I do not view Clark and Lana’s relationship as toxic at all. Their romance was tragic. They both loved each other and desperately wanted to be together. But because of Lana’s need for Clark to be honest with her due to her abandonment issues and Clark’s fears of rejection and putting Lana’s life in dangers, he couldn’t be honest with Lana. After they became young adults, they finally reached a point where they could open up and be honest with each other and they finally lived together as a couple. But because of Lana’s traumatic relationship with Lex, she was not the same Lana as before. Clark felt guilty because he felt it was his fault that she was with Lex. They were trying to work out their hurts but their time together were cut short by Lex’s wicked scheme. Lana’s decision to absorb the kryptonite to save Metropolis meant Clark and Lana could never be together again. All these extenuating circumstances made the Clark and Lana’s romance a tragic love story.
I do not view Clark and Lana’s relationship as toxic at all. Their romance was tragic. They both loved each other and desperately wanted to be together. But because of Lana’s need for Clark to be honest with her and Clark’s fears of rejection and putting Lana’s life in dangers, he couldn’t be honest with Lana. After 6 years, they finally reached a point where they could open up and be honest with each other and they finally became a couple. But after Lana’s traumatic relationship with Lex, she was not the same Lana as before. Clark felt guilty because he felt it was his fault that she was with Lex. They were trying to work out their hurts but their time together were cut short by Lex’s wicked scheme. Lana’s decision to absorb the kryptonite to save Metropolis meant Clark and Lana could never be together again. All these extenuating circumstances made the Clark and Lana’s romance a tragic love story.
Clois made sense because it's Lois & Clark, the legendary couple. Chlark made sense because Chloe was a Lana/Lois hybrid character and she and Clark were the Mulder and Scully of Smallville. Clana only made sense while Clark and Lana were in high school, but after high school ended it became an albatross around the neck of Smallville.
@@TheMiksonPLThen you obviously haven't read the comics, because Chloe Sullivan is way more like Lana in the comics than Kristin's Lana, who's Lana-in-name-only. Go read John Byrne's run on Superman from the 1980s. Kristin's Lana bears no resemblance to Lana in the comics. Chloe is much more like Lana, and she's also got a lot of Lois Lane in her. Alfred Gough and Miles Millar both said that Chloe was created to be a proto-Lois character and they even briefly considered having Chloe turn out to be Lois when they had her submit her articles to The Daily Planet under the pseudonym “Lois Lane."
@@iloveu172I know exactly what the creators said. The problem is that Chloe Sullivan is not just a proto-Lois, she's also a lot more like Lana from the comics. Kristin Kreuk's Lana bears no similarity to Lana from the comics whatsoever. She's more like a cross between Gwen Stacy and Catwoman. Lana is Clark's childhood best friend who also harboured a secret crush on him, and that's pretty much who Chloe is. Clark in the comics never acted like Lana was the love of his life, and he had no problem breaking up with her and leaving for Metropolis after high school ended.
Thank you! The problem with Clana wasn't just that it was toxic, it was also redundant. Lana Lang is not the woman that Clark is going to end up with. That woman is Lois Lane. The writers felt obligated to make Lana more important to Clark than any other female character while forgetting that Smallville was a story where the outcome was already predetermined, so Clana wasted the audience's time.
@@44excalibur Clana wasn’t redundant, it was intriguing and capted the audience unlike the others. That’s what was redundant it’s the same boring story of Clois who was out of place in SV.
@@iloveu172How was Clana intriguing and how exactly did it captivate the audience? The entire audience knows from Day 1 that Clark and Lana don't end up together, so what exactly justified having Lana take up so much importance? The problem with Lana is that they wrote her more like a stereotypical WB network dream girl character than the character she is in the comics. Chloe Sullivan is closer to what Lana is in the comics, and Chloe is also a reporter which made her the proto-Lois on the show. That's why Chloe and Lois made better leading ladies for Clark, because they were the ones always out there fighting the good fight side-by-side with Clark, while Lana was just the love interest who has little storyline other than being the object of everyone's affection, which made her a rather uninteresting character due to the fact that she had no motivation other than angst. That may be enough for a standard WB network teen drama, but it's not good enough for a Superman origin story, especially when the ending is already predetermined and everyone knows that Clark ends up with Lois and not Lana, hence Clana is redundant.
They were lowkey toxic yes but they were still my ship on smallville because that chemistry was just ~magical~ 💗 There were many flaws on the writing tho.
I disliked Lana from the beginning. She had a boyfriend, but still went on dates with Clark. Then Whitney has a major life crisis, and she turns around and complains that he doesn't trust her. Wow, really. How could it have happened. She was bad news from the beginning, and it's just Clark being an unreliable narrator that tricks people into shipping them. The writers also tell us: in one episode, she says to Clark she's afraid that she's not as good as he thinks she is. They also tell us that she doesn't really know/like Clark, as she's disgusted by him when she sees him on his red Metropolis run. Clark points that out to her. Even in the first three seasons, the writers give us plenty of hints why this isn't meant to be.
This video is silly and super surface. First of all, Lana's aunt literally left her to go and be with her boyfriend in Metropolis. She left her 16 year old niece with a family she didn't even know. The aunt didn't know Chloe or her father. She met Chloe one time when Lana lied and said she stayed at her house but she really was sleeping at the Talon. A 16 year old kid who was allowed out alone to sleep in a graveyard to be next to her parents. Her aunt never came looking for her. or scolded her, or put any kind of boundaries on her. The only time her aunt got involved was when Lana quit cheerleading. Aunt Nell was a HORRIBLE parent. Lana was abandoned the moment her parents died. Lana was forever searching for unconditional love. That's how Lex was able to groom her into becoming his wife and concubine. I mean why is a 20 something year old man so interested in these kids???? Lex started grooming Lana from 15 years old until he was able to marry her. I could literally do a dissertation on how everyone failed Lana. ESPECIALLY CLARK.
Yes the Clark and Lana relationship was quite redundant with the multiple back and forth. However, they are my favorite couple because of Tom and Kristin chemistry on screen. I can help but rooting for them even if it was not meant to work out.
I loved the video. I agree with you that Lana and Clark's relationship was really toxic, the ending literally took the toxicity to the physical. But I confess that I rooted for them from the beginning. In the fifth season (my favorite) they live this relationship, even with ups and downs, for 16 episodes. Unfortunately in the seventh season, when the veil is no longer over Clark's secret and they can be together for real, it seems like it's over, this relationship wouldn't work anymore. I just think that the producers made Lois and Clark fall in love too quickly, after so many seasons of not seeing each other that way. But once the relationship gets going, it's impossible not to root for and enjoy them both. Lois has been my favorite character since she arrived.
I do think they peppered things in there about Clark and Lois. Each season there was at least one encounter between them that had some chemistry. And by the eighth season Lois had fell for him and he was starting to care for her. It wasn’t as obvious as Clark and Lana, but I think it was there.
By S5 Clark already loved Lois. He'll lose someone he loves in Reckoning, and Chloe is fine, but Lois almost gets fried. He also notices her absence immediately, as in the original timeline all she does that evening is walk down the stairs and happily announce the election results, and when that doesn't happen, he immediately goes in search for her, saving her with seconds to spare. Lois likewise has feelings for him before, as for example in the prom episode, where she sends him off to dance with Lana and you can see her disappointment for a moment.
I weirdly liked Lex and Lana together, they have similar interests or at least are interested in learning about each others personal interests and able to really connect, but I’m only on the 4th season. But at the same time their friendship began when she was just a teenager and so it’s sorta feels like he was grooming her even if he didn’t do it consciously. he saw something in her that piqued his interest and probably payed more attention to her than was appropriate for someone his age. He was always looking out for her and basically always doing things to help her, but in an excessive way. I mean what “friend” buys someone an open ended ticket to Paris and even though he was urging Clark to go for it, I can see over time he started to like her, I’m currently where Lex fesses up to getting Jason fired. Lex definitely likes Lana even though she’s a teenager but unlike Jason knows to keep his distance because it’s wrong .. and illegal. So he waits.. until she’s legal 🤮 As far as Clana, I think to Clark, Lana is that crush you have growing up where you put them on a pedestal and think they can do no wrong, “they are perfect, and nothing can change that” . I don’t think they would’ve lasted because unlike Lois, Lana doesn’t challenge Clark, I’m not saying fighting is good, but when you have someone challenging you, it makes you think and CAN help you grow. With Lana, Clark just sat there like a puppy dog and if he had let her in on his secret earlier he would be at her beck and call and just be like “you’re perfect, I’ll do anything for you” but in that annoying way.
Yeah, he becomes much more manly and assertive with Lois. I think it starts at the end of S4, where the meteor shower hits at his graduation, and she starts freaking out, he just tells her to stop it, and she does. He anchors her with his strength, and she helps him build it. She's also often very sweet to him, doing things just to help him out, without an agenda.
@@floodgates182 he’s definitely more confrontational but she also comes on strong I just started season 4, but I have seen clips here and there from throughout the series mostly first 5 seasons so I know a little about the 2nd meteor shower and general zod. I don’t think I’ve seen any clips from after that except a few wedding day clips. But yes it’s healthy to have someone challenge you but I also think.. im old fashioned I like the guy to lead but I’m also a supporter of a strong independent woman, which Lois is,there’s a balance, the man can’t be a tyrant and the woman shouldn’t be a pushover .. you know? Also I think from what I’ve seen Lois is more grown up whereas with Lana.. Clark is more “I can’t live without you!😭” which is like so unhealthy. Though as a kid having seen a little bit of the show not alot ( mom was strict) I was such a Clana fan ( I refuse to use the word shipper unironically urgh)
@@mcnoneya Well, if you like a guy to lead, you'll love Clois and hate Clana. Because Lana always thinks she's more mature than him (I've waited for you to grow up), and he always ends up dancing after her tune because he's insecure. Lois loves him as he is, the whole plaid thing and all, and that gives him the confidence to assert himself. Because Lois doesn't punish him with withdrawal if he pushes back. Quite the opposite, she thinks it's funny when he does, basically encouraging him. So by S8 he finally starts to act like a man instead of a wet washcloth, at least until that unfortunate wedding, where he returns to being a wet washcloth again for a handful of episodes.
Their relationship was super toxic & the blame goes to the writers for being so obsessed with Lana that they turned her into a selfish, shallow, self-centered, narcissistic, cold hearted bitch. And I'm being nice here they made Clark put Lana on a pedestal everyone else is wrong & he makes everyone including his parents own up to what they did or he calls them out. But Lana is always right she can do no wrong in his eyes I'm thinking Clark is going to build a statue of Lana & make human sacrifices to her because they made him such a simp it was ridiculous. Chloe, Pete & later Lois were always calling Clark out especially Chloe because she knows Clark better than anyone then Lois came along & also didn't take any crap from Clark. Lana kept hurting people she was obsessed with Clark telling her his secret she went to great lengths to get it out of him. She nearly killed Chloe, Lois, Lex, Lionel & even Clark I was furious that when the town was in turmoil & Lana lost her bf Jason she & Clark kissed each other at the hospital. I was like "Are you kidding me? First Lana shows a huge disrespect for her last bf Whitney at his dad's funeral by her & Clark staring longingly at each other & now this?" Clark & Lana know nothing about each other so much that Lana couldn't tell the difference between Bizarro Clark & the real Clark when she slept with Bizarro & when Chloe tried to tell Lana that Clark was acting weird Lana acted like she knew Clark better than Chloe but the truth is she didn't know Clark at all. Even Lois knew Clark was acting off after staying with the Kents for some time Lois even knew where Clark kept his Elmer Fudd night light. Clark was crushed when he found out that Lana pretty much cheated on him Clark always knew deep down Lana wasn't the one for him he was just trying to hold onto something that wasn't meant to be & other people kept telling him that but he ignored them. When Lois came onto the scene she was a breath of fresh air & Clark didn't know what to make of her as time went on Lois grew on him so much that he got jealous every time Lois was out with another guy especially Arthur Curry & Oliver Queen. What Lana & Clark had wasn't love they were in love with the idea of each other also Lana didn't want Clark out there saving lives after she learned about his powers she wanted to isolate him from his friends. Oliver called him out on staying home living a domestic life while the world is in danger Oliver wasn't all that fond of Lana. He, Arthur, Bart & Victor adored the hell out of Chloe. And don't get me started on when Clark reversed time to save Lana when she was killed trying to get away from Lex in exchange for her life his dad Jonathan lost his. I personally think Martha was secretly angry at what Clark did she would never say it out loud to make Clark feel even worse but she was seething that he keeps putting Lana above everything & everyone else. And when Alicia Baker came on the scene Clark was really happy but everyone labeled her a freak because of her powers & that she tried to kill Lana Alicia even apologized for what she did but it wasn't enough. Alicia then gets framed & murdered & Clark is the one to find her hung in her own barn now how heartbreaking is that? And Clark was racked with fury that he almost took a life if Lois hadn't shown up then we see Clark standing at her grave looking devastated it also didn't help matters that Alicia wanted Clark to tell everyone about his powers but he told her he couldn't Alica was hurt & upset she didn't know Clark was an alien she even showed Chloe what Clark could do by faking her car being out of control. Alicia was wrong in trying to force Clark to reveal himself it's just sad she lost her life. It was in seasons 7 to the end of the show that Clark finally realized that he & Lana weren't meant to be & he moved on. Sorry for the page but I had to get my point across as to why Lana & Clark weren't right for each other if the writers really wanted to make Kristin's Lana likable then watch Superman 3 where Annette O'Toole who play Martha actually played Lana in the movie with Christoper Reeve. Now her Lana was very likable this Lana was beautiful, kind, caring, sweet, smart & she liked Clark for Clark. Now that's the Lana Kristin's should've been my favorite scene was at the end when Lois sees the big diamond ring on Lana's finger, she compliments on it & in a sweet & smug way Lana told Lois Clark gave it to her. And Lois is like "WTF? Clark gave you this big ass rock?" I think Clark may have told Lana a bit of how Lois treated him at work lol, so Lana decides to rub it in Lois's face.
I love Clana. She was never meant to be his endgame, but their chemistry was too good and it was the writers that ruined them. I wish they just had them be a loving, affectionate couple that amicably grew apart as they entered new stages in their lives. Honestly besides the fact that they had great chemistry, I have no idea what Clark and Lana actually liked about each other. It was the writers who never really let us see their personalities or how they operated as a healthy couple. Those moments were brief and far between. They could’ve created drama and angst in other ways, but that’s not the WB/CW’s MO. If we were Lana’s friend we would’ve told her to stay clear of Clark TBH. He jekylled and Hyded her a lot due to red K. He loved her but was also definitely in love with the idea of her. He should’ve handled his secret differently. I know he was afraid of rejection, especially since he felt guilty about “killing” her parents. Clark should’ve just said “ yes I have a secret. I still love you, but right now I can’t share it. Please be patient with me and hopefully one day I will feel comfortable sharing.” Clark made a lot of mistakes with Lana that benefited his next relationship. The man had a lot of growing up to due. Lana needed love, affection and physical intimacy. Sometimes Clark was cold on most of those fronts. Also the writers did Lana dirty a lot. She needs lots of therapy. Everyone abandons her or is obsessed and wants to kill her. Clark changes his mind like his underwear. The writers put her through the wringer. Most of us would be broken if we went through what she’s gone through. I appreciate your video, but Tom and Kristen’s chemistry will always take the cake for me even though they are low key toxic.
@@thecleaner94 But the writers didn't ruin them, the writers used the Lana Clark relationship as a metaphor for his Pinocchio dream of being a real boy, which is why it's full of lies and selfishness, and loneliness and fear. Lois represents the hero dream, which is why with her he's relaxed and funny, more authentically himself, and why he gets a fruitful and sexual relationship with her.
@@floodgates182interesting take that I’ve never heard before. I’m curious about how you feel about Clark giving up his powers and living with Lois on the farm in that cameo Tom and Erica did for Arrowverse episode
@@thecleaner94 Lol, I felt it was mighty irresponsible of Clark, given the amount of random alien threats that are raining down on earth every week in Smallville. I don't think it's a logical continuation from the story we heard in Smallville, because it's his little boy dream, whereas his big boy dream, he states in S10 is "this. With you, Lois." So he's gone backwards again. Then again, having little kids complicates life enormously, but seeing as they're his kids, you could expect them to be similarly resilient. There is a hint of that though in the episode with his FIL, when Sam Lane communicates his regrets about his life. But ultimately, it's not in line with the big destiny that the legion arc hinted at, so it felt kinda off to me in total.
I loved clana and I loved Clois! But Clark could never fully trust Lana (who had high key trust issues/abandoment issues from everyone leaving her in her life) with his secret because he was so afraid of her reaction. And I love them both as characters and the actors are fine as hell but these poor babies would never fully work because they didn't trust each other. Clark always held lana on a pedestal and Lana always demanded honesty from clark who just couldn't be open with her. And that the sad thing they were always a little bit mistrustful of the other. Without trust a relationship is doomed to fail everytime. Also for clois, i did love their slowburn from frenemies to friends to lovers plotline. It worked out well. Clark really needed to get over lana becuase this man idolized her since he was 6. And it took a supersuit of toxic Kryptionite before they could finally pull the plug on them forever. In my opionion the storyline was tragic just like clana's love. And I loved every second of it because it led the way for clois.
@@LavallaisPictures I agree that it can feel like Clark only chose Lois because Lana wasn't there anymore. I think the writers wanted to have the theme that Clana could never really be happy in a relationship becuase something would always get in the way. Clois is always endgame no matter what so i think in the eyes of the writers it didn't matter why and how clana broke up for the final time.
Chloé worked with bizzaro and Bizarro saved her and Jimmy in the elevator, Chloe saw it wasn’t Clark only at the end of the second episode because he was agressive with her, not like after 2 minutes like you said 🙄. he didn’t do that with Lana. Your videos is just crap and pro Clois . Lois was demeaning by default about Clark, Lois was obsessed with the Oliver secret and was a mole with Clark all along the show , when she knew , she was the obsessed, immature. The Prometheus has nothing to do with Lex , Lex wanted to kill Lex with it and it’s her predestination of superwoman like in the comics. She gave up her revenge against Lex earlier in the first episode of S7. You really need to rewatch the show 😬
Exactly. I never saw Clana as toxic at all. I always thought their romance was a tragic love story. They both loved each other and desperately wanted to be together. But because of Lana’s need for Clark to be honest with her due to her abandonment issues and Clark’s fears of rejection and putting Lana’s life in dangers, he couldn’t be honest with Lana. After 6 years, they finally reached a point where they could open up and be honest with each other and they finally became a couple. But after Lana’s traumatic relationship with Lex, she was not the same Lana as before. Clark felt guilty because he felt it was his fault that she was with Lex. They were trying to work out their hurts but their time together were cut short by Lex’s wicked scheme. Lana’s decision to absorb the kryptonite to save Metropolis meant Clark and Lana could never be together again. All these extenuating circumstances made the Clark and Lana’s romance a tragic love story.
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I do not view Clark and Lana’s relationship as toxic at all. Their romance was tragic. They both loved each other and desperately wanted to be together. But because of Lana’s need for Clark to be honest with her due to her abandonment issues and Clark’s fears of rejection and putting Lana’s life in dangers, he couldn’t be honest with Lana. After they became young adults, they finally reached a point where they could open up and be honest with each other and they finally lived together as a couple. But because of Lana’s traumatic relationship with Lex, she was not the same Lana as before. Clark felt guilty because he felt it was his fault that she was with Lex. They were trying to work out their hurts but their time together were cut short by Lex’s wicked scheme. Lana’s decision to absorb the kryptonite to save Metropolis meant Clark and Lana could never be together again. All these extenuating circumstances made the Clark and Lana’s romance a tragic love story.
I do not view Clark and Lana’s relationship as toxic at all. Their romance was tragic. They both loved each other and desperately wanted to be together. But because of Lana’s need for Clark to be honest with her and Clark’s fears of rejection and putting Lana’s life in dangers, he couldn’t be honest with Lana. After 6 years, they finally reached a point where they could open up and be honest with each other and they finally became a couple. But after Lana’s traumatic relationship with Lex, she was not the same Lana as before. Clark felt guilty because he felt it was his fault that she was with Lex. They were trying to work out their hurts but their time together were cut short by Lex’s wicked scheme. Lana’s decision to absorb the kryptonite to save Metropolis meant Clark and Lana could never be together again. All these extenuating circumstances made the Clark and Lana’s romance a tragic love story.
Clois made sense because it's Lois & Clark, the legendary couple. Chlark made sense because Chloe was a Lana/Lois hybrid character and she and Clark were the Mulder and Scully of Smallville. Clana only made sense while Clark and Lana were in high school, but after high school ended it became an albatross around the neck of Smallville.
Sorry, but "Chloe was a Lana/Lois hybrid" is literally the biggest bullshit I have ever read when it comes to Smallville.
@@TheMiksonPLThen you obviously haven't read the comics, because Chloe Sullivan is way more like Lana in the comics than Kristin's Lana, who's Lana-in-name-only. Go read John Byrne's run on Superman from the 1980s. Kristin's Lana bears no resemblance to Lana in the comics. Chloe is much more like Lana, and she's also got a lot of Lois Lane in her. Alfred Gough and Miles Millar both said that Chloe was created to be a proto-Lois character and they even briefly considered having Chloe turn out to be Lois when they had her submit her articles to The Daily Planet under the pseudonym “Lois Lane."
@@44excalibur no the creators said that Chloe was the proto Lois. Nothing to do with Lana
@@iloveu172I know exactly what the creators said. The problem is that Chloe Sullivan is not just a proto-Lois, she's also a lot more like Lana from the comics. Kristin Kreuk's Lana bears no similarity to Lana from the comics whatsoever. She's more like a cross between Gwen Stacy and Catwoman. Lana is Clark's childhood best friend who also harboured a secret crush on him, and that's pretty much who Chloe is. Clark in the comics never acted like Lana was the love of his life, and he had no problem breaking up with her and leaving for Metropolis after high school ended.
Thank you! The problem with Clana wasn't just that it was toxic, it was also redundant. Lana Lang is not the woman that Clark is going to end up with. That woman is Lois Lane. The writers felt obligated to make Lana more important to Clark than any other female character while forgetting that Smallville was a story where the outcome was already predetermined, so Clana wasted the audience's time.
@@44excalibur Clana wasn’t redundant, it was intriguing and capted the audience unlike the others. That’s what was redundant it’s the same boring story of Clois who was out of place in SV.
@@iloveu172How was Clana intriguing and how exactly did it captivate the audience? The entire audience knows from Day 1 that Clark and Lana don't end up together, so what exactly justified having Lana take up so much importance? The problem with Lana is that they wrote her more like a stereotypical WB network dream girl character than the character she is in the comics. Chloe Sullivan is closer to what Lana is in the comics, and Chloe is also a reporter which made her the proto-Lois on the show. That's why Chloe and Lois made better leading ladies for Clark, because they were the ones always out there fighting the good fight side-by-side with Clark, while Lana was just the love interest who has little storyline other than being the object of everyone's affection, which made her a rather uninteresting character due to the fact that she had no motivation other than angst. That may be enough for a standard WB network teen drama, but it's not good enough for a Superman origin story, especially when the ending is already predetermined and everyone knows that Clark ends up with Lois and not Lana, hence Clana is redundant.
They were lowkey toxic yes but they were still my ship on smallville because that chemistry was just ~magical~ 💗
There were many flaws on the writing tho.
I disliked Lana from the beginning. She had a boyfriend, but still went on dates with Clark. Then Whitney has a major life crisis, and she turns around and complains that he doesn't trust her.
Wow, really. How could it have happened.
She was bad news from the beginning, and it's just Clark being an unreliable narrator that tricks people into shipping them.
The writers also tell us: in one episode, she says to Clark she's afraid that she's not as good as he thinks she is. They also tell us that she doesn't really know/like Clark, as she's disgusted by him when she sees him on his red Metropolis run. Clark points that out to her. Even in the first three seasons, the writers give us plenty of hints why this isn't meant to be.
Low-key toxic in the first two seasons IMO. After that, it was just "in-your-face" unbearable to watch.
“High key” toxic. They are tiring!!!! There are toxic couples that work on tv shows, CLANA didnt because they don’t have chemistry at all.
This video is silly and super surface. First of all, Lana's aunt literally left her to go and be with her boyfriend in Metropolis. She left her 16 year old niece with a family she didn't even know. The aunt didn't know Chloe or her father. She met Chloe one time when Lana lied and said she stayed at her house but she really was sleeping at the Talon. A 16 year old kid who was allowed out alone to sleep in a graveyard to be next to her parents. Her aunt never came looking for her. or scolded her, or put any kind of boundaries on her. The only time her aunt got involved was when Lana quit cheerleading. Aunt Nell was a HORRIBLE parent. Lana was abandoned the moment her parents died. Lana was forever searching for unconditional love. That's how Lex was able to groom her into becoming his wife and concubine. I mean why is a 20 something year old man so interested in these kids???? Lex started grooming Lana from 15 years old until he was able to marry her. I could literally do a dissertation on how everyone failed Lana. ESPECIALLY CLARK.
Yes the Clark and Lana relationship was quite redundant with the multiple back and forth. However, they are my favorite couple because of Tom and Kristin chemistry on screen. I can help but rooting for them even if it was not meant to work out.
I loved the video. I agree with you that Lana and Clark's relationship was really toxic, the ending literally took the toxicity to the physical. But I confess that I rooted for them from the beginning. In the fifth season (my favorite) they live this relationship, even with ups and downs, for 16 episodes. Unfortunately in the seventh season, when the veil is no longer over Clark's secret and they can be together for real, it seems like it's over, this relationship wouldn't work anymore. I just think that the producers made Lois and Clark fall in love too quickly, after so many seasons of not seeing each other that way. But once the relationship gets going, it's impossible not to root for and enjoy them both. Lois has been my favorite character since she arrived.
I do think they peppered things in there about Clark and Lois. Each season there was at least one encounter between them that had some chemistry. And by the eighth season Lois had fell for him and he was starting to care for her. It wasn’t as obvious as Clark and Lana, but I think it was there.
By S5 Clark already loved Lois. He'll lose someone he loves in Reckoning, and Chloe is fine, but Lois almost gets fried. He also notices her absence immediately, as in the original timeline all she does that evening is walk down the stairs and happily announce the election results, and when that doesn't happen, he immediately goes in search for her, saving her with seconds to spare.
Lois likewise has feelings for him before, as for example in the prom episode, where she sends him off to dance with Lana and you can see her disappointment for a moment.
I weirdly liked Lex and Lana together, they have similar interests or at least are interested in learning about each others personal interests and able to really connect, but I’m only on the 4th season. But at the same time their friendship began when she was just a teenager and so it’s sorta feels like he was grooming her even if he didn’t do it consciously. he saw something in her that piqued his interest and probably payed more attention to her than was appropriate for someone his age. He was always looking out for her and basically always doing things to help her, but in an excessive way. I mean what “friend” buys someone an open ended ticket to Paris and even though he was urging Clark to go for it, I can see over time he started to like her, I’m currently where Lex fesses up to getting Jason fired. Lex definitely likes Lana even though she’s a teenager but unlike Jason knows to keep his distance because it’s wrong .. and illegal. So he waits.. until she’s legal 🤮
As far as Clana, I think to Clark, Lana is that crush you have growing up where you put them on a pedestal and think they can do no wrong, “they are perfect, and nothing can change that” . I don’t think they would’ve lasted because unlike Lois, Lana doesn’t challenge Clark, I’m not saying fighting is good, but when you have someone challenging you, it makes you think and CAN help you grow. With Lana, Clark just sat there like a puppy dog and if he had let her in on his secret earlier he would be at her beck and call and just be like “you’re perfect, I’ll do anything for you” but in that annoying way.
Yeah, he becomes much more manly and assertive with Lois. I think it starts at the end of S4, where the meteor shower hits at his graduation, and she starts freaking out, he just tells her to stop it, and she does. He anchors her with his strength, and she helps him build it.
She's also often very sweet to him, doing things just to help him out, without an agenda.
@@floodgates182 he’s definitely more confrontational but she also comes on strong I just started season 4, but I have seen clips here and there from throughout the series mostly first 5 seasons so I know a little about the 2nd meteor shower and general zod. I don’t think I’ve seen any clips from after that except a few wedding day clips.
But yes it’s healthy to have someone challenge you but I also think.. im old fashioned I like the guy to lead but I’m also a supporter of a strong independent woman, which Lois is,there’s a balance, the man can’t be a tyrant and the woman shouldn’t be a pushover .. you know? Also I think from what I’ve seen Lois is more grown up whereas with Lana.. Clark is more “I can’t live without you!😭” which is like so unhealthy. Though as a kid having seen a little bit of the show not alot ( mom was strict) I was such a Clana fan ( I refuse to use the word shipper unironically urgh)
@@mcnoneya Well, if you like a guy to lead, you'll love Clois and hate Clana. Because Lana always thinks she's more mature than him (I've waited for you to grow up), and he always ends up dancing after her tune because he's insecure.
Lois loves him as he is, the whole plaid thing and all, and that gives him the confidence to assert himself. Because Lois doesn't punish him with withdrawal if he pushes back. Quite the opposite, she thinks it's funny when he does, basically encouraging him.
So by S8 he finally starts to act like a man instead of a wet washcloth, at least until that unfortunate wedding, where he returns to being a wet washcloth again for a handful of episodes.
team clois
Their relationship was super toxic & the blame goes to the writers for being so obsessed with Lana that they turned her into a selfish, shallow, self-centered, narcissistic, cold hearted bitch. And I'm being nice here they made Clark put Lana on a pedestal everyone else is wrong & he makes everyone including his parents own up to what they did or he calls them out. But Lana is always right she can do no wrong in his eyes I'm thinking Clark is going to build a statue of Lana & make human sacrifices to her because they made him such a simp it was ridiculous. Chloe, Pete & later Lois were always calling Clark out especially Chloe because she knows Clark better than anyone then Lois came along & also didn't take any crap from Clark. Lana kept hurting people she was obsessed with Clark telling her his secret she went to great lengths to get it out of him. She nearly killed Chloe, Lois, Lex, Lionel & even Clark I was furious that when the town was in turmoil & Lana lost her bf Jason she & Clark kissed each other at the hospital. I was like "Are you kidding me? First Lana shows a huge disrespect for her last bf Whitney at his dad's funeral by her & Clark staring longingly at each other & now this?" Clark & Lana know nothing about each other so much that Lana couldn't tell the difference between Bizarro Clark & the real Clark when she slept with Bizarro & when Chloe tried to tell Lana that Clark was acting weird Lana acted like she knew Clark better than Chloe but the truth is she didn't know Clark at all. Even Lois knew Clark was acting off after staying with the Kents for some time Lois even knew where Clark kept his Elmer Fudd night light. Clark was crushed when he found out that Lana pretty much cheated on him Clark always knew deep down Lana wasn't the one for him he was just trying to hold onto something that wasn't meant to be & other people kept telling him that but he ignored them. When Lois came onto the scene she was a breath of fresh air & Clark didn't know what to make of her as time went on Lois grew on him so much that he got jealous every time Lois was out with another guy especially Arthur Curry & Oliver Queen. What Lana & Clark had wasn't love they were in love with the idea of each other also Lana didn't want Clark out there saving lives after she learned about his powers she wanted to isolate him from his friends. Oliver called him out on staying home living a domestic life while the world is in danger Oliver wasn't all that fond of Lana. He, Arthur, Bart & Victor adored the hell out of Chloe. And don't get me started on when Clark reversed time to save Lana when she was killed trying to get away from Lex in exchange for her life his dad Jonathan lost his. I personally think Martha was secretly angry at what Clark did she would never say it out loud to make Clark feel even worse but she was seething that he keeps putting Lana above everything & everyone else. And when Alicia Baker came on the scene Clark was really happy but everyone labeled her a freak because of her powers & that she tried to kill Lana Alicia even apologized for what she did but it wasn't enough. Alicia then gets framed & murdered & Clark is the one to find her hung in her own barn now how heartbreaking is that? And Clark was racked with fury that he almost took a life if Lois hadn't shown up then we see Clark standing at her grave looking devastated it also didn't help matters that Alicia wanted Clark to tell everyone about his powers but he told her he couldn't Alica was hurt & upset she didn't know Clark was an alien she even showed Chloe what Clark could do by faking her car being out of control. Alicia was wrong in trying to force Clark to reveal himself it's just sad she lost her life. It was in seasons 7 to the end of the show that Clark finally realized that he & Lana weren't meant to be & he moved on. Sorry for the page but I had to get my point across as to why Lana & Clark weren't right for each other if the writers really wanted to make Kristin's Lana likable then watch Superman 3 where Annette O'Toole who play Martha actually played Lana in the movie with Christoper Reeve. Now her Lana was very likable this Lana was beautiful, kind, caring, sweet, smart & she liked Clark for Clark. Now that's the Lana Kristin's should've been my favorite scene was at the end when Lois sees the big diamond ring on Lana's finger, she compliments on it & in a sweet & smug way Lana told Lois Clark gave it to her. And Lois is like "WTF? Clark gave you this big ass rock?" I think Clark may have told Lana a bit of how Lois treated him at work lol, so Lana decides to rub it in Lois's face.
I love Clana. She was never meant to be his endgame, but their chemistry was too good and it was the writers that ruined them. I wish they just had them be a loving, affectionate couple that amicably grew apart as they entered new stages in their lives. Honestly besides the fact that they had great chemistry, I have no idea what Clark and Lana actually liked about each other. It was the writers who never really let us see their personalities or how they operated as a healthy couple. Those moments were brief and far between. They could’ve created drama and angst in other ways, but that’s not the WB/CW’s MO. If we were Lana’s friend we would’ve told her to stay clear of Clark TBH. He jekylled and Hyded her a lot due to red K. He loved her but was also definitely in love with the idea of her. He should’ve handled his secret differently. I know he was afraid of rejection, especially since he felt guilty about “killing” her parents. Clark should’ve just said “ yes I have a secret. I still love you, but right now I can’t share it. Please be patient with me and hopefully one day I will feel comfortable sharing.” Clark made a lot of mistakes with Lana that benefited his next relationship. The man had a lot of growing up to due. Lana needed love, affection and physical intimacy. Sometimes Clark was cold on most of those fronts. Also the writers did Lana dirty a lot. She needs lots of therapy. Everyone abandons her or is obsessed and wants to kill her. Clark changes his mind like his underwear. The writers put her through the wringer. Most of us would be broken if we went through what she’s gone through. I appreciate your video, but Tom and Kristen’s chemistry will always take the cake for me even though they are low key toxic.
@@thecleaner94 But the writers didn't ruin them, the writers used the Lana Clark relationship as a metaphor for his Pinocchio dream of being a real boy, which is why it's full of lies and selfishness, and loneliness and fear.
Lois represents the hero dream, which is why with her he's relaxed and funny, more authentically himself, and why he gets a fruitful and sexual relationship with her.
@@floodgates182interesting take that I’ve never heard before. I’m curious about how you feel about Clark giving up his powers and living with Lois on the farm in that cameo Tom and Erica did for Arrowverse episode
@@thecleaner94 Lol, I felt it was mighty irresponsible of Clark, given the amount of random alien threats that are raining down on earth every week in Smallville. I don't think it's a logical continuation from the story we heard in Smallville, because it's his little boy dream, whereas his big boy dream, he states in S10 is "this. With you, Lois." So he's gone backwards again. Then again, having little kids complicates life enormously, but seeing as they're his kids, you could expect them to be similarly resilient. There is a hint of that though in the episode with his FIL, when Sam Lane communicates his regrets about his life. But ultimately, it's not in line with the big destiny that the legion arc hinted at, so it felt kinda off to me in total.
I loved clana and I loved Clois! But Clark could never fully trust Lana (who had high key trust issues/abandoment issues from everyone leaving her in her life) with his secret because he was so afraid of her reaction. And I love them both as characters and the actors are fine as hell but these poor babies would never fully work because they didn't trust each other. Clark always held lana on a pedestal and Lana always demanded honesty from clark who just couldn't be open with her.
And that the sad thing they were always a little bit mistrustful of the other. Without trust a relationship is doomed to fail everytime.
Also for clois, i did love their slowburn from frenemies to friends to lovers plotline. It worked out well. Clark really needed to get over lana becuase this man idolized her since he was 6. And it took a supersuit of toxic Kryptionite before they could finally pull the plug on them forever. In my opionion the storyline was tragic just like clana's love. And I loved every second of it because it led the way for clois.
But I really hate that they forced them a part with the supersuit. I wanted him to choose Lois over Lana. Or at least choose to leave Lana on his own.
@@LavallaisPictures I agree that it can feel like Clark only chose Lois because Lana wasn't there anymore. I think the writers wanted to have the theme that Clana could never really be happy in a relationship becuase something would always get in the way. Clois is always endgame no matter what so i think in the eyes of the writers it didn't matter why and how clana broke up for the final time.
Chloé worked with bizzaro and Bizarro saved her and Jimmy in the elevator, Chloe saw it wasn’t Clark only at the end of the second episode because he was agressive with her, not like after 2 minutes like you said 🙄. he didn’t do that with Lana.
Your videos is just crap and pro Clois . Lois was demeaning by default about Clark, Lois was obsessed with the Oliver secret and was a mole with Clark all along the show , when she knew , she was the obsessed, immature.
The Prometheus has nothing to do with Lex , Lex wanted to kill Lex with it and it’s her predestination of superwoman like in the comics. She gave up her revenge against Lex earlier in the first episode of S7.
You really need to rewatch the show 😬
Exactly. I never saw Clana as toxic at all. I always thought their romance was a tragic love story. They both loved each other and desperately wanted to be together. But because of Lana’s need for Clark to be honest with her due to her abandonment issues and Clark’s fears of rejection and putting Lana’s life in dangers, he couldn’t be honest with Lana. After 6 years, they finally reached a point where they could open up and be honest with each other and they finally became a couple. But after Lana’s traumatic relationship with Lex, she was not the same Lana as before. Clark felt guilty because he felt it was his fault that she was with Lex. They were trying to work out their hurts but their time together were cut short by Lex’s wicked scheme. Lana’s decision to absorb the kryptonite to save Metropolis meant Clark and Lana could never be together again. All these extenuating circumstances made the Clark and Lana’s romance a tragic love story.
Clana forever. Clois is trash