Notes on the NHL Press Conference Prior to Cup Final Starting
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- I watched this in its entirety this morning and here's a video on it.
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Ah yes, Shannon uploads right when the pizza arrives. Woot woot lol
what type of Pizza ?
Nobody out-get the ingredients, Little Caesars
Shannon has to stop taking team attendance reports at face value. Teams do not report actual attendance - they report tickets distributed. "Distributed" means not just ticket buyers but also the massive numbers of tickets left over every game that are given to charities, radio stations, corporate groups, players and staff. Teams report official attendance to the NHL, but the public never sees those numbers.
Personally I like the balanced schedule. I was never a fan of the days where a star player in the other conference would play against my team once in a season and maybe have 1 home date every 2-3ish years. Everyone should have a chance to see all the leagues players against their team on home ice
Exactly, sure I might not care about being able to see San Jose, but I'd be upset to not be able to see Colorado, and you can't have a selective schedule like that
"No time for More Nations Cup" probably means "no time to cut deals with other leagues so that they also pause and let their players go to our tournament".
Yeah, I thought the choice of those four was fairly obviously to keep it only NHL players
Welcome back
Alright so
Don’t change your name after wheeler retires
Best intro ever
I ___. I do.
But it'll be interesting to see what happens.
But at any rate, …
IMO I dont mind the late finish to the NHL season. I easily spend more time outside during the Fall and Winter seasons when it is way cooler, so I have no problem staying indoors all days watching hockey with the AC on in June.
As a Canadian, we barely get a summer. We take advantage
@@people3865 lol im a Canadian too. And if it gets above 25C, i aint leaving the house
@@crushdavis7048 No way man! That's the best time of year lol.
I'm like Randy, I don't wear shirts in the summer, and I'm always outside drinking.
"It's like the phone call"
LMAO IT IS!
I believe on the TH-cam Mobile app you can pinch on the video to zoom in
Holy shit thank you. Game changer
@@kd2453 Totally! I did it on accident once, that's how I figured that one out. I instinctively one day tried to zoom in on the board and was shocked it actually worked haha. If you zoom in during one of his game recaps you can see that what is on the board is mostly his script. Makes it super impressive he can fit all of it on the board.
yes you can
Sunday afternoon. Got a beer in hand and pulled pork on the grill. Shannon keeping us informed on the latest news. Good way to spend a lazy Sunday.
i hardly ever comment, but just wanted to say i have been watching every video for a few months now and have loved learning about the history and the inner workings of the nhl. thanks for the videos!
Another professional hockey league? How about we pay more attention and promote the AHL?
Those are the guys who would likely be the majority of a competing league.
New league would have to be "No Holds Barred Hockey".
If otherwise.. then why?
It will be 3v3. It’s sort of a gimmick.
And it may never happen. Their plan is vague and doesn’t sound plausible.
33 team league - 3 divisions of 11. Top team gets into the playoffs automatically (3). 2-5 and 3-4 play a play-in game. Winner makes the playoffs (6). Losers play seed 6 and 7 respectively in another play in. Winner makes the playoffs (6). Last team in the playoffs is whomever has the most points of the losing teams in the play in. Teams get reseeded based on points 1-16 for the playoffs.
To me the 2006 playoffs were wildest, most unpredictable. And in my opinion, the most predictable plauoffs were the prior year, 2005.
Love your videos, Shannon
Your jersey reminds me that I have always wanted to see a Star Wars night where both teams do warm-ups in stormtrooper jerseys and every shot at the net misses. Every one.
The storm troopers missing everything meme is a little weird. In the first movie, in all three movies, it is specifically scenes where they are against the main characters where a lot of misses occur. The rest of the scenes where they shoot show them as quite accurate.
Not from Utah, but hi! Really enjoy the live streams. So informative!
The problem is that Canada taxes federal income and provincial income at an insane level. I live in Washington State, we have no state income tax. Let me repeat that....0 percent state tax.
It is crazy that Hockey still does not have a successful World Cup when sports like Rugby and Cricket have very successful ones even the World Baseball Classic is getting bigger.
The Arena Football leagues are a good example of businesses struggling to make money and be successful.
I liked it when the season started in early October (doesn't have to be the 1st or 2nd of October, but it should start around Canadian Thanksgiving. Season ends around the first weekend of April, maybe Easter weekend, Stanley Cup is awarded before the middle of June, which gives players 1-2 weeks to rest and the winning team to celebrate before the NHL Awards, ASW is back in January, Trade Deadline is back to the last day of February/first day of March).
What I'd like to see the NHL do (and I know it's likely never going to happen with Bettman and Daley involved) is get rid of the conferences and have just the 4 divisions, 1 in each corner of the continent. Each team plays everyone outside of their division twice (one home and one away), and the remaining games within their own division. What this will allow is East and West being the two main brackets for the playoffs one year, North and South the next year, and alternate (diagonal works, but after the 2021 playoffs where Vegas played Montreal in the semi-finals, I don't think that's ideal outside of the Cup Finals).
I 100% agree Shannon with the Four Nation concerns.
I think it would be great to bring back the Canada Cup & the World Cup of Hockey. The four nations tournament seems like a waste.
Love the Hockey Guy! Always great!
I feel like adding more teams is asking for trouble. 32 is a good number.
felt like 2006 post lockout was uniquely unpredictable in addition to years like 93 (which I was 2 years old for I can't speak to it the same way).
The ratings in the US are definitely higher because people aren't going out as much this year
Was really hoping for a question about blackouts. That has to be the most annoying thing for fans
Why is USA v Finland in Montreal and Canada v Finland in Boston? WTF?
So both get to see all four teams.
A lot gets said about the playoff scheduling, but if you look at history, June 24th isn't that late relative to other seasons, even pre-pandemic. The length of the playoffs themselves has remained fairly consistent since going to 4 rounds of best of 7 in 1987. The fact that people are only complaining abut it now is odd to me honestly.
Part of the way it is now is also impacted by the bye-week that is part of the CBA, and also the television deals. Turner and ESPN have both the rights to the NHL and NBA playoffs, so some of the prolonged scheduling is ESPN / Turner wanting to have the products not compete against each-other on the same night (more towards the later rounds), which makes sense.
While I don't disagree that the league could start in September, the notion that the season lasts too long is crazy to me. Re: some fans saying they need to go back to a 70 game season lol.
They schedule around bigger leagues. The NFL is the biggest so need not schedule around anyone. NBA is second, so likely schedules around NFL but doesn't get noticed because NFL teams play once a week. MLB is a different time of year for the most part and most definitely ended weekend World Series games in the afternoon to avoid competing with college and pro football.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but from a capacity standpoint percentage, 100% attendance in Utah, will be the same as 100% in Arizona. Sounds like they are not reporting raw accumulated butts in seats. That number will likely be higher.
I'm sure big market teams will keep making it deep in the playoffs so that the cap can keep rising.
As a baseball fan who has been to Marlins Park numerous times, I think it would handle a hockey game very well. Plus it might be their first sell out in probably a decade. Even in the more lean years in Florida, I am pretty sure The Panthers outdrew the Marlins. That’s pretty amazing as baseball has twice as many games, and over 10k more capacity.
would be nice to see Czech in the tourney. I know Pasta is not pleased, especially seeing what they just did in winning recently. Thanks for the content sir!
Enjoyed the review
When you think about it, would you rather sign in Vancouver (56%) tax or Seattle (37.5%) So you will see teams in Washington, Nevada, Florida, Tennessee always have an advantage
I really don't get why people have an issue with the Final ending a couple weeks later. What does it matter?
Max Power is one of the best hockey player or sports athlete name ever.
Thanks for summarizing the press conference for us. The 4 Nations Cup is meh to me since it's a warmup tournament and a $ grab. Olympics best on best or a consistent series of world cups would be more intriguing.
Players who are charged shouldn't be allowed to play, similar as Trump shouldn't be able to run for presidency while in jail.
(31x2)+(7x2)=62+14=76 games. So a team plays all other teams twice (home and away) + playing the 7 divisional opponents twice more home and away and still play less games than now. Start the season earlier.
Regarding the 4 nations cup: I don't think it was a scheduling problem as much as a logistics problem of organizing things
Regarding the Max Chambers thing: so the thing about Steve Dangle's report that I saw was that a lot of reporters had seen it but were not confident enough to run it. Steve probably didn't have the journalism foundation to recognize the flaws nor realize how far they were. The thing that struck me was when they said the salary cap was 30M. There was a 0% chance that they'd be able to build revenue quickly enough to justify that so either someone was willing to lose a heck of a lot of money or this was an aspiration.
Would love to see a quantitative comparison of playoff predictability. Could use difference in ranking of under dog wins as a means of measurement.
Balanced schedule is the way to go. We always have a list of teams we want to see and the price of some teams is much higher than others. Like McDavid and Bedard games are much higher than Buffalo games….
We haven’t seen the Leafs since 2018 because of the interesting schedule they have coming here (Black Friday tickets are mega bucks, and then our ‘home game’ was in Sweden.)
1-8 playoffs are never going to happen again :(
The Covid year division only season got really old, I'd rather they keep the schedule balanced for now. For transplants, having to wait 2 years to see your favorite team would be a drag.
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New England Sports Network ( NESN ) is our regional. Its been great for Bruins, Pats, Celtics and Red Sox. Revolutuon soccer team too. Jimmy from Boston
I thought the Revolution were on Comcast Sportsnet (as well as C's and Pats pre/postgame coverage)...
In other news Rip Capfriendly they sold their soul to The caps
not really it seems they were forced to be sold to them
the regular season should start the last or second last week of september
Yeah, the team handling their own broadcasts isn't problematic. Just ask Colorado!
Expansion will happen once the land auction situation is done and over with.
Gary Betman is like those old career politicians that never go away. Need more money!!!
It's not a balanced schedule because the Toronto Maple Leafs did not play a game in the Detroit Red Wings' building this season.
1987-88 season..Cup was awarded on May25..Why not look back at that schedule, and do it again..
im down for that
They want the final played in June because May is sweeps month. The ratings in May set the commercial fees on US network TV for the next season. Since hockey is a poor ratings draw on prime time US TV, if the finals are played in May, no games on the networks. In June, the poor ratings don’t matter, so the networks don’t mind carrying a Cup final game in prime time. If you have any question about why certain things are done a certain way in any sport, the answer is always “TV”.
Everyone played on the same days in the 1st round, and it was 4 games in 5 nights to start the series (April 6th, 7th, 9th, and 10th).
Assuming arena availability, I think the NHL prefers having a couple Eastern Conference and a couple Western Conference games each night than all eight all at once.
lol on the jersey selection for this video.
I'm sleeping outside tonight. Don't mind the roof.
Can we rename major league hockey, "The Fyre Festival of Hockey" because that's exactly what it sounds like.
They should run a promotion that every fight is a thousand donated to the cause . Hockey " Fights " cancer .
I can read the board just fine. 27 inch monitor though.
I hate the board, I just read it and close the video in 2min, It's distracting..
I think they could put a rival league in Europe. It would cut into players available. If it got competitive enough it could rival the NHL. A European league would be cheaper to run as travel distances are much less.
Don’t all the professional leagues in Europe technically already count as rival leagues? I think they were specifically referring to in North America.
Utah has the feel the team and new fans can be a smash hit. Get some smart hockey folks in there identify a core from all those young players and draft picks and let em rip into the next few seasons
If the white board were just for you, it would be behind the camera so that only you see it.
The white board is for us, like students in front of a teacher, I copy the notes off the white board and use those to study for the test. It's YOUR responsibility to make sure I'm learning write.
Well, to be fair, a "down turn economically" has been here since the lockdowns. Mostly being kept afloat from government bailouts, but thats drying up
Its just simply that most people that would watch sports still haven't cut the cord on sports just yet. This coming NFL season with so many different streaming services showing games will test that
This is the first season I will not be watching any NFL games, my team sucks and moved away and honestly I just don’t enjoy the game anymore. Hockey is the only sport now that I care about
I like the Balanced schedule.. but at the same time growing up in the 80's with the very unbalanced schedule there.. the rivalries where huge. I think you need to find a balance.. maybe keep 4 divs.. but rather than the 2 conferences being locked in.. you rotate that other division in the conference. So rather than an east vs west thing.. rotate the other division you see.. so rather than being in the east and rarely seeing west teams... this year the met conferences with the pacific and atlantic with central.. then swap the following year with the met with central and Atlantic with pacific and keep rotating them around.. don't call them east and west, go back to Prince of Wales and Clarence Campbell names... I think the only real change needed for LTIR... Make 1 day per year.. just before the season begins where LTIR is NOT available and you have to be under the cap. I like 3 days before opening day,. then you can move players to LTIR after 24 hours but for that 24 hours you have to be under the cap... then you can go pick up players that are still unsigned... that will stop this stashing guys on LTIR to use later when you have to count them.
Imagine trying to start a rival leaugue? LMAO
> RFAs and qualifying
I think they should also introduce arbitration for all types of RFAs. Just so that there is a deadline to get things done.
There is a deadline for RFAs though. The deadline is December 1st or they they turn into a UFA the following year
@@justjohnny420 it's a very bad deadline. It's way past the start of the training camp.
Would Four Nations Cup work and be balanced if it were: CANADA, USA, NORDIC (Sweden, Finland, Norway, Denmark) and EUROPE (Russia, Germany, Slovakia, Latvia, Switzerland, Czechia). I think it would still be pretty balanced even though some teams have many countries. What do you think?
I am very excited for 4 Nations Cup yes I do wish more teams could join, but I see this as the warmup not to the Olympics but to the World Cup of Hockey they plan for 2028, I think for the 4 nations cup they would not have been able to get an agreement by the IHF regarding sending players for February but in 2028 I imagine they will because I think the leagues plan is to have its world cup mean more than the Olympics think like in soccer and to do that, they have to get the international players involved.
I would watch Ottawa vs Columbus during super bowl if I could.
I'd rather watch pee wee hockey than watch the Blue Jackets.
@@OWlsfordshire Yeah, maybe I crossed the line there.
Your thoughts on the Capitals buying Capfriendly?
GARY the gary vault in fallout 3
Love the jersey. Have the same one. With the same number. What name do you have on it???
It's the name you want to touch.
*Cap increased by $5M
Matthews: I'm gonna need a $4.9M raise
This might be Marner instead. His contract is the one that is up next year.
Gary will move another team to Arizona
That Max Chambers name definitely sounds like something a guy with the name of Steve "Dangle" would make up lol
sounds like a Bishop Sycamore fiasco
I knew someone (for real) named Max Hayt. So it could be real, LOL.
He didn’t make it up.
So the GMs are gonna have to risk looking like absolute idiots to the public if they qualify their charged HC 2018 players for rights retention... If I understand that right then I don't think we see anyone qualified for optics alone.
That and honestly all the players are replaceable. Some are better than others but there isn’t anyone apart of that case who is a must have player in my opinion. A GM can go out and find a comparable replacement without any of the negative PR.
I dont agree with THG. I love Finnish players and our team but i would be hyped even for usa vs canada freadly with best players.
Shannon has to stop taking team attendance reports at face value. Teams do not report actual attendance - they report tickets distributed. "Distributed" means not just ticket buyers but also the massive numbers of tickets left over every game that are given to charities, radio stations, corporate groups, players and staff. Teams report official attendance to the NHL, but the public never sees those numbers.
I think a 4 team expansion would make sense. Three divisions per conference, six teams per division. Teams play the opposing conference and opposing divisions twice (1 home 1 away) and play their own division five times (2 home 2 away 1 alternating). That's only 3 more games at 85 and could make divisions more exciting.
Shannon, you rule!!!!!!
Comparing 3 team trades and LTIR as equal in the context of cap circumvention has to be the worst take shan has ever had
Regardless of how lawyer-in-chief wants to frame it, scheduling scared because NFL, NBA, MLB are all bigger draws is not bold enough. It's weak.
There is already a world cup, these players want to play golf in the summer. Give them some time off.
Bring back an outdoor game to Detroit & Michigan. We have more than enough sites. We are an original six location. The NFL draft proved the city & state are ready for more big events.
Do I really want to see kings play ducks or sharks like 8 times?
Certainly not 8, but maybe 5? 4, and 3 games within the division seems way too few though.
@Bum_Hip I just remembered years ago being like 6 vs div opponent. Too many
You probably don't. During the covid season, I hated watching the blues vs coyotes a bunch of times. It felt like deja vu.
I know this will never happen because the owners don't want to give up the revenue, and it may be a distinct minority opinion among fans. But I would not mind finding a way to cut the playoffs back to three rounds. Four best-of-7 series after an 82-game regular season is a death march, set aside the fact that it extends the season into June. It puts an awful lot of importance on injury luck - can you avoid losing key players to injury?
The best on best international hockey tournament will not happen until the Russians are included again… It’s getting ridiculous at this point
Another stupid thought by me. Start sooner, dont have playoffs of NBA and NHL overlap. Yes the NBA does schedule around the NHL. Miami Heat Vs FL Panthers. NHL releases their playoffs first. NBA purposely always puts Miami games and FL Panthers games on the same day and at the same time. This year was BS. The FL early start on game 1. Miami, gets almost the exact same time slot. They do it all season long and playoffs long. They try to put the NBA teams against the NHL teams to try to force the local market to divide which team they are going to watch or follow. Maybe other fans from other markets see this happen as well.
Keep the Red Wings in the East. The Wings can play more games against Chicago, St. Louis, Minnesota, Colorado and Winnipeg. We just don't want to play, play off series on the west coast.
Will Nesn still be the bruins and pens
In some way, shape, or form. The Bruins own 20% of NESN (the Boston Red Sox own the other 80%).
So unlike other RSN's where the RSN pays the team and recoups the money via ads and subscriber fees (which leads to RSN bankruptcy and a contract not being paid), the Bruins receive 20% of whatever NESN earns.
(And frankly, it's the Bruins that keep me on cable...)
Gary Bettman > Rob Manfred
The start and end of the season is such a non-issue to me. If you don't care when other sports start, you shouldn't care when the NHL starts. Unless the only reason you care about when it starts is because you care about when it ends, but then why do you care when it ends?
I dunno, complaining about the season ending in late June just feels like a "you can't be playing hockey in the summer" kind of thing, along the same lines as the "hockey in the desert?" attitude about the Coyotes.
In Canada especially, people tend not to watch TV as much in the summer because they’re outside, at the lake, etc. So finishing earlier would help.
However, the US teams don’t want to start the season in September because that means more games competing for attention with the NFL and college football.
But shortening the season would reduce revenue.
So October-to-June is the compromise. The NBA has the same issue.
No Russia, huh?
The four nation cup thing seems like a quick cash grab especially since only 4 nations.....this is what the olympics are for nhl should stick to nhl..haha max power
starting in september would be great also cross polination happens with NFL/NHL who share the same market more than you think also its only build up to Kickoff and the first Monday,Thursday Night Games also the NFL is becoming predictable.
Divisional "rivalries" are the most boring thing imaginable, facing the same teams 10 times per season or something.
Did anyone else think it was R.A. from Spittin' Chiclets in the thumbnail?
No lol
On the balanced schedule issue, it seems bizarre that it’s such a big deal to have every team in every building every year so every city gets to see Crosby or McDavid or whoever, since any fan can see these top players whenever they want just by tuning in their games on TV. They can watch them 82 times if they want. If the argument goes, “well Vancouver fans want to see Crosby in person”, the only people seeing him in person are the 18,000 people in the building that night while all the rest are still watching him on TV, so the game might as well be in Timbuktu for all that matters. So we’re kept from a more sensible schedule for the 18,000 people in Vancouver who have tickets to that one game?
FUN FACT- Gary Bettman STILL......SUCKS 🏆
Still better than Adam Silver and Roger Goodelll
@@JBTriple8No commissioner in a long time has been better then goodell financially
I want the GMS or whoever to put those short-handed goals to cancel the minor powerplays. Just NHL players is basically just an expanded All-Star tourney, big deal. Bowman and Quenville should have gone to jail, I don't want them back. You think other players around the league aren't pissed about Vegas? Lol
25 years and only 36 mil raised???? Anyone else think thats pathetic?
It depends on how much it cost to raise it.
The NHL is still part of the Major 4 sports
Well multiple lockouts and a shitty cba the player association agreed to would do that
The season shouldn’t start until October, not because of the NFL but because the season is too long now.
I can't stand 3 on 3 overtime. Why would anyone watch a second rate version of that? I would rather see a pro roller hockey league than that