@@rustydusty2992 maybe he/she haven't nothing wrong when being off duty. Maybe that person have some problems in his/her private life, maybe during that rest period have had a pain or something, do you get this?
As a lorry driver myself working nights this is very easily done, you see it all the time, drivers swerving out of lane.1 moment you can feel fine a few mins later tired as hell. I slways pull over at nearest services for a coffee red bull and snack. £15 sometimes but i always say whats 15 quid in comparison to stuffing your vehicle and killing someone.
but in the UK sometimes there is like 30 mile between two service station, thats more than half hour struggling with keeping yourself awake (if you are not already sleeping). I mean I do the same, get some Monster or something like that but when there is nothing for a while its just a torture
@@johnnyhun1 I know m8 iv punched myself in the face just to stay alert a few times, slapped myself, both windows full open radio full blast, tryed almost everything you can think of even pulled over on hard shoulder, engine off hazards on and said fuck it, I'm not moving this vehicle another inch until im right, had to be rescued 1 time. Torture is an understatement.
@@noke258 You did the responsible, right thing. Even getting a fine for being in the hard shoulder isn't anywhere close to causing a potentially fatal accident. Something as dangerous as being tired shouldn't get into trouble for that either. I wish there were more drivers like this on the roads.
I usually park in the layby or hard shoulder for 5 minutes to wash my face with drink water when I can't resist anymore. That will help me to drive a bit longer until I find services
Why did it take the cammer to wait til the truck hit something before he braked? I mean it was obvious the moment the truck started merging leftwards that you'd be well-advised to slow down. Strange and there was nobody in front either so he could have easily overtaken and slotted back in, it's safer to get your overtakes DONE and then return to your cruise control speed, rather than sit aware less at a constant speed no matter if you are gaining on other road users at a slow rate. Being alongside other vehicles drastically increases your risk. So get your moves DONE or HOLD BACK don't do what this driver does and react to nothing whilst minutely approaching other traffic. If he was further alongside this truck he wouldn't have been as able to avoid this crash.
@@formhubfar You should never assume that a mis-communication is automatically going to be safe, you should interpret any possible miscommunication as either an act of malice, or a medical situation. Never, ever assume the least severe scenario
You get off the throttle if you see an hgv wondering about the road in front of you, this is text book “I’m doing nothing illegal so I’m safe” mentality, an attitude that I have no doubt is one of the major causes of and/or amplifier of road accidents. You said it perfectly, always work to not be alongside other vehicles when possible, I break the speed limit often so I can be isolated from human error of other drivers, my accident history doesn’t exist because I don’t blindly obey laws that can’t possibly account for all scenarios.
Absolutely agree with you. I bet, like me, you've never had a crash in your life. Because an attitude of mitigation will always serve you right@@gamerdrive5565 Wish you all the best and hope we can maintain our clean sheet! I'd love to share the road with more drivers like you my friend!
do you really think from this distance a car horn would be heard from the cab?! You must be a dumbdumb bro :D Even I can baerly hear an other truck's horn behind me, the cabs are usually sealed from stock but there are double layered windows as an extra that gives extra sealing. And the other thing is even if you make somehime the driver to wake up he will fall asleep after again. Sleepiness while driving is like depression, it comes out of nowhere sometimes without any reason, and you can't make it go away
Wife used to work for the Highways Agency and 1 month there was 30 nightdrivers killed apparently falling off to sleep while truck was in cruise control. It's never mentioned in the newspapers because they don't want to put drivers off night work for fear employers will have to pay proper wages.
@@TheArsenalrule2001uk All the best Man. Hazard videos scare life out of me a bit. On website they different videos than on app with is understandable yet some of them you need crystal ball instead of satnav and two sets of eyes plus sixth sense to get close to 4 points. I do understand need of those clips but still sometimes is hard.
@@AntoniOrszykowski same! Been practising on Dvsa app as it has hazard videos but the timing is strange. I click the second I see that a hazard could develop, not once it starts, but it’s too early. Second time I waited a bit then it was too late. That’s the only part of theory side I’m on edge about! How long was the wait to start your driving training once you booked it?
Good luck on your test.. there was a night I couldn’t sleep, not at all I was awake the whole night, then got up and prepared to go to work, a shift from Glasgow to Liverpool and back… and I changed my mind, phoned in, said I’m too tired, went back to bed… they were not… ☝️😐… happy… but sometimes that’s how it goes… don’t put yourself in a dangerous position by driving when you are too tired.
@@Cypher791 Hi. So my theory was 95 and hazard 87 with is apparently very good 4.5 on average per question. I am recovering from stomach ulcer that all those nerves have gave me. Hazard was terrible as on website it was all from people dash cameras with completly random odd scenarios and then on exam it was all in 🐌 pace CGI 😱. So loads of stress for nothing. Once I pass license for this year I am just getting experience through agency will try to drive as slow as legal for reasons shown above. All the best on your exam....just mind new highway code as I had one question from that.
Shouldn't be anymore than 8-9 for a lorry driver. If you're driving a train or flying an aircraft you are heavily restricted in the amount of hours you can do. It's also been proven after being awake 15 hours or more you're brain function is similar to that of someone who is over the drink drive limit.
@@devon896 I agree, but it seems that the authorities don't care, but, in case of a incident, driver will be blamed by everyone and prosecuted. Unfortunately and sadly, a lot of stupid people still believe that governments and authorities works hard for us, citizens; yeah, right.
@@mariusmax Very rarely do they work for us. Brexit has made it worse, no more foreign lorry drivers so UK ones having to work longer hours thanks to Grant Shapps.
Totally agree. We can legally work 70+ hours a week regularly which becomes the norm. If we could only work 45 hours the pay would be the same otherwise no one would do it. Hours laws only protect the operators
@@devon896 disagree that it's in regards to foreign drivers. "Maxing out" your hours is industry standard. Simply wouldn't pay to work a lorry 9 hours a day and it certainly wouldn't pay a driver so they push for more hours in order to earn. If you knew haulage you'd know the back story to this company, the traction provider etc.
I’ve followed too many lorries swerving about that I always call the police now and follow at a distance when I see one now. It’s for everyone’s safety.
Hi. would i be able to ask a massive favour. would i possibly be able to use this orsm clip in one of my videos fully credited and linked to you. if not no worries and stay safe :)
I drive heavy vehicles in Australia Interstate and overnights. Melbourne to Sydney around 11 hours and Melbourne to Adelaide about 10 hours, including two half-hour breaks. I see this happen a lot. I spoke to one driver who was in a similar situation, how come he fell asleep? He said he needs to provide for his family and with Interest Rates and the current cost of living, it's really hard. So, he works by day as an Uber driver and drives a truck by night.
I think that’s why so much of the motorways are being changed to a concrete central reservation. A good amount of the m5 further north already has been.
When I was driving back from Somerset a lorry driver was hitting traffic cones on the left side and swering everywhere I was thinking the driver was falling asleep so I overtook as fast as possible cars behind me had put there hazards on staying behind the lorry was still swerving everywhere I hate passing lorrys as it is this experienced terrified me
Although I don't use the motorway, the risk of lorries is why I either slip back into the left lane behind the lorry (only slower vehicles tend to use it anyway) or, and this is more common, overtake (as they're usually doing under 70) quickly and get the heck away from them. And as I pass, I'm ready to either blare the horn or speed up, even if means speeding, to get out the way if they haven't checked their blind spot and start changing lanes.
I've done loads of motorway driving on the M5 and M4 and I know the feeling. I've seen them swerve all over the place because of high winds, they also just pull out without even checking their mirrors which I've had most often. A few times nearly clipping my car, one time I was in the middle lane and one lorry came rushing off the slip road and pulled out right in front of me to overtake another lorry.
@@user-mn5ov4si1o I wasn't "dordling" I was doing fuck 70mph, I moved to the middle lane purposely because of the slip road and seeing the lorries coming off it onto the motorway. As I was about to pass them the lorry behind just cut across lane one right into my lane. Maybe next time actually put yourself in the situation before being an armchair driver and making yourself look at utter knob.
Suspended jail sentence for starting work 7mins early, at 24yrs old, she was probably being harassed as a new start would...her phone needs analysed and the office staff do actual time...the buck stops with them...pressure, pressure, pressure!!
@@dnalor7553 in general, statistics say more young drivers fall asleep behind steering wheel than old ones. Scientifically, that's absolutely Correct, as the older you get, the less is the number of sleeping hours that you need per day.
Opening the windows ain't enough. The moment he started realising he was sleepy - as it's not like we get sleepy then immediately close our eyes in most cases - he should have been looking for services to pull into to get at least 15 minutes' sleep. But perhaps more depending how long he'd been awake and how long he'd been driving. At the absolute minimum, he needed 2 cups of coffee (or equivalent caffeine-fuelled drink) to keep him going until he could find somewhere to sleep.
It's a micro sleep. Your eyes maybe open but you ain't home! Your so knackered you don't know your about to nod off! General haulage drivers have it bad! The boss will push you. Sleep pattern is all shot to shit! Cabs ain't sound proof! Not many have aircon that works while engine is off! They must have roasted if their daily break was during the day in those hot days! Regulations don't need changing, drivers needs as a human need to be addressed!
@@alexrobinson2281 I'm 25 years hgv! I've done it, seen it, got the scars too!! I'm delivering food for a well know chain now, easiest driving job ever! Great ££££, good pension! 1st job I've had where they listen to us drivers! Container work nearly killed me with the long hours! Boss would ring after only being up for a few hours and say ' take ur 9hrs now, I need a container picked up from .......must be delivered to.......by........and I'm like, dude, I'll not be able to sleep as I've just woke up!!! He will say, that's Ok, your tacho will be legal!!
My thoughts and prayers are with the driver. Hope he pulled it through 🤲❤ Lorry driving is a tough job. It is a very disciplined profession. Lorry drivers are highly trained and professional in there field. There's a 5yearly mandatory training and individual companies have regular/yearly assessments for drivers too. There are strict rules on Working Hours, Rests and Driving Times. All is recorded and monitored through computers. Driving long distances, personal health and especially night time Driving can be particularly difficult. This driver was driving empty. Meaning, he must've had unloaded somewhere and coming back. I can safely conclude that he must've driven long distance prior to the accident.
@@paulhawthorne2960 O okkkk Now that explains a bit more. Young meaning probably new in the profession, less experience and still trying to grapple with long distance driving. Very sad. I feel for her. Hope she was OK.
She was 24 at the time, eight months in prison suspended for 18 months and disqualified from driving for 12 months, she has to sit an extended test to regain her licence, i dont know her personally but i know her name and where she is from.
@@madeljacky O man, what a set back at such a young age. Must had been a big knock on her confidence and future prospects. As a Class1 HGV Driver myself, I really feel for her. Bless! ....and thank you.
@@user-mn5ov4si1o Thats as much as you know then but wot your problem is I dont' quite know from your comment as I was merely asking about his history at sawyer, so unless you give me more detail on wot your problem is why comment in the first place with that type of comment.
@@rustydusty2992 I don't have a problem as such. Other than that I can't stand car driving morons that know nothing about what you claim to pontificate about so get over it car driver. When have experience with hgvs then feel free to comment
The government: what shall we do about this? I know let increase their driving time from 9 hours to 10 hours per day, as long as we get the supermarkets full who cares. We’ll just blame the driver, anyway like we always do. Win win.
Not necessarily, although valid point, however, depends on numerous other factors too. One of them being whether he took proper rest before his this shift, how far has he driven 8n this journey cos potentially he could've driven 9hours with only 45min break, his general health, eye sight and if he was on some sort of medication etc
She was "After police examined the lorry’s digital tachograph, which records a driver’s data and activity, they found the driver’s card had been removed from the tachograph. It showed a rest period of eight hours and 53 minutes when the requirement for HGV drivers is at least nine hours. The continuous drive time was found to be 36 minutes beyond the maximum 10 hours."
Armagh DOES NOT necessarily refer to the city, it's a county of Northern Ireland too. AND, the description confirms it "This is the shocking moment a Co Armagh lorry driver...".
I'm surprised that anyone could drive long enough to get tired in the UK. You're never more than 110 km from the Sea, not like it is from, say, Perth to Sydney, a bit of a haul at 3,600km, as the crow flies!
Case and Point: After police examined the lorry’s digital tachograph, which records a driver’s data and activity, they found the driver’s card had been removed from the tachograph. It showed a rest period of eight hours and 53 minutes when the requirement for HGV drivers is at least nine hours. The continuous drive time was found to be 36 minutes beyond the maximum 10 hours.
Well, the answer to that is, Australia is 32 times larger than the UK. And uk has 3 times the population.. It takes hours to get anyware if you're lucky
@@Nickbaldeagle02 in the same boat lad do a run takes around 7hrs 1.5hrs tipping don't do anything they connect pipe...can take a nap if i like ..up 5 mornings aweek at 2am on road at 3am back around 11am..and get about 15 hr break. Paid by the day not hourly even better.
If i feel slightly tired as you are aware before this happens i.e there are plenty of signs that should trigger that lonely brain cell, Its quiet simple get off at next junction service area which ever is closet and rest no timed delivery or bosses whinging at you is worth what can happen if you just keep going...
As much as i hate multi drop in cities in class 2 it keeps you awake . In and out. Them long c1 jobs can really test your stamina especially with underlying health conditions and a few weeks of on and iff sleeo deprevment. Perfect storm simply
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It’s cos of the world we live in now! Work work work, just to get by! No wonder people are tired!
So true
Being HGV he/she is resticted though but of course once he is off duty nobody knows what he or she is doing.
Well said
@@rustydusty2992 maybe he/she haven't nothing wrong when being off duty. Maybe that person have some problems in his/her private life, maybe during that rest period have had a pain or something, do you get this?
@@mariusmax Year well never know yov'e just thrown in many more possibles.
As a lorry driver myself working nights this is very easily done, you see it all the time, drivers swerving out of lane.1 moment you can feel fine a few mins later tired as hell. I slways pull over at nearest services for a coffee red bull and snack. £15 sometimes but i always say whats 15 quid in comparison to stuffing your vehicle and killing someone.
but in the UK sometimes there is like 30 mile between two service station, thats more than half hour struggling with keeping yourself awake (if you are not already sleeping). I mean I do the same, get some Monster or something like that but when there is nothing for a while its just a torture
@@johnnyhun1 I know m8 iv punched myself in the face just to stay alert a few times, slapped myself, both windows full open radio full blast, tryed almost everything you can think of even pulled over on hard shoulder, engine off hazards on and said fuck it, I'm not moving this vehicle another inch until im right, had to be rescued 1 time. Torture is an understatement.
@@noke258 You did the responsible, right thing. Even getting a fine for being in the hard shoulder isn't anywhere close to causing a potentially fatal accident. Something as dangerous as being tired shouldn't get into trouble for that either. I wish there were more drivers like this on the roads.
I usually park in the layby or hard shoulder for 5 minutes to wash my face with drink water when I can't resist anymore. That will help me to drive a bit longer until I find services
You want to try an eye mask mate.
This is so sad, big ups to all truckers out there.
As a London bus driver of nearly 20 years, I know how this can easily happen 😮
I saw a very similar crash to this, difference being the lorry crashed through the central barrier into several cars. The scene was absolute carnage
Why did it take the cammer to wait til the truck hit something before he braked?
I mean it was obvious the moment the truck started merging leftwards that you'd be well-advised to slow down.
Strange and there was nobody in front either so he could have easily overtaken and slotted back in, it's safer to get your overtakes DONE and then return to your cruise control speed, rather than sit aware less at a constant speed no matter if you are gaining on other road users at a slow rate.
Being alongside other vehicles drastically increases your risk. So get your moves DONE or HOLD BACK don't do what this driver does and react to nothing whilst minutely approaching other traffic.
If he was further alongside this truck he wouldn't have been as able to avoid this crash.
Maybe he just didnt indicate pulling onto the hard shoulder?
@@formhubfar You should never assume that a mis-communication is automatically going to be safe, you should interpret any possible miscommunication as either an act of malice, or a medical situation.
Never, ever assume the least severe scenario
@flammenjc "Why did it take the cammer to wait til the truck hit something before he braked?" I was thinking the same thing too!!
You get off the throttle if you see an hgv wondering about the road in front of you, this is text book “I’m doing nothing illegal so I’m safe” mentality, an attitude that I have no doubt is one of the major causes of and/or amplifier of road accidents.
You said it perfectly, always work to not be alongside other vehicles when possible, I break the speed limit often so I can be isolated from human error of other drivers, my accident history doesn’t exist because I don’t blindly obey laws that can’t possibly account for all scenarios.
Absolutely agree with you. I bet, like me, you've never had a crash in your life. Because an attitude of mitigation will always serve you right@@gamerdrive5565
Wish you all the best and hope we can maintain our clean sheet! I'd love to share the road with more drivers like you my friend!
As soon as you see someone swerving you should beep your horn.. It could have prevented this crash!
do you really think from this distance a car horn would be heard from the cab?! You must be a dumbdumb bro :D Even I can baerly hear an other truck's horn behind me, the cabs are usually sealed from stock but there are double layered windows as an extra that gives extra sealing. And the other thing is even if you make somehime the driver to wake up he will fall asleep after again. Sleepiness while driving is like depression, it comes out of nowhere sometimes without any reason, and you can't make it go away
Wife used to work for the Highways Agency and 1 month there was 30 nightdrivers killed apparently falling off to sleep while truck was in cruise control.
It's never mentioned in the newspapers because they don't want to put drivers off night work for fear employers will have to pay proper wages.
i gave my hgv licence up , last week thank god
Scary. Just watching it before my HGV theory and practical. Not that I want to see it but need to be aware of possible scenarios.
Same, waiting for my provisional to come back and swotting up on the necessary and the bad 😆
@@TheArsenalrule2001uk All the best Man. Hazard videos scare life out of me a bit. On website they different videos than on app with is understandable yet some of them you need crystal ball instead of satnav and two sets of eyes plus sixth sense to get close to 4 points. I do understand need of those clips but still sometimes is hard.
@@AntoniOrszykowski same! Been practising on Dvsa app as it has hazard videos but the timing is strange. I click the second I see that a hazard could develop, not once it starts, but it’s too early. Second time I waited a bit then it was too late. That’s the only part of theory side I’m on edge about! How long was the wait to start your driving training once you booked it?
Good luck on your test.. there was a night I couldn’t sleep, not at all I was awake the whole night, then got up and prepared to go to work, a shift from Glasgow to Liverpool and back… and I changed my mind, phoned in, said I’m too tired, went back to bed… they were not… ☝️😐… happy… but sometimes that’s how it goes… don’t put yourself in a dangerous position by driving when you are too tired.
@@Cypher791 Hi. So my theory was 95 and hazard 87 with is apparently very good 4.5 on average per question. I am recovering from stomach ulcer that all those nerves have gave me. Hazard was terrible as on website it was all from people dash cameras with completly random odd scenarios and then on exam it was all in 🐌 pace CGI 😱. So loads of stress for nothing. Once I pass license for this year I am just getting experience through agency will try to drive as slow as legal for reasons shown above. All the best on your exam....just mind new highway code as I had one question from that.
One of the scariest things is seeing this huge vehicle doing something like this.
Thats why a dashcam is invaluable.
That’s why you don’t sit in your car on the hard shoulder
Maximum working hours daily should be 12 hours or 13 hours, no more! That 15 hours should be no more available.
Shouldn't be anymore than 8-9 for a lorry driver. If you're driving a train or flying an aircraft you are heavily restricted in the amount of hours you can do. It's also been proven after being awake 15 hours or more you're brain function is similar to that of someone who is over the drink drive limit.
@@devon896 I agree, but it seems that the authorities don't care, but, in case of a incident, driver will be blamed by everyone and prosecuted. Unfortunately and sadly, a lot of stupid people still believe that governments and authorities works hard for us, citizens; yeah, right.
@@mariusmax Very rarely do they work for us. Brexit has made it worse, no more foreign lorry drivers so UK ones having to work longer hours thanks to Grant Shapps.
Totally agree. We can legally work 70+ hours a week regularly which becomes the norm. If we could only work 45 hours the pay would be the same otherwise no one would do it. Hours laws only protect the operators
@@devon896 disagree that it's in regards to foreign drivers. "Maxing out" your hours is industry standard. Simply wouldn't pay to work a lorry 9 hours a day and it certainly wouldn't pay a driver so they push for more hours in order to earn. If you knew haulage you'd know the back story to this company, the traction provider etc.
I’ve followed too many lorries swerving about that I always call the police now and follow at a distance when I see one now. It’s for everyone’s safety.
Hi. would i be able to ask a massive favour. would i possibly be able to use this orsm clip in one of my videos fully credited and linked to you. if not no worries and stay safe :)
That truck doesn't have lane departure warning which wakes drivers up regularly..
I drive heavy vehicles in Australia Interstate and overnights. Melbourne to Sydney around 11 hours and Melbourne to Adelaide about 10 hours, including two half-hour breaks. I see this happen a lot. I spoke to one driver who was in a similar situation, how come he fell asleep? He said he needs to provide for his family and with Interest Rates and the current cost of living, it's really hard. So, he works by day as an Uber driver and drives a truck by night.
Interesting to see the barrier offers no protection from a lorry crossing into oncoming traffic.
I think that’s why so much of the motorways are being changed to a concrete central reservation. A good amount of the m5 further north already has been.
Literally. This rig drove (fell?) through this like it wasn’t even there. A madness.
When I was driving back from Somerset a lorry driver was hitting traffic cones on the left side and swering everywhere I was thinking the driver was falling asleep so I overtook as fast as possible cars behind me had put there hazards on staying behind the lorry was still swerving everywhere I hate passing lorrys as it is this experienced terrified me
Although I don't use the motorway, the risk of lorries is why I either slip back into the left lane behind the lorry (only slower vehicles tend to use it anyway) or, and this is more common, overtake (as they're usually doing under 70) quickly and get the heck away from them. And as I pass, I'm ready to either blare the horn or speed up, even if means speeding, to get out the way if they haven't checked their blind spot and start changing lanes.
I've done loads of motorway driving on the M5 and M4 and I know the feeling. I've seen them swerve all over the place because of high winds, they also just pull out without even checking their mirrors which I've had most often. A few times nearly clipping my car, one time I was in the middle lane and one lorry came rushing off the slip road and pulled out right in front of me to overtake another lorry.
Tosspot
@@devon896 stop dawdling and pay attention then you won't get in so much bother
@@user-mn5ov4si1o I wasn't "dordling" I was doing fuck 70mph, I moved to the middle lane purposely because of the slip road and seeing the lorries coming off it onto the motorway. As I was about to pass them the lorry behind just cut across lane one right into my lane. Maybe next time actually put yourself in the situation before being an armchair driver and making yourself look at utter knob.
Probs was really tired that he actually forgot to put his number plate on the trailer too
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Well spotted... sometimes i see them upside-down 😂
@Armagh I Hi, could I use this clip on my channel, linked and credited of course?
Suspended jail sentence for starting work 7mins early, at 24yrs old, she was probably being harassed as a new start would...her phone needs analysed and the office staff do actual time...the buck stops with them...pressure, pressure, pressure!!
Bit slow reactions from the driver to start slowing down
Imagine if a car was on the other side
Imagine if a bird was on the other side
@@RicardoRstocchett3177 Imagine if a peanut was on the other side
Imagine a fire breathing dragon swooping down from the sky. You can imagine anything.
He could easily have busted somebody's eggs.
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24 year old bird in a little dress was driving it 😂
Or maybe it was a dozy 50 year old man who should have taken a break if he knew he was tired and unfit for driving.
@@dnalor7553 Nope. Mr Lawrence is quite correct. Young lass driving it. Lucky she wasn't going home in a box.
Confirmed, saw this during our CPC, everyone knows it was a young inexperienced lady
Completely lost her licence, unsure about jail time
@@dnalor7553 in general, statistics say more young drivers fall asleep behind steering wheel than old ones. Scientifically, that's absolutely Correct, as the older you get, the less is the number of sleeping hours that you need per day.
@@dnalor7553 you offensive little bit man when you know what you're talking about then feel free to comment
Just pull off the road and sleep it off or open the windows and let the cold air keep up and alert.
That's doesn't work
Opening the windows ain't enough. The moment he started realising he was sleepy - as it's not like we get sleepy then immediately close our eyes in most cases - he should have been looking for services to pull into to get at least 15 minutes' sleep. But perhaps more depending how long he'd been awake and how long he'd been driving. At the absolute minimum, he needed 2 cups of coffee (or equivalent caffeine-fuelled drink) to keep him going until he could find somewhere to sleep.
It's a micro sleep. Your eyes maybe open but you ain't home! Your so knackered you don't know your about to nod off! General haulage drivers have it bad! The boss will push you. Sleep pattern is all shot to shit! Cabs ain't sound proof! Not many have aircon that works while engine is off! They must have roasted if their daily break was during the day in those hot days! Regulations don't need changing, drivers needs as a human need to be addressed!
Aye , all the armchair experts are wide awake , you ought to try doing our job , treat like shit , always in the way , always late , it’s crap mate
@@alexrobinson2281 I'm 25 years hgv! I've done it, seen it, got the scars too!! I'm delivering food for a well know chain now, easiest driving job ever! Great ££££, good pension! 1st job I've had where they listen to us drivers! Container work nearly killed me with the long hours! Boss would ring after only being up for a few hours and say ' take ur 9hrs now, I need a container picked up from .......must be delivered to.......by........and I'm like, dude, I'll not be able to sleep as I've just woke up!!! He will say, that's Ok, your tacho will be legal!!
Dont want to speculate but is this (sleeping driver) what was the cause of the 2 death crash on M5E today? Motorway shut both ways all day!
Did he wake up tho?
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My thoughts and prayers are with the driver. Hope he pulled it through 🤲❤
Lorry driving is a tough job. It is a very disciplined profession. Lorry drivers are highly trained and professional in there field. There's a 5yearly mandatory training and individual companies have regular/yearly assessments for drivers too.
There are strict rules on Working Hours, Rests and Driving Times. All is recorded and monitored through computers.
Driving long distances, personal health and especially night time Driving can be particularly difficult.
This driver was driving empty. Meaning, he must've had unloaded somewhere and coming back. I can safely conclude that he must've driven long distance prior to the accident.
It was a young lady driver.
@@paulhawthorne2960
O okkkk
Now that explains a bit more.
Young meaning probably new in the profession, less experience and still trying to grapple with long distance driving.
Very sad. I feel for her. Hope she was OK.
She was 24 at the time, eight months in prison suspended for 18 months and disqualified from driving for 12 months, she has to sit an extended test to regain her licence, i dont know her personally but i know her name and where she is from.
@@madeljacky
O man, what a set back at such a young age. Must had been a big knock on her confidence and future prospects.
As a Class1 HGV Driver myself, I really feel for her.
Bless!
....and thank you.
@@madeljacky Pathetic sentence. I was prohibited from driving for 4 years for doing nothing whatsoever.
Did he take out vehicles on other carriageway?
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Is this Northbound or Southbound
Northbound, the 0.3 mile stretch where the B3170 bridge crosses the M5 south-east of Taunton.
Well, she was travelling south but ended up on the Northbound carriageway. So both I guess.
This 15h working time it's nightmare!
Honking sometimes help.
The cam car took way way too long to react to what the lorry was doing
He also forgot to put his number plate on
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Anyone who has driven for sawyers will understand why, i drove for them back in the 1990.s. might be different today
Was your boss making you fiddle your tachos then, or are you saying you were pressured into breaking HGV rules some other way.
@@rustydusty2992 what do you know car driver so. f. a as usual
@@user-mn5ov4si1o Thats as much as you know then but wot your problem is I dont' quite know from your comment as I was merely asking about his history at sawyer, so unless you give me more detail on wot your problem is why comment in the first place with that type of comment.
@@rustydusty2992 I don't have a problem as such. Other than that I can't stand car driving morons that know nothing about what you claim to pontificate about so get over it car driver. When have experience with hgvs then feel free to comment
@@rustydusty2992 don't have a problem as such. Other than people knocking drivers when they know nothing of the situation
Feel bad for him
The government: what shall we do about this? I know let increase their driving time from 9 hours to 10 hours per day, as long as we get the supermarkets full who cares. We’ll just blame the driver, anyway like we always do. Win win.
It is the drivers fault, they have plenty of opportunity to have sleep, while at work
@@fizzhogg23 you think, your just as thick as the government
@theequalizer3330 I don't think. I know. been tramping 12 years
The black dog nearly ran over a few in my time
must of been way over the legal taco limit
Not necessarily, although valid point, however, depends on numerous other factors too. One of them being whether he took proper rest before his this shift, how far has he driven 8n this journey cos potentially he could've driven 9hours with only 45min break, his general health, eye sight and if he was on some sort of medication etc
She was
"After police examined the lorry’s digital tachograph, which records a driver’s data and activity, they found the driver’s card had been removed from the tachograph.
It showed a rest period of eight hours and 53 minutes when the requirement for HGV drivers is at least nine hours.
The continuous drive time was found to be 36 minutes beyond the maximum 10 hours."
Must have. Must've.
@addisoncooke8792 how did you get this information.
@@Deiseboi The various newspapers that reported on it
Jeszcze z 10 razy zrób powtórkę tylko jeszcze wolniej 👎👎👎
Pull back daniel son
Most likely the driver has un diagnosed sleep aponea.
No. They were driving too many hours.
It was all a dream, wait no it wasnt and thats real shit and piss
what is Armagh?
It's a city in Northern Ireland.
@@richardsmedley269 you spelt Ireland wrong 😉
Armagh DOES NOT necessarily refer to the city, it's a county of Northern Ireland too. AND, the description confirms it "This is the shocking moment a Co Armagh lorry driver...".
It's a city in the north of Ireland 🇮🇪
@@cathedralImages No, Northern Ireland. The 'north of Ireland' is the northern region of the Republic of Ireland.
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I'm surprised that anyone could drive long enough to get tired in the UK. You're never more than 110 km from the Sea, not like it is from, say, Perth to Sydney, a bit of a haul at 3,600km, as the crow flies!
Distance has nothing to do with it you tit, it's the amount of time you spend driving.
Case and Point: After police examined the lorry’s digital tachograph, which records a driver’s data and activity, they found the driver’s card had been removed from the tachograph.
It showed a rest period of eight hours and 53 minutes when the requirement for HGV drivers is at least nine hours.
The continuous drive time was found to be 36 minutes beyond the maximum 10 hours.
Not everybody's driving to the sea...
Well, the answer to that is, Australia is 32 times larger than the UK. And uk has 3 times the population.. It takes hours to get anyware if you're lucky
BREXIT! MORE WORKING HOURS FOR HGV DRIVERS!
Result! Freedom from petty EU rules.
This is why I stopped driving HGV your forced to work stupid hours and get treated like shit from other companys
There are plenty of companies that do not force you to do silly hours
I work anywhere from 6 to 10 hour shifts. There are good companies. I'm at one.
@@Nickbaldeagle02 in the same boat lad do a run takes around 7hrs 1.5hrs tipping don't do anything they connect pipe...can take a nap if i like ..up 5 mornings aweek at 2am on road at 3am back around 11am..and get about 15 hr break. Paid by the day not hourly even better.
If i feel slightly tired as you are aware before this happens i.e there are plenty of signs that should trigger that lonely brain cell, Its quiet simple get off at next junction service area which ever is closet and rest no timed delivery or bosses whinging at you is worth what can happen if you just keep going...
Why do you have to be so insulting... When you know sooooooo little car driver y. F. I
class 1-2 pcv licence hardly a car driver bud@@user-mn5ov4si1o
C**T wants his licence taking off him permanently!
20K fine & a year in the clink!
Cznts like you should never have one in the first place thick boy
It' was a young girl
Think she disqualified for life on h g v s
@@johnmcintyre800you think wrong. Suspended prison sentence, 12 month driving ban and must sit an extended re-test.
@@Nickbaldeagle02 nearly sure it was a young girl
Maybe it a different crash l thinking of
As much as i hate multi drop in cities in class 2 it keeps you awake . In and out. Them long c1 jobs can really test your stamina especially with underlying health conditions and a few weeks of on and iff sleeo deprevment. Perfect storm simply