Please don’t give it more attention than it deserves. Reviewing the first episode was more than enough. Don’t torture yourself anymore and let it die in obscurity where it belongs.
this is nothing new most documentaries are almost this bad just done better in he sense of better lying and doing better at being insidious. all they do is rewrite history since i started studying 20 yrs ago
As an Egyptian, watching all ancient Egyptians depicted as black subsaharan africans, is as offensive as watching a Chinese history documentary played by Indian cast, cause they're both in Asia
@@tien7022 I was being sarcastic :) Off-course Indian and Chinese are different and that's my point about Egypt and subsaharan Africa, just because they're both in Africa, doesn't mean they're same ethnicity
I hope that Egypt wins its lawsuit and the morons that made this have to apologize for lying and admit they lied about almost everything. Literally staring the handful of true things but definitely retracting that she was black, and that the Romans were black. And yes it does matter because this is actually history not some made up story
*The Ptolemies, who insisted on Macedonian and Greek superiority, had ruled Egypt for centuries without ever learning the Egyptian language or adopting its customs. Cleopatra, on the other hand, was fluent in Egyptian, her mother tongue, Greek, and also mastered other languages* . *How many colonisers took the trouble to learn the language of the colonised country ?* *If Cleopatra VII was the only one of the Ptolemies to have learned the Egyptian language, despite reigning for centuries, that means it was therefore necessary to have an Egyptian interlocutor. Someone close to her. Who better than her own mother ?* *Cleopatra's daughter honoured the Egyptian religious elite in her distant capital of Caesarea of Mauretania (in modern Algeria) by building a temple dedicated to Isis . It makes sense when you honour your own ancestors* . *In the manuscript L'Abreujamen de las estorias (BL, Egerton MS. 1500) written around 1321-24 by Paolino Veneto, available online (type 'f. 15v Cleopatra and Julius Caesar'), Julius Caesar is depicted in white, and Cleopatra in black* .
Every time I see that shot of black Cleopatra putting on historically inaccurate snake crown, I wanna scream. As a black man, I’m embarrassed this travesty of a show exists. 🤦🏾♂️
Kudos for shedding light on the real problem which is Afrocentrism. Alot of people think the Egyptian backlash is due to a mere case of race swapping Cleopatra in a tv show, whereas the real reason for the backlash is the Afrocentric campaign that this documentary is part of.
Totally agree! You narrated it perfectly. I am black and this is so embarrassing and stupid and I am so tired of Black people doing this ridiculous nonsense. Black-Washing at its finest. 👍🏽
The Romans, especially Octavian, were very well known for calling out people for being illegitimate or bastard children. Octavian called Cleopatra every name under the sun but never called her a bastard. This means her mother was married to her father, Ptolomy, a Greek. This means Cleopatra's mother almost certainly Greek too. Also, the claim that Cleopatra was born from a tryst with a Egyptian or black lover makes no sense because the lineage obsessed Ptolomy's would never elevate a bastard child to the role of co-pharoh.
Yes!! That was my biggest gripe, it was as if nobody in production understood Roman/Egyptian politics at all!! As a major history buff it was honestly hard to watch with how bad they butchered the whole story.
Cleopetras paternity might be in doubt in the matter that modern historians dont know out of which two of Ptolemys wives were cleopetras mother. These two women one being Ptolemys sister and the other his own daughter makes sure that cleopetra can not be anything other than greek masadonian with maybe a hint of persian dna.
@@bnine6669 you can tell which of the academics in the series are history professors and which are race and gender studies professors. Hint there are no history professors in the series.
Its ironic the creators of this show ignored the black Kushite kingdom just to the south. They even conquered ancient Egypt with a kushite dynasty before being displaced.
I did some research after watching the reactions of some Egyptians on TH-cam reacting to this production, and this farce goes far beyond pushing the idea that Cleopatra is Black. The Afrocentric movement claims that Blacks completely occupied ALL of Africa, so the Egyptians who built the pyramids were Black, as were the Carthaginians who fought Rome, King David and Moses from the Bible were Black, and so on. Why do Egyptians and other north Africans have light-brown skin today with facial features we consider "White"? Because the Afrocentric movement claims that the Arabs invaded and killed all Blacks in north Africa and the Middle East, so they claim that Egyptians living in Egypt today have not only culturally appropriated their history, but they are also the descendants of mass murderers. It does not good to do DNA tests on mummies from the periods in question, which show that the Egyptians living in Egypt today are essentially the same people who lived there for thousands of years, not Blacks. It does not good to show pictures painted on tombs and temples by ancient Egyptians, where the Egyptians were painted with brown paint, but their enemies (Nubians and Semitic people like the Assyrians) were depicted with either Black or White paint. It does not good to show coins with Cleopatras image on them, or statues or paintings which clearly show she is not African. You really cannot blame Egyptians (and Greeks) for being upset about this retelling of history.
Those folks don't seem to realize that accrediting every white historical figure as a part of black achievement comes across as a lack of ACTUAL worthwhile black achievement to report on... if I had made a name for myself and been successful, I can't imagine I'd be clinging to the achievements of others as if they were my own. I don't take credit for what other guys or other black folk have accomplished, so I sure as hell wouldn't take claim the life or works of a historical figure... what a sad, strange little worldview these ignorant morons must have. It's hard not to be ashamed of the color of my skin when most Americans who share it are self-centric racist scum
You don't get to go that far. Disney cast a real Hawaiin to play Nani in the upcoming Lilo & Stitch and these crazies complained she wasn't dark enough and sent dead threats to the casting director.
@@mofleh177 It's from the book 1984 by George Orwell, which tells the story of a dystopian future where a totalitarian state watches and controls every part of it's citizens lives. It's a cautionary tale against totalitarianism and how the truth can be warped and dragged away from fact.
Note that the sword that Yaaasss Queen is using in the battle that she, like, totally could win is a Greek sword called a kopis. I am sure the historians and HEMA foks among you can correct me (please do) but shouldn't she likely be using a kopesh, which is different?
Nope, the Egyptian army under Ptolemaic rule largely adopted Macedonian battle tactics and equipment (large parts of the manpower were actually drafted from Greek settlers) so the use of that type of sword is indeed accurate. The khopesh was mainly used during the bronze age and only appeared as a ceremonial weapon or in religious rituals later. The Romans use relatively accurate equipment as well, instead of putting them in 2nd century A.D. armor as a lot of productions tend to do, so at least in that department there seem to have been a few people involved actually knowing what they do.
11:20 Either I’m crazy or I know there is no way on Earth that the lady in the back left is wearing a hairstyle that you would see anywhere in Egypt, let alone Earth… Ok, maybe one of the producers might wear that hairstyle, but it’s not like I’d know.
Scholars generally identify Cleopatra as having been essentially of Greek ancestry with some Persian and Sogdian Iranian ancestry, based on the fact that her Macedonian Greek family (the Ptolemaic dynasty) had intermarried with the Seleucid dynasty.
Cleopatra and her family can't be black figures because they were Greeks. The Ptolemies, originated in the Greek Kingdom of Macedonia (Alexander the Great). Κλεοπάτρα was just the last member of a Greek Dynasty that ruled Egypt, as other Greek Dynasties ruled Asian Kingdoms in the same period (Bactria, Seleucid Empire, Indo-Greek Kingdom etc). {Greek/Hellenistic period of Central Asia and North Africa}.
@@dr.banoub9233 of course, they were not. They were some black Egyptians but this doesn;t make the entire Egyptian civilization a black African civilization. Egypt was always an intercontinental country. Closer to the Levant than the rest African body thus they had Levantine characteristics. We the Greeks, as Mediterranean neighbors of Egypt with shared Historical chapters with them know very well that the Egyptians are not sub Saharian figures.
@@mariosathens1 There’s no such thing as there ever being any “Black Egyptians”. Copts and their pharaonic Egyptian ancestors are an endogamous people, just like Greeks are endogamous. Any sub-Saharan living in ancient Egypt would have been Nubian, and probably slaves or turncoats like the Nubian police force known as the Medjai.
@@dr.banoub9233 yes, when i said about some "black Egyptians" i meant the Nubians. I am aware that the fairytale about "black Egyptians" started from the Afro-Americans and spread via social media. It has nothing to do with historical facts but with a black supremacist movement that blackwashes everything in its path.
@@IntroducingMrLucci Go ahead, convince yourself of that. It’s called therapeutic mythology. BTW, in 2023 we have DNA, which is king, and forensic science never lies, unlike Hotep fuckery!
Do they get anything right in this documentary, she wasn’t even beautiful. She was Greek, average looking and just used by men. They make her out to be in total control and like a goddess in this show.
Yeah, those experts had me roaring with laughter throughout the entire show. They weren't really actual scholars or researchers, they were Feminist researchers or Black Studies researchers, which means they didn't do much research. And that's also why they were so surprised to find out how royal succession works, and all the other facts that they apparently think they were the first ones to uncover.
If Jada Smith is going to make Cleopatra in an image of who she thinks a powerful woman is, then she should have had Cleopatra cheat on her husband with her son’s best friend, and then make her husband feel bad about it in a public interview 🤣
The best review of this Netflix disaster series, as he enumerates it’s lies beyond lies mixed with more lies & covered in lies & then entrenched with even more lies.
Jada PinkSmith does not know history. does not know what Africa is, does not know how Ethnicity works and how genealogy works... How was she ever trusted with this in hand, that is beyond me.
As an Egyptian, I want to say to any African American, go to Google and type this phrase (the geographic nature of Egypt), you will find that Egypt is a country, the majority of which is located in Asia, and the rest is in Africa, the Mediterranean basin. Philosophers of the ancient world came to Egypt, and we Egyptians have become this geographic nature in Everything and I am not responsible for the psychological problems and feelings of racial inferiority that the African American suffers from
The problem seems to be from 1 faction from W of W Africa. who claim famous high profile Egypt history, ignore own + E of W Africa,,Central,, E,,S regions of Africa)'s other histories..But W Africans mostly from Niger Congo language family, are not their Nubian + etc..NileSahara. heros..To get access to Egypt history,.they place selves +"all other Africans in 1 skin,color race = 1 culture = 1 politics..copied from white racism,, idea, =.1 generic Black African group.
@@kristianstorgaard9309 Go to Google and record this phrase: the geography of Egypt and the Egyptian part in Africa are residents of the Mediterranean basin, Libyans, Tunisians, Algerians, Moroccans, and Egyptians are residents of the Mediterranean basin, not blacks
black people are not racially inferior there's really no superior race on earth sometimes its geography and past mistakes and world history and other factors that shaped who we all are. We are all humans and it's a shame we can't learn from history and move on to a better future. I want things to get better not worse, don't you?
12:25 sounds like an unintentional self-own, saying that only the BLACK Egyptians were inbreds, rather it being a thing plenty of royal families all over the world did.
4:33 I'm sorry, WHAT! Genghis Khan? Who the hell is saying that, there's countless images of the guy, he was the leader of the Mongols who are from Mongolian which is miles away from Africa, and Khan himself was specifically from a part of Monglia known as the Steppes. How drunk on whatever are these people
They're flyin' high on a lil home-grown drug we call "ego", with a side of "racially-driven hivemind animosity", and let's not forget "faux-victimization" for their dessert
@grandarkfang3537 sir or ma'am, I'm here to remind you that the GrammarNazi legion was disbanded well over a decade ago and none have ever been loved or respected... it is not a role worthy of anyone who has even the slightest hint of decency, much less of compassion or intelligence just sayin' 🤡
Saying Egyptians are Africans is only correct on a technicality. Egypt is a country in the continent of African. However, there is a noticeable visual difference between native Egyptians and what we know as native Africans
Instead of Netflix and these groups appropriating established white characters and peoples/history (referencing Ariel), why don't people actually explore African history? Like the Successes of Malian Empire, Hailie Selassie of Ethiopia, or the explore the folklore such as African Simbi/Mermaids? (instead of changing the original Ariel) I think the problem is Hollywood and the people who peddle this want to be seen as diverse, without doing actual work to display diverse medias given the proper respect. We also need to not blackwash or depict history inauthentically. Historical accuracy according to records should take precedent. (But this would be an ideal world)
And this is why they go in hard on chagning up big ips like starwars, trek, lord of the rings etc etc Do that enough and it somehow becomes acceptable to start changing up History
Cleopetra didnt identify as egyptian either. She distinctly identified herself as macadonian greek and often flaunted her familial connection to alexander. She distinctly used these to her benefit as upper class romans spoke greek not latin and Caser himself was extremely fascinated by Alexander. Also Cleopetra's ability as a general can be perfectly summed up by this "She ran away when she was in the perfect position to flank Aggrippas fleet at Actium". Which I think she did purposefully because she wanted to play both sides. Truth of the matter is she was at best a footnote in the history of Caeser and Augustus. She is famous because Shakespeare made her famous a thousand year later when he wrote a fake play.
Adrian Goldsworthy said it best: for all her fame as a seductress, symbol of the East, and a strong woman in a male dominated world, Cleopatra was irrelevant in a world dominated by Rome, just another client kingdom that relied on Roman backing to keep her throne just like the other client rulers
The only thing they missed was Cleopatra transcending death and being carried into the afterlife, only to come back reincarnated as Jada Smith who is telling us her past life as the narrator.
Kang's casting in the mcu probably had something to do with the fact that a black actor (also called Jonathan funnily enough) voiced him in Avengers: Earth's mightiest heroes. The same thing happened with J'onn J'onzz in Justice League. Carl Lumbly voiced him in that show than after that, it's been mostly black actors playing him.
7:39 super funny! however I got my own rendition: *Cleosha* 😆🤭 PS. *"Kangs* without a Kingdom"** is what black people say about these racist black supremecists/extremists. We see it as more jealousy than trying to correct any wrongs done to black people because they don't build anything they just COMPLAIN and hate on white people day and night. There's no honor nor real power in that at all, heck, they even attack other black people who understand where they are coming from, but try to reason with them that going to the extreme fabricating history and being hypnotized with hate, is not helping black people at all.
Not a good comparison but imagine someone makes a documentary on Nelson Mandela and cast Hugh Grant because *''No matter what schools might have told us, he was definitely a White man''*
Thank you for addressing the historical racism of Afrocentrisim. So many people are making the mistake if think Black Cleopatra is modern 2023 wokeness...but this Africentrism goes back to the 1960s and is in more of modern Academia than people think
I do love when documentaries use Coleen Darnell, who got her bonafides sleeping with her married professor, then got her fame by wandering around Egypt dressed like a 1900’s British colonizer…. Yeah.. well done, Coleen…
What I do not understand is why some black people want to steal Egypt's history and remake it to suit their inferiority complex. I do not have any problem with black people per se. Actually I have many friends who are black. But what those people did in this documentary is totally unethical and unacceptable 😢
Let me drop a historical fact on you that army that. Cleopatra got were mostly made up of mercenaries. And when Ptolemy went crying to Julius Caesar. After capturing Pompeii that army crapped bricks so hard because they heard Julius was in town they fled. Leaving her with not much of an army just a ragtag group of people outside of. Egypt in this fighting force was massively outnumbered by. A Roman army legion two of them and also an Egyptian force that was building up. To finally crush Cleopatra and bring her back to Egypt if Cleopatra did not surrender herself. To Caesar and beg for his protection she would have been soundly defeated. But fortunately for her Caesar took her in because Ptolemy messed-up messily because he was a ten-year-old. Boy being advised by corrupt politicians and they killed. Pompeii why was Caesar mad that they killed him well one he was a Roman citizen. Into he was Caesars best friend and three he wanted to parade. Pompeii's defeat to the Roman people now he can't do that. And the fourth reason Pompeii was a Roman Consul pretty big deal. He wanted his transition to dictator as smooth as possible. With his death it made Caesar look bad and he had to really clean up his image. So he was massively pissed off at Ptolemy for setting him back politically. In a fifth reason Pompeii married JULIUS CAESAR'S DAUGHTER THEY HAD NO CHILDREN BUT HE WAS. STILL A BROTHER-IN-LAW A FAMILY TO JULIUS CAESAR !!!!!! And also his daughter died while they were married. So given those list of reasons why wouldn't you be pissed off that some 10 year old brat. Killed your brother-in-law / political rivals/best friend.
the notion that Egypt was black is propelled by the wrong fact that modern north Africans are ethnically from the peninsula and they got colonized. but in fact north Africans assimilated (like every other Arab) to the Arabic culture and developed the culture we know now that IS a continuation of our ancient culture. it's very conspicuous if you dig deep in our culture
The daughter of Cleopatra and Marcus Antoinus is buried in North Africa in a gigantic mausoleum. She was Queen of the Moors with her husband King Juba 2
Ces cons s'en battent les couilles. La fille de Cléopâtre est enterrée en Algérie, elle a a règné en Maurétanie et ça n'a pas l'air de percuter. Ils pleurent maintenant, mais n'ont jamais rien remarqué quand c'est les maghrébins qui sont systématiquement dépeints comme des khels dans les films et series historiques. Alors que c'est la même idéologie qui pousse derrière. Même pour l'Égypte ils sont prêts à accepter la version des khels. Mais comme Cléopâtre était macédonienne, là ils ont réagi. Il fait aussi faire comprendre que fiction ou pas, c'est un crime, car ça va toujours dans le sens afrocentriste. Il faut continuer à lutter pour les empêcher de s'approprier notre histoire, notre place éminente dans la marche de la civilisation et nos mérites militaires. Et surtout laissez pas traîner les soeurs avec ces crevards.
As a lifelong equestrian, I can also say the actress (and other actors) in the series are awful riders. Most have no balance, no sync with their horses, and are bouncing too much. Poor horses!!!
''Racist" is a very correct word for this ''documentary'' I would say it's a ''racist paranoia'' and can become very dangerous in a long term, let aside it's correctness.
I haven’t watched it, but… I do think much of the bad acting can actually be attributed to poor direction rather than poor acting. Remember that actors are servants to the script and the direction. If either one is bad, it will be a poor performance no matter what the actor does.
working in the film industry, this is somewhat true but you can also believe that sometimes even with a decent direction, you will have bad acting... Some actors are just bad. Sadly.
Oh and also. This is another important detail which this false racist documentary "overlooked": the ancient Egyptians used to shave their head because of lice while lice does not like to jump or feeling joly in kinky or coily hair. None of the Egyptian mummies in fact do not have or show "Afros" or kinky hair, except Maiherpri, a southern Kushite. He was a fanbearer and trusted by thutmose IV.. I have to say further too that the ssAfrican admix is a recent introduction into this part of Africa and the result of the trans Saharan slave trade. "Black" sub saharan African never could travel north, see the Bantu expansion-migration. So while I cheer your effort to call the racists out, this other important detail need to be corrected. It was after the Islamic conquest that North Africand(Berbers) and Arabs who went south, to cross the worlds deadliest and hottest natural barriere, to buy slaves, which they bought from local ethnic ot tribal groups, who were at war with other ssAfrican tribal groups. So "black" slave traders(Mansa Musa of the Mali empire is from an era after the Islamic conquest. He traded with Arab merchants in west Africa) never reached north Africa with slaves, the slaves were mostly bought in ssAfrica and transported toward the MENA region. Before that or during the Roman era, the only ssAfrican known to them would be the "Nubians" or both upper and lower Kushites. Definately not Bantu people or west/central Africans.
If this vid gets more than 1000 likes, i'll review the second episode
It's more than one episode?! Dear gawd NO I hope this video gets 1000 likes but there's no need. This ish is turrible.
you really shouldn't suffer through this, I give like just for the Like of this vid. :)
Please don’t give it more attention than it deserves. Reviewing the first episode was more than enough. Don’t torture yourself anymore and let it die in obscurity where it belongs.
this is nothing new most documentaries are almost this bad just done better in he sense of better lying and doing better at being insidious. all they do is rewrite history since i started studying 20 yrs ago
It gets better in the second as our favourite professor turns into a psy-chic (pun intended).
One thing I did learn though from this Netflix show is that the bar for becoming a professor in the USA is incredibly low.
The worst part is that black people are calling Egyptians racist……how’s that for hypocrisy
😂 u.s blacks must understand their culture is ghetto culture not egyptina culture.
You should say the worst FULL is***
They call everyone racist all day everyday.
The Egyptians actually do have racism among them. Nothing wrong with calling that out.
@@blackagent4754 Everyone has the racism. It's no big deal
As an Egyptian, watching all ancient Egyptians depicted as black subsaharan africans, is as offensive as watching a Chinese history documentary played by Indian cast, cause they're both in Asia
Please don’t refer Indian and Chinese are Asian. Our ethnicity is either Chinese, Indian, or Vietnamese. We don’t share their identity.
Get lost Hotep!
Coptic Christians are the direct most purest descendants of the pharaohs.
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He was joking, ffs! Sarcasm is obviously a difficult concept for some to grasp.
@@tien7022 I was being sarcastic :) Off-course Indian and Chinese are different and that's my point about Egypt and subsaharan Africa, just because they're both in Africa, doesn't mean they're same ethnicity
this doing this with Uk history to they had a black Ann Boylan
I hope that Egypt wins its lawsuit and the morons that made this have to apologize for lying and admit they lied about almost everything. Literally staring the handful of true things but definitely retracting that she was black, and that the Romans were black. And yes it does matter because this is actually history not some made up story
*The Ptolemies, who insisted on Macedonian and Greek superiority, had ruled Egypt for centuries without ever learning the Egyptian language or adopting its customs. Cleopatra, on the other hand, was fluent in Egyptian, her mother tongue, Greek, and also mastered other languages* .
*How many colonisers took the trouble to learn the language of the colonised country ?*
*If Cleopatra VII was the only one of the Ptolemies to have learned the Egyptian language, despite reigning for centuries, that means it was therefore necessary to have an Egyptian interlocutor. Someone close to her. Who better than her own mother ?*
*Cleopatra's daughter honoured the Egyptian religious elite in her distant capital of Caesarea of Mauretania (in modern Algeria) by building a temple dedicated to Isis . It makes sense when you honour your own ancestors* .
*In the manuscript L'Abreujamen de las estorias (BL, Egerton MS. 1500) written around 1321-24 by Paolino Veneto, available online (type 'f. 15v Cleopatra and Julius Caesar'), Julius Caesar is depicted in white, and Cleopatra in black* .
I also heard that Egypt is making their own documentary because of this, which is pretty cool
Every time I see that shot of black Cleopatra putting on historically inaccurate snake crown, I wanna scream. As a black man, I’m embarrassed this travesty of a show exists. 🤦🏾♂️
She was not even a great leader and accomplished nothing, Under her reign Egypt was lost to Rome and saw the end of the Ptolemaic dynasty!
I dunno: thought plastic snake crown went well with the costumes from boohoo
“I remember my Grandmother saying to me ... I don’t care what they teach you at school, Cleopatra was black.” Granny off her meds again
Unfortunately there is no medicine against stupidity and ignorance.
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Kudos for shedding light on the real problem which is Afrocentrism.
Alot of people think the Egyptian backlash is due to a mere case of race swapping Cleopatra in a tv show, whereas the real reason for the backlash is the Afrocentric campaign that this documentary is part of.
Totally agree! You narrated it perfectly. I am black and this is so embarrassing and stupid and I am so tired of Black people doing this ridiculous nonsense. Black-Washing at its finest. 👍🏽
The Romans, especially Octavian, were very well known for calling out people for being illegitimate or bastard children. Octavian called Cleopatra every name under the sun but never called her a bastard. This means her mother was married to her father, Ptolomy, a Greek. This means Cleopatra's mother almost certainly Greek too. Also, the claim that Cleopatra was born from a tryst with a Egyptian or black lover makes no sense because the lineage obsessed Ptolomy's would never elevate a bastard child to the role of co-pharoh.
Also, the royals in any dynasty are not known for choosing low-class people as concubines.
The upper class in Alexandria were almost all greek.
Exactly!
Yes!! That was my biggest gripe, it was as if nobody in production understood Roman/Egyptian politics at all!! As a major history buff it was honestly hard to watch with how bad they butchered the whole story.
Cleopetras paternity might be in doubt in the matter that modern historians dont know out of which two of Ptolemys wives were cleopetras mother. These two women one being Ptolemys sister and the other his own daughter makes sure that cleopetra can not be anything other than greek masadonian with maybe a hint of persian dna.
@@bnine6669 you can tell which of the academics in the series are history professors and which are race and gender studies professors. Hint there are no history professors in the series.
Its ironic the creators of this show ignored the black Kushite kingdom just to the south. They even conquered ancient Egypt with a kushite dynasty before being displaced.
@@IntroducingMrLucci Who is "us" ? Are you Nubians ?
I did some research after watching the reactions of some Egyptians on TH-cam reacting to this production, and this farce goes far beyond pushing the idea that Cleopatra is Black. The Afrocentric movement claims that Blacks completely occupied ALL of Africa, so the Egyptians who built the pyramids were Black, as were the Carthaginians who fought Rome, King David and Moses from the Bible were Black, and so on. Why do Egyptians and other north Africans have light-brown skin today with facial features we consider "White"? Because the Afrocentric movement claims that the Arabs invaded and killed all Blacks in north Africa and the Middle East, so they claim that Egyptians living in Egypt today have not only culturally appropriated their history, but they are also the descendants of mass murderers.
It does not good to do DNA tests on mummies from the periods in question, which show that the Egyptians living in Egypt today are essentially the same people who lived there for thousands of years, not Blacks. It does not good to show pictures painted on tombs and temples by ancient Egyptians, where the Egyptians were painted with brown paint, but their enemies (Nubians and Semitic people like the Assyrians) were depicted with either Black or White paint. It does not good to show coins with Cleopatras image on them, or statues or paintings which clearly show she is not African.
You really cannot blame Egyptians (and Greeks) for being upset about this retelling of history.
Talk about racial appropriation. 😒
Those folks don't seem to realize that accrediting every white historical figure as a part of black achievement comes across as a lack of ACTUAL worthwhile black achievement to report on... if I had made a name for myself and been successful, I can't imagine I'd be clinging to the achievements of others as if they were my own.
I don't take credit for what other guys or other black folk have accomplished, so I sure as hell wouldn't take claim the life or works of a historical figure... what a sad, strange little worldview these ignorant morons must have. It's hard not to be ashamed of the color of my skin when most Americans who share it are self-centric racist scum
History is the new fan-fiction apparently :/
I guess you've never heard of the Nuremberg trials
@@celticogre8360? am I overlooking the correlation here
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Wow, you must really hate how the Holocaust is top three if not the most well documented historical events ever.
@@zachryder3150 If it's illegal to ask whether or not something happened in the country where it supposedly happened it probably didn't happen
@@celticogre8360 or they're just taking extreme precautions so that it doesn't happen again.
It looked more like an African movie than an Egyptian movie
Exactly their clothes hair style looks nothing like Egyptian
Honestly, I believe these experts. I met a guy who lived in a van down by the river. He told me that Hitler was Jamaican.
Lmfao, they should do a documentary of Martin Luther King...... With a white person. Imagine the outrage.
@@darrengordon-hill well, they keep posting the same shit in earnest, so....
with a white albino
Ryan Gosling as Malcolm X
Cillian Murphy as MLK
Let's make Nelson Mandela a white Afrikaaner while we're at it
You don't get to go that far. Disney cast a real Hawaiin to play Nani in the upcoming Lilo & Stitch and these crazies complained she wasn't dark enough and sent dead threats to the casting director.
Remember how upset the Greeks were at Colin Farrell's portrayal of Alexander the Great? They didn't know how good they had it.
Thank you for the good work. I'm really disgusted at how people like these can get away with such inaccurate crap.
*”He who controls the past controls the future.”-1984*
Who said that?
@@mofleh177 It's from the book 1984 by George Orwell, which tells the story of a dystopian future where a totalitarian state watches and controls every part of it's citizens lives. It's a cautionary tale against totalitarianism and how the truth can be warped and dragged away from fact.
@@mofleh177 Seriously? Orwell.
This was so hilarious oh my gosh lol. I'm more of a historian than these "experts."
Note that the sword that Yaaasss Queen is using in the battle that she, like, totally could win is a Greek sword called a kopis. I am sure the historians and HEMA foks among you can correct me (please do) but shouldn't she likely be using a kopesh, which is different?
this one comment put more thought into historical accuracy than this whole series did
Nope, the Egyptian army under Ptolemaic rule largely adopted Macedonian battle tactics and equipment (large parts of the manpower were actually drafted from Greek settlers) so the use of that type of sword is indeed accurate. The khopesh was mainly used during the bronze age and only appeared as a ceremonial weapon or in religious rituals later. The Romans use relatively accurate equipment as well, instead of putting them in 2nd century A.D. armor as a lot of productions tend to do, so at least in that department there seem to have been a few people involved actually knowing what they do.
making her a boss b*tch made me puke out my eyes
i wish we wouldnt rewrite female leaders to fit our fantasy
@@Mr.HeisenbergTheCook Right on. Looks like I'm the dummy here. I appreciate the information!
11:20 Either I’m crazy or I know there is no way on Earth that the lady in the back left is wearing a hairstyle that you would see anywhere in Egypt, let alone Earth… Ok, maybe one of the producers might wear that hairstyle, but it’s not like I’d know.
lol didn't see that till your comment, it's hilarious. Reminds me of some kind of Stargate energy device.
Lice was a big issue in Egypt at the time hence why most of their statues are bald which makes the whole thing even more ridiculous.
😂 let alone on earth 😅
Scholars generally identify Cleopatra as having been essentially of Greek ancestry with some Persian and Sogdian Iranian ancestry, based on the fact that her Macedonian Greek family (the Ptolemaic dynasty) had intermarried with the Seleucid dynasty.
Cleopatra and her family can't be black figures because they were Greeks. The Ptolemies, originated in the Greek Kingdom of Macedonia (Alexander the Great). Κλεοπάτρα was just the last member of a Greek Dynasty that ruled Egypt, as other Greek Dynasties ruled Asian Kingdoms in the same period (Bactria, Seleucid Empire, Indo-Greek Kingdom etc).
{Greek/Hellenistic period of Central Asia and North Africa}.
The Egyptians weren’t Black either !!
@@dr.banoub9233
of course, they were not. They were some black Egyptians but this doesn;t make the entire Egyptian civilization a black African civilization.
Egypt was always an intercontinental country. Closer to the Levant than the rest African body thus they had Levantine characteristics.
We the Greeks, as Mediterranean neighbors of Egypt with shared Historical chapters with them know very well that the Egyptians are not sub Saharian figures.
@@mariosathens1
There’s no such thing as there ever being any “Black Egyptians”. Copts and their pharaonic Egyptian ancestors are an endogamous people, just like Greeks are endogamous. Any sub-Saharan living in ancient Egypt would have been Nubian, and probably slaves or turncoats like the Nubian police force known as the Medjai.
@@dr.banoub9233 yes, when i said about some "black Egyptians" i meant the Nubians.
I am aware that the fairytale about "black Egyptians" started from the Afro-Americans and spread via social media. It has nothing to do with historical facts but with a black supremacist movement that blackwashes everything in its path.
@@IntroducingMrLucci
Go ahead, convince yourself of that. It’s called therapeutic mythology. BTW, in 2023 we have DNA, which is king, and forensic science never lies, unlike Hotep fuckery!
Do they get anything right in this documentary, she wasn’t even beautiful. She was Greek, average looking and just used by men. They make her out to be in total control and like a goddess in this show.
Jada Stink-it-Smith.
Jada "Two in the Pinkett, One in the Stinkett" Smith.
Yeah, those experts had me roaring with laughter throughout the entire show. They weren't really actual scholars or researchers, they were Feminist researchers or Black Studies researchers, which means they didn't do much research. And that's also why they were so surprised to find out how royal succession works, and all the other facts that they apparently think they were the first ones to uncover.
If Jada Smith is going to make Cleopatra in an image of who she thinks a powerful woman is, then she should have had Cleopatra cheat on her husband with her son’s best friend, and then make her husband feel bad about it in a public interview 🤣
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
The best review of this Netflix disaster series, as he enumerates it’s lies beyond lies mixed with more lies & covered in lies & then entrenched with even more lies.
My grandmother told me, "I don't care what they teach you in school, YOU ARE CLEOPATRA." That's how I identify, so I'm suing Netflix.
Netflix made crappy woke propaganda and tried to pass it off as a documentary. Shameful.
Jada PinkSmith does not know history. does not know what Africa is, does not know how Ethnicity works and how genealogy works... How was she ever trusted with this in hand, that is beyond me.
Probably something to do with Will Smith being once so popular.
"We Wuz Kangs" never gets old
As an Egyptian, I want to say to any African American, go to Google and type this phrase (the geographic nature of Egypt), you will find that Egypt is a country, the majority of which is located in Asia, and the rest is in Africa, the Mediterranean basin. Philosophers of the ancient world came to Egypt, and we Egyptians have become this geographic nature in Everything and I am not responsible for the psychological problems and feelings of racial inferiority that the African American suffers from
The problem seems to be from 1 faction
from W of W Africa. who claim famous high profile Egypt history, ignore own +
E of W Africa,,Central,, E,,S regions of
Africa)'s other histories..But W Africans mostly from Niger Congo language family, are not their Nubian + etc..NileSahara. heros..To get access
to Egypt history,.they place selves +"all
other Africans in 1 skin,color race =
1 culture = 1 politics..copied from white racism,, idea, =.1 generic Black African
group.
You say that Egypt is more in Asia than in Africa?
@@kristianstorgaard9309 Go to Google and record this phrase: the geography of Egypt and the Egyptian part in Africa are residents of the Mediterranean basin, Libyans, Tunisians, Algerians, Moroccans, and Egyptians are residents of the Mediterranean basin, not blacks
@@Mrsheref Ahhh the people of Egypt and not the landmass :D Now i get it..
black people are not racially inferior there's really no superior race on earth sometimes its geography and past mistakes and world history and other factors that shaped who we all are. We are all humans and it's a shame we can't learn from history and move on to a better future. I want things to get better not worse, don't you?
_"We choose (our) truth, _*_OVER FACTS !"_*
_"End of quote, repeat the line"_
...Justice for Jussie! 🎈👴💤
Calling her Clinikwa is such a righteous jab back at Jada Smith and the whole crew behind this show, I love it.
I'm astonished you didn't lose your sanity through watching one of the episodes, let alone the rest
Yes, let's have a docu series with a black Hitler.
He prepped by watching television commercials for ten hours.
12:25 sounds like an unintentional self-own, saying that only the BLACK Egyptians were inbreds, rather it being a thing plenty of royal families all over the world did.
The ancient Egyptians were not black either..
KEEP MY WIFE'S NAME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH!!!!!!
No Will Smith you need to keep your wife's p*nis out of your mouth. Cuz they ain't no way that you're the man in this relationship.
Well she has most other guys in her mouth.
Hahahaha
4:33 I'm sorry, WHAT! Genghis Khan? Who the hell is saying that, there's countless images of the guy, he was the leader of the Mongols who are from Mongolian which is miles away from Africa, and Khan himself was specifically from a part of Monglia known as the Steppes.
How drunk on whatever are these people
Steppes*
@@grandarkfang_1482 Okay so I was a little wrong on how it's spelled but you get the idea.
They're flyin' high on a lil home-grown drug we call "ego", with a side of "racially-driven hivemind animosity", and let's not forget "faux-victimization" for their dessert
@grandarkfang3537 sir or ma'am, I'm here to remind you that the GrammarNazi legion was disbanded well over a decade ago and none have ever been loved or respected... it is not a role worthy of anyone who has even the slightest hint of decency, much less of compassion or intelligence
just sayin' 🤡
Yeah I remember the time when gangis Khan conquered Africa no way that was a really bad fever dream
Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.
Personally, I would have gone with CleoBlacktra
I don't care what they tell you in school cleopatra was Liz Taylor.
Saying Egyptians are Africans is only correct on a technicality. Egypt is a country in the continent of African. However, there is a noticeable visual difference between native Egyptians and what we know as native Africans
Like when british media refers to afghan and syrian inmigrants as “asians”
Same can be said for every north African country. Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Libya and Egypt are not black countries.
Egregiously missing are the wigs they were notorious for...plus the incest.
Instead of Netflix and these groups appropriating established white characters and peoples/history (referencing Ariel), why don't people actually explore African history? Like the Successes of Malian Empire, Hailie Selassie of Ethiopia, or the explore the folklore such as African Simbi/Mermaids? (instead of changing the original Ariel)
I think the problem is Hollywood and the people who peddle this want to be seen as diverse, without doing actual work to display diverse medias given the proper respect. We also need to not blackwash or depict history inauthentically. Historical accuracy according to records should take precedent. (But this would be an ideal world)
I love how you are using very descriptive and concise words in the English language to describe this travesty. Congratulations, I'm entertained. 😂😂😅
Miss Cleo! She knows your future for $2:99 per minute!
There is so much things in History that Netflix could make content from, that allready fits their ideology (mostly). But they won't.
And this is why they go in hard on chagning up big ips like starwars, trek, lord of the rings etc etc Do that enough and it somehow becomes acceptable to start changing up History
"Cleniqua" , lmao!! New subscriber.
This “documentary” made a lot more people aware of Hoteps and the problem with them at least. There’s that.
“We wuz kangz” no you were d washers who sold their own people and blamed everyone else
7:41 The first thing that came to mind was n-word-patra
Cleopetra didnt identify as egyptian either. She distinctly identified herself as macadonian greek and often flaunted her familial connection to alexander. She distinctly used these to her benefit as upper class romans spoke greek not latin and Caser himself was extremely fascinated by Alexander. Also Cleopetra's ability as a general can be perfectly summed up by this "She ran away when she was in the perfect position to flank Aggrippas fleet at Actium". Which I think she did purposefully because she wanted to play both sides. Truth of the matter is she was at best a footnote in the history of Caeser and Augustus. She is famous because Shakespeare made her famous a thousand year later when he wrote a fake play.
Adrian Goldsworthy said it best: for all her fame as a seductress, symbol of the East, and a strong woman in a male dominated world, Cleopatra was irrelevant in a world dominated by Rome, just another client kingdom that relied on Roman backing to keep her throne just like the other client rulers
down with afrocentrism! just like they want to say that the olmecs were african.
It's only 4 episodes- think about all the work you'll be giving to your future therapist!
Adele James makes Madonna look like an Oscar Best Female Actress for Evita.
Adele James has to take some blame for not standing up for real Egyptian history. Does she have any future as an actress? Probably not.
The only thing they missed was Cleopatra transcending death and being carried into the afterlife, only to come back reincarnated as Jada Smith who is telling us her past life as the narrator.
By the way I loved yoy We Wuz Kangs joke. It was spot on. Keep up the excellent work.
CleoBLACKtra
The great irony is that they want to appropriate cultures of people they hate 🤔
Yes, the hated are usually people that took action with opportunities in life and were successful in some way...
Please start calling the show a
Mockumentary
Kang's casting in the mcu probably had something to do with the fact that a black actor (also called Jonathan funnily enough) voiced him in Avengers: Earth's mightiest heroes. The same thing happened with J'onn J'onzz in Justice League. Carl Lumbly voiced him in that show than after that, it's been mostly black actors playing him.
Next up: Tom Hanks is Malcom X docu.
Will slapped one man Jada slapped an entire country. Truly a match made at a dentist's office.
😂 Why dentist?
@@disturbed1013 why not? Lol.
Will Smith is gonna have a sore hand.
Klenekua aftet the Martin Lawrence show reference had me LMFAO ROTFL 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The stuff on the other queens surely must be equally credible.
Unfortunately yes. What if they were honest with every other documentary save this Cleopatra nonsense? When your credibility is shot it is shot.
7:39 super funny! however I got my own rendition: *Cleosha* 😆🤭 PS. *"Kangs* without a Kingdom"** is what black people say about these racist black supremecists/extremists. We see it as more jealousy than trying to correct any wrongs done to black people because they don't build anything they just COMPLAIN and hate on white people day and night. There's no honor nor real power in that at all, heck, they even attack other black people who understand where they are coming from, but try to reason with them that going to the extreme fabricating history and being hypnotized with hate, is not helping black people at all.
Not a good comparison but imagine someone makes a documentary on Nelson Mandela and cast Hugh Grant because *''No matter what schools might have told us, he was definitely a White man''*
Cleopatra was "G'd up from the feet up"
I am sorry you missed the fourth episode. You would have learned a lot. For instance, Octavian being the first grand wizard of the KKK.
Nah, that was Forrest Gump!
Thank you for addressing the historical racism of Afrocentrisim. So many people are making the mistake if think Black Cleopatra is modern 2023 wokeness...but this Africentrism goes back to the 1960s and is in more of modern Academia than people think
My Granny said me, Martin Luter King was white
I do love when documentaries use Coleen Darnell, who got her bonafides sleeping with her married professor, then got her fame by wandering around Egypt dressed like a 1900’s British colonizer…. Yeah.. well done, Coleen…
She don’t even look how cleopatra looked she was inbreed and was Greek and it’s ridiculous
😂😂😂 I'm dying on your review 😅. This was a bad bootleg from acting to costume were all terrible, first of all who was their makeup artist lol.
What I do not understand is why some black people want to steal Egypt's history and remake it to suit their inferiority complex. I do not have any problem with black people per se. Actually I have many friends who are black. But what those people did in this documentary is totally unethical and unacceptable 😢
Netflix is doing a biopic about John Wayne....Ru Paul is playing the Duke ..... and Donald Trump was Black .
Let me drop a historical fact on you that army that. Cleopatra got were mostly made up of mercenaries. And when Ptolemy went crying to Julius Caesar.
After capturing Pompeii that army crapped bricks so hard because they heard Julius was in town they fled. Leaving her with not much of an army just a ragtag group of people outside of. Egypt in this fighting force was massively outnumbered by. A Roman army legion two of them and also an Egyptian force that was building up. To finally crush Cleopatra and bring her back to Egypt if Cleopatra did not surrender herself. To Caesar and beg for his protection she would have been soundly defeated.
But fortunately for her Caesar took her in because Ptolemy messed-up messily because he was a ten-year-old. Boy being advised by corrupt politicians and they killed.
Pompeii why was Caesar mad that they killed him well one he was a Roman citizen. Into he was Caesars best friend and three he wanted to parade. Pompeii's defeat to the Roman people now he can't do that.
And the fourth reason Pompeii was a Roman Consul pretty big deal. He wanted his transition to dictator as smooth as possible.
With his death it made Caesar look bad and he had to really clean up his image. So he was massively pissed off at Ptolemy for setting him back politically.
In a fifth reason Pompeii married JULIUS CAESAR'S DAUGHTER THEY HAD NO CHILDREN BUT HE WAS. STILL A BROTHER-IN-LAW A FAMILY TO JULIUS CAESAR !!!!!! And also his daughter died while they were married.
So given those list of reasons why wouldn't you be pissed off that some 10 year old brat. Killed your brother-in-law / political rivals/best friend.
Cleopatra was supposed to marry her brother to rule with him but she was the one who didn't want to share the rule...
the notion that Egypt was black is propelled by the wrong fact that modern north Africans are ethnically from the peninsula and they got colonized. but in fact north Africans assimilated (like every other Arab) to the Arabic culture and developed the culture we know now that IS a continuation of our ancient culture. it's very conspicuous if you dig deep in our culture
The daughter of Cleopatra and Marcus Antoinus is buried in North Africa in a gigantic mausoleum. She was Queen of the Moors with her husband King Juba 2
Yes, her name was Cleopatra Selene II.
Ces cons s'en battent les couilles. La fille de Cléopâtre est enterrée en Algérie, elle a a règné en Maurétanie et ça n'a pas l'air de percuter.
Ils pleurent maintenant, mais n'ont jamais rien remarqué quand c'est les maghrébins qui sont systématiquement dépeints comme des khels dans les films et series historiques. Alors que c'est la même idéologie qui pousse derrière.
Même pour l'Égypte ils sont prêts à accepter la version des khels.
Mais comme Cléopâtre était macédonienne, là ils ont réagi.
Il fait aussi faire comprendre que fiction ou pas, c'est un crime, car ça va toujours dans le sens afrocentriste.
Il faut continuer à lutter pour les empêcher de s'approprier notre histoire, notre place éminente dans la marche de la civilisation et nos mérites militaires.
Et surtout laissez pas traîner les soeurs avec ces crevards.
Lesson #1: Do not tramp/steal other peoples culture.
Why would Roman soldiers in a hotel country like Egypt wear trousers, when they never wore them anywhere else?
The main source of this dumpster fire: a grandma.
Jada let’s us in on her thinking of how she views men and jada is no queen I want
They picked those who agreed rather than those with knowledge. Excellent way to be wrong
As a lifelong equestrian, I can also say the actress (and other actors) in the series are awful riders. Most have no balance, no sync with their horses, and are bouncing too much. Poor horses!!!
"Cleopatra was black"¹
1. Grandmama, My. Interview, Back in the day or whatever.
Cleoblacktra.
I been calling her “Cleojada” but kudos to you. 😂👌
I'm a scholar too, I swear!
''Racist" is a very correct word for this ''documentary'' I would say it's a ''racist paranoia'' and can become very dangerous in a long term, let aside it's correctness.
I haven’t watched it, but…
I do think much of the bad acting can actually be attributed to poor direction rather than poor acting.
Remember that actors are servants to the script and the direction. If either one is bad, it will be a poor performance no matter what the actor does.
working in the film industry, this is somewhat true but you can also believe that sometimes even with a decent direction, you will have bad acting... Some actors are just bad. Sadly.
932 likes and counting! Get ready to watch the next episode lol
Great video brother! 🎉🎉
"Queen Cleopatra is Bad: - lol, don't hold your feelings in. ;)
Oh and also. This is another important detail which this false racist documentary "overlooked": the ancient Egyptians used to shave their head because of lice while lice does not like to jump or feeling joly in kinky or coily hair. None of the Egyptian mummies in fact do not have or show "Afros" or kinky hair, except Maiherpri, a southern Kushite. He was a fanbearer and trusted by thutmose IV.. I have to say further too that the ssAfrican admix is a recent introduction into this part of Africa and the result of the trans Saharan slave trade. "Black" sub saharan African never could travel north, see the Bantu expansion-migration. So while I cheer your effort to call the racists out, this other important detail need to be corrected. It was after the Islamic conquest that North Africand(Berbers) and Arabs who went south, to cross the worlds deadliest and hottest natural barriere, to buy slaves, which they bought from local ethnic ot tribal groups, who were at war with other ssAfrican tribal groups. So "black" slave traders(Mansa Musa of the Mali empire is from an era after the Islamic conquest. He traded with Arab merchants in west Africa) never reached north Africa with slaves, the slaves were mostly bought in ssAfrica and transported toward the MENA region. Before that or during the Roman era, the only ssAfrican known to them would be the "Nubians" or both upper and lower Kushites. Definately not Bantu people or west/central Africans.
I enjoyed ever minute of the video 😌👏🏼