When I was twenty years old and in Vietnam I ordered all of my stereo stuff ( Pioneer receiver, tape deck, speakers, turntable and headphones) from the Military Exchange. Today I am 70 years old. My stereo stuff still works great..............Me? Not so much. 😊🇺🇸🚁
But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. [Isaiah 40:31]
Mr. Terry, I see you used the helicopter emoji and wonder what outfit you were with. I myself flew in recent years with the Green Feet (Jolly) (HH-60) . Love hearing the old guys out there and what birds they flew on!
I'm 49 but as a teenager I "inherited" all my vietnam vet stepfather's top of the line pioneer equipment he had bought in the late 70s early 80s when we were stationed in Germany.
@@prestond19 I was a pilot (1970) with A troop 7/1st Air Cavalry. We had AH-1G Cobra Attack Helicopters, UH-1H Huey Helicopters and OH-6 Scout helicopters. We hunted the “bad guys” every day. Business was good.♠
I can't thank you enough. I have tried all sorts of methods, jacks, amplifiers, etc. to play my mp3's and premium music sites through my existing stereo system. Never with any luck. Everything either buzzed or was garbled. This works perfectly. This gives a whole new life to my system!
I still have my Marantz 2230, Realistic T-100 tower speakers, and a Garrard SL-95B. All were bought new in the mid 70's and are still working great. There is a special charm and warmth to fully analog that seems to just not be there with fully digital. We're 10-10 on the side.
My dad had the same receiver! I use to spin the tuning wheel on the right in 1983. I really love that look and the quality of the components is lovely.
My mom had that Marantz 2250 B... Brought back memories of me listening to professional Shure Head Phones in the late 70's on the shag carpet floor listening to Pink Floyd Animal's ... Great way to meditate.
@@breakerbroke23 Edger Winter Frankenstein while looking at the 2001 Space Odyssey album cover would fit perfectly if you were slightly inhibited by mind altering substances too
Back in the early 80s, a friend of mine had that exact Marantz receiver, and I remember our amazement over the tuner dial: thanks to a rather heavy flywheel, just a single flick of the dial would make the 'pointer' go all the way from one end to the other, and stop with an audible "clunk". It sounded great too btw.
Wow... Great help! I have a 33 year old "Rockstar" Onkyo M-5150 amp with a separate pre-amp hooked up to a pair of Klipschorns and this is the info I absolutely needed. With all the toys I have in my house, I still like my CD's just like I love my 12 year old blk Porsche 911 C4S Cabriolet.. Classics never die... Kudos and thx.
Nice job ! I invested a substantial amount of $ into my home stereo in the vintage time frame and was always wanting to Bluetooth my system as my main music was on LP that just hasn’t cut it for a long time. I’ve always been meaning to but never checked it out I stumblyon this and it is perfect for what I want! Thanks!
This video really gives a great option to use vintage equipment with modern technology. Love how you demonstrated the process. Keep the superior videos coming. :))
Beautiful Marantz! I added BT to my old Yamaha rx-v990. I bought and returned a new 7.1 Onkyo and Denon receiver due to sound quality. Nothing compares to vintage gear.
@Terry Melvin Yeah, and I wish things were still built that way. My Model 250M power amp is about 12X10 inches or so but weighs a ton with massive, finned heat sinks. I replaced the power transistors years ago - just because it was easy.
Been streaming on my old Sansui for 15 years using Airport. OK, WiFi, not BT, but I can stream from my Mac, MacBook, iPhone and iPad beautifully. SO much better than any BT setup I have tried. Stream to any room in my house at the same time without the range issues BT has, and I can control the music from anywhere in my network. don't make 'em anymore but they still work great. AND I can play all my own music, well over 100 GB, stored centrally, using 's Remote app. All that said, I have old cars, and those BT receivers are great for playing my music without having to butcher the car by fitting a modern head unit. I might check out that Fusion unit.
I have the same receiver that I bought in 1974. Only problem is some crackle static noise when I adjust volume. Going to get some electrical cleaner to spray in there to hopefully take care of that. Just yesterday I bumped one of the slider knobs and it cracked the inside where it clamps onto the metal stem which bummed me out. It’s in my garage giving me pleasure when I work out there still going strong. Great video and I think I may add this to it to get more enjoyment out of this classic piece of equipment!
Yes just open the receiver up and shoot some Deox in while working the knob back and forth.amzn.to/2uoDVnL Im glad you still have the rig you bought in 74, I have a few electronics I bought back then and I cherish these items. They don't build things like they used to :)
Interesting approach, would never have considered the solution from the car audio world. Dig. I've been wary to add bluetooth, just hooked up Schiit DAC and plug in an old phone with wifi to the dac and control Spotify from my daily use phone from wherever I be sitting. Perfection.
I had a 6' stack of nice Marantz receivers of this vintage from 2216 to 2270 to 2275 to 2325 and sold them all except my 2250B because it seemed to have the most tube-like openness of all.
That's pretty cool I recently had a friend of mine MAC 1900 in for a little clean and repair, he had bought it new back in the 70's. Not sure why Macintosh named them receivers MAC's... could have been it wasn't separate components like the rest of the line they manufactured? years of serving tunes in his shop had it pretty filled with sawdust. It didn't require much, the pre amp cards and driver card needed to be pulled out and sockets cleaned and she was off to the races ... oh that and some new lamps here and there
Just Traveling I bought mine in 1974 and it’s in my garage happily still pumping out the tunes for me to enjoy. This was so cool seeing one on here. Such a classy lookin receiver. Only problem mine has I’d some crackle sound when I adjust the volume. Wonder if some electrical cleaner would stop that?
@@ssng1 Its worth a try. Mine developed a quirk where you'd have to "drop it" from about 2 inches to make it come on. I gave it to a ten year old neighbor kid who didn't mid dropping it occasionally.
I love your 2250, it's a real beauty and in great condition. Please take it off that CD player. I am glad to see people having fun with the vintage stuff, if you take care of it, it will last a lifetime and be much better than what they will sell you today, in the same category of course. Also, there is nothing "audiophile" that I have seen here, rather it is great high fidelity audio equipment that sounds great and is more fun to play with than any "audiophile" equipment.
In the Marantz's normal operating location the CD is on the shelf above the Marantz, so technically its is not touching it.:) audiophile means nothing to me, some of the most boring systems Iv ever heard were the megga $ setups. I like to have fun when I listen to music, sometimes I like tons of low end sometimes I like flat and mellow. audiophiles decry tone controls and anything else other than vinyl. Boring! Many years ago my friend (he is not into audio) asked me what are the best speakers you can buy... I answered, the speakers that sound great to YOU. Cheers
I've been toying with adding a Bluetooth module to my Onkyo system in the living room but was worried it would sound like crap. Now I know how to make it work properly - thanks!
The built in BT on my Yamaha R-N803 (made in 2017) is pale in comparison in terms of sound quality and high end to the my new separate unit Blume HD Pro. I no longer use the internal BT on my Yamaha. I highly recommend getting a separate.
How cool: I have the Marantz 2226B that I bought new back in the mid 70’s its in my cabinet looking very spiffy, my orders to my children, “DO NOT TOSS IT OUT” by this video it can be brought up to modern standards. 👍🏻
I know this is an old video but im glad i come across it by mistake i was already looking into getting this very line driver and didn't even realize thats what you were going to be using.
Full Retro System I use an audioengine b1 Bluetooth 5.0 and feed a rebuilt 1975 Marantz 1060 (30w per ch) to drive four 1975 KEF 104s on a large mantel piece because it’s the only place to put them. Total price for all equipment on ebay would be about $1,500 or less. I have seen the KEFs elsewhere for as little as $300 a set. I bought one set of KEFs in 1975 because they were the speakers I liked best in all the DC area. That includes Klipschorns. I think the KEFs retailed for $500 each which was a month's take home pay each. I bought the other set (104ab) on ebay from Australia for total about $600. The Marantz accommodates two sets of speakers and also includes click-stop bass, mid and treble knobs. I set mine at plus one, minus two, and minus one. Plus some room baffles. PS: My KEFs have never been recapped and I doubt the ones from Australia were either. I have had them for 15 years myself.
The 1060 is a nice sounding amplifier, there is a Pioneer 30wpc Amp that is an almost exact clone (circuit design wise) to the 1060, wish I could remember the model number. I have listened to some KEF speakers many years ago, they sounded very good, not sure what model they were. CRS:) Great comment. Cheers
Cool beans, good stuff. I have moved for the umpteenth time, finally to my retirement home for now, and am working on integrating quite an amount of good stereo gear acquired over the years. You videos will help. I subscribed. I also added two of your videos to a playlist of videos I am watching to get my act together. Kudos to you.
Thank you so much, I am in the middle of a relocation.( moving is a pain in the A$$ isn't it ? ) I cant wait to get into our hopefully final home. Cheers.
Does the JL audio adapter have good separation for 4 channels? Looking for the highest quality Bluetooth adapter for my car. Sick of FM transmitters. I’m losing so much fidelity using FM, and it’s not giving my system full potential.
Just FYI, I added "Mii B06 Plus Bluetooth Receiver" I got from Amazon back in 2019, to my JVC Stereo Receiver I use in my garage. The wall wart plugged directly into my receiver AC jacks (switched) ran RCA outputs into Aux RCA on receiver and it has worked perfectly. The only source I have used is my phone sending BT over to this unit. Bottom line, it has worked great w/o need for additional amp to drive circuit to a line level input. Less than $30 and solves everything with less wires. Looks like now for $10 more you can get the same but with longer range. I only use the garage receiver to play from BT (no CD, turntable, etc.) but with my receiver set at about 40% volume my volume on phone is more than enough. Maybe not best solution for all but for my setup and less than $30 I find it to be great.
AND.... Nowadays some BT receivers with RCA outputs are the proper 2.0 Volt RMS output level. Most of the good ones that is. Thanks for your comment and Cheers.
great follow up Video, Thanks , i sort of laugh these days because my 27 year old Son and all his Buddies are now discovering how good all the older Analog and Equipment sounds from the 70s and 80s of course a downfall of the older equipment is no Bluetooth and limited models with Remote Control ability i must admit that even myself enjoys listening to Pandora and other Bluetooth Venues but do hate the rinky dinky swapping of mini jacks and RCA plugs to get things to work i appreciate you sharing your knowledge and components to make it easier to do so in a more professional manner
I just bought a Sonos Move and Sonos One because of the great reviews on the sound. Comparing it to my HK integrated amp, Mission speakers and a 1991 Technics CD changer the Sonos sound thin. And this is a simple late ‘80’s early ‘90’s set up. I think MP3 stolen Napster audio handicapped a generation of listeners.
You are both right! But it is important to crimp first, and solder second if you choose to do both*. If you solder first, then crimp a soldered joint, it will get loose. Think of the solder as a very, very thick liquid... over time, it will flow enough so that the joint is weakened. *Why do both? Crimp for strength, solder for electrical integrity.
Nice. Good stuff. I've the 2235B - can't ever part with it. This is the kinda tinkering I used to do 10 years ago when it was all still sorta new. Played with Pi for a long time as well but I've boxed most of it. A while back I bought a Bluesound Node 2i and threw that in the mix and it does everything I need it to in a tidy little box. Never will take the Marantz out of the mix though.
@@breakerbroke23 For sure - I intend to. I just priced them a day or two and it's bananas how they've inflated. All the good 70s ones really. Spent 2 decades with my dad's bought-new-in-late-'72 Pioneer SX-727. Regret letting that one go (back around 05 to fund playing with quads I'd always wanted much earlier but couldn't afford) but always loved that Pioneer. The Marantz is a bit better but similar. Anyhow. Cheers back to you ya. Cool channel. :)
I appreciate your taking the time to share the way you solved the low level coming out of most Bluetooth to audio receivers, however I ´d like to share that I was lucky to try in the first place a LOGITECH bluetooth receiver, cheap, simple and has great sound. You only need to connect it to any 5v cel phone charger to power it, and presto! I´ve helped some friends having the same problem when using some other brand BT receivers and I pass the Logitech recommendation. It sells for less than $20 USD. I hope this helps many others.
I vaguely remember as a kid playing around with the old record player that it had the same issue as the bluetooth receiver. You had to crank it pass half way but if you turned the knob to the radio tuner you needed to turn the volume way down if you didn't want to wake the dead with the volume.
Great video. A blutooth-ready external DAC, might also be an option. I opted for a blutooth receiver with SPDIF (both Optical/Coaxial) out, allowing connection to an external DAC before the amp. That way, the volume out is as good as what the DAC provides, using a DAC, which has better chips and power supply with more punchy ummpth out of the RCA (red/white) out. The DAC Im using is the Schiit Modi 3 and this is hooked up to my vintage amp (Denon PMA-250III). If your DAC has extra inputs i.e TOSLINK/USB in, you can also hook up your PC,CD/DVD/TV with a nice, good quality RCA cable to your vintage amp's input (ovbz not the phono input, that's for a moving magnet turntable). Also, if you are an audiphile, not happy with bluetooth and want to cast from device using wifi, you can also use a normal chromecast connected to a hdmi to SPDIF extractor (bit messy though) or a chromecast audio (discontinued but can be found on ebay), which usually has a combined 3.5 stereo jack but also a mini TOSLINK for optical out for external DAC (or AV receiver) connectivity.
Screw those units. Get a Radsone Earstudio ES100. It's a Bluetooth DAC/ Amp receiver with duel amps l/r and balanced and unbalanced outputs. It has an actual pre-amp setting and you can change how much gain there is whether it's in pre-amp mode or headphones mode. It has settings that can allow it to act as a pre-amp while being charged while playing whatever source you want. All it's controls are through the companion app free on the Appstore or Googles Playstore. It's probably the best Bluetooth Receiver you can buy and it also happens to be a DAC Amp as well. Cost is $79 to $99 depending on where and sales.
We're not talking little kid blue tooth here dude. Radsone (LOL)! Get yourself an old school amp paired with some nice speakers and you'll hear sounds you never knew existed.
@@kennethm.380 Dude, I already have all of that. We talking portable right? Or for your computer and headphones? And Bluetooth 5.0 is actually really good now. But nope, as far portable and having Bluetooth 5.0 and capable of turning your old school setup into a new school setup backed up with all of the functionality this thing has, I'm telling you that you need to get out of the dark ages. I'm 50 years old and been a decent audiophile for 30 of them. And I'm telling YOU that you don't know what you're talking about. But just as a DAC Amp don't let its size fool you. It sounds really good. And for the money, it's a no brainer.
If it is not used the Phono input does the same thing, there will be a pre-amp on the phono path to amp up what the needle and cartridge put out. If you have a turntable connected this is a good option. Glad you made this vid, I didn't know those pre-amps were still available.
In simple terms, the Phono input will not work, it is way to sensitive and a standard line level will overdrive the Pre amp. Also the Phono input has RIAA equalization and that will not mach the frequency response of a standard line level signal. Cheers.
@@breakerbroke23 ok, I guess that is amp specific, I had an old Dual years ago that didn't have a phono in and I got a pre-amp at Radio Shack. I later had a Hatachi that had phono in and I used it for a few things, one being for a small personal CD player that was a thing before iPods.
Yes the BT receivers will plug into your amplifier/ pre-amp through the AUX, Tape, CD inputs. This is a old video and the new version devices do NOT need this pre-amp. You can check out my favorite devices on this video th-cam.com/video/ZtzxRSkFTvY/w-d-xo.html these units will just plug in VIA RCAs and will have proper output... Cheers
I have watched a couple of your videos and appreciate the information you provide. I am setting up a sound system in a man cave and I also DJ on occasion and I am wondering if you have ever set up bluetooth to a stereo from a PC to a stereo with a dedicated music program such as the old Music Match software. I would like to have the stereo in one part of the room and the computer in another like a laptop on a table or desk top computer behind the bar. I would assume that it would work similar to a phones bluetooth correct?
Yes I think your idea would work, not sure how your PCs Bluetooth would work range wise ( so far iam not a fan of windows 10 Bluetooth possessing ) but if you have problems getting a solid performing signal from your PC then maybe try a Miccus RTX2 transmitter(300ft model) and grab audio from a headphone jack on your PC. This is what I do when trying to send BT from my PC to a speaker or my home receiver. Cheers and merry Christmas ...... BB23
Note.... New BT receivers like the BLT-HD and IFI Zen Blue do not need this extra "boost" as modern BT receivers are the correct RCA output levels.. Cheers
Indeed! Those old receivers were made to last forever In Japan not stupid China Gonna try this out in my garage I can probably use the identical components on my vintage car that I’m adding a modern stereo to.
Wow! I feel old. I remember when made in Japan was the equivalent of made in China. They even wanted to make a province named "USA" pronounced You-sa so they could label stuff made in USA. They got their act together.
You did a great job explaining your Bluetooth installation. However I did not find it necessary to do all of this work. I picked a Bluetooth receiver for about $20.00 on eBay, plugged it in and it worked fine. Great equal volume, good fidelity and range. No need to do any of the adaptations you displayed. Sorry that the one you chose was not robust.
You are correct but does your BT receiver give you the same volume as your other inputs, ie. FM, CD,TV,VCR, more than likely not, this is why I use the pre-amp. Then when listening to BT you dont have to crank up the receivers volume to get good audio. Try listening to BT at any desired level, then without turning the volume down, switch to FM or CD, it will probably blow you out of the house:) Thanks for watching....BB23
Thanks you so much for providing a likely solution to the issue I had using the Sonos Connect. Just about blew up my speakers when I inadvertently switched from the Sonos input to the FM input on my Marantz Amp. Gave the Connect back to the owner. Super good explanation of why I was having the problem. Cheers!
so I have the 2 wire (loose end) of the ac adapter, the 2 wire (loose black & red end) off of LD10 and 2 wire loose (black and red end) off of bluetooth adapter - do these 6 wires then all get tied together at LD to make 1 splice ?
No APTX, the fusion is A2DP Bluetooth 3.0. Yes a bit old school but the BT 100 has very good audio and decent range (RX). Back when I did this video this was common. Now in the "real world" head to head comparison from the fusion to the new units that I use, the A2DP does have a good sound through these old receivers and it still blows away the newer and cheaper modern BT units from say wally world and Amazon. ( yes, I have made A&B comparisons, I trust no manufactures VS my ear. ) Great comment and thank you for watching.
Hello! Great video. How did u get the same music from your phone as your am fm station? I ask because id like todo this set up in my cars amp and also be able to listen to am fm stereo (news, talk radio etc).. and otherwise play music from phone, bluetooth. Excluding the car stereo and long rca wiring to the rear. Short rca from interfaces to the amp is ok
On the Marantz I have to set the PAC gain controls at full output, On my Technics SA 404 I set at 2/3 gain. Depends as to what BT unit I use as well. Thank you for watching my videos.... BB23
@@breakerbroke23 I see. My head units all digital....i don't think I can adjust the gain on it. I was thinking if buying what you mentioned. Ive seen your other video. Trying not to blow my system...but want to play my tunes from my phone.
I enjoyed your video and I ran into the same level mis-matching when I tried this on my setup a while back. I'm now going to try your solution with a PAC line driver. Where do you get those nice Solder-on male RCA jacks?
The ends I used were leftover stock from my Car Stereo Business circa 1992:) Just look up some on Amazon, they do have some nice ones on the cheap. Like these... amzn.to/2QpfFKA
Yes, sounds like it should work fine. However I’ve never found any bluetooth receiver to have the fidelity I prefer, esp for a high quality home stereo system. Some people are not nearly as critical of sound quality as I am, so many would be just fine with such a setup.
Mike K i am doing something like this already with a FiiO D3 DAC feeding into a little bear P5 valve pre amp and finally into my Creek CAS 4040 amp. The sounds are quite simply awesome and blow my existing CD player out of the water in terms of volume levels, clarity of detail and stereo imaging and bass. I can now use my Samsung J5 phone as a front end as well to directly stream flac audio into the FiiO D3 with the android market audio player pro app. Have a fiddle with a few aftermarket black boxes like this and you will be smitten. I like yourself have found bluetooth to be a bit thin, lacklustre and anemic sounding. I just use a wired USB OTG connecter straight from my phone into the FiiO D3 coaxial. It also has an optical in option as well which i use with the optical toslink port on my hackintosh computer. I have tried this set up without the little bear P5 pre amp in line feeding the DAC straight into aux on the Creek and it is a much harsher and brittle sound. The tubes on the pre amp add some warmth and colouration without losing focus, detail or bass. I can best describe it as sounding pretty musically descriptive like my old vinyl set up but with a lot more precision. Win, win for me but do use good quality reference digital recordings to get the very best sound out of it.
MrDegsy69 Sounds like a nice setup, I myself love tube equipment as well. So the FiiO D3 DAC has a bluetooth receiver built in, with all these high quality hardline type inputs as well? Reason why I ask is because the few bluetooth receivers I’ve used have always sound hash and lifeless.
@@repairfreak Mike K The FiiO D3 i have does not have bluetooth built in (i think its 1st generation according to the amazon review in the link) but i cannot vouch for later incarnations? The components i have listed are true bargain basement items apart from the Creek CAS 4040 which is of mid eighties vintage and has just recently been recapped and having it large right here and now in 2020! It really is mindblowing what you can actually achieve with a few bargain basement hifi components. I really don't know what 'Ben Latour' is on about as 'nah' is a rather glib and childlike comment but i would love to see him do better with such little coin? You are absolutely right about bluetooth though. My connection into the FiiO D3 DAC is hard wired through USB OTG into the coaxial and optically via the Toslink optical out as in the case of the hackintosh computer. I have used the little bear pre amp gain control to match the line level to my turntable and i am comparing this to my Linn LP12 playing legacy vinyl from my pre Y2K collection and it sounds pretty good to my ears! Intially i had pretty low expectations for this combo as good hifi has got to be expensive right? It really amazed me just how good these entry level hifi components sounded. The built in phono input stage on my creek amp is already pretty good but fitting a valve pre amp between the aux and DAC for digital sources has definitely inspired me to source an even better valve pre amp. www.amazon.co.uk/FiiO-Taishan-D03K-Digital-Decoder/dp/B009346RSS/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?hvadid=80264380943542&hvbmt=bp&hvdev=m&hvqmt=p&keywords=fiio+d3&qid=1578867588&sr=8-1 www.amazon.com/Little-puffer-Preamp-Preamplifier-amplifier/dp/B00OY1PR9K
soo sorry sold my 2250 ! But my 1980's powerful Pioneer is running are hole surround system in living room without a glitch ..Did install the fiber optics for the new Big Screen and now sounds better then before ?
Highly recommend the Earstudio ES100 Bluetooth if you want a high resolution Bluetooth connection with customization. It has an auto power off/on mode which will allow you to power the device on with the receivers power and the app is simply amazing for tweaking. You can use the pre-amp in the app to set the volume levels to your liking too. I own two of these devices and nothing else comes close to what they can deliver. It's a 3.5mm connector so you'll need to get a 3.5mm to RCA as well as an USB charger to plug the device into a receiver but it's light years advanced compared to most Bluetooth adapters on the market.
Plus it has all the important codecs on board like: (from best to mediocre) LDAC, APTX-HD, APTX-LL, APTX, ABC, SBC. The LDAC is truly amazing equal to or almost equal to wired connection.
Thanks for the detailed info CAL_08 000, much appreciated. I really like the idea that there's an app to control the output level and EQ. Lots of possibilities with this sort of tech.
Yes it will work with most any receiver but with the new receivers that are out nowadays this is not needed, the new BT units now have the proper line out voltage. The higher end units that is. And after you buy a older HK and then the preamp you might as well just get something like this.. th-cam.com/video/BoZ-rWvpYSs/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/8AjZPbF8W24/w-d-xo.html These units put out the full 2volt RCA signal, so preamp is not necessary. Cheers.
Can you please tell me how to connect the power wire from the Bluetooth adapter to the PAC led-10 line driver. That was confusing to me exactly how this is done. Thanks, Glenn
Hook the positive wire from the AC Adapter to both + wires from the PAC And BT adapter And the negative wire from the AC Adapter to the negative wires of the PAC and BT adapter. Cheers
All you need is a cheap multi meter or a tester that will tell you which is positive or negative. Once you find that out it is quite simple, sometimes these adapters come with a plug fitted, it will tell you which wire is positive, it will usually go to the centre pin, but it will show a "C" shape with a -- to the other connection. The line will point to the centre pin a DOT and the "C" shape will be the outer part of the pin. Depending what type of adapter you get. Any 12 volt DC adapter will run it, if from the wall or wall socket, the only advantage of powering it from the Amplifier is it will turn off with the amplifier.
Fabulous! I have that Marantz! I'm not big into blue tooth but may just have to try this. Do you do any videos around cleaning the receiver internally to keep it purring?
breakerbroke23, can you do a video on cleaning the volume controls? I have an old quad Marantz that is really scratchy when you adjust the volume, it has four controls stacked for the volume, thanks.
Hi! I’m Pretty new to everything-Can I do this with my pioneer sx-424? I just got a pair of pioneer cs-r590 speakers what would you recommend me get to connect them? Anything helps!!
Yes a modern BT receiver will work great with your pioneer. However... BT receivers have come a long way since this video was made. I made this video because most receivers at the time did not have the proper RCA line level output, now most good ones have the correct level. They are a bit more money but will match up with your pioneer the best IMHO.. BluDento www.bludento.com/ use promo code BB23 to get the best price When using a receiver like this one you will NOT have to add this pre-amp, just plug directly into you AUX in.
im trying to add bluetooth to a 1967 Magnavox Astro Sonic console without a stock RCA. any ideas how to connect one of these bluetooth devices to something that old?
I dont think you have any AUX type inputs on that stereo? Not sure. I would try to search google for that amp circuit and see if some one has taped into the pre amp section and added a RCA input. Sorry, I wish I could be more help.
I use a logitec BT adapter hooked to my AUX in....it's plugged in to my switched plug on the amplifier so comes on when the amp is turned on. Sound is clear with plenty bass....$30 on Amazon.
@@breakerbroke23 I've used many amp where the phono channel will boost anything you plug into it to the point of blowing your speakers with ease. Depends on the amp I guess.
Thank you, great job! I have the same problem with my daughters 4k tv and the streaming channels. Connected to a yamaha htr5590, 6. 1 receiver by optical cable. I have no hdmi input or output on my receiver. It is also used as a monitor and her pc is connected by optical cable and it sounds amazing, but when switched to streaming it sounds like garbage and I lose a lot of bass and volume, even with dual 12 inch subs. Would getting an optical to hdmi converter box fix the problem, or do I need one of the pac drivers? The tv is a tcl 43421, series four. Thank you for your time, be safe.
Honestly I don't know if you need the optical to hdmi converter, I have never played with anything like that. The line driver will amplify RCA audio signals only. Sorry I wish I could be more help.
When you say streaming channels do you mean Netflix / Amazon etc? If so they are just quiet. Not sure if it helps but my wife got me a PS4 for birthday and it only has HDMI output but I have TOS link Yamaha 5.1 receiver - no hdmi. I got one of the hdmi to optical boxes off Amazon ... About £15-20. Works lie a charm BUT the Netflix/Amazon is still low level output even thru this box. Same on the smart TV. Whenever we switch over we know we gotta be careful with the volume. Not sure why digital streams are so low. Just are I guess.
@@stephenhookings1985 Hey thank you Stephen! That is exactly what hers does. Her pc sounds amazing with toslink, but the volume and bass are definitely noticeably lower when I go through the tv apps. That's a RIP off huh? Told her she didnt need a smart tv, but 4k monitors for 43 inches are ridiculous. She can stream from her pc, and can decode up to 7.1, or 7.2 digital surround, and be fine! Damn menus suck on smart TVs anyway. I got her receiver for 25 bucks with remote. Yamaha htr-5590 at auction for 25 bucks. Time to get a newer one with hdmi. I thought a box like yours would fix it, dang it! Check the auctions for some good deals! Thanks again man, much appreciated! Be safe out there.
@@breakerbroke23 Thank you for the response much appreciated! I need to do a little more research. Has to be a way to fix this. Otherwise that is a serious design flaw in my opinion. Be safe.
@@grinningintheirface2685 - well to be clear - the hdmi to optical is great. I get my full 5.1 - it is not the adapator at fault with streaming - their levels are jsut quiet. Kind if in the opposite way to how volume is automatically boosted when adverts come on. So even my integrated TV is quiet ... cia buikt in speakers or tos link. Its the streams not ny gear. If u can get a cheap 2nd hand box with hdmi then great. I am very happy with mine because my Yamaha amp souds great. I just turn the volume up when i watch Prime or Netflix. Prime is quieter than terrestrial broadcast and NetFlix is about that much than Prime again. Sucks. But its them not me :-)
Well you guys from out of states the PAC LD-10 is available on Amazon for 25 bucks US. Thanks for a great video I was trying to figure out a way to get more punch out of my iPhone using the headset jack I’m sure with this piggyback system it will sound awesome and easier to use through Bluetooth... love those Marantz receivers.
When I was twenty years old and in Vietnam I ordered all of my stereo stuff ( Pioneer receiver, tape deck, speakers, turntable and headphones) from the Military Exchange. Today I am 70 years old. My stereo stuff still works great..............Me? Not so much. 😊🇺🇸🚁
But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. [Isaiah 40:31]
Kenneth M. You know, that’s exactly what I thought.
Mr. Terry, I see you used the helicopter emoji and wonder what outfit you were with. I myself flew in recent years with the Green Feet (Jolly) (HH-60) . Love hearing the old guys out there and what birds they flew on!
I'm 49 but as a teenager I "inherited" all my vietnam vet stepfather's top of the line pioneer equipment he had bought in the late 70s early 80s when we were stationed in Germany.
@@prestond19 I was a pilot (1970) with A troop 7/1st Air Cavalry. We had AH-1G Cobra Attack Helicopters, UH-1H Huey Helicopters and OH-6 Scout helicopters.
We hunted the “bad guys” every day.
Business was good.♠
I bought a New Marantz Stereo in 1973 and it was Stunning... Craftsmanship, Colorful Lighting and Sound... Loved it! 💥💥💥💥💥
Just like cars, they sure don't make receivers & amps like they used to...
I can't thank you enough. I have tried all sorts of methods, jacks, amplifiers, etc. to play my mp3's and premium music sites through my existing stereo system. Never with any luck. Everything either buzzed or was garbled. This works perfectly. This gives a whole new life to my system!
I still have my Marantz 2230, Realistic T-100 tower speakers, and a Garrard SL-95B. All were bought new in the mid 70's and are still working great. There is a special charm and warmth to fully analog that seems to just not be there with fully digital. We're 10-10 on the side.
My dad had the same receiver! I use to spin the tuning wheel on the right in 1983. I really love that look and the quality of the components is lovely.
I have been saying for at least 2 years that I wanted to do this and it just wasn't made and yet here it is!
I have a 2250B with rebuilt Advent speakers. purchased it in 1976, sounds better than any digital receiver.
Try out Sansui from this era, won’t be disappointed.
My mom had that Marantz 2250 B... Brought back memories of me listening to professional Shure Head Phones in the late 70's on the shag carpet floor listening to Pink Floyd Animal's ... Great way to meditate.
Animals.. One of my all time favorite Floyd ALBUMS :)
@@breakerbroke23 Edger Winter Frankenstein while looking at the 2001 Space Odyssey album cover would fit perfectly if you were slightly inhibited by mind altering substances too
Back in the early 80s, a friend of mine had that exact Marantz receiver, and I remember our amazement over the tuner dial: thanks to a rather heavy flywheel, just a single flick of the dial would make the 'pointer' go all the way from one end to the other, and stop with an audible "clunk". It sounded great too btw.
Wow... Great help! I have a 33 year old "Rockstar" Onkyo M-5150 amp with a separate pre-amp hooked up to a pair of Klipschorns and this is the info I absolutely needed. With all the toys I have in my house, I still like my CD's just like I love my 12 year old blk Porsche 911 C4S Cabriolet.. Classics never die... Kudos and thx.
K Horns... Iam jealous.
.... of coarse you have a Porsche 911 cabriolet. You must be a man of discriminating taste
Nice job ! I invested a substantial amount of $ into my home stereo in the vintage time frame and was always wanting to Bluetooth my system as my main music was on LP that just hasn’t cut it for a long time. I’ve always been meaning to but never checked it out I stumblyon this and it is perfect for what I want! Thanks!
This video really gives a great option to use vintage equipment with modern technology. Love how you demonstrated the process. Keep the superior videos coming. :))
Many Thanks.
That’s my Marantz! Loved it. College days, that was not cheap by any means
They have gone up a a few hundred dollars in just the last four or five years.
Beautiful Marantz! I added BT to my old Yamaha rx-v990. I bought and returned a new 7.1 Onkyo and Denon receiver due to sound quality. Nothing compares to vintage gear.
You are 100% spot on my friend.
That is a beautiful receiver. I love the look of those old things.
Wow! I have a Marantz receiver and power amp of that vintage - loved that style, still do. Thanks for this.
@Terry Melvin Yeah, and I wish things were still built that way. My Model 250M power amp is about 12X10 inches or so but weighs a ton with massive, finned heat sinks. I replaced the power transistors years ago - just because it was easy.
I just did this to my Vintage Marantz with Bose 901 took 5 min sounds great !
Been streaming on my old Sansui for 15 years using Airport. OK, WiFi, not BT, but I can stream from my Mac, MacBook, iPhone and iPad beautifully. SO much better than any BT setup I have tried. Stream to any room in my house at the same time without the range issues BT has, and I can control the music from anywhere in my network. don't make 'em anymore but they still work great. AND I can play all my own music, well over 100 GB, stored centrally, using 's Remote app.
All that said, I have old cars, and those BT receivers are great for playing my music without having to butcher the car by fitting a modern head unit. I might check out that Fusion unit.
I have the same receiver that I bought in 1974. Only problem is some crackle static noise when I adjust volume. Going to get some electrical cleaner to spray in there to hopefully take care of that. Just yesterday I bumped one of the slider knobs and it cracked the inside where it clamps onto the metal stem which bummed me out. It’s in my garage giving me pleasure when I work out there still going strong. Great video and I think I may add this to it to get more enjoyment out of this classic piece of equipment!
Yes just open the receiver up and shoot some Deox in while working the knob back and forth.amzn.to/2uoDVnL
Im glad you still have the rig you bought in 74, I have a few electronics I bought back then and I cherish these items. They don't build things like they used to :)
@@breakerbroke23 Deoxing it works! Try it. Crackle gone. Balance/volume improved drastically.
Interesting approach, would never have considered the solution from the car audio world. Dig. I've been wary to add bluetooth, just hooked up Schiit DAC and plug in an old phone with wifi to the dac and control Spotify from my daily use phone from wherever I be sitting. Perfection.
sounds like a nice setup.
Chromecast audio adapter is far better than bluetooth, flac files played over wifi sound fantastic. I use roksan K 1 LIII amp and B&W 683 S2 .
I had a 6' stack of nice Marantz receivers of this vintage from 2216 to 2270 to 2275 to 2325 and sold them all except my 2250B because it seemed to have the most tube-like openness of all.
I miss my 2245.
That's pretty cool
I recently had a friend of mine MAC 1900 in for a little clean and repair, he had bought it new back in the 70's. Not sure why Macintosh named them receivers MAC's... could have been it wasn't separate components like the rest of the line they manufactured? years of serving tunes in his shop had it pretty filled with sawdust. It didn't require much, the pre amp cards and driver card needed to be pulled out and sockets cleaned and she was off to the races ... oh that and some new lamps here and there
Aside from all the bluetooth stuff, that's a nice Marantz receiver.
I had a Marantz 2250, purchased from Pacific Stereo in 1973. Its nice seeing one again.
Wow how much was it, back then? You can still get these on Craigslist, usually in pretty good condition
Just Traveling I bought mine in 1974 and it’s in my garage happily still pumping out the tunes for me to enjoy. This was so cool seeing one on here. Such a classy lookin receiver. Only problem mine has I’d some crackle sound when I adjust the volume. Wonder if some electrical cleaner would stop that?
@@ssng1 Its worth a try. Mine developed a quirk where you'd have to "drop it" from about 2 inches to make it come on. I gave it to a ten year old neighbor kid who didn't mid dropping it occasionally.
Thanks for putting this up! For me this is a treasure of information.
I love your 2250, it's a real beauty and in great condition. Please take it off that CD player. I am glad to see people having fun with the vintage stuff, if you take care of it, it will last a lifetime and be much better than what they will sell you today, in the same category of course. Also, there is nothing "audiophile" that I have seen here, rather it is great high fidelity audio equipment that sounds great and is more fun to play with than any "audiophile" equipment.
In the Marantz's normal operating location the CD is on the shelf above the Marantz, so technically its is not touching it.:)
audiophile means nothing to me, some of the most boring systems Iv ever heard were the megga $ setups. I like to have fun when I listen to music, sometimes I like tons of low end sometimes I like flat and mellow. audiophiles decry tone controls and anything else other than vinyl. Boring! Many years ago my friend (he is not into audio) asked me what are the best speakers you can buy... I answered, the speakers that sound great to YOU. Cheers
Hey Mac, go away. It's his stuff. He likes it.
I've been toying with adding a Bluetooth module to my Onkyo system in the living room but was worried it would sound like crap. Now I know how to make it work properly - thanks!
It will still sound like crap.
@@nickv4073 I tryed this and all i get is hum and noise..so your right
The built in BT on my Yamaha R-N803 (made in 2017) is pale in comparison in terms of sound quality and high end to the my new separate unit Blume HD Pro. I no longer use the internal BT on my Yamaha. I highly recommend getting a separate.
nice Marantz! I recently picked up the Marantz 4430 Quadradial..great sounding recievers!
50 years ago I owned a 2220B. It was nice to see your B series.
Just completed this upgrade, using your step by step. Works perfect, thanks.
How cool: I have the Marantz 2226B that I bought new back in the mid 70’s its in my cabinet looking very spiffy, my orders to my children, “DO NOT TOSS IT OUT” by this video it can be brought up to modern standards. 👍🏻
"Do Not Toss Out" That needs to find its way into your will.
I will give it a nice home.
I know this is an old video but im glad i come across it by mistake i was already looking into getting this very line driver and didn't even realize thats what you were going to be using.
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I use an audioengine b1 Bluetooth 5.0 and feed a rebuilt 1975 Marantz 1060 (30w per ch) to drive four 1975 KEF 104s on a large mantel piece because it’s the only place to put them. Total price for all equipment on ebay would be about $1,500 or less. I have seen the KEFs elsewhere for as little as $300 a set.
I bought one set of KEFs in 1975 because they were the speakers I liked best in all the DC area. That includes Klipschorns. I think the KEFs retailed for $500 each which was a month's take home pay each. I bought the other set (104ab) on ebay from Australia for total about $600.
The Marantz accommodates two sets of speakers and also includes click-stop bass, mid and treble knobs. I set mine at plus one, minus two, and minus one. Plus some room baffles.
PS: My KEFs have never been recapped and I doubt the ones from Australia were either. I have had them for 15 years myself.
The 1060 is a nice sounding amplifier, there is a Pioneer 30wpc Amp that is an almost exact clone (circuit design wise) to the 1060, wish I could remember the model number. I have listened to some KEF speakers many years ago, they sounded very good, not sure what model they were. CRS:) Great comment. Cheers
Cool beans, good stuff. I have moved for the umpteenth time, finally to my retirement home for now, and am working on integrating quite an amount of good stereo gear acquired over the years. You videos will help. I subscribed. I also added two of your videos to a playlist of videos I am watching to get my act together. Kudos to you.
Thank you so much, I am in the middle of a relocation.( moving is a pain in the A$$ isn't it ? ) I cant wait to get into our hopefully final home. Cheers.
@@breakerbroke23 I hear that. Cheers for sure.
Oh man that Marantz is a beautiful piece of equipment
Very clever...very practical...good job.
Does the JL audio adapter have good separation for 4 channels? Looking for the highest quality Bluetooth adapter for my car. Sick of FM transmitters. I’m losing so much fidelity using FM, and it’s not giving my system full potential.
Just FYI, I added "Mii B06 Plus Bluetooth Receiver" I got from Amazon back in 2019, to my JVC Stereo Receiver I use in my garage. The wall wart plugged directly into my receiver AC jacks (switched) ran RCA outputs into Aux RCA on receiver and it has worked perfectly. The only source I have used is my phone sending BT over to this unit. Bottom line, it has worked great w/o need for additional amp to drive circuit to a line level input. Less than $30 and solves everything with less wires. Looks like now for $10 more you can get the same but with longer range. I only use the garage receiver to play from BT (no CD, turntable, etc.) but with my receiver set at about 40% volume my volume on phone is more than enough. Maybe not best solution for all but for my setup and less than $30 I find it to be great.
AND.... Nowadays some BT receivers with RCA outputs are the proper 2.0 Volt RMS output level. Most of the good ones that is. Thanks for your comment and Cheers.
great follow up Video, Thanks , i sort of laugh these days because my 27 year old Son and all his Buddies are now discovering how good all the older Analog and Equipment sounds from the 70s and 80s of course a downfall of the older equipment is no Bluetooth and limited models with Remote Control ability i must admit that even myself enjoys listening to Pandora and other Bluetooth Venues but do hate the rinky dinky swapping of mini jacks and RCA plugs to get things to work i appreciate you sharing your knowledge and components to make it easier to do so in a more professional manner
Receivers with no remote control and having to get up and turn the "album" over is why our generation was in such good shape:)
I just bought a Sonos Move and Sonos One because of the great reviews on the sound.
Comparing it to my HK integrated amp, Mission speakers and a 1991 Technics CD changer the Sonos sound thin.
And this is a simple late ‘80’s early ‘90’s set up.
I think MP3 stolen Napster audio handicapped a generation of listeners.
You are both right! But it is important to crimp first, and solder second if you choose to do both*. If you solder first, then crimp a soldered joint, it will get loose. Think of the solder as a very, very thick liquid... over time, it will flow enough so that the joint is weakened.
*Why do both? Crimp for strength, solder for electrical integrity.
I love my vintage stereo receiver and will definitely get this as a nice addition to the system.
Get a Logitec BT adapter from Amozon. $30 and works and sounds great.
Yes the logitec will work well, but the pre out level is still low.
Nice. Good stuff. I've the 2235B - can't ever part with it. This is the kinda tinkering I used to do 10 years ago when it was all still sorta new. Played with Pi for a long time as well but I've boxed most of it. A while back I bought a Bluesound Node 2i and threw that in the mix and it does everything I need it to in a tidy little box. Never will take the Marantz out of the mix though.
Nice Receiver you have there. Keep that unit as long as you can. Great comment..... Cheers.
@@breakerbroke23 For sure - I intend to. I just priced them a day or two and it's bananas how they've inflated. All the good 70s ones really. Spent 2 decades with my dad's bought-new-in-late-'72 Pioneer SX-727. Regret letting that one go (back around 05 to fund playing with quads I'd always wanted much earlier but couldn't afford) but always loved that Pioneer. The Marantz is a bit better but similar. Anyhow. Cheers back to you ya. Cool channel. :)
I appreciate your taking the time to share the way you solved the low level coming out of most Bluetooth to audio receivers, however I ´d like to share that I was lucky to try in the first place a LOGITECH bluetooth receiver, cheap, simple and has great sound. You only need to connect it to any 5v cel phone charger to power it, and presto! I´ve helped some friends having the same problem when using some other brand BT receivers and I pass the Logitech recommendation. It sells for less than $20 USD.
I hope this helps many others.
Could you not do this a lot easier with a streaming DAC?
I remember that receiver way back in the 70's. (or a very similar model)
I have the 2225, being revised next month. Yours looks brand new!
I vaguely remember as a kid playing around with the old record player that it had the same issue as the bluetooth receiver. You had to crank it pass half way but if you turned the knob to the radio tuner you needed to turn the volume way down if you didn't want to wake the dead with the volume.
Great video. A blutooth-ready external DAC, might also be an option. I opted for a blutooth receiver with SPDIF (both Optical/Coaxial) out, allowing connection to an external DAC before the amp. That way, the volume out is as good as what the DAC provides, using a DAC, which has better chips and power supply with more punchy ummpth out of the RCA (red/white) out. The DAC Im using is the Schiit Modi 3 and this is hooked up to my vintage amp (Denon PMA-250III). If your DAC has extra inputs i.e TOSLINK/USB in, you can also hook up your PC,CD/DVD/TV with a nice, good quality RCA cable to your vintage amp's input (ovbz not the phono input, that's for a moving magnet turntable). Also, if you are an audiphile, not happy with bluetooth and want to cast from device using wifi, you can also use a normal chromecast connected to a hdmi to SPDIF extractor (bit messy though) or a chromecast audio (discontinued but can be found on ebay), which usually has a combined 3.5 stereo jack but also a mini TOSLINK for optical out for external DAC (or AV receiver) connectivity.
Nice! I like how you think out of the box.
Screw those units. Get a Radsone Earstudio ES100. It's a Bluetooth DAC/ Amp receiver with duel amps l/r and balanced and unbalanced outputs. It has an actual pre-amp setting and you can change how much gain there is whether it's in pre-amp mode or headphones mode. It has settings that can allow it to act as a pre-amp while being charged while playing whatever source you want. All it's controls are through the companion app free on the Appstore or Googles Playstore. It's probably the best Bluetooth Receiver you can buy and it also happens to be a DAC Amp as well. Cost is $79 to $99 depending on where and sales.
We're not talking little kid blue tooth here dude. Radsone (LOL)! Get yourself an old school amp paired with some nice speakers and you'll hear sounds you never knew existed.
@@kennethm.380 Dude, I already have all of that. We talking portable right? Or for your computer and headphones? And Bluetooth 5.0 is actually really good now. But nope, as far portable and having Bluetooth 5.0 and capable of turning your old school setup into a new school setup backed up with all of the functionality this thing has, I'm telling you that you need to get out of the dark ages. I'm 50 years old and been a decent audiophile for 30 of them. And I'm telling YOU that you don't know what you're talking about.
But just as a DAC Amp don't let its size fool you. It sounds really good. And for the money, it's a no brainer.
@@DEFKNIGHT How can you say you're an audiophile and be talking portable? Come on Jimmy.
Why don't they make a bluetooth adapter with a built in line driver?
Really beautiful Marantz receiver but damn... try to color match the tuning dial with the tuning meters.
If it is not used the Phono input does the same thing, there will be a pre-amp on the phono path to amp up what the needle and cartridge put out. If you have a turntable connected this is a good option. Glad you made this vid, I didn't know those pre-amps were still available.
In simple terms, the Phono input will not work, it is way to sensitive and a standard line level will overdrive the Pre amp. Also the Phono input has RIAA equalization and that will not mach the frequency response of a standard line level signal. Cheers.
@@breakerbroke23 ok, I guess that is amp specific, I had an old Dual years ago that didn't have a phono in and I got a pre-amp at Radio Shack. I later had a Hatachi that had phono in and I used it for a few things, one being for a small personal CD player that was a thing before iPods.
Same, can’t use a phono input.
If you use Tape Monitor it filters out most of the nasty leakage (Cross Talk) of audio signals
I had the TK-421 upgrade done that kicks it up 3-4 quads per channel. They did it in house
I can not understand something ..does this goodies can conect to any old era ampliphiers?
Thank you !
Yes the BT receivers will plug into your amplifier/ pre-amp through the AUX, Tape, CD inputs.
This is a old video and the new version devices do NOT need this pre-amp. You can check out my favorite devices on this video th-cam.com/video/ZtzxRSkFTvY/w-d-xo.html these units will just plug in VIA RCAs and will have proper output... Cheers
I have watched a couple of your videos and appreciate the information you provide. I am setting up a sound system in a man cave and I also DJ on occasion and I am wondering if you have ever set up bluetooth to a stereo from a PC to a stereo with a dedicated music program such as the old Music Match software. I would like to have the stereo in one part of the room and the computer in another like a laptop on a table or desk top computer behind the bar. I would assume that it would work similar to a phones bluetooth correct?
Yes I think your idea would work, not sure how your PCs Bluetooth would work range wise ( so far iam not a fan of windows 10 Bluetooth possessing ) but if you have problems getting a solid performing signal from your PC then maybe try a Miccus RTX2 transmitter(300ft model) and grab audio from a headphone jack on your PC. This is what I do when trying to send BT from my PC to a speaker or my home receiver. Cheers and merry Christmas ...... BB23
It looks like you are connecting both the BT and LD to the same 12V adapter? I assume this will also work with the Miccus RTX 2.0
No, the Miccus uses 5v and is powered buy a AC Adapter.
Plugged an HK bluetooth into my 20 y/o Yamaha receiver. Works like a charm.
Thanks for this idea
I had the same problem but I don't now how to fix it Intel see you video
Note.... New BT receivers like the BLT-HD and IFI Zen Blue do not need this extra "boost" as modern BT receivers are the correct RCA output levels.. Cheers
@@breakerbroke23 so this new bluetooth receivers gives high volume output without any other tool yes?
@@bouazzamajdoubi7974 Yes and they have much better sound quality.
@@breakerbroke23 thanks men 🙏
Hi if the stereo has only 3.5 mm audio jack input what would be your recommendation to achieve the same result.
Indeed!
Those old receivers were made to last forever
In Japan not stupid China
Gonna try this out in my garage
I can probably use the identical components on my vintage car that I’m adding a modern stereo to.
Wow! I feel old. I remember when made in Japan was the equivalent of made in China. They even wanted to make a province named "USA" pronounced You-sa so they could label stuff made in USA. They got their act together.
Thanks for the helpful video. Never really thought about the line driver but I’m going to include one on my setup.
When you measure 12V converter and get a higher reading, it's because there is no load. When you feed the 12V to a device it will drop.
correct
You did a great job explaining your Bluetooth installation. However I did not find it necessary to do all of this work. I picked a Bluetooth receiver for about $20.00 on eBay, plugged it in and it worked fine. Great equal volume, good fidelity and range. No need to do any of the adaptations you displayed. Sorry that the one you chose was not robust.
Isaid pretty much the same......i use a Logitec BT adapter from Amazon....works fine.
You are correct but does your BT receiver give you the same volume as your other inputs, ie. FM, CD,TV,VCR, more than likely not, this is why I use the pre-amp. Then when listening to BT you dont have to crank up the receivers volume to get good audio. Try listening to BT at any desired level, then without turning the volume down, switch to FM or CD, it will probably blow you out of the house:)
Thanks for watching....BB23
absolutely, I've added one to Garage stereo and 80's stereo works perfect.
Thanks you so much for providing a likely solution to the issue I had using the Sonos Connect. Just about blew up my speakers when I inadvertently switched from the Sonos input to the FM input on my Marantz Amp. Gave the Connect back to the owner. Super good explanation of why I was having the problem. Cheers!
YES! You get it. Thanks for your comment.
Cheers.
@@breakerbroke23 Hi. Do you think I could put the pre-amp between the Sonos Connect and my Amp?
How did you connect the line driver and the Bluetooth to the ac adapter my friend? As in the negative and positive wires from the ac adapter.
so I have the 2 wire (loose end) of the ac adapter, the 2 wire (loose black & red end) off of LD10 and 2 wire loose (black and red end) off of bluetooth adapter - do these 6 wires then all get tied together at LD to make 1 splice ?
Do you have a video that shows how to attach a cd player to a vintage receiver? Thanks.
Serious ?
Does the Fusion BT receiver support APTX? APTX is the only thing that makes BT tolerable sound quality wise.
Nice video BTW. Good trick.
No APTX, the fusion is A2DP Bluetooth 3.0. Yes a bit old school but the BT 100 has very good audio and decent range (RX).
Back when I did this video this was common.
Now in the "real world" head to head comparison from the fusion to the new units that I use, the A2DP does have a good sound through these old receivers and it still blows away the newer and cheaper modern BT units from say wally world and Amazon. ( yes, I have made A&B comparisons, I trust no manufactures VS my ear. ) Great comment and thank you for watching.
Hello! Great video. How did u get the same music from your phone as your am fm station?
I ask because id like todo this set up in my cars amp and also be able to listen to am fm stereo (news, talk radio etc).. and otherwise play music from phone, bluetooth.
Excluding the car stereo and long rca wiring to the rear. Short rca from interfaces to the amp is ok
What did you adjust the pac ld10 settings to?
Love these tutorials... thank you
On the Marantz I have to set the PAC gain controls at full output, On my Technics SA 404 I set at 2/3 gain. Depends as to what BT unit I use as well. Thank you for watching my videos.... BB23
@@breakerbroke23
I see.
My head units all digital....i don't think I can adjust the gain on it.
I was thinking if buying what you mentioned. Ive seen your other video. Trying not to blow my system...but want to play my tunes from my phone.
This will work on ANY receiver that has an AUX or CD, Tape,VCR audio input. You will not blow anything up. Rock on.
I enjoyed your video and I ran into the same level mis-matching when I tried this on my setup a while back. I'm now going to try your solution with a PAC line driver. Where do you get those nice Solder-on male RCA jacks?
The ends I used were leftover stock from my Car Stereo Business circa 1992:) Just look up some on Amazon, they do have some nice ones on the cheap. Like these... amzn.to/2QpfFKA
That's great. Thanks for the info & education on BT adapters. Now I can pandora to my Yamaha 890. Have Bless day
Yes, sounds like it should work fine. However I’ve never found any bluetooth receiver to have the fidelity I prefer, esp for a high quality home stereo system. Some people are not nearly as critical of sound quality as I am, so many would be just fine with such a setup.
Mike K i am doing something like this already with a FiiO D3 DAC feeding into a little bear P5 valve pre amp and finally into my Creek CAS 4040 amp. The sounds are quite simply awesome and blow my existing CD player out of the water in terms of volume levels, clarity of detail and stereo imaging and bass. I can now use my Samsung J5 phone as a front end as well to directly stream flac audio into the FiiO D3 with the android market audio player pro app. Have a fiddle with a few aftermarket black boxes like this and you will be smitten. I like yourself have found bluetooth to be a bit thin, lacklustre and anemic sounding. I just use a wired USB OTG connecter straight from my phone into the FiiO D3 coaxial. It also has an optical in option as well which i use with the optical toslink port on my hackintosh computer. I have tried this set up without the little bear P5 pre amp in line feeding the DAC straight into aux on the Creek and it is a much harsher and brittle sound. The tubes on the pre amp add some warmth and colouration without losing focus, detail or bass. I can best describe it as sounding pretty musically descriptive like my old vinyl set up but with a lot more precision. Win, win for me but do use good quality reference digital recordings to get the very best sound out of it.
MrDegsy69
Sounds like a nice setup, I myself love tube equipment as well. So the FiiO D3 DAC has a bluetooth receiver built in, with all these high quality hardline type inputs as well? Reason why I ask is because the few bluetooth receivers I’ve used have always sound hash and lifeless.
@@repairfreak Mike K The FiiO D3 i have does not have bluetooth built in (i think its 1st generation according to the amazon review in the link) but i cannot vouch for later incarnations? The components i have listed are true bargain basement items apart from the Creek CAS 4040 which is of mid eighties vintage and has just recently been recapped and having it large right here and now in 2020! It really is mindblowing what you can actually achieve with a few bargain basement hifi components. I really don't know what 'Ben Latour' is on about as 'nah' is a rather glib and childlike comment but i would love to see him do better with such little coin? You are absolutely right about bluetooth though. My connection into the FiiO D3 DAC is hard wired through USB OTG into the coaxial and optically via the Toslink optical out as in the case of the hackintosh computer. I have used the little bear pre amp gain control to match the line level to my turntable and i am comparing this to my Linn LP12 playing legacy vinyl from my pre Y2K collection and it sounds pretty good to my ears! Intially i had pretty low expectations for this combo as good hifi has got to be expensive right? It really amazed me just how good these entry level hifi components sounded. The built in phono input stage on my creek amp is already pretty good but fitting a valve pre amp between the aux and DAC for digital sources has definitely inspired me to source an even better valve pre amp.
www.amazon.co.uk/FiiO-Taishan-D03K-Digital-Decoder/dp/B009346RSS/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?hvadid=80264380943542&hvbmt=bp&hvdev=m&hvqmt=p&keywords=fiio+d3&qid=1578867588&sr=8-1
www.amazon.com/Little-puffer-Preamp-Preamplifier-amplifier/dp/B00OY1PR9K
Taotronics makes a great little bluetooth TX/R that plugs in with adapter to 120 V (in my home). It’s that simple. Plug output in to CD input on amp. PUNCHY for sure!! Try it! You’ll like it!!©️
God that Marantz is stunning
soo sorry sold my 2250 ! But my 1980's powerful Pioneer is running are hole surround system in living room without a glitch ..Did install the fiber optics for the new Big Screen and now sounds better then before ?
Highly recommend the Earstudio ES100 Bluetooth if you want a high resolution Bluetooth connection with customization. It has an auto power off/on mode which will allow you to power the device on with the receivers power and the app is simply amazing for tweaking. You can use the pre-amp in the app to set the volume levels to your liking too. I own two of these devices and nothing else comes close to what they can deliver.
It's a 3.5mm connector so you'll need to get a 3.5mm to RCA as well as an USB charger to plug the device into a receiver but it's light years advanced compared to most Bluetooth adapters on the market.
yep, looks cool
Plus it has all the important codecs on board like: (from best to mediocre) LDAC, APTX-HD, APTX-LL, APTX, ABC, SBC. The LDAC is truly amazing equal to or almost equal to wired connection.
Thanks for the detailed info CAL_08 000, much appreciated. I really like the idea that there's an app to control the output level and EQ. Lots of possibilities with this sort of tech.
Would this work for the newer more 90s av recivers too or just vintage
Yes it will work with most any receiver but with the new receivers that are out nowadays this is not needed, the new BT units now have the proper line out voltage. The higher end units that is. And after you buy a older HK and then the preamp you might as well just get something like this..
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These units put out the full 2volt RCA signal, so preamp is not necessary.
Cheers.
Where did you obtain the male RCA connectors, in your video? Thanks....Great tutorial.
These would work very good..... amzn.to/2ZkokkB
Tried the Besign BE-RCA ...no volume "Punch" at all, going to try your Blu Dento receiver hoping for "punch" otherwise a PAC line driver?
BluDento BLT-HD is the one to get.
Wow!! Thanks. Your tutorial was just what I needed.
Nice vid👍🏼 You’re powering 2 devices with the wall wart... what amp rating is the PS?
Thanks for the thumb up and the AC Adapter was rated at 500ma
I've got a belkin bt reciever that's independently powered. Still go with a 12v on the pac 10?
yes
I would love a little more detail on wiring the line driver to a power source. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Can you please tell me how to connect the power wire from the Bluetooth adapter to the PAC led-10 line driver. That was confusing to me exactly how this is done. Thanks,
Glenn
Hook the positive wire from the AC Adapter to both + wires from the PAC And BT adapter And the negative wire from the AC Adapter to the negative wires of the PAC and BT adapter. Cheers
All you need is a cheap multi meter or a tester that will tell you which is positive or negative. Once you find that out it is quite simple, sometimes these adapters come with a plug fitted, it will tell you which wire is positive, it will usually go to the centre pin, but it will show a "C" shape with a -- to the other connection. The line will point to the centre pin a DOT and the "C" shape will be the outer part of the pin. Depending what type of adapter you get. Any 12 volt DC adapter will run it, if from the wall or wall socket, the only advantage of powering it from the Amplifier is it will turn off with the amplifier.
I agree that was by passed to quickly how to run those extra wires from the pac for power confusing I'd like a response
What is the frequency response of the M10 line driver, and what does the response curve look like?
Fabulous! I have that Marantz! I'm not big into blue tooth but may just have to try this. Do you do any videos around cleaning the receiver internally to keep it purring?
Thank you for your comment and maybe I should do some maintenance videos. Hmm
breakerbroke23, can you do a video on cleaning the volume controls? I have an old quad Marantz that is really scratchy when you adjust the volume, it has four controls stacked for the volume, thanks.
@@Hoaxer51 I will do that. Sub and hit the notification bell.
No bs, I will do that video ASAP
Great classic I just picked up
A 2215 to begin with
You're right about the volume. I bought Bluetooth receiver & the sound out put was not good at all. Can you show steps by step how to make it better?
That is what this video is all about.
Thanks for watching.....BB23
cool, I have a marantz 2216 and a early 90's sansui reciver, they both are great.
Hi! I’m Pretty new to everything-Can I do this with my pioneer sx-424? I just got a pair of pioneer cs-r590 speakers what would you recommend me get to connect them? Anything helps!!
Yes a modern BT receiver will work great with your pioneer. However... BT receivers have come a long way since this video was made. I made this video because most receivers at the time did not have the proper RCA line level output, now most good ones have the correct level. They are a bit more money but will match up with your pioneer the best IMHO.. BluDento www.bludento.com/ use promo code BB23 to get the best price
When using a receiver like this one you will NOT have to add this pre-amp, just plug directly into you AUX in.
@@breakerbroke23 Sweet dude! out of the 4 on that link is there a specific Bluedento that would work better for the sx-424? Thanks so much!
im trying to add bluetooth to a 1967 Magnavox Astro Sonic console without a stock RCA. any ideas how to connect one of these bluetooth devices to something that old?
I dont think you have any AUX type inputs on that stereo? Not sure. I would try to search google for that amp circuit and see if some one has taped into the pre amp section and added a RCA input. Sorry, I wish I could be more help.
Hey this is pretty cool my dads got an old reciever exactly like this one. Ill have to show him this video.
I use a logitec BT adapter hooked to my AUX in....it's plugged in to my switched plug on the amplifier so comes on when the amp is turned on. Sound is clear with plenty bass....$30 on Amazon.
The PHONO channel has a built in boost on most amps, it would have fixed this lack of "punch" issue easier.
phono in is not only” boosted “ it has RIAA equalization so it will not work as any kind pre in other than phono.
@@breakerbroke23 I've used many amp where the phono channel will boost anything you plug into it to the point of blowing your speakers with ease. Depends on the amp I guess.
All modern amps (from early 50s ish) that have phono in will have RIAA eq. So no other devices plugged into phono will sound correct.
@@Awsimilate Hope you're right because thats what I'm going to try.
Thank you, great job! I have the same problem with my daughters 4k tv and the streaming channels. Connected to a yamaha htr5590, 6. 1 receiver by optical cable. I have no hdmi input or output on my receiver. It is also used as a monitor and her pc is connected by optical cable and it sounds amazing, but when switched to streaming it sounds like garbage and I lose a lot of bass and volume, even with dual 12 inch subs. Would getting an optical to hdmi converter box fix the problem, or do I need one of the pac drivers? The tv is a tcl 43421, series four. Thank you for your time, be safe.
Honestly I don't know if you need the optical to hdmi converter, I have never played with anything like that. The line driver will amplify RCA audio signals only. Sorry I wish I could be more help.
When you say streaming channels do you mean Netflix / Amazon etc?
If so they are just quiet. Not sure if it helps but my wife got me a PS4 for birthday and it only has HDMI output but I have TOS link Yamaha 5.1 receiver - no hdmi.
I got one of the hdmi to optical boxes off Amazon ... About £15-20. Works lie a charm BUT the Netflix/Amazon is still low level output even thru this box. Same on the smart TV. Whenever we switch over we know we gotta be careful with the volume.
Not sure why digital streams are so low. Just are I guess.
@@stephenhookings1985 Hey thank you Stephen! That is exactly what hers does. Her pc sounds amazing with toslink, but the volume and bass are definitely noticeably lower when I go through the tv apps. That's a RIP off huh? Told her she didnt need a smart tv, but 4k monitors for 43 inches are ridiculous. She can stream from her pc, and can decode up to 7.1, or 7.2 digital surround, and be fine! Damn menus suck on smart TVs anyway. I got her receiver for 25 bucks with remote. Yamaha htr-5590 at auction for 25 bucks. Time to get a newer one with hdmi. I thought a box like yours would fix it, dang it! Check the auctions for some good deals! Thanks again man, much appreciated! Be safe out there.
@@breakerbroke23 Thank you for the response much appreciated! I need to do a little more research. Has to be a way to fix this. Otherwise that is a serious design flaw in my opinion. Be safe.
@@grinningintheirface2685 - well to be clear - the hdmi to optical is great. I get my full 5.1 - it is not the adapator at fault with streaming - their levels are jsut quiet. Kind if in the opposite way to how volume is automatically boosted when adverts come on. So even my integrated TV is quiet ... cia buikt in speakers or tos link. Its the streams not ny gear. If u can get a cheap 2nd hand box with hdmi then great. I am very happy with mine because my Yamaha amp souds great. I just turn the volume up when i watch Prime or Netflix. Prime is quieter than terrestrial broadcast and NetFlix is about that much than Prime again. Sucks. But its them not me :-)
Well you guys from out of states the PAC LD-10 is available on Amazon for 25 bucks US. Thanks for a great video I was trying to figure out a way to get more punch out of my iPhone using the headset jack I’m sure with this piggyback system it will sound awesome and easier to use through Bluetooth... love those Marantz receivers.