It's like riding a bicycle, if the bicycle had 12 wheels : Dyson Sphere program Ep1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.ค. 2024
- The amount of updates this game has gone through since I last played means this is going to hurt. I remember it taking many many hours to figure out how to make production lines work last time. With the new additions I can't imagine it's gotten any easier :)
On the bright side we got enemies now so time for shooty lazer beams.
Map seed : 3104 1886
/ francisjohn
Credits song - To Pass Time by Godmode
Build the most efficient intergalactic factory in space simulation strategy game Dyson Sphere Program! Harness the power of stars, collect resources, plan and design production lines and develop your interstellar factory from a small space workshop to a galaxy-wide industrial empire. - เกม
I just realized FJ doesn't make the tutorials for the viewers, but for future Francis once he has forgotten everything lol.
That's how the channel started, he was looking for good ONI tutorials and when he didn't find exactly what he was looking for, he set off to do his own
My to-do lists tend to take the form of spreadsheets, so I can relate to FJ here. Much of my 'learning' is just building tutorials and cheat sheets for future me.
The year is 4547.
Scientists finally managed to deconstruct a Dyson Sphere only to find a lone Irishman by the name of Francis yelling through time at his previous self to make better tutorials.
The self-grief, which came to be known as Spice, powers the known Universe.
Man the intro and Dark Fog are making me think of the Bobiverse books. Highly recommend those, the audiobooks are top notch.
jfc your playthrough of this was THREE YEARS AGO?! time flies wow
No kidding! I could have sworn it was last year.
@@notchhero11 I thought the same thing.
The dark fog is barely a tickle at the default settings. I recommend increasing the difficulty to a reasonable level :)
Proliferators are really good, its a liquid that you feed into those "conveyor tunnels", anything that passes through a conveyor inside them gets the buff and the proliferator liquid itself can be proliferated for extra output. It does increase quite drastically the power consumption at higher levels. You can select higher speed or higher output at the production facility, fuels for power plants get a special buff that just makes them generate more energy.
Always select higher output, IMO.
Francis playing DSP and Nilaus playing ONI. What dark sorcery is going on here?
I know right.
I would never play this game myself. But I WILL watch YOU play it. Math the shit out of this, please. Wow us with your dissection of this game.
I always thought that with these types of games until I played Factorio & got addicted to factory type games & the puzzling of it, I wish there were more great ones to move the genre forward in their own style instead of copying others, more are coming year by year.
@@rl53 By puzzles, I assume you mean the production chain paths, like, how many of X resource I need to keep X number of machines running, so I can make X number of other machines, the Anno series might be for you.(my personal favorite is Anno 1800, it can be a bit pricey though, so if it interests you, wait for a sale, or buy an older Anno game and play that until it goes on sale.)
May also check out the Tropico series of games.
It is the same thing, but with a little twist. You still have your resources and factories, but the resources are limited, and sometimes exclusive to certain places, so you have to set up trade routes as well, on top of the production chain puzzle.
Yeah, this genre has been around for a long time.
@@danielduncan6806 Exactly & the routes to take them through. I play the others too. I feel Anno series is getting too expensive for what it is. I'm not a gamer who stresses if some network doesn't max out or gets supplied. Anno sparked my interests, Deep Ocean was a good game before UBISOFT became what they have, put me off buying from them again, I lost access to their servers so many times, hacks, password resets etc etc I gave up in the end.
awwee Yeah!!! Dyson Sphere! This is gonna be so Good.
25:05 ohh no the spaghetti has already begun.
It's been 3 years since your last DSP series!? Damn time flies
Agree, I can't believe that I've been watch Francis for that long
@@andrewgoenner120 I remember when i was following his all achievement run in ONI. I'd like to see him try our the new frosty planet pack sometime soon ngl
lol nice, can't wait to see Francis create some kind of multi-dimensional monster of a Dyson
Ahhh, a return to DSP. I hope this series goes well. Maybe in the future you'll try out a max difficulty run. :)
34:45 you kill the base on the ground and cap it off. The orbital station will fly off back to a nearby hive (If you clear your system, you can see seed ships coming back in sometimes -- TH-cam's compression doesn't show it very well IMO, so I don't know what exactly to keep an eye out to find lol).
For best effect, kill the orbital station when you get the chance. ;)
Wow, never thought I'd hear the "Aaaaand we're back" again with this game. Lookin' forward to what FJ does to break the game this time 😊
(Remember to set the Fog sliders to max, otherwise they're just an annoying nuissance, with no real gameplay usefulness)
26:44 no need to elevate the belts when crossing other belts. Drag'n drop, they'll hop over automagically 😊
35:15 when you do get rid of the planetary Dark Fog base, DON'T FILL IN (you'll know when you get there). Geothermal Power Plant instead (will require some advanced production, as long as the Fog difficulty sliders are set to default). Insane ammounts of energy, though, as it'll grab heat from the planet's core, instead of magma rivers on the surface.
Proliferation: not required early on, unless you make Mk.2 belts to feed turrets (again, not required on default Fog settings). Proliferate the resources towards ammo to get 1 extra per 5-6 crafted, then, additionally, proliferate the ammo, and each "clip" will get extra shots.
What you are to ONI, Nilaus is to DSP. He has perfected every build in this game.
Nilaus is great!
really enjoyed todays episode, you will be able to farm the dark fog for resources, so no big rush on getting rid of them
Proliferators are like modules in Factorio. The proliferator sprays items with a consumable spray that you put in through another conveyor belt. If you spray all the ingredients in a recipes you have the option of increased production speed (like speed modules) or extra products (like production modules). If you spray consumable items it will boost things like how many bullets you get per ammo and fuel energy and power. You can (and should) spray your proliferator sprays because it will increase the amount of items that each spray can boost production.
MK3 proliferated antimatter energy cells have a high enough power output that you can stay at warp pretty much indefinitely.
You can also spray research cubes and they'll give you more research per cube. The downside is that buildings working off of proliferated ingredients consume a lot more power. Which is more impactful now because the Dark Fog launch attacks based on power production. That's why the threat level went up so fast after you completed your coal power array.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought someone did the math on the proliferators and concluded that they are a waste of resources. Therefore, people should just beef up production lines instead of spraying.
Guess i'll never get to see Francis hoard every item in Baldur's Gate 3 to his camp chest :-(
glad to see you coming back should be fun!
The problem with early power setup: if your powergrid goes low on power, your coal miners start to produce even less coal, creating positive feedback loop. Solution: separate fuel resource gathering/production grid from main grid, easiest way is to supply it with wind power generators and place power generators a bit afar from it to prevent tesla tower connections.
One small thing about wind turbines, dunno if it'll change your opinion on them: they can be placed on water without needing foundation! Pretty sure they changed that in the three years since you last played.
Once you've unlocked that, not sure if it's the foundations or maybe steel. Water placement isn't available till then.
@@Keeirby steel research is what unlocks this. Very valuable, and it does increase Wind's usefulness far into end-game (new star system, land on a planet with atmosphere, use wind turbines instead of power "poles" which can not be placed on water, free power aswell as they give that consumer radius. This was a deeper elaboration for those who don't know, ofc 😉)
Looking forward to this series.
Defense against the planetary dark fog isn't difficult. What you want is missile turrets and signal towers. You can farm the dark fog for resources.
The stellar dark fog is the tough one. Good luck!
The game added some interesting new toys since last you played it! Hope you have fun figuring them out!
This is one of my all time favorite games.
Every time I re-start this game I learn that little bit more of how not to do it & how easily I can over complicate production lines 😂😂
FJ coming back to a game after a dozen updates is entertaining.
the distribution logistics system is really handy. it's used to automatically deliver resources to icarus once you run below a certain number. meaning if you set 400 iron plates in your inventory settings, it automatically delivers some plates from an iron plates storage once you run below that number. really handy to use so you don't need to run all over your base to get some materials you need.
increase the batch size of your manual crafts. it's a lot more efficient and orderly to craft a batch of 10 than to que up 10 batches of 1.
spray everything with proliferator. it gets insane value, especially if you spray the proliferators, granting them extra charges. since it only uses coal as an input for mark 1 & 2 it's fairly easy to setup production. only thing that might get somewhat chaotic is getting the sprays to all of your production lines. when applied to your entire supply chain, it reduces factory footprint by a ton, due to the "free" extra products.
in regards to energy, i always prefer to utilize renewables instead of thermal power plants. in the early game, wind turbines are really good. when i get silicon i transition into a equatorial solar power belt, which eliminates the need for batteries since there will always be a part of the belt in sunlight.
Great video 👍
Been looking forward to a revisit of DSP for a while. Cheers!
damn three years already?? also this is nice, i recently picked up this game again, too and realized i dont remember how to play either
If you want to get rid of the bad thing that is in the opposite side of the planet,
Just send the Ghouls.
Cool I never watched you play it the first time
Just a brief FYI regarding mods: you mention wanting to get the achievements. There are a number of qol mods that don't disable achievements. And the mod pages are generally good at letting you know if a particular mod will or will not disable achievements.
Its true that wind turbines are low power, but they make great power poles and are very cheap.
This was a great update!
I'd love that you pick this game up again. It got many updates, I'm sure you'll enjoy it. 🤩
I'm hoping one day to see him do a COI run through, i think that would be a fun challenge for him
Awesome! This is a great game!
Ah, on to a different game. I got burned out on Rimworld a while back, so was looking forward to seeing different content.
Personally I like my solar. I usually build flowers of solar at the poles. Usually I squeeze out 10- 15 MW per pole, and building it at both means the power is steady.
Also for power, I like to process the coal into energetic carbon. I think it's more efficient... and if not, then at least it's higher output
I picked the game up myself to somehow bridge the time until the Factorio Expansion comes out, it was so hard to wrap my head around the idea of building UP.
I remade my base like 4 times by now until i got it right and running.
The rare materials i need for some of the advanced building being on the other side of the solar system didn't help
10:50 It's ok Francis. Past selves are generally idiots in comparison to current selves. At least one would hope so, as the alternatives are a lot less desirable.
Never played DSP but it's been on my list for a while, always heard good things. It definitely has Factorio vibes but they simplified a lot of it. Definitely gonna have to give it a try before this series spoils it all for me lol.
Tips, just drag belts straight over other belts, they should auto-hump over the one it's crossing. Add ammo to your ammo box below your power box then select auto/manual fire on your weapon of choice. If a turn is too tight to get a belt into a building try coming out in the "wrong" direction then select the belt and hit reverse direction. (that one gets me out of so many jams) To do the enemy tower use missiles that just are out of range then use the whatevertheircalled big spire things that not only transfer energy a huge distance but also act as radar for the missile launcher to target anything beyond their range but withing the towers range. DO NOT SHOOT THE THING IN THE SKY, until you're ready with planetary shields. Paint the paint and paint the coal that makes the paint, not really worth going beyond tier 1 imo till late game. Oh, and bushes and trees can be converted into organic crystals needed for one of the sciences that would otherwise be a complete pain in the backside and require titanium (more than you get from rocks).
it's nice that you picked up this game again, i started it 2 months ago it will be nice if i could get some nice builds and tutorials for this.
Hey Francis nice video as always . Also jesus christ 3 years since ur last DSP playthrough damn.. well lots of new stuff sooo u will prob find lots of interesting stuff ? Also question are u gonna take a look at ONI's new update on Frosty Planet ?
If you get all the milestones it lets you do the screw attack from Metroid
Would love to see you play Terra Invicta. It is a sci fi grand strategy game about defending humanity from an alien invasion by conquering nations on earth and building supply lines, outposts, stations in the Solar system. It is from the people that did XCom the long war.
Hey Francis, not to get you distracted but new ONI content is coming out. I believe it already out of the public beta build, new map, new biomes, and critters.
proliferators are so awesome
This game should have multiplayer
Apparently YT deleted my comment because I added a link to the proper DSP wiki instead of the Fandom one, which is really frustrating. You can probably figure out the link yourself, but I can't share it, because links to any website are scary according to TH-cam, apparently.
Anyway, re-summarising what I was saying, I think that you will definitely benefit from upping the difficulty settings. The defaults are basically pitifully easy, and since they announce all the attacks, you can easily just manually deal with them instead of automating. Having to automate defences is part of the fun, and I think you'd enjoy doing that more.
Also, it's worth clarifying that the penalty for death _is_ resetting back to your last save point, and so I highly recommend manually saving before doing anything daft. That includes going to space for the first time. You'll figure out why very quickly.
I honestly wouldn't really recommend caring about the achievements, since most of them just make the game less fun instead of actually being achievements.
X3:LU is my suggestion next. You liked X4, you should play what X4 is trying to be.
I voted for Astroneer, but I’m super excited to see you play DSP as well. It’s a perfect game for your style.
i like starts with the two planets around the gas giant. may just have to try a game in this seed :)
IT'S BEEN THREE YEARS?! 0:12
I noticed the aliens reference 😅
I got this game when it came out. Like oni it made time disappear and started dreaming about cubes.
Building a Darkfog farm is far more complicated than it needs to be.
Some advice. Automate as soon as possible.
When will you play the new Frozen expansion to ONI?
Only starting state I'm sure of is you want to be orbiting an ice giant. Having a few of those high luminosity stars is good as well if you really really really want to go late game.
SInce you are at the begining you can get rid of it by destroying the base. DO NOT attack the space part of this base yet. You will be able to do it easily when you will have researched Missile Tourrets and Signal Towers. For now you need to fortify your base for the coming attacks.
the intro sounds like a teenage boy trying to chat up his 1st girlfriend and failing :)
proliferators are basically this games version of modules (factorio)-yout coat products on belts with it.
Surely there is an option to turn off the learning helper.
im here for this because I need to watch a "newb" (someone who knows how to play but is not a minmaxing psychopath like one or two other youtubers)
i advise you look into proliferation. they are the equivalent of factorio's productivity modules
Oni just got a new dlc. Just so you know.
Whoah! Had not expected you to come back to this one.
Yeah the intro is cheesy - and there’s some sound settings you may want to turn off. I’ll try to find them later.
For the audio setting, turn off what you don’t want bugging you.
Advisor tips (the tutorial advice, once you’ve done a couple of playthroughs this becomes annoying): Main Menu > Settings > Miscellaneous. Uncheck the Advisor Tutorial Tips and the Play Opening Animation.
For that really irritating voiceover which says things like “Insufficient Materials” and “Replication Complete” and Research Complete” (as if that obnoxious popup for research isn’t enough!): Main Menu > Settings > Audio. Set the System Broadcast Volume to low or off.
The last one in particular drove me nuts - that dumb voiceover style went out in the nineties. I finally did my block, then of course figured the blasted thing out a week later…
Here’s a tip to make things easier for playing: once blue logistics are unlocked (splitter, green sorter, and traffic monitor) it is possible to make easy buffers for materials.
Put down a splitter, put a storage box on top of it, feed in materials with a belt. It fills up the box (don’t restrict the storage, big reserves are good) and there’s three easy outputs to belt out the contents to where they’re needed.
So: mine, put the ore in a box - there’s a buffer for when the ore runs out. Ore to smelters, put the bars/magnets into a box - buffer to pick up from when needed for crafting. Bars/magnets to circuit boards and magnetic coils - buffer box. Make blue science, buffer box before researching stuff - let it build up when all blue is done and red isn’t on line yet.
One full box of everything is probably enough. 3k of bars/magnets and 6k of circuit boards/magnetic coils should be sufficient.
But I like when you go over the 30 minute mark...
Are there any ideas for a new ONI challenge, now that the new DLC is within sight?
Where are those polls? On patreon only? I want to see Francis struggle with Projekt Zomboid and it releases a new update soon.
if you want to turn off the advisor then you just have to go into the settings! no need for a mod. also id love it if you could post your savegame this time around
It's been three years? Damn. Just damn.
17:29 i think its wood, water and leaves that give some kind of crystal i´ve forgotten the name of, i think its organic crystal.
I'm sad X4 didnt make it into the vote!
praise Lord Algo
what do you mean youtube doesn't like it when you go over the 30 min mark? as in algorythm stuff?
i used to do some rpg speedrunning back in the day and have a few 9h long videos up
34:55 to get rid of it, you just destroy it
Wait where was this poll? I still don't see it in tur community section
Where was the poll posted out of curiosity?
Patreon, free members can also vote ;)
Uhhh nice, if you want I can give you a compact polar defense platform blueprint to fight the dark fog semi automated
Does he even know about the blueprints?
man sya he doesnt remember anything. then starts spitting info and facts like a excited 13 yr old girls on caffeine
do a dsp deathworld?
Just you know FJ, you can now turn off the tutorial in settings
Francis: It's like riding a bicycle, if the bicycle had 12 wheels.
Me: There is a reason why a bicycle is called: a bicycle. bi = 2, cycle = wheels.
... so more like a dodecacycle.
I got 2000hr in DSP....
I'd have preferred Oni or Rimworld, I fail to see the point in this game
Always love your videos, but the lack of efficiency and order is cringe. This video seems like it was rushed and had a "whatever" attitude. I hope you can geek out on DSP as much as you do on ONI. Smart move on jumping straight to coal burning for power, but be careful because you don't want to burn up your finite resource (coal) that is needed for end-game stuff. Also, if you listen to the guy that pops up every now and then, although annoying for things you already know, he will tell you what new stuff they've added. Like Shift+clicking a building/item will select it to be built (including attached sorters) then you can click and drag to make multiple, Shift+clicking whilst in delete mode will delete the whole line of conveyors, pressing U will bring up the "upgrade" interface, etc...
Other tips: You don't need to elevate the conveyors to go over other conveyors anymore, if you drag the path over one, it will auto-traverse/elevate over the existing conveyor. When placing conveyors, you can press R to change the rotation bend of the conveyors, or can also go into a mode that doesn't snap-to-grid.
I like to stockpile items, not ore. So stockpile iron bars, magnets, computer chips, etc... then you only have to fly over there to get them, instead of making them in your mech. It also acts as a production demand buffer too.
I don't know what it is, but DSP has just never hooked me. I've thousands of hours factorio and the like, but something about this is just isn't very fun for me.
The way you do the survey is a bit biaise because the second choice of lots of people will never get vote while the first choice of a minority can get too many votes, it may be better to let people vote for several games or let people rate how much they want to see a game.
E a sports it’s in the
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These types of games shows us how important coal & oil is for all planets real or not & how rubbish turbines are, you can't get more natural that the earth making it for us🤔🤔🤣🤣
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the poll is crap. more rimworld.
Arh, this again? I was hoping for something new...
I understand the fan service Francis, but I kinda wish you'd go back to deciding for yourself. Most of your subs has zero clue...