Plus, who the heck buys a handheld and expects top-of-the-line graphics? There's a reason consoles are so big compared to handhelds and it's not because they think customers subscribe to a "bigger is always better" mindset.
Square Enix also released another Dragon Quest game for the DS before the switch
Dude, this video is horribly researched.
First off, the whole “port old games to new systems for full price” is far from exclusive to the Switch. They do the same thing for every remaster and port (excluding emulation) for every system. The only exceptions I can think of are the Crash and Spyro games. Sure, Switch games can be overpriced, but that particular phenomenon is not unique to the Switch. In most cases, in my experience, games released contemporaneously across platforms (including the Switch) are generally priced the same.
Second, Nintendo actually had a number of Square Enix games on their consoles post-PS1, including Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles. And that’s not including the large number of handheld games released on Nintendo systems, like Final Fantasy III, Dragon Quest IX, and Bravely Default for the DS.
Third, you actually got some things wrong with the origin of the PlayStation. Neither the deal with Sony nor the deal with Phillips involved the creation of a new console; the deal was to make a disc-based add-on for the SNES/Super Famicom. Phillips had actually already made the CDi when that deal was made. Also, the reason why Nintendo broke off the deal had to do with licensing fees being paid on every disc, which was not what Nintendo thought they were going to do. Then with the CDi games, those were a result of Nintendo breaking off the deal with Phillips, too. By breaching the contract, Phillips was allowed to use some of Nintendo’s IP in their own games. Had the original deal with Phillips been fulfilled completely, those games would not have existed.
And physical copies aren’t “analog”.
For the record, I’m not defending Nintendo, at least not entirely. Their digital storefront policies are horribly anticonsumer, for one. However, I feel like, for a video about the Switch released _three years_ after launch largely about stuff already widely known, you really shouldn’t be making these kinds of mistakes.
Ok boomer
@@tropicalmafia495 @bhull242 is absolutely right. There are so many inaccuracies in this video. I'm glad someone other than myself picked them up!
Thanks for giving a well thought out response instead of saying "lol lies" and blatantly defending Nintendo. Yours was the first comment to make me think "Oh, so that's why people are disliking this."
@Tropical Mafia
I’m not even 30 and grew up on the N64 and GCN.
Jack Odonnell Not to mention it’s a video about the Nintendo Switch, or it’s supposed to be, but he talks about every other console for some unknown reason.
When it comes to shady business tactics I feel Nintendo does a lot less than Sony and Microsoft. I have always liked cartridges over discs, can’t tell you how many disc games have been ruined by a tiny scratch. My original copy of Ocarina of Time is beat all to hell and still works.
Blu rays are actually insanely durable.
cat luva unless u have younger siblings
boomer150 maybe you should take better care of your products
Fire 234ghj disc scratching is still very much a big issue... it’s a disc and therefore can be scratched. I bet you also believe that the newer iPhones are waterproof
When I first got my Xbox One to play Master Chief Collection back when it first came out I could only find a copy in Redbox, took it home an hour later 42% installed and disc crapped out. Never had a cartridge fail me.
Your voice was really appealing to me, and thats the reason why I subscribed to this channel!
Regardless of the platform, I think the digital version of a video game should be cheaper than the physical counterpart.
The sad truth is... this video is entirely inaccurate.
The remark about the N64 being the start of Nintendo designing consoles to be less graphically intense was definitely wrong. That did not start until the GameCube did poorly.
The remarks about artificial scarcity is also wrong. The manufacturing process does not ramp up so quickly. Demand had outstripped their expectations and had they aimed higher just in case and been wrong, they would have ended up with a large amount of inventory that would be hard to sell, cutting profitability. Presumably, that is what happened with the Wii U.
The sad truth is... your comment is entirely inaccurate
You mean how Sony pull out from the Nintendo PlayStation after learning that Nintendo will have full control over everything not the other way around.
Night-X Actually, Nintendo pulled out because the contract was horrible
LelandHasGames Exactly!
Watching this while wrapping up the switch I bought for my son's birthday and planning to buy either digital or cartridge copy of ZELDA...I thought I was watching the history of the world LOL!
The typical price of $60 isn't because of the cartridges when you put in the fact that even games on discs cost more than $60, like God of War: Ragnarök on the PS5.
Made sense until the "forced scarcity".
Nah, people were really buying wii consoles so fast stores couldnt keep them in stock, and stores have to wait on Nintendo to make more.
As with gane launches like BOTW...really? People wont buy it digital because most parents I onow dont want to put their credit card in any console
and let their kid use it. So now little Jimmy's parents are wondering why there credit card is in the negative digits. That and digital games aren't refundable.
I remember back in the 360 I wasn't allowed to buy digital games because you can't resell them once you're over them
Technically, Switch card capacity could exceed that of a Blu-Ray Disc. Given that it really is just a modified SD card, they could be manufactured in Terabyte capacities.
Good point.
Yes, for sure but they'd be very expensive at that point.
Uh yeah. Have you seen how much micro SD cards cost?
@@ThyCorruptor very expensive at 1TB sure, right now. But that's mostly because we just got there, and nobody is really buying them in bulk.
Full size SD cards that grossly exceeded the capacity of a Blu-ray disc are cheap enough to be disposable, and unlike optical discs they don't wear out from being read.
They are NOT flash memory though. They are ROMs. They're burned at the factory (and yes, that complicates logistics between a game going gold and launch a lot). Same tech Nintendo has been using in all their non-disc consoles. The problem here is that there is absolutely no demand outside Nintendo for ROMs larger than 4GB (everyone's using flash for that) and they have a single company making the larger ones.
"One of the most affordable game systems in the market"
: cries in brazilian :'(
Sim man, aqui é td caro 😭
Thanks for this video 👍🏻👌🏻✌🏻
Gamestop isn't doing so well due to shady practices. I just get mine at privately-owned used game stores and Walmart.
legojedi626 and ripz you off
I can get my Switch games at Wal-Mart for $50.
To much they have to lower the prices such a rip off
As if 50 makes much of a difference vs 60.
@@rubenjanse3065 It does. You could affort up to 6 games instead of 5 by paying the same amount of money. If you are a more hardcore gamer than I, a 21 Italian guy who shamefully only buys between 1 and 3 games a year, am, you likely notice.
@@nyxmiloq4167 I mostly buy from Cdkeys, or Steam sales. And for Nintendo Switch I only buy 60$ games when they are on sale for 40 or below. I refuse to pay more even tho I could.
that new mana game that came out was about 20$ more on switch than the cheapest i found on PC. switch did have a deal where you could get the other mana series games a bit cheaper.
Thanks for the video!
If the switch had an optical drive, it would be the size of a brick. You guys forgot about PSP and the UMD.
But umd has really low storage (1.8 gig) compared to dvd (4.7 but up to 9 gb)
There's an advantage to not having any moving parts.
@@christian6911 Longer battery life is one, plus the Switch cards can theoretically have larger capacities than blu-ray discs.
Looking for a summary of the video? Come over and take a seat, you've come to the right place.
-Some physical games are more expensive because the costs of each cartridge are higher than a blue ray disk until/unless more copies are produced(imagine carrying around a system with a disc reader that *Won't* scratch the disc and have all the features of the switch.. Sounds fun right?)
-Like everyone else, they push digital copies(because.. You know.. It's infinitely cheaper for them).
-They use artificial scarcity to drive up the interest in their products.(I'll concede this one, but the way he presented was only backed up by one's prior knowledge of seeing them do this.. So, someone who already owns a switch.)
The rest is filler. You're welcome for that 10 minutes of your life you just saved.
Thanks!
Artificial scarcity sounds made up for some reason. If I only have lemons and I can't afford strawberries, I'm not offering strawberry lemonade. But if I have a lot of ingredients and many employees to do things for me I have to invest a lot of money into my people and their wellbeing, which means I need to ask of more money from the average customer that comes into my shop. Like a Pokemon, I need to nurture it as well so it gets stronger, but that means every now and then I have to take a trainer's money after winning a battle.
Ευχαριστώ πολύ 👍
Thank you
I'm glad so many found this helpful! I would like to add an 'update' to what I said. With how many cartriges have been produced at this point, they are no longer more expensive significantly enough to justify a higher price! Some companies are still charging $10 more and using it as an excuse, they aren't being truthful! That's why so many others don't feel the need to make the same excuse.
Unfortunate that the scarcity problem seems to have gotten worse, and spread to more of the industry. Hard to say if it's because of production issues caused by the pandemic or others also using scarcity as an incentive, but Nintendo had promised to fix it 6 months ago, and they seem a rather reliable company as far as promises go when they can be. Shame there are so many scalpers.
Hope you all have been fairing alright, and the coming year sees things getting better.
I hate it when people say you 'have to' pay to play Stadia. You don't. The subscription is optional but is useful because you get free games (only on some of them) sales on most games and you get 5.1 surround sound and 4k. TLDR: you don't need to pay to play Stadia, you just get free games and better stuff but can still play all of the games (unfortunately not destiny 2 I don't think)
looks like everyone buy nintendo switch
Yeah.
i may buy, but next model that's maybe lite or wait for a new one
@@DrPP-zy8cd buy nintendo switch version 2 its gray don't buy old switch
@@emirgul7452 i may actually buy lite cuz i have xbox already and a pc
@@emirgul7452 actually you can tell if it's new by box not by switch color
Another factor is the Switch's hybrid nature. With a cartridge you're less likely to encounter read errors due to the console being bumped vs optical media. Especially when factoring in Switch games that use gyro controls in handheld mode.
In modern consoles most games install off the disk and only use the disk to verify you own the game after installation.
You can literally take the disc out of an Xbox while its running an installed game and it runs fine.
No modern consoles actually read off a disc looool
What game was that where mario was running at approx 1:00?
I just want to know how CD Project Red can fit the entirety of the complete edition of The Witcher 3 onto one cartridge, yet Capcom can't fit three last gen Resident Evil games on a cart?
When the choice is available, I always buy the physical version of the game. And when you have a backlog of 1000s of games that you want to play, there is no rush to play the newest releases. The benefit to this is getting everything cheaper.
The cartridges actually still are a mystery how much they actually hold because remember SD Cards can hold 2 Terabytes of data so in theory they can hold the same amount.
But putting more storage on cartridges makes them more expensive to produce, so they avoid exceeding 32GB even though higher storage capacity is possible.
Nintendo should have worked it out beforehand... That makes them shady... MK11 came on an 8gb cartridge so you basically hace to download the whole thing anyway due to Nintendo being cheap...
No, it's not a mystery, it's a matter of knowing how long addresses that can be used. SD-cards support 2GB of addressable space because of the limits in how long the address can be, SDHC support up to 32GB and SDXC supports up to 2TB. The cartridges for the Switch are based on the SDXC-standard, so 2TB is the limit.
Well it's Nintendo we're talking about, so probably a third of that
@@theandnewman Yeah I figured this much out as well. Seeing as we have 2 or more games that go over the supposed 32 gig limit. Even heavily compressing the relatively new Doom game it still goes at about 40 Gigs. Edit: got a text while replying so it sent with the text lol. But my main point is the guy in the video saying theres a 32 gig limit is just being a bold faced lie or he genuinely doesnt know what hes talking about but acts like he knows.
I recently picked up my 3DS XL again and started trying to find games and play stuff on it and notice that most the games that are 5 plus years old are still full price on the eShop and it's just crazy but it's that way because it's hard to find the actual cartridges anywhere.
I always thought in the long run having a digital only console would essentially allow Nintendo, playstation, and Xbox to have a monopoly. Take for example the regular price for mortal Kombat 11 is $50 on both PlayStation and Nintendo I picked it up for the PS4 for $20 and the switch for about $25. Plus towards the end of the console's lifespan used games will get really cheap for it so in the long run it's not cheaper to buy a digital only console.
We don’t talk about stadia...
That is a whole other topic to talk about
I wouldn't even know Stadia still existed if i had a youtube adblocker running.
I'll fix your title, It's "The sad truth about the clickbaity channel, TheGamer"
I um... Where did you get your information the CDI was going to be an addon for the SNES not make the CDI system (which was already out there)
I noticed currently that walmart will sell a switch game for 49.99 that target charges 59.99 for. I'm not sure if it's always been like that as I only recently got a switch oled
Lately, the downloads (and their redemption cards) have been $10 more than the cartridge you get at the store. The only reason I still do the downloads is because I don’t want to lose those tiny cartridges.
When you remarked about digital copies being a reason for Gamestop's decline I immediately thought about all the shady dealings that Gamestop has gotten in trouble for over the years, including selling bootleg versions of games (sometimes proving that these bootlegs were made by the different locations themselves) and numerous cases of fraud. I mean sure, all the shady activities that they have gotten in leagal trouble for may have nothing to do with it, but I am guessing that it does just because of common sense.
Even digital copies have problems, remember the G2A scandal?
@@alandunaway3000 yes, but I would not source them as the cause of Gamestop's decline as they are just a bad company that is constantly finding new illegal ways to earn money
Gamestop are scum! They will cheat you at checkout, not honoring lower prices unless you bring it up. They try to scam me every single time with a couple of dollars. Last time they tried to sell me an open game as new by applying a circular seal on it saying, now it is new until you remove this sticker. Unbeliveable!
I want to know if I played Botw but lost my game and put a new botw in my switch will I still have my data in other words is the save data saved on the console or cartridge
It's saved on the Switch itself, meaning if you get a whole new cartridge, you'll pick up right where you left off
@@maximumwolfe9462 thank you so much
So guys which is better buying cartridges or buying on e shop ? i want to know which one stands long
I own more Ps4 games than Switch partially due to having a Ps4 longer but yeah Switch games tend to be expensive.
Exactly any older or graphics intensive games will be brought on my PS4 getting a lite for indies and I like handheld gaming.
mrHowlll well at least the games are cheaper on cartridges then the Eshop since it’s more expensive also buying cartridges doesn’t take up much storage but if you buy a digital copy it takes more storage making you buying more and cards quicker
Yeah I think I get what you're saying. Large games like rpgs are best bought physical.
@Watchdogskid The Beast me too lol
I know, I got legend of Zelda and it was 60 dollars (I actually see why lol)
WHAT IS BETTER THAN DARK BACKSTORIES? DARK GAMING BACKSTORIES
The Switch is the only one that I will make sure to get a cart whenever I can. I mostly have the system for on the go gaming, so having it check the internet every time I start a game does not work for me.
Can someone clarify something for me?
If you own a physical game for the Switch and there is a update for that game, where does that happen?
I mean, the update is applied to the cartridge meaning that the game files inside the cartridge get edited?
It's not actually applied to the carriage.it's applied to the save data.
@@starandfox601 oh I see, do you by any chance know if those updates are big like 20~30 GB for example?
I'm just asking because I'm eyeballing the Switch Lite but also I'm on a budget so I want to know if I need a SD card right away for physical games.
Thanks!
The Gamer: there are no problems with the switch, except for the graphical limitations
Me: Joy Con drift?
Agreed
I've heard over and over again about how the graphics aren't perfect but they're still fun and don't take from the experience.
I hate that it ruins odyssey and MM2.
WD40 is the key :)
"The Nintendo Switch is the Best Console in the History of Media"
PLaystation And Xbox Gamers: TRIGGERED
The title of best console would go to either the PS2 or the SNES.
whoops...
I mean, it’s MY personal favorite. And I’ve owned most of the big ones since the late 80s.
I go with both Physical and Digital purchases of the games for the Switch. But sometimes you get the unexpected with the former. I once went to a Pawn Brokers and purchased a copy of Assassin's Creed: The Rebel Collection for $20AU. The clerks checked the case to see if the game was in there, and it was, loose, with a copy of Skyrim also inside. And they still let me have that extra for no extra charge!
GameStop isn’t doing well because of their insistence on price gouging on used games. $5 savings on a 6 month old game vs brand new is incredibly greedy
They didn’t fill Wii or Switch demand because the consoles were expensive to make and they weren’t projected to do as well as they did.
They make money on software sales.
I just want the memory of the game progress to be on the cartrige like the DS.
thats ok, but if you had to share a game cartridge with a sibling, it helps for the system to store the save data
@@legmaballshityourchin Plus if it was like a DS card, they would have to put an extra chip inside the cartrige which would take up more room inside the cartrige.
I was also kinda disappointed that your save data didn’t save on the cartridge for Switch games.
I agree, one thing about it being on the cart is that it would need 2 chips, making the carts slightly bigger and more expensive and also you would be limited on save slots, so Fire Emblem 3 Houses has 25 Save Slots but Fire Emblem awakening on the 3DS has only 3 save slots. So that's also a factor. I wish Nintendo would let me back my saves to my computer like Sony did for the PSP and Vita.