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@@arinicole5641 i think they were right in saying it depends on the episode, because while bobby's job is super challenging, it depends from person to person what the "hero" struggles with the most
Bobby is so underrated. He is so talented, wise and has been through so much. He's such an inspiration!!! So are all of them, but, I think Bobby deserves just as much credit!!!
@@celestialg1rl0101 I originally had said "So are all of the guys, ..." But as soon as I was reminded that JVN does not identify as a guy I changed it to them
That was really comforting to hear because as someone who also deals with social anxiety, sometimes I go home feeling incredibly guilty because I was rude or mean to someone out of panic. If I am in a social situation I am in survival mode which means I am not thinking about the other person at the moment. Sucks though, because I do not mean it.
@@bealuhan I remember when I thought I was so useless that nobody would care whether I say hi or not. So I wouldn't. And people would think I didn't like em due to that.. woof
@@bealuhan Hey, I’m proud of you !! You’re amazing, and I know how tough it is. Please don’t beat yourself up about being “rude”, your comfort is just as important. You’ve got this!! ❤️
@@bealuhan I don’t have social anxiety the way some do but I’ve definitely done the “oops didn’t mean to be rude because I’m not behaving in a way that is socially acceptable because I’m an introvert.” I usually operate in the mindset of “do me first, apologize and explain later”. You have nothing to feel guilty about. If they are people who are important to you, then they will understand once you explain you have social anxiety and how that can look like. And if it’s nobody important to you, then who cares what they think. You do you. Society was shaped by extroverts and I’m tired of introverts having to adjust to become more like an extrovert.
Yeahh, I tend to not look at people I pass faces or in their eyes, because I am an anxious, introvert person and I often miss my friends or family or just someone I know and they think I ignore them on purpose, which is not the case :(
worth noting that having a crush is different than feeling attraction! and in my experience its just the norm for a lot of people in the queer community to flirt with their friends and be physically affectionate
I shed a tear when Bobby said his driver told him the story of understanding his daughter better because of Queer Eye. When people are exposed to things that at first they have no understanding of or make them uncomfortable, they begin to learn that there is nothing to fear. All it takes is a connection with ONE person from another spectrum to make them realize we are all human and worthy of love.
The way they hug each other for moral support is honestly the level of emotional intelligence that I aspire to obtain. I have a hard time with a affection even with my female friends but sometimes I can tell that they need it when they’re going through stuff. I just don’t know how to do it naturally.
When they got the "Gender isn't important" question, my mind immediately went to that Tumblr post that had someone saying "Denounce gender roles; Respect gender identity" which probably would have had me stay in the middle
@@DA-js7xz i mean not really. Gender roles are not equal to gender identity. For ex. I can be firm in my identity as a woman without falling into the assigned gender roles of being a mother or caretaker. Forcing gender roles upon someone (like if I were forced to be a mother) is reprehensible, while my identity as a woman is harmless & comforting to me. Therefore, respecting my gender identity would simply be the decent thing to do following the golden rule. Hope this cleared things up for you
Yeah like I am a woman but I'm no house wife and hate pink. I'm currently applying to PhDs in science and not thr cleanest house wise. So I'm failing at thr gender role lmao
I do get "D A"'s point though in the sense that, if future generations are raised ENTIRELY free from gender roles, there would be no more (social) gender, only biological gender. The reason I identify more as female than as male is because of some characteristics that bother me in men and that I have experienced with several men (whether boyfriend or friend) but never with women (and I can hardly imagine that any woman would ever behave in this way - ofc there are always exceptions). But it is not a very strong identification. I don't really care about my gender: I'm a woman and it doesn't bother me, that's it.
HELP antoni is so funny in this, the “i pull many pranks!!” and they all just go “literally when???” or the “I GET OVERWHELMED” when talking about being stopped on the street. precious
@@JamesTaylor-zf7tf to be fair to Bobby tho he accidentally ran over JVN's foot and the result was a ripped toenail he didn't mean too the prank was that he was supposed to pop out and scare JVN
When they talked about the pronouns on name tags, my mind jumped to "If I had had to put my pronouns on my name tag, I would have either outed myself to my parents or had to give the wrong pronouns."
My company requests that you put your pronouns in your email signature but I like the idea of putting it on your name tag as well (based on preference, not necessarily mandatory)
I really appreciate someone like Antoni being so vocal about his sexuality and not wanting to label it. I’ve been confused about my sexuality for over four years and no labels feel quite right. It’s so amazing seeing someone like him with such a big platform.
I know jvn is non binary but I agree with the others. I don’t have my pronouns anywhere because I don’t know what they are and I’m not ready for the world to see that they are not the ones they expect out of me
as a non-binary person, I wish you the best of luck in your journey 💘 it took me a couple years to figure out how I prefer to be addressed and I know you can get there
i agree. i definitely understand jvn’s point of view on the matter and i think that pronouns are important but there are some people who just arent ready.
It can be truly terrifying to dismantle social constructs that have developed over thousands of years. But this is why we're such a fascinating species because we are self-aware about how our actions contribute to social evolution! FYI, I advocate for declaring pronouns if you feel safe enough to do so. Discovering one's pronouns isn't a binary issue and can be a spectrum of introspection.
The whole "se people just aren't ready" doesn't sit well with me. I respect anyones choice to assign their own pronouns, but just because I don't want to, doesn't mean I'm "not ready". It forces me to choose something when I don't identify myself like that or by pronouns. So ooof course I'd never be annoyed at someone no matter what pronouns they used for me, but just because I don't see gender or my pronouns as a part of myself I want to define, doesn't mean I'm somewhere on a journey with it and need to work it out. I am fine as just being me. I'm not still working it out or uncomfortable and it's condescending to imply so.
Them being nonbinary doesn’t make them the definitive voice for all enby people. And, frankly, as a white and financially secure person he’s got a lot of privilege to hold that stance.
@kshamwhizzle I totally agree. And I absolutely recognize and understand how important gender and gender expression is to some people. I know that gender is something that has helped a lot of people find their own identities, but I wish that there wasn’t such a confined gender sphere to fit into the mold of. Gender roles have deeply hurt the society we live in for so long and I personally wish that people could look past gender as a form of identify and just see people as they are!
Yes! I feel like Bobby doesn't get as much screen time as the other guys or doesn't have as many emotional conversations with the participants, so it's harder to know what he's like. This video made me like him more 🥰
Queer Eye is one of the only pieces of media that will make me feel genuine joy no matter how depressed I am. It’s so touching the work that this group does, it truly does make a difference for many of us.
My thoughts on labels: Label yourself if it is helpful to you. If it’s not helpful to you, don’t bother. Don’t feel pressure from society to label yourself. I adopt some labels, such as trans and queer, but I don’t get very specific because that’s not important to me. If it is for someone else, great. If not, totally okay. Labels are to help you, not help others explain you or put you into a box. Do whatever you want.
I'm cis and I don't like the trend where everybody 'needs' to specify their pronouns, I feel that, ironically, this is so stigmatizing and putting people in boxes. I have an obviously female name, so it's obvious I identify as female (assuming I'm not ''in the closet'', if we can use that expression for gender identity). I mean, if I identified as male, I would change my name to an unambiguously male one, and if I was agender/genderfluid, I'd deliberately pick an 'ambiguous' name AND I would specify my "they/them" pronouns. Also for other people with ambiguous names (whether they are cis or trans or other), it makes sense to specify pronouns. But otherwise I just wouldn't do it, because I feel like I would be saying to everybody "Hey, my name is X AND BY THE WAY I AM FEMALE EVERBODYYYYYYY! Not that I want this to matter right now but anyway, just thought I'd mention" 😂 (Similar to stating every time to everybody that you're straight, that you adhere to a certain religion, to a certain political party, etc. etc.)
@@soybean3423 Some people may have names you consider feminine but not use she/her pronouns. Also, if only people with ambiguous names said their pronouns then it would make them feel other and affect many non-binary people who do choose to have gender-neutral names. Not all non-binary people pick gender-neutral names. Not all trans women pick feminine names. Not all trans men would pick obviously male names. I didn’t! Whether you’re cis or trans, you cannot tell someone’s pronouns by looking at them or by their name. There’s nothing wrong with having a stereotypically gendered name as a non-binary person. If they’re okay with it, they’re okay with it. Same for trans men or women. Normalizing it helps stop stereotyping, othering of trans* people, and make sure people are respected. We refer to people with names and introduce ourselves that why, so why not pronouns? It’s quick and easy. I don’t really see how pronouns are stigmatizing. I also don’t see that’s it’s weird to introduce them. You introduce yourself with your name so people can refer to you. Same with pronouns. Saying your religion or political party, like you said as examples, in every introduction doesn’t matter because people aren’t going to be referring to you as that.
This is exactly my mindset on labels, also the reason I don’t care if the label someone chooses doesn’t fit the standard definition, if the label makes a person feel seen, that’s all that matters!
@@Birdkiller46 Exactly! I am a cis woman with a very feminine name, but I still put pronouns in my bio, we need to normalize pronouns in order to help trans and non-binary individuals. It’s such a small thing on the part of one person, but when many people do it, it adds up to help a whole community of people. Most of my friends are LGBTQ+, I am ace demipanromantic myself, and many of my friends are trans and/or non-binary so if I can help them by doing this insanely small thing, then I think I should.
They’re a great example of a group of friends (or even just people) who don’t necessarily agree in every subject, but don’t try to push their opinions and still highly respect each other 💕
I feel like 'demanding' people to put pronouns on name tags as a given rule would be quite dangerous to trans people or gender-nonconforming people who are not out yet or not out in all of their life. Imagine getting a new job in a very prejudiced part of the world, for example, choosing to not come out as a way of protecting yourself, and then being faced to choose your pronouns for their nametag? Imagine kids who haven't come out to their parents yet but maybe their classmates getting their real pronouns 'leaked' in school documents? I don't know.
i know right, in that situation they might just lie about their pronouns and then have to get it changed later when they're ready (or if they're ever ready)
I guess you could change it though... But I think Jonathan expressed feelings about pronouns in an ideal world where everyone could be themselves from the get go rather than doing it today in our current world.
yeah i really hated how JVN couldn’t grasp that not everyone is privileged enough to not have to be closeted or questioning. it was so frustrated how he bascially suggested that closeted people out themselves or misgender themselves to appease his desire for ‘equality’
I think everyone really misunderstood Jonathans point, I felt they meant if we all knew about current open pronouns from birth, then when I was growing up I can understand and get to know what mine are, I wouldn't be fearful of some new label because it would be normal. It's like way back when we all picked out first email addresses or usernames terrified of who might see them or what they might say about us when in reality they are as changeable as our minds, as the weather, as our moods, they are almost time stamps of what felt important to me at that time, who I felt I was, I don't really see any difference! I felt what was said was to suggest that perhaps pronouns, given time, could be as normal as anything else, who said anything was set in stone!
I think Jonathan assumed in a world where everyone is already cool with pronouns and stuff. Like I think it's obviously that one shouldn't out themselves if it's not save.
bobby’s story about the taxi driver really hits home cause this show finally exposed my VERY christian grandma to the queer community, and it finally helped her accept my community, which was something i never imagined would happen. this show is so amazing
I think Johnathans job actually is pretty hard. Hair is an emotional thing. Your not just giving someone new hair. You are changing something about them that they have a deeply emotional connection to.
It's a sweet show. I enjoy their personalites as individuals and as a group. Also, watching them help different kinds of people is kinda touching. It shows that we are all struggling with something no matter who you are and what you look like.
I’m okay with online too but all my attempts have ended negatively. Finding people and groups is hard, even online. Almost feels like I need to go to some specific sort of casting call or something
I'm really happy that they did more genuine spectrum questions by the end. I enjoyed the fun stuff at the beginning but the conversations were the best
When asked the crush question I related so hard with Antoni. Being bi/pans etc. Having an attraction to both men and women, you appreciate their physical attractiveness, but not every hot person is someone you have a crush on. Idk if it's just me. Also, Bobby is a blessing I love him
I love this group of amazing people. The Fab Five honestly have done so much, I teared up towards the end hearing about how much of a difference they've made. I watch the show with my partner and friends all the time. What beautiful people they all are ♥♥
I just love how all of them vibe together for real! I'm not even queer, merely an ally, but watching the show and seeing people today discuss things more openly and get interested in Queer Eye makes me so happy. My partner has a term for things that make us happy and fuzzy inside, it's "a warm, cozy blaket". So there you have it: Queer Eye is a warm cozy blanket of a show, and I'm always touched by it and the guys, and leave an episode feeling comforted.
the exact moment i actually fully accepted i was gay was when i watched an episode of queer eye where they transformed the gay pastor. they truly changed my life and helped me accept myself and couldn’t be more thankful
As a trans person I really like what they were saying about pronouns!! I’m from the south and there are kinda a lot of layers as to why it can be scary. I don’t think it’s fair to force trans people into essentially outing themselves when they’re not ready and it can also be very dangerous… just because something becomes “socially acceptable” in media doesn’t mean that there aren’t places where it’s still very different. I definitely think letting people know your pronouns is important and it needs to be normalized but that energy really needs to be directed at cis people. If it was standard practice with EVERYONE, not just trans people, then hell yeah! But we’re not there yet :/ I definitely get what Jonathan’s saying but, in my experience living in a little town in East Tennessee, misgendering only gets worse when I wear my pronoun pin. It takes away any chance I had at passing as cis and just gets more anger directed towards me in public so … I know it may be different in, you know, New York or LA, but people should keep in mind that the majority of us don’t have the luxury of being able to be ourselves without fear yet. And there are people who have to be closeted that would have to misgender themselves and ,,, yeah it’s a whoooole multi layered issue but I really appreciated tan and antoni and Bobby’s thoughts about it because I think it’s so often portrayed as a black and white issue when it’s not. Also antoni I’m free this weekend just so you know
I'm from India, and here things like sexuality and gender are just not known. I doubt people even in the "modern cities" know about the LGBTQ+ community. So of course having my pronouns on a "label" is scary to me. Even just having she/her as a label would make people raise eyebrows at me and ask me why I feel the need to reiterate that. I can't even imagine including they/them as of yet. We are millions of years away from acceptance here and a lot of times, I see westerners not being able to grasp just how difficult lives are for us out here.
I hope you get a chance to visit middle TN, especially Nashville. It’s a break from most of TN’s homophobia and transphobia, and you deserve to feel welcome where you are :) plenty of LGBTQ representation and public support from small businesses and general public, especially in east Nashville and green hills. TN is a very, very disappointing place politically (especially right now with the book banning), but Nashville can occasionally be a breath of fresh air, and you deserve that break :)
When it comes to pronouns, I don't think tags are always the best/safest option for many people. If trans and non-binary folks, for example, have to display their pronouns, they might be risking their safety or if they choose to remain safe, experience dysphoria
very true and I also think that it is not necessary to have everyone displaying their pronouns since around 99.8% of the population lives within the binary of either he/him and she/her so most of the time you can safely assume someone's pronouns just by looking at them, because there's a 99.8% chance you're right. In the 0.2% of cases when you're wrong they can let you know that they go by they/them.
@@allenp9173 That's very true, and in fact many trans people actually prefer to have people guess their pronouns by how they look, since that's the whole point of trying to pass, is to not have to have your identity come into question every time you pass someone on the street. (The whole "don't assume my gender" thing is made up). Of course there are also trans people who feel very differently about it, but the important thing is that IF someone shares their pronouns or corrects people on them, they should always be respected.
In the show we don’t hear Bobby’s narrative often, so it was a delight to see his pov on certain topics.. He’s very thoughtful, caring and relatable, loved seeing this side of him
Everyone has pronouns. However, making pronouns mandatory at work or social functions is dangerous. That is demanding someone to out themselves and discounts potential dangers a person could face from others in their workplace and/or home life.
For the “gender isn’t important” question, they all somewhat agreed even though they went to strongly disagree. It’s all circumstantial, because gender does matter to trans people & in terms of sexual attraction in one’s orientation gender matters. It’s the societal gender norms they disagree with. Gender still matters but its importance has been inflated and too binary in society.
YOU ARE CHANGING THE WORLD!!! you have educated me on so many things I never would have been exposed to. I love the show. keep up all the great work :)
Even though I side more with the other guys’ opinion, I gotta respect someone who is willing to stand alone and firm in their place. Not a lot of people can remain true to their opinion alone against multiple opponents, I gotta respect them for that 👏🏻
I don’t respect that they thought most other non-binary people would be able to relate to them I’m nb and HEAVILY more in favor of the other guys’ opinions.
This video just made my day (like any episode of the show does)!! Absolutely love them and what they have done to change people's lives. LOOOOVE Tan and Antoni they have the cutest cuddly friendship EVER. SOOO looking forward to watching the season in Germany!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Queer Eye is my comfort show, my safe space. Every time i feel the world is falling apart and my faith in humanity is getting lost, these 5 amazing people just make me think that maybe there is still hope. They make me so happy, i love them so much
This video is incredibly beautiful, I love how they have different opinions, respect each other and each other’s thoughts and can openly talk about and hear each other. This is why they are the fab 5 (I missed Karamo here), they encourage conversation. And this game does that too. Love love love ❤️
With the labels... I was really happy about that question and the conversation they had. Personally I believe very strongly (my personnel opinion, I'm in no way trying to force this opinion on anyone else
I'm so happy to see the fab 5 answering questions like this I've never seen them in anything outside of the show and its so nice to see them just being real like this especially on a channel I already watch
I didn't realize I could love these people any more than I already do but.. I was wrong. 😊 I was sad that Karamo was sick and missed being there.. would have been nice to hear from him as well. 😞 This has been a lovely way to get to know them better without invading their they're personal lives. Thank you!!
This show heals my heart. When I am having a hard time, I start watching them work their magic. I think a lot about what JVN said about how do we really always have to be the bigger person and he said you know what I think we do. I think about that a lot when I am in difficult situations where I don’t want to alienate myself from the person but still have convictions where the basis is human rights and bodily autonomy.
You guys are changing the world for sure. The people you work with, and the people who see your work are all learning and growing. You cannot overstate how valuable that is. People on your show have even said it. “I never thought I would meet or get along with gay people. I never knew anyone like you before”. That is HUGE. I love you all and everything you do for humanity. You bridge the gaps. You represent the best of the LGBTQ community and seek to help ALL people.
They all inspire me so much but specifically Tan. I love him to bits and to see him finally in a place where he has a baby, a partner and where he seems to be happy gives me real hope for the world. Just know we all love you and everything you’re doing for not only queer people but others too. Your helping families understand their kids and what they are going through and you’re the first show that I know of that is doing that. Xoxo love you lots
IM SO HAPPY THEY DID THIS WITH QUEER EYE this show gives me so so much serotonin! It is truly so lovely and has made me cry on more than one occasion, great video :)
He hasn't been doing any press for this season, I don't really know why. It's weird. They always talk about him though so it seems like there's no problem between them
@@christystainer3741 yeah but the press tour has been going on for weeks and he's never there. hopefully it's nothing serious seen as he's been out of the press tour for more or less a month
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I think you should do “do all middle children think the same” I’d love to see that
same
I'm glad they gave Bobby the credit he deserves for "I have the hardest job on the show" -- JVN, STEP BACK-- IT'S BOBBY'S TIME
His labor is honestly the hardest part of the show physically
Emotionally I think Karamo has the hardest job
no fr! he gets the least screen time yet we all know he has the largest budget and is doing the most!
@@arinicole5641 i think they were right in saying it depends on the episode, because while bobby's job is super challenging, it depends from person to person what the "hero" struggles with the most
@@reesienoe I totally agree with you there. It’s definitely dependent on a person by person basis for the show
Lmaooo we’ve had this thought since season 1
Bobby is so underrated. He is so talented, wise and has been through so much. He's such an inspiration!!! So are all of them, but, I think Bobby deserves just as much credit!!!
A friendly reminder that JVN is nonbinary which means they don’t identify as a guy :)
@@jmeee Why? They didn't mention her
@@jmeee JVN said in this video that they are fluid and identify with him/her/they
@@celestialg1rl0101 I originally had said "So are all of the guys, ..." But as soon as I was reminded that JVN does not identify as a guy I changed it to them
Exactly! I literally love Bobby so much 😭❤️
i'm still not over tan yelling "you were in love with me for like two seasons, c'mon" 😂
This is as a lot of fun. Thanks for having us! ❤️
Yay!!
You’re awesome ❤️
I could watch the fab 5 talk all day!! I'm a heroette in my mind lol I love you all thanks for doing this
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Wait, I'm so obsessed with Antoni demanding to finish his thought uninterrupted
It was hot
@@fortunatelyfortunate7138 he is hot😂
Made me nervous😂
@@alizaloring3437 did he say he's bi? Because HELLO!
@@DA-js7xz he's fluid according to his wiki (he doesn't like labels for his sexuality)
Antoni is honestly the funniest because he’s so subtle and then all of a sudden something hilarious just jumps out
His bolognese comment was amazing
"Did you say HAD?!"
@@glass-rodeo ".....oh."
It’s because he’s Canadian.
These guys are a iconic friend group tbh. Got each other’s back while at the same time always bitching at one another. 😭🤣
A friendly reminder that JVN is nonbinary which means they don’t identify as a guy :)
@@jmeee they are all male/boys/men/guys/he/him
@@zaywhite337 JVN is non-binary.
@@zaywhite337 they just spoke about how tired they are of getting misgender, please be more aware.
@@jmeee jonathan uses she/he/they pronouns
It was really nice hearing Antoni explain his social anxiety. People think you're being mean when you act that way, but it's just being overwhelmed!
That was really comforting to hear because as someone who also deals with social anxiety, sometimes I go home feeling incredibly guilty because I was rude or mean to someone out of panic. If I am in a social situation I am in survival mode which means I am not thinking about the other person at the moment. Sucks though, because I do not mean it.
@@bealuhan I remember when I thought I was so useless that nobody would care whether I say hi or not. So I wouldn't. And people would think I didn't like em due to that.. woof
@@bealuhan Hey, I’m proud of you !! You’re amazing, and I know how tough it is. Please don’t beat yourself up about being “rude”, your comfort is just as important. You’ve got this!! ❤️
@@bealuhan I don’t have social anxiety the way some do but I’ve definitely done the “oops didn’t mean to be rude because I’m not behaving in a way that is socially acceptable because I’m an introvert.” I usually operate in the mindset of “do me first, apologize and explain later”. You have nothing to feel guilty about. If they are people who are important to you, then they will understand once you explain you have social anxiety and how that can look like. And if it’s nobody important to you, then who cares what they think. You do you. Society was shaped by extroverts and I’m tired of introverts having to adjust to become more like an extrovert.
Yeahh, I tend to not look at people I pass faces or in their eyes, because I am an anxious, introvert person and I often miss my friends or family or just someone I know and they think I ignore them on purpose, which is not the case :(
antoni: denying having a crush on any member
also antoni: can't keep his hands off tan
LOL so true!!
Being close with someone doesn’t mean your attracted to them in that way
@coffeebeans Tan has been married for like a decade. They just had a baby last summer.
They're like family. Don't be gross.
worth noting that having a crush is different than feeling attraction! and in my experience its just the norm for a lot of people in the queer community to flirt with their friends and be physically affectionate
I shed a tear when Bobby said his driver told him the story of understanding his daughter better because of Queer Eye. When people are exposed to things that at first they have no understanding of or make them uncomfortable, they begin to learn that there is nothing to fear. All it takes is a connection with ONE person from another spectrum to make them realize we are all human and worthy of love.
Yess!!
tantoni. that's all. the cutest friendship ever.
Tan is Antoni's emotional support human ... 😅😅
Are they in love? Looks like it
The way they hug each other for moral support is honestly the level of emotional intelligence that I aspire to obtain. I have a hard time with a affection even with my female friends but sometimes I can tell that they need it when they’re going through stuff. I just don’t know how to do it naturally.
@@sharas13 No, they just know how to be there for each other in ways that both of them feel comfortable accepting affection as friends.
Tan is married…not to Antoni
When they got the "Gender isn't important" question, my mind immediately went to that Tumblr post that had someone saying "Denounce gender roles; Respect gender identity" which probably would have had me stay in the middle
Sounds contradictory
@@DA-js7xz how?
@@DA-js7xz i mean not really. Gender roles are not equal to gender identity. For ex. I can be firm in my identity as a woman without falling into the assigned gender roles of being a mother or caretaker. Forcing gender roles upon someone (like if I were forced to be a mother) is reprehensible, while my identity as a woman is harmless & comforting to me. Therefore, respecting my gender identity would simply be the decent thing to do following the golden rule. Hope this cleared things up for you
Yeah like I am a woman but I'm no house wife and hate pink. I'm currently applying to PhDs in science and not thr cleanest house wise. So I'm failing at thr gender role lmao
I do get "D A"'s point though in the sense that, if future generations are raised ENTIRELY free from gender roles, there would be no more (social) gender, only biological gender.
The reason I identify more as female than as male is because of some characteristics that bother me in men and that I have experienced with several men (whether boyfriend or friend) but never with women (and I can hardly imagine that any woman would ever behave in this way - ofc there are always exceptions). But it is not a very strong identification. I don't really care about my gender: I'm a woman and it doesn't bother me, that's it.
HELP antoni is so funny in this, the “i pull many pranks!!” and they all just go “literally when???” or the “I GET OVERWHELMED” when talking about being stopped on the street. precious
I died laughing when Jonathan screamed at Tan to "get his ass back" to his own line. DIED!
“You ripped off my toe nail” for something so violent he said that so adorably lol
😳 Ripping toenails hurts😬
That's not a prank thats assault 😭😭
@@JamesTaylor-zf7tf 😥
@@JamesTaylor-zf7tf to be fair to Bobby tho he accidentally ran over JVN's foot and the result was a ripped toenail he didn't mean too the prank was that he was supposed to pop out and scare JVN
It was nice to hear antoni talk about social anxiety and being bisexual was really nice! It was cool to see him open up
Agreed, there's a lot of bi erasure around Antoni
As someone who’s bisexual, it made me really happy to hear that there was someone I look up to who is also bi
I love how Antoni is just holding onto his emotional support Tan this whole video
Love all of you and mad respect for all that you do!
EMOTIONAL SUPPORT TAN I CAN'T
When they talked about the pronouns on name tags, my mind jumped to "If I had had to put my pronouns on my name tag, I would have either outed myself to my parents or had to give the wrong pronouns."
yeah, i think as long as its safe for the person in the environment, displaying pronouns can be useful. but safety is super super important
exactly
Exactly! The fact that Jonathan OF ALL PEOPLE didn’t understand that was mind blowing to me
My company requests that you put your pronouns in your email signature but I like the idea of putting it on your name tag as well (based on preference, not necessarily mandatory)
Exactly. I think they should be encouraged but not required for this very reason
I really appreciate someone like Antoni being so vocal about his sexuality and not wanting to label it. I’ve been confused about my sexuality for over four years and no labels feel quite right. It’s so amazing seeing someone like him with such a big platform.
They are so funny together. I’m glad they have a bond besides being members of a show.
Bobby is truly the unsung hero of Queer Eye. I adore him
I feel like its taken a while for him to come out of his shell, but he's finally showing the world what a gem he is. Love him
Hes not cause we all love him❤
I know jvn is non binary but I agree with the others. I don’t have my pronouns anywhere because I don’t know what they are and I’m not ready for the world to see that they are not the ones they expect out of me
as a non-binary person, I wish you the best of luck in your journey 💘 it took me a couple years to figure out how I prefer to be addressed and I know you can get there
i agree. i definitely understand jvn’s point of view on the matter and i think that pronouns are important but there are some people who just arent ready.
It can be truly terrifying to dismantle social constructs that have developed over thousands of years. But this is why we're such a fascinating species because we are self-aware about how our actions contribute to social evolution! FYI, I advocate for declaring pronouns if you feel safe enough to do so. Discovering one's pronouns isn't a binary issue and can be a spectrum of introspection.
The whole "se people just aren't ready" doesn't sit well with me. I respect anyones choice to assign their own pronouns, but just because I don't want to, doesn't mean I'm "not ready". It forces me to choose something when I don't identify myself like that or by pronouns. So ooof course I'd never be annoyed at someone no matter what pronouns they used for me, but just because I don't see gender or my pronouns as a part of myself I want to define, doesn't mean I'm somewhere on a journey with it and need to work it out. I am fine as just being me. I'm not still working it out or uncomfortable and it's condescending to imply so.
Them being nonbinary doesn’t make them the definitive voice for all enby people. And, frankly, as a white and financially secure person he’s got a lot of privilege to hold that stance.
I love how they love each other and respect one another and can have different opinions and view points
tan screaming that antoni was in love with him for two seasons made me CACKLE 😭
I love Bobby’s viewpoint on life and on all of these topics, he is so insightful!
He’s so smart
@kshamwhizzle I totally agree. And I absolutely recognize and understand how important gender and gender expression is to some people. I know that gender is something that has helped a lot of people find their own identities, but I wish that there wasn’t such a confined gender sphere to fit into the mold of. Gender roles have deeply hurt the society we live in for so long and I personally wish that people could look past gender as a form of identify and just see people as they are!
I agree! Is he the oldest?
@kshamwhizzle right i could totally relate to that
Yes! I feel like Bobby doesn't get as much screen time as the other guys or doesn't have as many emotional conversations with the participants, so it's harder to know what he's like. This video made me like him more 🥰
Queer Eye is one of the only pieces of media that will make me feel genuine joy no matter how depressed I am. It’s so touching the work that this group does, it truly does make a difference for many of us.
💯
Bobby throwing up those two middle fingers was EVERYTHING.
I wanna know who it was!
@@vernverp4360 AJ in season 1
@@vernverp4360 One of their customers listed the freshly-furnished house/apartment online and moved.
@@onefourthhuman who?
My thoughts on labels: Label yourself if it is helpful to you. If it’s not helpful to you, don’t bother. Don’t feel pressure from society to label yourself. I adopt some labels, such as trans and queer, but I don’t get very specific because that’s not important to me. If it is for someone else, great. If not, totally okay. Labels are to help you, not help others explain you or put you into a box. Do whatever you want.
Ty. I rly needed to hear this🥺🤧
I'm cis and I don't like the trend where everybody 'needs' to specify their pronouns, I feel that, ironically, this is so stigmatizing and putting people in boxes. I have an obviously female name, so it's obvious I identify as female (assuming I'm not ''in the closet'', if we can use that expression for gender identity). I mean, if I identified as male, I would change my name to an unambiguously male one, and if I was agender/genderfluid, I'd deliberately pick an 'ambiguous' name AND I would specify my "they/them" pronouns. Also for other people with ambiguous names (whether they are cis or trans or other), it makes sense to specify pronouns. But otherwise I just wouldn't do it, because I feel like I would be saying to everybody "Hey, my name is X AND BY THE WAY I AM FEMALE EVERBODYYYYYYY! Not that I want this to matter right now but anyway, just thought I'd mention" 😂
(Similar to stating every time to everybody that you're straight, that you adhere to a certain religion, to a certain political party, etc. etc.)
@@soybean3423 Some people may have names you consider feminine but not use she/her pronouns. Also, if only people with ambiguous names said their pronouns then it would make them feel other and affect many non-binary people who do choose to have gender-neutral names. Not all non-binary people pick gender-neutral names. Not all trans women pick feminine names. Not all trans men would pick obviously male names. I didn’t! Whether you’re cis or trans, you cannot tell someone’s pronouns by looking at them or by their name. There’s nothing wrong with having a stereotypically gendered name as a non-binary person. If they’re okay with it, they’re okay with it. Same for trans men or women. Normalizing it helps stop stereotyping, othering of trans* people, and make sure people are respected. We refer to people with names and introduce ourselves that why, so why not pronouns? It’s quick and easy. I don’t really see how pronouns are stigmatizing. I also don’t see that’s it’s weird to introduce them. You introduce yourself with your name so people can refer to you. Same with pronouns. Saying your religion or political party, like you said as examples, in every introduction doesn’t matter because people aren’t going to be referring to you as that.
This is exactly my mindset on labels, also the reason I don’t care if the label someone chooses doesn’t fit the standard definition, if the label makes a person feel seen, that’s all that matters!
@@Birdkiller46 Exactly! I am a cis woman with a very feminine name, but I still put pronouns in my bio, we need to normalize pronouns in order to help trans and non-binary individuals. It’s such a small thing on the part of one person, but when many people do it, it adds up to help a whole community of people. Most of my friends are LGBTQ+, I am ace demipanromantic myself, and many of my friends are trans and/or non-binary so if I can help them by doing this insanely small thing, then I think I should.
I love the fab 5!! So happy you guys made this video! So sad Karamo isn’t there.
Where is he!
@@laneythelame I think he may have been ill? I believe something got mentioned when they were on… Jimmy Fallon maybe?
Bobby is so well spoken and intelligent, I cried when he cried 😢. Like I do every queer eye episode (happy tears obviously)
They’re a great example of a group of friends (or even just people) who don’t necessarily agree in every subject, but don’t try to push their opinions and still highly respect each other 💕
I feel like 'demanding' people to put pronouns on name tags as a given rule would be quite dangerous to trans people or gender-nonconforming people who are not out yet or not out in all of their life. Imagine getting a new job in a very prejudiced part of the world, for example, choosing to not come out as a way of protecting yourself, and then being faced to choose your pronouns for their nametag? Imagine kids who haven't come out to their parents yet but maybe their classmates getting their real pronouns 'leaked' in school documents? I don't know.
i know right, in that situation they might just lie about their pronouns and then have to get it changed later when they're ready (or if they're ever ready)
I guess you could change it though... But I think Jonathan expressed feelings about pronouns in an ideal world where everyone could be themselves from the get go rather than doing it today in our current world.
yeah i really hated how JVN couldn’t grasp that not everyone is privileged enough to not have to be closeted or questioning. it was so frustrated how he bascially suggested that closeted people out themselves or misgender themselves to appease his desire for ‘equality’
I think everyone really misunderstood Jonathans point, I felt they meant if we all knew about current open pronouns from birth, then when I was growing up I can understand and get to know what mine are, I wouldn't be fearful of some new label because it would be normal. It's like way back when we all picked out first email addresses or usernames terrified of who might see them or what they might say about us when in reality they are as changeable as our minds, as the weather, as our moods, they are almost time stamps of what felt important to me at that time, who I felt I was, I don't really see any difference! I felt what was said was to suggest that perhaps pronouns, given time, could be as normal as anything else, who said anything was set in stone!
I think Jonathan assumed in a world where everyone is already cool with pronouns and stuff. Like I think it's obviously that one shouldn't out themselves if it's not save.
Love how Antoni got to open up about his struggles with social anxiety and sexuality
bobby’s story about the taxi driver really hits home cause this show finally exposed my VERY christian grandma to the queer community, and it finally helped her accept my community, which was something i never imagined would happen. this show is so amazing
I LITERALLY AUDIBLY GASPED WHEN I SAW THIS WHAT IM SO EXCITED TO WATCH
"Because they're silly-silly silly-sillies" -- JVN. We love.
I think Johnathans job actually is pretty hard. Hair is an emotional thing. Your not just giving someone new hair. You are changing something about them that they have a deeply emotional connection to.
When jvn said “split me in half” about karamo I had the exact same reaction as Bobby. I love them so much ♥️
A lesbian would wear Tan's outfit. Specifically, *this* lesbian, but also other lesbians lol
As a lesbian, I would wear most tan’s outfit
The cloud vest is everything
I’m non-binary and androgynous and would also wear Tan’s outfit
Other lesbian here, can confirm 🤣
Tan’s fashion has no limitations
i’ve never watched this show but just from this video i feel like antoni is my spirit animal and genuinely want to watch it now
You neeeed to, it’s such a positive and motivational show
You so need to... The positivity they display in this video isn't half as much as what you'd get on the show (only because of air time)
You're missing out.
Have tissues ready even when you least expect it.
It's a sweet show. I enjoy their personalites as individuals and as a group. Also, watching them help different kinds of people is kinda touching. It shows that we are all struggling with something no matter who you are and what you look like.
These people and their dynamic is what really made me realize how badly I want a supportive queer friend group
You fully deserve one. Where do you live? ❤
@@natassjabasher a not so safe area, unfortunately. I won’t go into specifics here
@@JordanKaynMark hang in there. Online social connection is equally important!
I’m okay with online too but all my attempts have ended negatively. Finding people and groups is hard, even online. Almost feels like I need to go to some specific sort of casting call or something
The hug that Antoni and Tan do is just so cute- I- I can't- I wish that I had such support like that-
I'm really happy that they did more genuine spectrum questions by the end. I enjoyed the fun stuff at the beginning but the conversations were the best
Antoni’s smile makes me so happy 😭 literally a serotonin boost 😭
I love that they were able to have these open nuanced conversations about gender. This is the kind of supportive convos we need more of in media
I absolutely LOVE how extra Jonathan is 😂🤣
When asked the crush question I related so hard with Antoni. Being bi/pans etc. Having an attraction to both men and women, you appreciate their physical attractiveness, but not every hot person is someone you have a crush on. Idk if it's just me. Also, Bobby is a blessing I love him
I love this group of amazing people. The Fab Five honestly have done so much, I teared up towards the end hearing about how much of a difference they've made. I watch the show with my partner and friends all the time. What beautiful people they all are ♥♥
The back hugs every no and then melts me. The support they have for each other is so inspiring to see. Love them ❤
They should have at least had Karamo chose his answers & put a digital head of his choices or had a virtual video of him. 😔Makes me sad.
Why isn’t he in any of those shoes? I’ve been trying to figure it out
He had covid so they were probably just letting him rest.
I just love how all of them vibe together for real! I'm not even queer, merely an ally, but watching the show and seeing people today discuss things more openly and get interested in Queer Eye makes me so happy. My partner has a term for things that make us happy and fuzzy inside, it's "a warm, cozy blaket". So there you have it: Queer Eye is a warm cozy blanket of a show, and I'm always touched by it and the guys, and leave an episode feeling comforted.
I have always thought that Bobby's part must take so much more work and planning than the others, even though he probably has a design team behind him
the exact moment i actually fully accepted i was gay was when i watched an episode of queer eye where they transformed the gay pastor. they truly changed my life and helped me accept myself and couldn’t be more thankful
As a trans person I really like what they were saying about pronouns!! I’m from the south and there are kinda a lot of layers as to why it can be scary. I don’t think it’s fair to force trans people into essentially outing themselves when they’re not ready and it can also be very dangerous… just because something becomes “socially acceptable” in media doesn’t mean that there aren’t places where it’s still very different. I definitely think letting people know your pronouns is important and it needs to be normalized but that energy really needs to be directed at cis people. If it was standard practice with EVERYONE, not just trans people, then hell yeah! But we’re not there yet :/ I definitely get what Jonathan’s saying but, in my experience living in a little town in East Tennessee, misgendering only gets worse when I wear my pronoun pin. It takes away any chance I had at passing as cis and just gets more anger directed towards me in public so … I know it may be different in, you know, New York or LA, but people should keep in mind that the majority of us don’t have the luxury of being able to be ourselves without fear yet. And there are people who have to be closeted that would have to misgender themselves and ,,, yeah it’s a whoooole multi layered issue but I really appreciated tan and antoni and Bobby’s thoughts about it because I think it’s so often portrayed as a black and white issue when it’s not. Also antoni I’m free this weekend just so you know
I'm from India, and here things like sexuality and gender are just not known. I doubt people even in the "modern cities" know about the LGBTQ+ community. So of course having my pronouns on a "label" is scary to me. Even just having she/her as a label would make people raise eyebrows at me and ask me why I feel the need to reiterate that. I can't even imagine including they/them as of yet. We are millions of years away from acceptance here and a lot of times, I see westerners not being able to grasp just how difficult lives are for us out here.
I hope you get a chance to visit middle TN, especially Nashville. It’s a break from most of TN’s homophobia and transphobia, and you deserve to feel welcome where you are :) plenty of LGBTQ representation and public support from small businesses and general public, especially in east Nashville and green hills. TN is a very, very disappointing place politically (especially right now with the book banning), but Nashville can occasionally be a breath of fresh air, and you deserve that break :)
4:26 Bobby and Tan’s shade to that one person who sold the renovated apartment 👀
“You were in love with me for 2 seasons, cmon!” HAHAH
They caught me off guard for a second when they said “rest in peace Karamo” I was like “did I miss something?!” 😂
When it comes to pronouns, I don't think tags are always the best/safest option for many people. If trans and non-binary folks, for example, have to display their pronouns, they might be risking their safety or if they choose to remain safe, experience dysphoria
very true and I also think that it is not necessary to have everyone displaying their pronouns since around 99.8% of the population lives within the binary of either he/him and she/her so most of the time you can safely assume someone's pronouns just by looking at them, because there's a 99.8% chance you're right. In the 0.2% of cases when you're wrong they can let you know that they go by they/them.
@@allenp9173 how old are you?
thats how i felt too
@@allenp9173 That's very true, and in fact many trans people actually prefer to have people guess their pronouns by how they look, since that's the whole point of trying to pass, is to not have to have your identity come into question every time you pass someone on the street. (The whole "don't assume my gender" thing is made up). Of course there are also trans people who feel very differently about it, but the important thing is that IF someone shares their pronouns or corrects people on them, they should always be respected.
I love their chaotic energy. cried every single episode of the new season so far
In the show we don’t hear Bobby’s narrative often, so it was a delight to see his pov on certain topics.. He’s very thoughtful, caring and relatable, loved seeing this side of him
Everyone has pronouns. However, making pronouns mandatory at work or social functions is dangerous. That is demanding someone to out themselves and discounts potential dangers a person could face from others in their workplace and/or home life.
1:57, antoni was VERY passionate about what he was gonna say. WE’LL NEVER KNOW! So sad karamo was missing
“Willingness is not binary” - Antoni 👏👏👏
The way Bobby laughs at everything makes my heart melt truly.
This inspired me to have a very difficult conversation with my parents, it went very well and every one of us learnt many things. Thank you.
Congrats!
@@Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice Thank you ☀️
For the “gender isn’t important” question, they all somewhat agreed even though they went to strongly disagree. It’s all circumstantial, because gender does matter to trans people & in terms of sexual attraction in one’s orientation gender matters. It’s the societal gender norms they disagree with. Gender still matters but its importance has been inflated and too binary in society.
Exactly. It matters a lot, but way less than the weight that culture currently puts on it.
YOU ARE CHANGING THE WORLD!!! you have educated me on so many things I never would have been exposed to. I love the show. keep up all the great work :)
this is officially my favorite episode
I really respect Jonathan for holding to his opinions when it comes to pronouns
Yes!! I respect all of them for having this chat with respect with each other
He was kinda annoying in this video though
Even though I side more with the other guys’ opinion, I gotta respect someone who is willing to stand alone and firm in their place. Not a lot of people can remain true to their opinion alone against multiple opponents, I gotta respect them for that 👏🏻
@@sm2632 how so?
I don’t respect that they thought most other non-binary people would be able to relate to them
I’m nb and HEAVILY more in favor of the other guys’ opinions.
i love them and their friendship so much
Bobbbyyyy making me cry! They do make a difference. It's a beautiful show that brings real life change.
it's honestly so endearing to see antoni and tan drawn to each other like magnets whenever they were in the same line, it was so sweet 🥺
*I love Tanny so much! I'm so happy he's out here giving representing too all the brown/south/asian queer people!*
Yes Bobby 👏🏼 Gender SHOULDN’T be important. I’m glad you stuck your ground and explained your viewpoint
This makes sense now 🤣 I saw antoni outside of my job in NY and said hey and he completely just smiled and kept walking lol
I love how they all disagreed so respectfully ❤
This video just made my day (like any episode of the show does)!! Absolutely love them and what they have done to change people's lives. LOOOOVE Tan and Antoni they have the cutest cuddly friendship EVER. SOOO looking forward to watching the season in Germany!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Queer Eye is my comfort show, my safe space. Every time i feel the world is falling apart and my faith in humanity is getting lost, these 5 amazing people just make me think that maybe there is still hope. They make me so happy, i love them so much
Same, used to watch it with my Best friend. Usually both crying
This video is incredibly beautiful, I love how they have different opinions, respect each other and each other’s thoughts and can openly talk about and hear each other. This is why they are the fab 5 (I missed Karamo here), they encourage conversation. And this game does that too. Love love love ❤️
With the labels... I was really happy about that question and the conversation they had. Personally I believe very strongly (my personnel opinion, I'm in no way trying to force this opinion on anyone else
I'm so happy to see the fab 5 answering questions like this I've never seen them in anything outside of the show and its so nice to see them just being real like this especially on a channel I already watch
I didn't realize I could love these people any more than I already do but.. I was wrong. 😊 I was sad that Karamo was sick and missed being there.. would have been nice to hear from him as well. 😞 This has been a lovely way to get to know them better without invading their they're personal lives. Thank you!!
Tan and Antoni will always win my heart. Sweethearts, those two.
I love this Queer eye is a beautiful show I watch with my kids and they have learned a lot me too.
They resent and laugh at you when you're out of earshot.
@@FerretCuddles 🧢
@@FerretCuddles cry more, snowflake
@@DA-js7xz That's not how you use that meme, boomer/zoomer cowering behind an alt account.
@@FerretCuddles wtf are you talking about
Every single episode impacts me! (Most make me cry). Y'all should be SO PROUD of what you do
This show heals my heart. When I am having a hard time, I start watching them work their magic. I think a lot about what JVN said about how do we really always have to be the bigger person and he said you know what I think we do. I think about that a lot when I am in difficult situations where I don’t want to alienate myself from the person but still have convictions where the basis is human rights and bodily autonomy.
You guys are changing the world for sure. The people you work with, and the people who see your work are all learning and growing. You cannot overstate how valuable that is. People on your show have even said it. “I never thought I would meet or get along with gay people. I never knew anyone like you before”. That is HUGE. I love you all and everything you do for humanity. You bridge the gaps. You represent the best of the LGBTQ community and seek to help ALL people.
I can’t put into words how much I love them
I can't even begin to express, how much I absolutely adore, love, respect, and admire these five people. I love you all so much!
Umm where is Karamo??
I love his bromance with Tan
they explain at the end that he wasn't feeling well
1:56 i like how you can see antoni come into frame looking like he's gonna go off on a tangent but they just cut it out LMAO
They all inspire me so much but specifically Tan. I love him to bits and to see him finally in a place where he has a baby, a partner and where he seems to be happy gives me real hope for the world.
Just know we all love you and everything you’re doing for not only queer people but others too. Your helping families understand their kids and what they are going through and you’re the first show that I know of that is doing that.
Xoxo love you lots
How is no one talking about JVN’s crawl at 6:55??😭🙌🏼
IM SO HAPPY THEY DID THIS WITH QUEER EYE this show gives me so so much serotonin! It is truly so lovely and has made me cry on more than one occasion, great video :)
I love this group of men so much. Such a shining light and incredible examples of self-empowerment/growth.
JUBILEE & the FAB 5!
The collab I never knew I needed😍😍😍
Thank you Jubilee, you keep your watchers satisfied👌✌️
Why is Karamo always missing in these group events?
QTNA because he completes the group imho
He hasn't been doing any press for this season, I don't really know why. It's weird. They always talk about him though so it seems like there's no problem between them
They say he's been sick?
@@user-qu8zs7vs1x He was sick. They said it on Jimmy Fallon and their socials 💔
@@christystainer3741 yeah but the press tour has been going on for weeks and he's never there. hopefully it's nothing serious seen as he's been out of the press tour for more or less a month
I love how they love each other. They have and will continue to change the world. Bless them and keep them safe because we really need them. ❤️
Bobby is the wisest of the bunch (AND HAS THE HARDEST JOB lol)