Tom and Tom are like watching dumb and dumber sometimes. Even if they’re saying things that make sense, one of them is like “squirrel” and the other one is explaining things like a 16 year old boy would lol
They’re ALL over 30 and act 16. No clue why anyone continues to watch it. Same story line since the beginning. Just middle school drama. Bunch of selfish entitled adults who legitimately act like they’re in middle school. It’s embarrassing. I see clips like this and just beyond embarrassed they’re still doing this.
And the people not involved at all just “friends” act like they deserved to know every secret and detail. Some of these people have KIDS. They argue about things KIDS do. Sums up our society with this show and why it’s still on.
Then Scando reprimanding him like “dood, we are here to film a show.” Uuuuuh, do you mean the same show that Shorts says production has to lie and give Scando early time calls for because he is chronically late?! This man has so much egg on his face that he is a walking representation of “this is what your brain looks like on drugs.”🥴🤣🤣
Sandoval said during the reunion that he and Ariana weren't putting themselves out there for years but now the reason he's mad at Lala is because she wasn't putting herself out there for the show for years while the rest of them were. What?
this is what narcissist do they twist everything around to get the attention off of their horrible behavior. It's called narcissist blame shifting, pity me manipulation, gas lighting etc. they play lots of mind games.
@@CheribabyTx connnect the dots. Lala dated then married a very manipulative narcissist man who sucked her into his con game. These types of men (or woman) can suck anyone and everyone into their con game. Sandervol has a lot a traits of a narcissist. He dated & was a serial cheater on Kristin. Then created a "narcissistic smear campaign" (lookup) against Kristin. then he was a serial cheater on Ariana. And, during the 7 month affair was creating a narcissist smear campaign against Ariana. Lala sees lots of narcissist traits with Tom because she was in a emotional &mentally abusive relationship with her ex.
He’s the perpetual victim. Narcs or people with NPD (in my experience) never accept responsibility. They somehow always manage to make themselves so hard done by in every situation they cause. It’s exhausting, it’s like a mental block, they just don’t get it.
@@georginaohara42 well it is bizarre his whole friend group and the bravo public treated him like he murdered someone. The story was on CNN. It was out of proportion. And Sheana is struggling now because she knows it’s not black and white, people are not evil villains but humans who make mistakes. And he cheated on Ariana, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t a friend to others. Ariana try to block him from everyone and it’s high school.
@@georginaohara42 it’s also hypocritical since other people cheated. James cheated with Lala on Rachel. Ariana cheated with Tom on Kristen. Sheana had an affair with a taken man. Lala as well. Jax cheated. Kristen cheated. Schwartz was kissing strangers while he was with Katie. So why is this so much different..
They keep it going despite the extreme dysfunction and pain, they continue to do it for the fame (a false reality by the way) and for the money. For themselves, for the show.
lmao you do know this is a job, right? Theyre making a ton of money. Theyre celebrities. Hit tv shows are like lightning striking. Its not gonna happen again for them.
Sandovals tone is always 10times more aggressive towards women, in interviews, on the show , than men. It’s disgusting how we continue to allow him be openly hostile to an entire gender on a public platform
Schwartz, like everyone else, only wants to hear "I'm sorry"...period...no "but". Yes, they've all cheated or done this or done that, but Tom needs to stop trying to "make them even" and just say SORRY.
Lmao I was just thinking this when he started texting and he gave him the side eye… we’re filming a show bro…. In reality all these people. Wanted to be actors, but settled for this so. That irony makes twice as funny 😂
No, she wants an apology from Sandoval because he was targeting her when he was doing that shady thing behind Ariana's back. Please don't bring up Lala's past mistakes since she has been apologetic about them continuously. Sandoval never takes accountability for his actions. Moreover, Lala has learned from her mistakes, so she is the best person to advise Sandoval on how to do things.
No, she wants an apology from Sandoval because he was targeting her when he was doing that shady thing behind Ariana's back. Please don't bring up Lala's past mistakes since she has been apologetic about them continuously. Sandoval never takes accountability for his actions. Moreover, Lala has learned from her mistakes, so she is the best person to advise Sandoval on how to do things.
Idc if I get dragged … AGAIN. Why oh whyyyyy is Scheana riding SO HARD for Sandoval?! 😂 AFTER his team tried to drag Brock?! Girl … he AINT YOUR FRIEND. 🫣😭🤣
Its bc when the show first spun off RHOBH Scheana was the home wrecking mistress. None of the girls would b caught dead being her friend during filming or IRL. When the show's premiere had it's "red carpet" event, no one from the cast would stand with Scheana for photos, except for Sandoval. He was the only one to stand and embrace her for the earliest sponsored press coverage of VPR. Just saying, if u kno u kno
Yeah he was!! Katie put up with alot with Schwartz... He is so immature and has Sandoval in his ear all the time! Katie is better off without either Tom imo
Sandevil was so nasty to Katie in front of Schwartz constantly while they were married, and Schwartz said nothing. I truly believe it was a big factor in the demise.
@@Roz-y2d you realize that’s a bad instinct you’re supposed to be working on to not do as an adult Like we teach children to not digging their heels, it is absolutely no excuse for someone to do that in their 40s
Scheana saying she’s mad at Sandoval for what he did to Ariana, to the group, that he use to be someone she could go to and trust….the same episode Scheana is upset that Ariana doesn’t hype Scheana and Sandovals friendship I seriously had to check my speed was slowed down when Scheana talks
Scheana is devoid of loyalty and integrity, that's why she's able to be Bff with Sandoval and Ariana, despite what she claims to know. She stands for nothing, she's interpersonally reprobate. Who you chose as your friends, says A LOT about one's character, and Scheana chose to continue investing in her Friendship with Tom because they share similar character traits and personalities. Both morally destitute, selfish, and dishonest. What's that old english proverb ? Birds of a feather, flock together or Two peas in a pod.
Sandoval being a fool on this one. Here's the big difference, Lala had to sign an NDA to keep her mouth shut and keep her exe's name off the show until he was ready. Randall also pulled the wool over Lala's eye's as he was taking her places introducing her as his gf, even to meet his parents meanwhile was cheating on his wife. Lala didn't know that! Sandoval didn't have to sign no NDA 🙄 it's not the same thing and I really wish Sandoval would just stop pointing fingers and take accountability for being a coward & cheating, instead of just breaking up with Ariana before he chose to f Raquel. Compare apples to apples not apples to tacos. Geez!
Sandoval saying we are all playing bowling and lala isn’t lmao like sandoval the only reason you came clean was because ariana picked up ur phone. You hid all of it until it lol lala spoke up as soon she heard about Randall
Lala's my favorite, but she knew Randall was married. Stassi clocked her the first season she came to the show and he purchased her that range rover. Stassi spilled all her tea about Randall being married, and she denied, denied, denied.
Why must Tom S double down on wearing the lightening bolt necklace? 😬 Why can’t he just take responsibility? It’s really not that hard. I know, he’s a narcissist.
8:50 Schwartz' exasperated sigh is all of us hearing Sandoval speak "I wasn't" 🤦🏼♀️ when he literally just *did* 🤡 His whole MO is whataboutism. Just answer the damn question!! He can't!! Has to comeback with "yeah, well, remember you did this..?" That, whatever it is in the moment, has no standing on answering for your actions, taking accountability & showing growth.
Lala has explained this so many times I feel like I could quote her... stop it already. It was a messy divorce, their were kids involved is what he told Lala. That wasn't Randall's reality, but it was Lala's.
@@KAte-ng9zg So did she..... lol 💀 She cared more about keeping up appearances. She also lied when she was happily the other woman... you are all so ridiculous 🙄
@@starynightugh6951 She didn't sleep with anyone when he went to a family funeral in his house. If she did people would constantly rip her apart because she's the woman. I mean she's the victim and she's still being ripped apart for not having torn her own life apart or not living a depressive existence. She decided to rise above it instead. However, if she sat back and just felt bad for herself she would still be kicked to the curb so I'm glad she stayed strong and made a nice apple pie from a 💩 situation.
I feel like Sandoval hate for Lala is stronger because she clocked his tea. I think he really feels like his little plan to "end things" after thr reunion would've worked. If Lala didn't put it together.
8:35 is literally just the perfect example of why tom schwartz will never be able to make any progress with sandoval. like schwartz carefully floated the idea that tom has been just pulling shit out of people's closets to avoid taking accountability and sandoval literally said "no, that's actually the opposite of what's happening, everyone is doing that to ME" like??????????? you can literally see schwartz get so frustrated that he can't just own it in REAL TIME.
The issue is Sandoval was acting like the VPR hall monitor for years, and he still can't give up that role despite his shady behavior finally coming to light. Yeah Lala's life and timeline never makes sense, but who is Sandoval to call that out?
Bingo ! Scheana is devoid of loyalty and integrity, that's why she's able to be Bff with Sandoval and Ariana, despite what she claims to know. She stands for nothing, she's interpersonally reprobate. Who you chose as your friends, says A LOT about one's character, and Scheana chose to continue investing in her Friendship with Tom because they share similar character traits and personalities. Both morally destitute, selfish, and dishonest. What's that old english proverb ? Birds of a feather, flock together or Two peas in a pod.
She has NO life she lives thru her "so called"frnds like Why ur so devastated by where this man put his "manhood" she claims she so traumatized like girl get it life n head in order.🤦🤷👊
No, she wants an apology from Sandoval because he was targeting her when he was doing that shady thing behind Ariana's back. Please don't bring up Lala's past mistakes since she has been apologetic about them continuously. Sandoval never takes accountability for his actions. Moreover, Lala has learned from her mistakes, so she is the best person to advise Sandoval on how to do things.
Say what you want about Schwartz but he keeps me laughingggggg. His constant state of delusion of anything going on is top tier. It’s giving Frye from futurama vibes.
Scheana has zero dancing skills Ariana was her backup dancer in season 2 when Scheana lip-synced her 1st song How is She even saying Ariana knew Scheana wanted to do dancing with the stars??? Scheana is All. About Scheana
I’m confused as to why Lala feels the need for him to apologize/own up to/ take accountability TO HER. Like he doesn’t owe anyone an apology or even his sincerity to anyone but Ariana and her family. Possibly close friends ACTUALLY involved like Scheana whom clearly he was close to and the fact that Scheana took Rachel in directly affected her. But James and Lala need to take a back seat. I understand they feel a type of way for Ariana but I don’t see how in this particular moment Sandoval owes her anything. On that note, Lala was asking him to take accountability/answer for his lying behavior but he brings things up about the past 🤔 Not sure that’s what Lala wanted but of course he needs to deflect instead of respectfully telling her “Lala what my actions say of me are offensive to you and many others, I’ve apologized and will continue to until Ariana needs me to, but I don’t owe you any type of conversation regarding this affair.”
I see what you’re saying but when someone (who you consider a friend) accuse you of things that they themselves are doing behind everyone’s back, idk about you, but I would love an apology too. Lala has every right to be upset because he’s a hypocrite. Having a 7 month affair while telling Lala to be real is insane. Also he should also apologize to James. He was engaged to Raquel. He had a five year relationship with her and for Tom to hook up with her is also insane. Especially after Rachella. And also it’s been very clear that James looked up to him and for Tom to do that to him is very shitty. I do understand where you’re coming from but all these people are friends and they all do deserve an apology for his betrayal.
@@Andrea-nn8wt I just didn’t think in a surface level friendship you’d need to go through the trouble but if you feel otherwise I respect that. When Tom referred to Lala as being fake I’m sure it was a very warranted response considering they were fighting, I don’t think Tom stopped to realize he wasn’t being sincere himself but in any case, Tom has a lot of work to do:)
No, she wants an apology from Sandoval because he was targeting her when he was doing that shady thing behind Ariana's back. Please don't bring up Lala's past mistakes since she has been apologetic about them continuously. Sandoval never takes accountability for his actions. Moreover, Lala has learned from her mistakes, so she is the best person to advise Sandoval on how to do things.
@@drkn1559 True. I do think perspective is everything. We only know what is shown to us. I think this is blown into a HUGE issue when people can focus on healing and moving on. In life there is a time to be angry and a time to move on from that, it’s got to be unhealthy to constantly choose anger/resentment, even if those feelings are warranted we should choose what’s best for us. Also in life we’re not always guaranteed an apology but I’m assuming due to them filming this apology needs to happen for the group to move forward, not sure about the sincerity of it all but whatever it takes I guess:)
When Scheana said “I don’t know if I need to…” Loved that. Sometimes wrong behavior requires no justification. You just know what’s wrong and don’t want to sit through an explanation.
Im over watching VPR trying to whitewash Sandoval and attacking Arianna Lala and Scheana are so damn jealous. When Lisa obviously supported Sandoval instead of understanding why Arianna is distanced. Then Scheana pissed how she wanted to be DWS so how is it Arianna fault nobody wanted the flip floppy Scheana Katie and Arianna are the only true adults left. Watched until Sandoval screams at Lala I turned off. Will no longer invite triggers into my living room.
Sheana did punch Rachel in the face, unhinged. And then she was outside of a courthouse with Brock talking about DV and real victims? Disgusting. Especially with Brock of all people who abused his ex.
I think you can be torn when friends split up if you loved them both, It is hard to lose relationships even when one person has done something so wrong
It’s not. If your friends break your ethics especially towards another friend you need to decide if your sense of morality is stronger then your sense of normalcy. Remember the friend who did the bad thing is the one responsible for the consequences. The victim isn’t splitting the group removing themselves from their abuser. The person who did the abuse is the one who split your group.
I believe Tom put the story out about Brock just bc his 1st defense is "you have no evidence of that whatsoever" like that's the talk of someone who meticulously thought about covering his tracks
I love how James does not agree with anything they say, and Lala can’t even handle it, so funny because it’s true!! Lala has morphed into a Schwartz type of energy, meek and denial 😝 It makes us all laugh, how she uses her tough words as if she’s some gangster, but it’s never even been in a fight. She’s definitely all bark and now it’s getting a little exhausting because her phoniness is clear as day. Not surprised by Scheana as she makes everything about her, but for her to cry to Ariana is the wrong audience, a best friend would put that pressure on a friend that went through what Ariana, NOT Scheana went through, but she is very selfish and surfaced , so she probably doesn’t even know the difference 🙄
No, she wants an apology from Sandoval because he was targeting her when he was doing that shady thing behind Ariana's back. Please don't bring up Lala's past mistakes since she has been apologetic about them continuously. Sandoval never takes accountability for his actions. Moreover, Lala has learned from her mistakes, so she is the best person to advise Sandoval on how to do things.
9:13 the irony of Tim Scumdoval saying Katie keeps bringing up things that are 6 years old, but when James wanted Tom to acknowledge he hurt him (hurt James) by sleeping with his ex-fiance, Tom tried to say "yeah BUT you slept with Kristen 10 years ago! (And it's not even comparable because they were never engaged and were also BROKEN UP at when James slept with Kristen. Such a damn hypocrite through and through! Deflect, deflect, deflect!
He needs to take the punches and stop deflecting. That's the problem, that's why he doesn't seem to show any accountability. He's too busy pointing fingers.
Think the publist did it. Think it did effect Brock&Scheana saying he was cheating . Tom needs stop with analogies first George Floyd,now saying Obama stop it.
Real? Tom's tears. Tom's apology. Tom's change of heart. Don't be fooled. By any of it! Sandoval has not changed one bit. If you don't believe me, then go and find Viall Files. Sandoval sat down with Nick Vaills interview. He doubled down, gas lights, deflected, accused, played the victim. More demented & deranged!
I don’t know when they filmed this after show, but Tom Sandoval is STILL deflecting every question asked of him, onto someone else!! Including Schwartz, his BEST FRIEND, by bringing up the night he went off on Katie like a drunk fool!! He can’t answer a single question about himself or the affair!! He deflected every single time. That is not remorse or someone who’s sorry!! So until he can do the one thing he loves to scream in every girls face, TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY for his actions, this BS will never die. You can’t move on and forgive someone who doesn’t think they’re at fault.
The conversation at that time wasnt about LaLa. It was about Tom admitting fault and taking accountability. He just needs to say yes and leave past conversations aside. That's why we all have issues with him.
literally sandoval brought up James being with Kristen 10 years ago.....this scene is him talking about Lala being secretive about Randall for the first two seasons of this show.....he is trying to bring up all of the past to deflect
Lala lost a parent, spiraled out got sober had a baby with a wierd old man and had a very public break up and tom has the nerve to say she doesnt share ?? Lala outed Toms cheatig thats why he hates her. She would've absolutely accepted that apology
No, she wants an apology from Sandoval because he was targeting her when he was doing that shady thing behind Ariana's back. Please don't bring up Lala's past mistakes since she has been apologetic about them continuously. Sandoval never takes accountability for his actions. Moreover, Lala has learned from her mistakes, so she is the best person to advise Sandoval on how to do things.
You're wrong. What's happened is nobody's business. Especially not Lala, and her own built up anger is being dumped on Tom. That is what's happening. If everyone would bud out, Tom and Adriana could work out a friendship. It's lack of maturity, that's the problem.
@@mariapietroniro7479 If you are not familiar with the TV show Vanderpump Rules, then you might not know about the issues between Tom and LALA throughout the different seasons. Tom has called LALA all kinds of names and has said negative things about her, which made her upset and caused their friends to take sides. At one point, Ariana also disliked LALA because of Tom's manipulative behavior. However, after Tom publicly betrayed her trust, it seems unlikely that Ariana would want to have a conversation with him, and a friendship cannot be reformed between them. Therefore, it is clear that Tom's behavior displays immaturity, not Ariana or LALA. If you wish to discuss this topic, I suggest you binge-watch all the seasons of the show before bringing it up.
Lala never lied to Sandoval about her relationship him & Ariana were close to Lala & always knew Randall!! They even took trips with them!! Its his way of not taking accountability once again!
the way Sandoval talks about Lala makes it extremely clear that he thinks the worst of her, which nullifies their entire exchange on the boat. this man forever takes 1 step forward, 50 steps back. scum!
Is Sandoval EVER gonna say Sorry, Period? This is not about other people on the cast, its about him! Crazy. I'm proud of Lala and I can't believe I'm saying this bc I was so disgusted with her bully nature from day 1 she came VPR. I believe Scheana has the right to her feelings. This was years of real friendship with Sandoval. It's hard for her.
I feel like Sandoval been torn apart enough!!! All these people cheated or did something horrendous to other people at one time or another! Yet its easy for everyone to bully Sandoval..he needs to stop saying sorry and just own it and move on...then people will leave him alone..
Is time Sandoval pushes back the haters. He still being humiliated for letting his relationship take its course. Thats an option when u shack up and not marry.
Funny how Sleazy indicated that He Would NEVER do that?? He said the exact same thing about his affair when they asked him during his confessional before he got caught.
For Schwartz it's never the time to open up the history books. They have gone from good time partying in their 20s to bitter angry middle aged people who would never be friends if not for the show. Its the greatest.
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Tom and Tom are like watching dumb and dumber sometimes. Even if they’re saying things that make sense, one of them is like “squirrel” and the other one is explaining things like a 16 year old boy would lol
Lol no don't discredit dumb and dumber by these idiots. Toms are way worse lol.
don't give them an idea lol dumb and dumber with these guys would actually be entertaining
Remember when they tried to replace them with Max & Brett.. it was even more painful to watch them try to speak and rationalize literally anything
They’re ALL over 30 and act 16. No clue why anyone continues to watch it. Same story line since the beginning. Just middle school drama. Bunch of selfish entitled adults who legitimately act like they’re in middle school. It’s embarrassing. I see clips like this and just beyond embarrassed they’re still doing this.
And the people not involved at all just “friends” act like they deserved to know every secret and detail. Some of these people have KIDS. They argue about things KIDS do. Sums up our society with this show and why it’s still on.
Even Schwartz is over him texting in his phone while Sandy is whining lol
Then Scando reprimanding him like “dood, we are here to film a show.”
Uuuuuh, do you mean the same show that Shorts says production has to lie and give Scando early time calls for because he is chronically late?!
This man has so much egg on his face that he is a walking representation of “this is what your brain looks like on drugs.”🥴🤣🤣
Sandoval said during the reunion that he and Ariana weren't putting themselves out there for years but now the reason he's mad at Lala is because she wasn't putting herself out there for the show for years while the rest of them were. What?
this is what narcissist do they twist everything around to get the attention off of their horrible behavior. It's called narcissist blame shifting, pity me manipulation, gas lighting etc. they play lots of mind games.
Whatever excuse works for him in the moment
Both Tom and lala did wrong, both cheaters. One is not better than the other! And I like lala but girlllll... Settle down
@@CheribabyTx i dont care for either but Sandoval be also acting he better than everyone too.
@@CheribabyTx connnect the dots. Lala dated then married a very manipulative narcissist man who sucked her into his con game. These types of men (or woman) can suck anyone and everyone into their con game.
Sandervol has a lot a traits of a narcissist. He dated & was a serial cheater on Kristin. Then created a "narcissistic smear campaign" (lookup) against Kristin. then he was a serial cheater on Ariana. And, during the 7 month affair was creating a narcissist smear campaign against Ariana.
Lala sees lots of narcissist traits with Tom because she was in a emotional &mentally abusive relationship with her ex.
Pigs will fly before Sandoval takes accountability
Or before anyone else in the cast takes any accountability...
Soooo true
He’s the perpetual victim. Narcs or people with NPD (in my experience) never accept responsibility. They somehow always manage to make themselves so hard done by in every situation they cause. It’s exhausting, it’s like a mental block, they just don’t get it.
@@georginaohara42 well it is bizarre his whole friend group and the bravo public treated him like he murdered someone. The story was on CNN. It was out of proportion. And Sheana is struggling now because she knows it’s not black and white, people are not evil villains but humans who make mistakes. And he cheated on Ariana, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t a friend to others. Ariana try to block him from everyone and it’s high school.
@@georginaohara42 it’s also hypocritical since other people cheated. James cheated with Lala on Rachel. Ariana cheated with Tom on Kristen. Sheana had an affair with a taken man. Lala as well. Jax cheated. Kristen cheated. Schwartz was kissing strangers while he was with Katie. So why is this so much different..
I think this group has legitimately grown apart. They need to go their separate ways and go the way that's naturally calling them.
They keep it going despite the extreme dysfunction and pain, they continue to do it for the fame (a false reality by the way) and for the money. For themselves, for the show.
lmao you do know this is a job, right? Theyre making a ton of money. Theyre celebrities. Hit tv shows are like lightning striking. Its not gonna happen again for them.
Sandovals tone is always 10times more aggressive towards women, in interviews, on the show , than men. It’s disgusting how we continue to allow him be openly hostile to an entire gender on a public platform
A few ppl pointed that out on the Viall interview. He had a hostile tone towards the female cohost.
Yes. Sandoval bullies women
Sandoval makes Schwartz so uncomfortable.
I think it’s because the veil is finally lifted off of Schwartz eyes so now he knows take everything Sandoval says as mostly bs
Schwartz, like everyone else, only wants to hear "I'm sorry"...period...no "but". Yes, they've all cheated or done this or done that, but Tom needs to stop trying to "make them even" and just say SORRY.
Schwarz is only still tolerating him because of the businesses 😂
@@vickibrabandt2658facts, he’s just too scared to tell Sandoval!
Lmao I was just thinking this when he started texting and he gave him the side eye… we’re filming a show bro…. In reality all these people. Wanted to be actors, but settled for this so. That irony makes twice as funny 😂
La la always wants an apology from people who accuse her of doing things she’s actually done. 😂
Facts
She's quick to apologize herself though
I think it's the hypocrisy of it all. Sandoval was going hard on Lala while he was doing worse.
No, she wants an apology from Sandoval because he was targeting her when he was doing that shady thing behind Ariana's back. Please don't bring up Lala's past mistakes since she has been apologetic about them continuously. Sandoval never takes accountability for his actions. Moreover, Lala has learned from her mistakes, so she is the best person to advise Sandoval on how to do things.
No, she wants an apology from Sandoval because he was targeting her when he was doing that shady thing behind Ariana's back. Please don't bring up Lala's past mistakes since she has been apologetic about them continuously. Sandoval never takes accountability for his actions. Moreover, Lala has learned from her mistakes, so she is the best person to advise Sandoval on how to do things.
Sandoval has learned NOTHING, he do the same thing EVERY time the opportunity showed itself.
The entire cast haven't learned anything...
Sandoval doesn't take responsibility for anything he does. He just deflects a lot.
Idc if I get dragged … AGAIN. Why oh whyyyyy is Scheana riding SO HARD for Sandoval?! 😂 AFTER his team tried to drag Brock?! Girl … he AINT YOUR FRIEND. 🫣😭🤣
Right?! It's so bonkers
Its bc when the show first spun off RHOBH Scheana was the home wrecking mistress. None of the girls would b caught dead being her friend during filming or IRL.
When the show's premiere had it's "red carpet" event, no one from the cast would stand with Scheana for photos, except for Sandoval. He was the only one to stand and embrace her for the earliest sponsored press coverage of VPR. Just saying, if u kno u kno
Girl you are so right. If anybody drags you I’m tapping in.
Sandoval was a master manipulator in katie and toms marriage
No, he was being honest about how he felt about Katie. And he was right!
Is that why Katie has Ariana on the misery train?
Yeah he was!! Katie put up with alot with Schwartz... He is so immature and has Sandoval in his ear all the time! Katie is better off without either Tom imo
Sandevil was so nasty to Katie in front of Schwartz constantly while they were married, and Schwartz said nothing. I truly believe it was a big factor in the demise.
Exactly !
Lake Tahoe was the star of this episode -beautiful.
They aren’t stars they are wannabes…
VANDERPUMP RULES won’t last forever!
Sandoval is so good at "I'm sorry, BUT.....".
Aren’t we all. 🤣
@@Roz-y2dno some people grow up and take pride in being accountable for their actions.
@@tracim3080But at times we still dig our heels in and won’t admit the truth.
@@Roz-y2d you realize that’s a bad instinct you’re supposed to be working on to not do as an adult
Like we teach children to not digging their heels, it is absolutely no excuse for someone to do that in their 40s
Scheana saying she’s mad at Sandoval for what he did to Ariana, to the group, that he use to be someone she could go to and trust….the same episode Scheana is upset that Ariana doesn’t hype Scheana and Sandovals friendship
I seriously had to check my speed was slowed down when Scheana talks
I have to FF her scenes lol
Scheana is devoid of loyalty and integrity, that's why she's able to be Bff with Sandoval and Ariana, despite what she claims to know. She stands for nothing, she's interpersonally reprobate.
Who you chose as your friends, says A LOT about one's character, and Scheana chose to continue investing in her Friendship with Tom because they share similar character traits and personalities. Both morally destitute, selfish, and dishonest. What's that old english proverb ? Birds of a feather, flock together or Two peas in a pod.
Sandoval being a fool on this one. Here's the big difference, Lala had to sign an NDA to keep her mouth shut and keep her exe's name off the show until he was ready. Randall also pulled the wool over Lala's eye's as he was taking her places introducing her as his gf, even to meet his parents meanwhile was cheating on his wife. Lala didn't know that!
Sandoval didn't have to sign no NDA 🙄 it's not the same thing and I really wish Sandoval would just stop pointing fingers and take accountability for being a coward & cheating, instead of just breaking up with Ariana before he chose to f Raquel. Compare apples to apples not apples to tacos. Geez!
Schwartz looks terrified every time Sandoval opens his mouth.
Sandoval saying we are all playing bowling and lala isn’t lmao like sandoval the only reason you came clean was because ariana picked up ur phone. You hid all of it until it lol lala spoke up as soon she heard about Randall
Lala's my favorite, but she knew Randall was married. Stassi clocked her the first season she came to the show and he purchased her that range rover. Stassi spilled all her tea about Randall being married, and she denied, denied, denied.
If it were up to Tom it would have never came out. Ariana is the one that put it on blast. Tom’s disgusting
Why must Tom S double down on wearing the lightening bolt necklace? 😬 Why can’t he just take responsibility? It’s really not that hard. I know, he’s a narcissist.
This is elevated to a quadruple down by now
That ‘necklace’ speaks volumes. What a moron.
I hope the next episode is the one where Schwartz tells lala about him kissing scheana. Also low key feel like Schwartz is hitting on LaLa 😂❤
Mmmm. But I don’t think Lala is interested. When did Swartz and Scheana kiss?
I’m shipping Schwartz and Lala 2024
8:50 Schwartz' exasperated sigh is all of us hearing Sandoval speak
"I wasn't" 🤦🏼♀️ when he literally just *did* 🤡 His whole MO is whataboutism. Just answer the damn question!! He can't!! Has to comeback with "yeah, well, remember you did this..?" That, whatever it is in the moment, has no standing on answering for your actions, taking accountability & showing growth.
Lala has explained this so many times I feel like I could quote her... stop it already. It was a messy divorce, their were kids involved is what he told Lala. That wasn't Randall's reality, but it was Lala's.
Sandoval lied for 4 or so years about his relationship with Ariana by his own admission !
So did Ariana...
@@starynightugh6951Nope, it was real for her. He lied.
@@KAte-ng9zg So did she..... lol 💀 She cared more about keeping up appearances. She also lied when she was happily the other woman... you are all so ridiculous 🙄
@@starynightugh6951 She didn't sleep with anyone when he went to a family funeral in his house. If she did people would constantly rip her apart because she's the woman. I mean she's the victim and she's still being ripped apart for not having torn her own life apart or not living a depressive existence. She decided to rise above it instead. However, if she sat back and just felt bad for herself she would still be kicked to the curb so I'm glad she stayed strong and made a nice apple pie from a 💩 situation.
@@KAte-ng9zg wrong, she let lala go down on her in the backseat of the care and Tom was driving.That's still cheating.
If he and Rachel got together, he wouldn't care for any of these ppl. I don't think I can keep watching if this is how the whole season will be
Bye 😂 nobody cares
@@Arieszona48 don't waste your time commenting next time, just say those words to yourself.
Remind me when was Lala accountable?
Go back and watch, pay attention and you will see. There's more to the show than Sandoval
Not her #1 fan but she owns up to her mistakes even if it takes a while and retrospection
I’d say this season so far she’s been pretty vulnerable with her part in her own issues, and it shifted the way I felt about her as a viewer.
A lot. Especially after her divorce when she was spiraling because of all the lies she believed.
She admitted she should have known better.
She has been very accountable with her alcoholism! Very!
&& there it is. Tom is still mad at Lala for telling Ariana he stayed at the party with Raquel.
I feel like Sandoval hate for Lala is stronger because she clocked his tea. I think he really feels like his little plan to "end things" after thr reunion would've worked. If Lala didn't put it together.
Sandoval has a tell - you know he is lying when he looks at someone out of the corner of his eyes !!!
Check and watch him do it …
Good call. I noticed that too. Jax always looks down and to the left. Both of them do a slow blink. They can't look the person in the eye. Classic.
Difference is, LaLa was only a young woman who had her emotions exploited by an older man who made her keep secrets. Sound familiar?
8:35 is literally just the perfect example of why tom schwartz will never be able to make any progress with sandoval. like schwartz carefully floated the idea that tom has been just pulling shit out of people's closets to avoid taking accountability and sandoval literally said "no, that's actually the opposite of what's happening, everyone is doing that to ME" like??????????? you can literally see schwartz get so frustrated that he can't just own it in REAL TIME.
The issue is Sandoval was acting like the VPR hall monitor for years, and he still can't give up that role despite his shady behavior finally coming to light. Yeah Lala's life and timeline never makes sense, but who is Sandoval to call that out?
Whenever Scheana talks it's like nails on a chalk board. It is painfully watching the way her mouth moves
Schena is a terrible friend. She has no integrity or backbone, and just goes with whatever’s popular.
Bingo !
Scheana is devoid of loyalty and integrity, that's why she's able to be Bff with Sandoval and Ariana, despite what she claims to know. She stands for nothing, she's interpersonally reprobate.
Who you chose as your friends, says A LOT about one's character, and Scheana chose to continue investing in her Friendship with Tom because they share similar character traits and personalities. Both morally destitute, selfish, and dishonest. What's that old english proverb ? Birds of a feather, flock together or Two peas in a pod.
She has NO life she lives thru her "so called"frnds like Why ur so devastated by where this man put his "manhood" she claims she so traumatized like girl get it life n head in order.🤦🤷👊
6:28 OH SO FINALLY AN ANSWER why he’s so mad at Lala
Tom has always blamed others for his shit. Narcissist
The entire cast does that. Not just Tom.
LaLa is a bully and a mean girl. She is so aggressive for no reason. What James said was facts. WTH does Scheana want Ariana to say!?
Tom deflects like nobody’s business. He’s throwing you right under that bus to get heat off himself.
No, she wants an apology from Sandoval because he was targeting her when he was doing that shady thing behind Ariana's back. Please don't bring up Lala's past mistakes since she has been apologetic about them continuously. Sandoval never takes accountability for his actions. Moreover, Lala has learned from her mistakes, so she is the best person to advise Sandoval on how to do things.
Alcoholic Lauren is the best to advise? I would never take life advice from her.
Tom Sandoval is so cringe.
Why does Brock wear 3 inch heels?? 👠 👠
Tom Lala and your situation are no comparison. WE ALL SAW YOU BOTH.
Say what you want about Schwartz but he keeps me laughingggggg. His constant state of delusion of anything going on is top tier. It’s giving Frye from futurama vibes.
I just don't believe a single word that cones out of Sandavols mouth
Scheana has zero dancing skills Ariana was her backup dancer in season 2 when Scheana lip-synced her 1st song How is She even saying Ariana knew Scheana wanted to do dancing with the stars??? Scheana is All. About Scheana
And Ariana is such a great dancer???? Obviously not. She didn’t win.
Ridiculous thing to say. She did great on the show.
That is a really dumb thing to say, Arianna killed it and could have won. Don't be jelly
@@Arieszona48is that you Tom?😂
I’m confused as to why Lala feels the need for him to apologize/own up to/ take accountability TO HER. Like he doesn’t owe anyone an apology or even his sincerity to anyone but Ariana and her family. Possibly close friends ACTUALLY involved like Scheana whom clearly he was close to and the fact that Scheana took Rachel in directly affected her. But James and Lala need to take a back seat. I understand they feel a type of way for Ariana but I don’t see how in this particular moment Sandoval owes her anything. On that note, Lala was asking him to take accountability/answer for his lying behavior but he brings things up about the past 🤔 Not sure that’s what Lala wanted but of course he needs to deflect instead of respectfully telling her “Lala what my actions say of me are offensive to you and many others, I’ve apologized and will continue to until Ariana needs me to, but I don’t owe you any type of conversation regarding this affair.”
I see what you’re saying but when someone (who you consider a friend) accuse you of things that they themselves are doing behind everyone’s back, idk about you, but I would love an apology too. Lala has every right to be upset because he’s a hypocrite. Having a 7 month affair while telling Lala to be real is insane. Also he should also apologize to James. He was engaged to Raquel. He had a five year relationship with her and for Tom to hook up with her is also insane. Especially after Rachella. And also it’s been very clear that James looked up to him and for Tom to do that to him is very shitty. I do understand where you’re coming from but all these people are friends and they all do deserve an apology for his betrayal.
@@Andrea-nn8wt I just didn’t think in a surface level friendship you’d need to go through the trouble but if you feel otherwise I respect that. When Tom referred to Lala as being fake I’m sure it was a very warranted response considering they were fighting, I don’t think Tom stopped to realize he wasn’t being sincere himself but in any case, Tom has a lot of work to do:)
No, she wants an apology from Sandoval because he was targeting her when he was doing that shady thing behind Ariana's back. Please don't bring up Lala's past mistakes since she has been apologetic about them continuously. Sandoval never takes accountability for his actions. Moreover, Lala has learned from her mistakes, so she is the best person to advise Sandoval on how to do things.
@@drkn1559 True. I do think perspective is everything. We only know what is shown to us. I think this is blown into a HUGE issue when people can focus on healing and moving on. In life there is a time to be angry and a time to move on from that, it’s got to be unhealthy to constantly choose anger/resentment, even if those feelings are warranted we should choose what’s best for us. Also in life we’re not always guaranteed an apology but I’m assuming due to them filming this apology needs to happen for the group to move forward, not sure about the sincerity of it all but whatever it takes I guess:)
@@genbluefun4124 Agreed.
Tom could get a side gig making up excuses. Seriously this guy's self awareness is 0
Schwartz looks like his anxiety is thru the roof sitting next to Sandoval as he deflects lol
How many times is he gunna use the word “Salacious??” And not in the proper way to be frank lol
When Scheana said “I don’t know if I need to…” Loved that. Sometimes wrong behavior requires no justification. You just know what’s wrong and don’t want to sit through an explanation.
Im over watching VPR trying to whitewash Sandoval and attacking Arianna Lala and Scheana are so damn jealous. When Lisa obviously supported Sandoval instead of understanding why Arianna is distanced. Then Scheana pissed how she wanted to be DWS so how is it Arianna fault nobody wanted the flip floppy Scheana Katie and Arianna are the only true adults left. Watched until Sandoval screams at Lala I turned off. Will no longer invite triggers into my living room.
PERIODT
you can see how Schwartz is totally in an abusive relationship with Sandoval
Sandoval is still such a creep
Did Schwartz text Sandoval to just stop talking? That was probably the right thing. Sandoval needs to be pulled out of his deflection and word vomit
Still wearing the ⚡️ chain.
He’s always wore it and I think Rachel made it their thing
And Scheana has a tattoo Of it also..
Sheana did punch Rachel in the face, unhinged. And then she was outside of a courthouse with Brock talking about DV and real victims? Disgusting. Especially with Brock of all people who abused his ex.
I think you can be torn when friends split up if you loved them both, It is hard to lose relationships even when one person has done something so wrong
It’s not.
If your friends break your ethics especially towards another friend you need to decide if your sense of morality is stronger then your sense of normalcy.
Remember the friend who did the bad thing is the one responsible for the consequences. The victim isn’t splitting the group removing themselves from their abuser.
The person who did the abuse is the one who split your group.
Schwartz is appalled by Sandoval.
Lala admitting that Tom is a narcissist but still expecting Ariana to get over it & defending him now is crazy lol
I believe Tom put the story out about Brock just bc his 1st defense is "you have no evidence of that whatsoever" like that's the talk of someone who meticulously thought about covering his tracks
Sandavol is insufferable
Yep, they all are.
Schwartz always looks so fed up of Sandoval.
My god sandavol is insufferable
Yes, and so are Lala, James, Scheana and Katie.
@@Roz-y2d Lala isn’t that bad, scheana however you are correct is arguably just as insufferable
Am I the just one that thought this Sandoval’s first love story was just a lie? 🤣🤣🤣
I think Katie is the realest on bravo 👏🏼
I think Katie is the cruelest. Always has been.
I love katie❤. Tom hates Katie because she saw through his bs.
@@TeeVaPoolKatie hates Tom cos he saw through HER bs.
I love how James does not agree with anything they say, and Lala can’t even handle it, so funny because it’s true!!
Lala has morphed into a Schwartz type of energy, meek and denial 😝
It makes us all laugh, how she uses her tough words as if she’s some gangster, but it’s never even been in a fight. She’s definitely all bark and now it’s getting a little exhausting because her phoniness is clear as day.
Not surprised by Scheana as she makes everything about her, but for her to cry to Ariana is the wrong audience, a best friend would put that pressure on a friend that went through what Ariana, NOT Scheana went through, but she is very selfish and surfaced , so she probably doesn’t even know the difference 🙄
James has more sense than these two. He understands and is way more loyal to Ariana than they are.
4:28 Lala did hide about Randall, private jets, Range Rover pretty face, but now she’s preggers. Congrats
She signed an nda.
Lala and Scheana are the most annoying. No girl code 👩💻
Oh please. What are we in high school?????
No, she wants an apology from Sandoval because he was targeting her when he was doing that shady thing behind Ariana's back. Please don't bring up Lala's past mistakes since she has been apologetic about them continuously. Sandoval never takes accountability for his actions. Moreover, Lala has learned from her mistakes, so she is the best person to advise Sandoval on how to do things.
9:13 the irony of Tim Scumdoval saying Katie keeps bringing up things that are 6 years old, but when James wanted Tom to acknowledge he hurt him (hurt James) by sleeping with his ex-fiance, Tom tried to say "yeah BUT you slept with Kristen 10 years ago! (And it's not even comparable because they were never engaged and were also BROKEN UP at when James slept with Kristen. Such a damn hypocrite through and through! Deflect, deflect, deflect!
Sandoval makes no sense he just starts rambling and likes the sound of his own voice so he keeps going and going and going.
He needs to take the punches and stop deflecting. That's the problem, that's why he doesn't seem to show any accountability. He's too busy pointing fingers.
All these people against Tom still dont know compassion and forgiveness😮
He’s a narcissist. Stop falling for his bs
Why is Tom S bringing up Katie, he don't like her. Now he's trying to talk about how he took up for her.
Sandavol was so right about Lala
oops! I clicked way too fast! I haven't even watched the episode yet! Didn't even realize it was Tuesday!😂❤
Can we just move on? This group can springboard into individual endeavors and we can can get a new cast in Lake Tahoe!
Think the publist did it. Think it did effect Brock&Scheana saying he was cheating .
Tom needs stop with analogies first George Floyd,now saying Obama stop it.
Ugh I hate to say it but I think there is more to the Rachel/brock rumors. Katie and Schwartz looked very uncomfortable during those parts
Real? Tom's tears. Tom's apology. Tom's change of heart. Don't be fooled. By any of it! Sandoval has not changed one bit.
If you don't believe me, then go and find Viall Files.
Sandoval sat down with Nick Vaills interview. He doubled down, gas lights, deflected, accused, played the victim. More demented & deranged!
he has never said " i was wrong for what i did" that's all these people need to
I don’t know when they filmed this after show, but Tom Sandoval is STILL deflecting every question asked of him, onto someone else!! Including Schwartz, his BEST FRIEND, by bringing up the night he went off on Katie like a drunk fool!! He can’t answer a single question about himself or the affair!! He deflected every single time. That is not remorse or someone who’s sorry!! So until he can do the one thing he loves to scream in every girls face, TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY for his actions, this BS will never die. You can’t move on and forgive someone who doesn’t think they’re at fault.
The conversation at that time wasnt about LaLa. It was about Tom admitting fault and taking accountability. He just needs to say yes and leave past conversations aside. That's why we all have issues with him.
It’s ALWAYS about Schena
literally sandoval brought up James being with Kristen 10 years ago.....this scene is him talking about Lala being secretive about Randall for the first two seasons of this show.....he is trying to bring up all of the past to deflect
Bc james has never shown remorse and wasn't held accountable at the time.
Lala lost a parent, spiraled out got sober had a baby with a wierd old man and had a very public break up and tom has the nerve to say she doesnt share ?? Lala outed Toms cheatig thats why he hates her. She would've absolutely accepted that apology
Schwartz looks so bored in this with Sandoval lol.
He is uncomfortable and self soothing to get through the interview. The guy is completely controlled by Sandoval and Jax.
Not once has he ever said he was the reason for all these problems
Tom is absolutely right, about Lala.
No, she wants an apology from Sandoval because he was targeting her when he was doing that shady thing behind Ariana's back. Please don't bring up Lala's past mistakes since she has been apologetic about them continuously. Sandoval never takes accountability for his actions. Moreover, Lala has learned from her mistakes, so she is the best person to advise Sandoval on how to do things.
You're wrong. What's happened is nobody's business. Especially not Lala, and her own built up anger is being dumped on Tom. That is what's happening. If everyone would bud out, Tom and Adriana could work out a friendship. It's lack of maturity, that's the problem.
@@mariapietroniro7479 If you are not familiar with the TV show Vanderpump Rules, then you might not know about the issues between Tom and LALA throughout the different seasons. Tom has called LALA all kinds of names and has said negative things about her, which made her upset and caused their friends to take sides. At one point, Ariana also disliked LALA because of Tom's manipulative behavior. However, after Tom publicly betrayed her trust, it seems unlikely that Ariana would want to have a conversation with him, and a friendship cannot be reformed between them. Therefore, it is clear that Tom's behavior displays immaturity, not Ariana or LALA. If you wish to discuss this topic, I suggest you binge-watch all the seasons of the show before bringing it up.
Your wrong again. Lala is an over emotional child and should learn to bud out.
Lala never lied to Sandoval about her relationship him & Ariana were close to Lala & always knew Randall!! They even took trips with them!! Its his way of not taking accountability once again!
the way Sandoval talks about Lala makes it extremely clear that he thinks the worst of her, which nullifies their entire exchange on the boat. this man forever takes 1 step forward, 50 steps back. scum!
Tom is right about Lala though lol. Tom and Lala are that Spider-Man meme is hilarious.
Tom and Tom seem so fractured now. I think the scales have fallen from Schwartz’s eyes.
It’s about time
Is Sandoval EVER gonna say Sorry, Period? This is not about other people on the cast, its about him! Crazy. I'm proud of Lala and I can't believe I'm saying this bc I was so disgusted with her bully nature from day 1 she came VPR. I believe Scheana has the right to her feelings. This was years of real friendship with Sandoval. It's hard for her.
Lala is unhinged
I feel like Sandoval been torn apart enough!!! All these people cheated or did something horrendous to other people at one time or another! Yet its easy for everyone to bully Sandoval..he needs to stop saying sorry and just own it and move on...then people will leave him alone..
Maybe if he stopped being a bully they would. He’s a pos
Is time Sandoval pushes back the haters. He still being humiliated for letting his relationship take its course. Thats an option when u shack up and not marry.
Funny how Sleazy indicated that He Would NEVER do that?? He said the exact same thing about his affair when they asked him during his confessional before he got caught.
For Schwartz it's never the time to open up the history books. They have gone from good time partying in their 20s to bitter angry middle aged people who would never be friends if not for the show. Its the greatest.
3:15 well Ariana, you got him from Kristen 🤷♀️
Tom is playing you Lala. He needs the friend.