Should You Skip 1.0 Rate-Up Characters For The 1.1 Lineup? ┃ Wuthering Waves

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  • @razor_ct
    @razor_ct  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    UPDATE: We are getting Jinhsi and Changli in 1.1 instead
    Disclaimer: Pull for who you like xdd

    • @cwevan6433
      @cwevan6433 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So maybe 1.2 for Camellya?

    • @ShiroKage-h8v
      @ShiroKage-h8v 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      how bout both

  • @Shuraig7
    @Shuraig7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +175

    Ok got it, will pull my first limited character in 2030 😂

    • @harfi212
      @harfi212 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      I got a better suggestion, skip this game 😂

    • @nchtblut
      @nchtblut 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I have a better idea skip any gacha game

    • @tesla3188
      @tesla3188 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@nchtblut I have a better idea play tetris

    • @willSolos
      @willSolos 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@harfi212don't cry

    • @k-BlazeWW30
      @k-BlazeWW30 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      you should overdramatic
      The 1.1v will come very soon kuro is fast on Patching 😂

  • @milmil5350
    @milmil5350 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +112

    ⚠️ Do NOT skip characters. ⚠️
    EVERY character will powercreep the next. That's the default standard in gacha games. It's to incentivize you to pull.
    This isn't a PvP so powercreep isn't something you have to take personally when it happens.
    The only way powercreep will bother you is if you let random people dictate to you who you should and shouldn't pull for.
    Every character is capable of clearing all content. You should build your account based on what characters you genuinely like and want to have fun playing with.
    There is no must-pull. There never will be a must-pull.
    You're free to ignore this advice. But don't ever say you weren't warned -- especially since this is a skill-based action game like Street Fighter or Dark Souls. 🤷‍♂️

    • @sosukeaizen4494
      @sosukeaizen4494 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      This is the worse advice u can give to F2P. if you are free to play you need to skip some characters. Gache resources for f2p are limites. Add in that u might be a below average gamer in terms of skill to clear content which would result in less currency...yeah deff skip characters that dont fit what u need and save up.

    • @DenjiDugong
      @DenjiDugong 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      "There is no must pull" you say that but eventually there will be a character in the future that can one shot every boss, it always happen in gacha games no matter if they're souls like or skill based.
      For example, even a strategy game like Arknights suffer from the same fate, why bother making a strategy, using each stages gimmick or trying different team comp when Surtr, Mlynar, Texalter, and in the future W alter can just destroy all of them

    • @Miniiniscool
      @Miniiniscool 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sosukeaizen4494just get good, the gameplay is the best part of this game

    • @samarthgautam
      @samarthgautam 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@sosukeaizen4494 it's a singleplayer game, you don't NEED to get meta characters even if you're F2P. Just get good.
      I've been a F2P for my whole time playing combat gacha games and I have never had any problem with pulling my favourite characters and using them even if they're shit

    • @sosukeaizen4494
      @sosukeaizen4494 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Miniiniscool "just get good" its almost like you watch tik toks all day lol. find a bridge and let your trauma do the rest. saying a broad point like just get good is simply an empty response.

  • @igneo8005
    @igneo8005 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    I dont care about meta, if this game is about skill, im going to pull for the coolest character.

    • @highswagaming
      @highswagaming 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      On god

    • @harfi212
      @harfi212 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Keep coping, the powercreep gonna come soon in this game. Also, there is a timer in the endgame mode. Yes its gonna be dps check.

    • @blueberry7478
      @blueberry7478 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      WuWa gives you much freedom, why focus on meta? Free your mind and choose the one you truly love.

    • @blueberry7478
      @blueberry7478 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@harfi212 And? Is it a big issue? PGR is still doing well with that.

    • @stevennlinn
      @stevennlinn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      are you sure dont care about meta...

  • @blazeman2419
    @blazeman2419 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    So... If I never pull, I can pull for the absolute best character when the game dies?

    • @00xphos
      @00xphos 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He literally said u can pull for whoever u want in the beginning, he's talking in terms of getting early guaranted meta

    • @blazeman2419
      @blazeman2419 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@00xphos buy a sarcasm deterctor please.

    • @00xphos
      @00xphos 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@blazeman2419 "buy a sarcasm detector please" 🤡
      How can anyone know ur being sarcastic? Make it obvious

    • @milmil5350
      @milmil5350 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yup. Powercreep. The longer you never pull, the better the rate-up character will be. Good thing this is a skill-based PvE game so we don't have to care. 😂

    • @SeekGrace
      @SeekGrace 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      All you need is a Denjin and skill.

  • @sasorioftheredsand4348
    @sasorioftheredsand4348 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I won’t follow meta in this game, you can clear content with 4 stars characters

    • @rin9005
      @rin9005 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Cc's point was pull for the character who's gonna be relevant for a longer time.

    • @milmil5350
      @milmil5350 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​​​​​​@@rin9005that's stupid and here's why. ⚠️ Wuthering Waves is a skill-based game. This isn't HSR. This is Street Fighter and Smash Bros. (if it were PvE & every character had a fair chance at winning). This is Dark Souls where every class can beat the game so it doesn't matter if mage is easier than the others.
      Unless you really don’t know how to play video games, are unwilling to learn, or are lazy and don't want an actual game to play, you should NOT be thinking of meta-chasing in this game.
      Other games, it makes sense to meta-chase. Wuthering Waves is NOT one of them.
      CCs need content, so they're gonna make the tier lists and do whatever (just like they do with every game), but you have to THINK. 🧠
      1) This is a solo game. You're not competing with anyone.
      2) It's a skill-based game like Street Fighter and Dark Souls - you have to actually learn the moveset of your characters and study the bosses' patterns.
      3) Every single character is capable of clearing every content in the game.
      That is the situation.
      Because that is the situation, *chasing meta becomes redundant.*
      Each time you pull and you can't afford the next banner or 2, then, oh well, you've been powercrept.
      So what exactly was the point in pulling for characters you didn't even like? Now the character is weaker than the next batch of characters they release.
      You know how things work already & this game discourages meta-chasing, but you're still gonna let random people dictate who to pull for and who to skip?
      Meanwhile if you just pulled the characters you actually liked, learned their moveset, got good, and invested in them, then powercreep wouldn't matter.
      You'd be a master at playing your favorite character. And that's the point of WuWa. Collect your favorite characters and get good at using them -- that's how Wuthering Waves is intended to be played.
      Unless you're really THAT bad at action games, don't skip characters you like. And don't chase meta.

    • @harfi212
      @harfi212 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​@milmil5350 did you really compering this gacha trash to dark soul ?
      The delulu is crazy 🤣

    • @Zoltan545
      @Zoltan545 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      keep yapping

    • @rin9005
      @rin9005 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@milmil5350 I get your point and I do agree with them but even in games like figthing games/platform fighting games like ssb, tekken, sf, bh there are still characters that are statistically better compared to others. For souls like games there are certain builds that are easier to play with and sometimes even allow you to cheese content. a lot of people would be playing this simply for the gacha aspect and for those people and people with relatively low skill level pulling for statistically stronger characters with higher damage floors or even ceilings will be of benefit to them.

  • @roxasreturns2183
    @roxasreturns2183 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    I'm pulling Jiyan the same way I pull any limited character. I like, I pull. Keep it simple.

  • @NerdEmoji1067
    @NerdEmoji1067 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Camellya seriously looks straight out of PGr

  • @haarpiaa
    @haarpiaa 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    like with maleknights.................. i have to take who i can get! jiyan got my attention over a year ago so nothing is going to convince me not to pull for him anyways. it is good for people who care or are curious to see what options they have, especially if people aren't aware of how creep of early game characters work.

  • @jikookietings2507
    @jikookietings2507 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    You need three teams of 2-3 characters. That means 3 DPS and 3-6 Supports. I think the smart thing to do would be pick whatever 3 DPS you like best, and pull the supports for them that will progress with the meta. With time, if you want to add another DPS you really like, pull for that unit.

    • @josephoyek6574
      @josephoyek6574 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why do we need 3 teams?

    • @jikookietings2507
      @jikookietings2507 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@josephoyek6574 End game content will require 3 teams.

  • @dylandupere7338
    @dylandupere7338 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Day #68 of Wishing for Yilin

  • @lachucholayil
    @lachucholayil 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got Jiyan in 5 silly single pulls I did so there's nothing for me to regret there even if he gets power creeped. And Jiyan is so much fun in overworld especially since there are plenty of enemies that needs grouping, in domains too. And with Danjin, Havoc MC, Calculus...my dps needs are all met for now. I'll be saving up until they release a limited support that can replace Verina (she's being overworked in all my teams)

  • @franckkamonou7519
    @franckkamonou7519 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Basically, if you have skill pull, whoever you want easy.

  • @ST4RC4SM
    @ST4RC4SM 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    short answer: no. pull whoever the hell you want, this is a skill based game, if you cant play using 'non-meta' characters, you still won't be good using the 'meta' ones.

  • @Nosiop09
    @Nosiop09 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Idk i love jiyan hes my type fr fr but idk

  • @fordlyemerald-ke3iz
    @fordlyemerald-ke3iz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's actually better to pull for the weapon of you aren't going to pull for the character, as the weapons will bring more value to you're account if you're skipping a character. And use that weapon to the character you want, if it compliments them well. I'm not saying this should be done on a whim. But it is a viable option.

  • @Carlotta_4041
    @Carlotta_4041 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Not meta for this game from me. I'll just do a female only Account

    • @Anees-
      @Anees- 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Male only for me

    • @Gheniel_
      @Gheniel_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Both based

    • @HiMyNameIsAkmal
      @HiMyNameIsAkmal 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Waifu over meta 👍

    • @maxxxymooo
      @maxxxymooo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why lmao

    • @lestercruz4073
      @lestercruz4073 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not even just female only. I'll be doing a waifu only acct. I got Verina, but she's gonna even gonna see the light of day in my acct. Lol

  • @frishter
    @frishter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'll probably pull him. The dragon attack is cool and pulling banner characters should give an early account boost. Also I imagine gacha weapons will also be better than anything you get early on if you happen to get some from the character banner. With genshin I tended to pull more early on to unlock stuff and then save more later on for what it more meta, so I'll probably repeat here.

  • @aitamasanada72
    @aitamasanada72 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jianxi, yanyang and jiyan has crowd control! they are littery the only character we have currently u want to have this character to clear tower adversity fast..
    well technically any characters can beat the tower but having these characters just great for the tower.

  • @androtaz2621
    @androtaz2621 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Considering you'll need 3 teams for ToA I really don't see the point on sitting on wishes. Especially considering how much of the early game experience is shaped by how much you like the character you're playing.

  • @ffxfgxsfxxxg2419
    @ffxfgxsfxxxg2419 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am planning to get Jinhsi and came to WuWa for her. Jiyan can get a rerun I want to save for Jinhsi now and do 1 ten pull early to have more resources early on aside from 5 stars

  • @blutix1154
    @blutix1154 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Support can be remplaced but i think yinlin is worth it because can buff and do big damage

  • @MisoMow
    @MisoMow 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll probably spare a few pulls for yilin but I am not pulling for jiyan. She seems like she will age much better, and she looks great. I'll probably focus on subdps and supports and wait on main dps for a little while.

  • @pianocaster
    @pianocaster 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When will Changli and Jinhsi drop?

  • @Red_Throat_Bird
    @Red_Throat_Bird 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The banner systeme is not like in PGR where you are a unique banner at first release (100% rate up) that will never comeback even on the futur rerun banner (70% rate up).
    Its like Genshin, a skip is not so dramatic because the rerun banner is exactly the same, so at worst if the character is meta or so cool but you havent pull just pull on rerun later.
    Meta are setup in 6 months average in gacha game so don't pressurise you to mush and this same meta will be powercrept around 1 year at max.

  • @vidzorko4492
    @vidzorko4492 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why are we acting like 4stars dont exist on banners? jiyan has literally the best 2 4 stars on his banner, while Yinlin has three of the WORST. idk why people never bring that up. evaluate the whole banner please

  • @Jullieett9
    @Jullieett9 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How many times you can repeat same damn thing?

  • @Mac19487
    @Mac19487 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    no just wait for 2.1 characters

  • @Ok-nz7gy
    @Ok-nz7gy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im not pulling for jiyan cos im afraid i wont be able to hit pity for yinlin if i use all my pulls on him.

  • @alc6398
    @alc6398 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nahh just pull any DPS and pull broken supports. With great value supports, you can make your DPS no matter how powercrept they are into a good DPS so pull for at least 3 DPS u like and then save for supports that will carry u throughout the game.
    If u get Verina in standard and then get Jiyan who is a dps in limited banner, u don’t need to worry about powercreep because Verina will be there to help your DPS.
    Also even if we decide to pull for DPS later, they will still also be subjected to future powercreep so that will be pointless.

  • @123FireSnake
    @123FireSnake 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Got it, 30'ish pulls on jiyan if something comes early that's nice if I hit a danjin that's awesome

  • @theLanceInPants
    @theLanceInPants 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im gonna reroll and either build around what i get or save a couple months if/when a robot/waifu comes along to get high constellation and a weapon. Too many games i just get 1 copy of a bunch of different archtype units vs just having 1 gigchad/chan unit to brute force everything

  • @beatstiqs
    @beatstiqs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    pull who you like,skip those you don't, and if you like meta,pull meta. its that simple.

  • @Legendaryboy7t
    @Legendaryboy7t 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meanwhile me who got jiyan on my first day of wuw with the free 20 pulls from the mail 💀

  • @ZealoidPrelate
    @ZealoidPrelate 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So if mean history of PGR from 2022 modern healers do dps more than first pure dps 😅

  • @Saphie688
    @Saphie688 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i would say klee and seela is a bad comparison klees numbers are fine the issue is shes clunky and very unfun to play for most her dps is still quite good with the right teams especially with furina
    and Seela have fallen off but shes still very viable and mono quantum is not a weak team it can still comfortablely clear a lot of MOC effortlessly jingyuan would be a better exsample since he fell off instantly and to make him clear u really gotta mid max
    and in honkai star rail 1.1
    luocha is kinda useless these days and silver wolf fell massively off and is worse then pela in most senarios besides specefic teams and boss killing senarios which is just like seela she works great in 1 team and if the situation favors her shes really good

  • @PtaQman
    @PtaQman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Guys, why not wait for the 1.2 characters! Right? RIGHT?!

  • @Blueberry-wn5fc
    @Blueberry-wn5fc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    saying that Seele from HSR is bad is DIABOLICAL

  • @JeanneDArc_1
    @JeanneDArc_1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll use sanhua for now and keep my pulls for op characters with signature weapons

  • @khulmach9662
    @khulmach9662 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She is a sword user!
    Is every GOAT! character a sword user?

  • @AliceAngel66698
    @AliceAngel66698 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Her name is CameLLia I am tired of losers who think it should be Camilia or Camille because Camellia is the original way of that name to be called all the others are reputation in other cultures

  • @user-om5ue4id7q
    @user-om5ue4id7q 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To be honest, I think I'm gonna save up my pulls since dark rover is cool enough for me

    • @Zoltan545
      @Zoltan545 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      my move

  • @theLanceInPants
    @theLanceInPants 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Was definitely feeling the pressure to do initial pulls, but youre absolutely right. Kind of regret pulling jing yuan, tho hes been carrying me through current content.
    Ill prob save to pull multiple copies of something spicy that i can just brute force everything, then havemore variation for the other side of the end game content

  • @SeekGrace
    @SeekGrace 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude = skip :>
    Only dude on my account gonna be Rover.
    PS: I never regret pulling Seele on HSR. Deadass one of the most powerful on-release limited tbh. Didn't drop from meta until at least Jingliu patch.

  • @forbetterlife8409
    @forbetterlife8409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you from italy?

    • @razor_ct
      @razor_ct  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm from Slovenia

  • @Rennmi
    @Rennmi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:29 Don’t throw strays at seele she still goated 😦🫵

  • @ymuirr
    @ymuirr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Having played PGR its always pull the waifus and ignore the husbandos, they lean hard on then.

    • @milmil5350
      @milmil5350 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm a PGR player too and what matters most is investing deep into a character. The more dupes, pets, weapons you can get, the farther your account will go.
      Investing into a character and learning their playstyle outclasses owning a single copy of every character (no weapon, no pet).

    • @joshchen5835
      @joshchen5835 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But it's more fun to have a lot of character ​@@milmil5350

  • @Whatislike...
    @Whatislike... 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    if kuro games also make the time of echoes when transform longer like 30-40s Im going to pull in echoes banner 😂😂😂

  • @surprisednt
    @surprisednt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The 1.0 units are FIRE , we cant skip them. That wont satisfy anyone , im sorry.

  • @rjlhee3781
    @rjlhee3781 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wait for 1.6 or 2.1 characters. In those patches , Hoyo releases meta characters. Kuro might follow that pattern.

    • @NerdEmoji1067
      @NerdEmoji1067 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Kuro is a completely different company tho. I think it’s kinda dumb to think it might happen because hoyo did it.

    • @rjlhee3781
      @rjlhee3781 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NerdEmoji1067 you are the dumb one to think there is 0% possibility of that happening.

    • @darkcastle85
      @darkcastle85 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why would it matter though? not everyone is going to play for meta

    • @arkcanon1282
      @arkcanon1282 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kuro have their pattern
      It's either CNY, Half Anniv or Anniv. Why do they need to follow HYv's strategy to release characters if they can use their own?

    • @clumzy7777
      @clumzy7777 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Jiyan is META in 1.0. And 2.0 characters will be powercreeped in future patches too. There r no META forever characters in a gacha game...

  • @isidrorodriguez.5259
    @isidrorodriguez.5259 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Looking 👁️👃👁️
    . 👄

  • @nerri4779
    @nerri4779 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please always make/do this kind of video

  • @cyberjeeb
    @cyberjeeb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think he looks cool so i pull

  • @pedrorodrigo9560
    @pedrorodrigo9560 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I realy like Jiyan so Idc if he get powercrept

  • @Whatislike...
    @Whatislike... 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im not here for meta dps & sups. Im here for calcharo 😂😂 Im here for 1 combo kill

  • @alicg7829
    @alicg7829 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I need an automatic mode to farm, but in WuWa and Genshin.
    It feels painful when u want to play multiple games and u dont have enough time for all of them T-T.

  • @RealABGamer
    @RealABGamer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I only pull for bobas

  • @tinkerbell140
    @tinkerbell140 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i will pull for my husband!

  • @ImbibitorLunae-b5h
    @ImbibitorLunae-b5h 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    100% skip first and/or second banners. Besides, the starting 5* characters are meh.

  • @blueberry7478
    @blueberry7478 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro why are trying to stop people to enjoy this character? A lot of people loves him already.

  • @erfk962
    @erfk962 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro someone might make them Broken

  • @joehanz9217
    @joehanz9217 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll pull character that i like, the rest is git gud😅

  • @andreesprz1316
    @andreesprz1316 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wish emilya was glacio

  • @ShadO7359
    @ShadO7359 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still think Yinlin is better than Camellya bc Yinlin also has off field DPS too

  • @nobueano
    @nobueano 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    U can't compare WuWa to any other gacha, and simple reason why, it has one thing that other gachas lack, and it's SKILL. I know PGR, there are characters that power creep the before ones, but that doesn't stop me from playing them, cause IT'S SKILL BASED

  • @nothikikai
    @nothikikai 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I lost 50/50 anyways

  • @annanas9122
    @annanas9122 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't really care about meta, I just want Jiyan.

  • @arturius9715
    @arturius9715 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jiyan is way too cool to skip

  • @Zeff0
    @Zeff0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sephiroth is forever

  • @lord_walrus8611
    @lord_walrus8611 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i'm skipping no one, legit just don't be poor losers