REVIEW for Empire of Silence - Brilliantly Written Beginning!

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  • @brentasmith
    @brentasmith ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love seeing people find and fall in love with this series. The books just get better.

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว

      I can feel the pull from Lesser Devil starting upon me already!

  • @GrapplingBook
    @GrapplingBook ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My favorite new booktube channel

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow. Thanks so much. Very kind of you.

  • @Izzyzilreads
    @Izzyzilreads ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I adore this book, the prose, worldbuilding and Hardrian as a character are excellent

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just about to head back in with Lesser Devil and I am so ready!

  • @MacScarfield
    @MacScarfield 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Here are all the references I caught in «Empire of Silence» (apologies for being late, already well into «Howling Dark»!😅):
    Jadd: The Jaddite Faith from several Guy Gavriel Kay novels (GGK’s mix of Christian Trappings and the Sun Cults from Antiquity: Unsurprising given Ruocchio have stated himself as a fan of GGK, with signed books by him) & Jeddah, an Ancient Port City in Modern Day Saudi Arabia
    Birth Vats for the Nobility: The Alphas from «Brave New World» by Aldous Huxley
    Hadrian’s home planet of Delos: Greek Island, Holy Site for the worship of Apollo and Artemis and the Athenian-led Delian League which fought Sparta in the Peloponnesian War of the 5th Century BC + The Name of the Mega-Corporation running the parks in «Westworld»
    Hadrian’s brother Crispin: The St. Crispin’s Day Speech from «Henry V»
    The Alien Antagonists, the Cielcin: Ciel (French: «Sky») + sin (Mr. Ruocchio might be Catholic, alright! 😄)
    Lothrian: Have some similar language structure as the Free City of Lorath from GRRM’s «ASOIAF» + Lotharingia/Lorraine in Modern Day France
    Hadrian’s family name Marlowe and their Devil Symbol: Christopher Marlowe wrote «Doctor Faustus», about the eponymous scholar who make a pact with the devil Mephistopheles (+ a reversed color scheme of the Manchester United Devil Logo, given the Marlowes’ English Ancestry?)
    The Mother of Hadrian’s Family Name, Kephalos: Cephalus, whom Socrates have a dialogue with in Plato’s «Republic». Cephalus give as a definition of justice «to give each what is owed to them», which Socrates refutes by saying that returning a borrowed knife to someone who has turned mad and might therefore hurt themselves, is not just…(cue philosophizing on justice and madness!😅)
    Carcassoni: The Southern French City of Carcassonne, famous Cathar Stronghold during the 13th Century Albigensian Crusade (+The City of Carcosa from the Lovecraft Mythos)
    Eusebia: Feminine variant of Eusebius (Eusebius of Caesarea, who is credited for converting Roman Emperor Constantine the Great to Christianity)
    EOS: Now «Xenobite» is literally just Greek for something to akin to «Foreign Lifeform», but I can not help but think that it have also become future slang for «scary alien», born from a fusion of the Cenobites from the «Hellraiser» Franchise & the Xenomorphs from the «Alien» Franchise! 😆
    The Colosseum of Meidua, the Dome of Bright Carvings, reference the Bright Carvers from «Gormenghast» & Bright Weavings (GGK’s webpage), and the unfair Gladiatorial Batte Reenactments are similar to both historical examples as well as the ones in «Gladiator».
    The hoodlum on a motorcycle (using petrol!) attacking Hadrian with a lead pipe is straight out of the anime/manga «Akira»! 😄
    Montante: Another name for a Zweihander sword
    Vilicus: Latin for «supervisor»
    House Orin: Orin is the name of the Main Character in the 80s animated Sci-Fantasy Movie «Starchasers», a character in David Foster Wallace’s «Infinite Jest», and Aquaman’s treacherous half-brother, and their conflict with Hadrian’s Father is not unlike the destruction of House Reyne by Tywin Lannister from George RR Martins «A Somg of Ice & Fire» (made famous by the song «The Rains of Castamere»).
    The Isle of Karch: Karch is a Nation in GGK’s «Jad-verse»
    Royse Field: Rolls-Royce?
    The Star of Gododdin, comes from «Y Gododdin», a Medieval Welsh Poem about the Heroes of the «Old North» Brythonic Kingdom of Gododdin, lost to the Anglo Saxon Conquest of England
    Lictors: The Public Bodyguard of Roman Elected Officals
    Logothetes: Greek «Bureaucrat»
    The Festival of Boedromion: Ancient Athenian Summer Festival in honor of Apollo aiding Athens in wars
    Anagnost, novices in the Chantry: «Anagnosis» is Greek for «Re-knowledge», so something akin to «re-educated»
    The Space Opera Poster of «Tiada, Princess of Thrax»: Verdi’s «Aida», the Thracian Slave Rebellion Leader Spartacus and Edgar Rice Burroughs’ John Carter of Mars/«Princess of Mars»
    The Spaceship Eurynasir: Eury is Greek «wide», and nasir is Arabic for «(male) helper»
    Saltus reminded me of the Epsilions of «Brave New World» mixed with some «Blade Runner» and Hadrian’s revulsion towards the «Natural Born» Gilliam is akin to the revulsion most in the «World Stats» has against John the Savage in «Brave New World»
    The Planet of Emesh: The Sumerian God of vegetation and summer, but also Emesa (an Ancient Syrian City famous for it’s Sun God venerated by Emperor Aurelian and the Priest-King family which married into the Roman Severian Imperial Dynasty, producing infamous Emperors such as Elagabalus and Caracalla), the Emishi of Japan («Barbarians»/native population displaced by/assimilated into the Japanese: Prince Ashitaka in the animated Fatasy Movie «Princess Mononoke» is one!) and Emese (Mythical Scythian Ancestral Mother of the Hungarian Royal Line)
    Planet with Two moons, similar to many of GGK’s worlds!
    Lucas Skye: Luke Skywalker! 😄
    Umandh: h-uman(i)d? U(n)man?
    Sulis: Celtic Diety worshiped at the Roman Thermic Baths at Bath, England
    The Cousland Drakes PMC: Cousland is a Noble Family in the Fantasy Video Game «Dragon Age»! 😄
    The Arch-Builders of Ozymandias: The Famous Poem «Ozymandias» by Percy Shelly, «Look at my works, ye mighty, and despair!»😄
    The Continent of Anshar: A Primordial Mesopotamian God, «The Whole Sky», King of the Gods before replaced by his son Marduk
    Aldia Di Otranto, the High Prince of Jadd: «The Castle of Otranto» by Horace Walpole, the first Gothic Novel!
    Alcaz du Badr: Arabic for «The Alcazar («Castle») of the Full Moon»
    Sign of the Sun Disk: GGK’s «Jad-verse»! 😄
    Danu: Scythian for «river» (found in the name of several European Rivers, such as the Danube and Don Rivers), Reconstructed Indo-European Water Goddess from the Hindu Primeval Water Goddess and the Reconstructed Mother Goddess of the Tuatha De Danann of Irish Myth
    Pallino: Italian for «Bullet»/«Little Ball»
    Luin: The Luin of Celtchar, a legendary spear/lance in Irish Myth, «Blue» in Tolkien’s Sindarin (as in the Blue Wizards, «Ithryn Luin»)
    Mandyas: Greek «Mantle», kape used by Orthodox Monastics and Crusader Knights
    Olorin: Gandalf’s Quenya Name! 😄
    The Sepulchre: A Cavern Tomb, as in the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wow now that is a list! I love it

    • @MacScarfield
      @MacScarfield 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Talking_Story Another thing I find interesting is his combination of cultures: The Empire being primarily British/European and Indian, reflecting how India has been shaped by the British Empire and how people of Indian/Pakistani descent are now a common feature jn Britain and Europe (interestingly the Chinese and Japanese, the Mandari and the Nipponese respectively, are still seen as separate entities/factions within the Empire🤔), the Jaddians are Middle Eastern and Southern European, reflecting how the Mediterranean Sea has been a place of much cultural exchange, and the Tavrosi being a mix of Nordic/Slavic and South East Asian almost made me laugh and wonder if Ruocchio has some Scandinavian connections, as here in Norway immigration of and intermarriage with Eastern Europeans (especially from Poland, the Baltics and most notably Ukraine lately) and South East Asians (especially Thai and Filipinos) is a quite regular feature! 😄

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MacScarfield he has it all thought out that is for sure. Seems as if every angle has been thought about. Nothing slaps dash about the building of this empire. IMO

  • @stephen7489
    @stephen7489 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don’t often comment, but your content is fantastic and your passion for the material is infectious.
    I’ll certainly be adding this to my TBR, keep up the great work!

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow, thanks so much! Your kind words mean the world to me. I will keep it coming as I am having to much fun to stop.

  • @MCBGamer
    @MCBGamer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This book was so insanely good it is one of two books I am hunting for a hardcover on now.

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว

      Those are tough to find. Good Luck!

    • @MCBGamer
      @MCBGamer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Talking_Story It's been rough. I hear a new edition is dropping soon through and paperbacks are reprinting end of the month.

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MCBGamer wish I would have gotten in on that kickstarter

  • @someokiedude9549
    @someokiedude9549 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I haven't read this book, though I have a friend of mine who didn't really care for it, but he said that he enjoyed the ending enough to read the second one, much to my bafflement. But I must say I am impressed with your knowledge of myth and lore, I also enjoyed hearing you talk about your theater experience. This is one of those series that I've been hesitant one, but I enjoyed your review a lot. Keep it up!

    • @BooksRebound
      @BooksRebound ปีที่แล้ว

      Pick it up! Try it

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is well worth a try I think if you go in expecting a more cerebral journey opposed to an action packed thrill ride in space. Thanks as always Britton.

  • @heidi6281
    @heidi6281 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    John go ahead and put a post note on the last few pages of chapter 34 in Howling Dark, there a profound statement of the function of Art at the end of that chapter!

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh I have a whole stack of post it ready to go for these!

    • @heidi6281
      @heidi6281 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hearing your reading about the prose about “story” was fantastic, I missed that moment..when listening to Suneater while putting away the dishes maybe was a bad idea…his audiobook should be savored for long walks only.

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh I can only imagine. Attention is a must on this 1@@heidi6281

  • @readbykyle3082
    @readbykyle3082 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent review! I just reread this one and I still find it a little disjointed and plodding with pacing, but the character, dialogue, worldbuilding, themes....all excellent. The rest of the series is absolutely incredible!

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. I am excited to get back to it.

  • @tgibridays
    @tgibridays ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review, John. You're definitely a smarter cat than I. I get the feeling the more read/knowledgeable you are the more you'll get out of these books. Like I don't know anything about Siddhartha.
    The next two novels are two of my favorites. They're truly special in my opinion.

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am excited to get to them. I really want to see him grow as a writer as the series goes on. Thanks so much for the kind words as always.

  • @carlosbranca8080
    @carlosbranca8080 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm interested in CR novels but am a little scared of the size of the series, i like my reading very diverse and committing to seven huge books is difficult for me. I just bought the first 4 Books of the New Sun which are Ruochio's favorite and primary influence i think. That's my december reading. Great video.

    • @thatsci-firogue
      @thatsci-firogue ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've never read anything like Book of The New Sun. Enjoy!

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hit me up with your thoughts on New Sun. It is kinda mind bending as well.

    • @thatsci-firogue
      @thatsci-firogue ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Talking_Story only kinda? 🤣

  • @TonyTheJabroni
    @TonyTheJabroni ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, John, I just found your channel from your talk with Mike and couldn't subscribe fast enough. Love your energy, passion, and presentation. This review was absolutely phenomenal in its depth and editing. I'm about halfway through Empire of Silence and love it so far. It definitely deserves the praise it is finally getting.

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome to have you on board. I have got the next book set aside for January. I think this series could be special for me. Mike has not led me astray yet. Thanks so much for checking out the channel and subscribing!

  • @Avzigoyhbasilsikos
    @Avzigoyhbasilsikos ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this
    Next book might feel slower but the writing and impact is way better with one of the best ending segments in sci-fi/fanatsy

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have Lesser Devil set up for January. Excited to continue. If you love this series as I am growing to I have a channel announcement coming on the weekly round up Sunday you may wanna check out. Thanks for the kind words.

  • @nmal8702
    @nmal8702 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed every bit of this review ❤️ I’m so glad it’s finally getting the attention it deserves. It’ll just keep getting better and better so you’re in for a treat my friend! Favorite series of all time right here. Your review got me excited to start my reread of this masterpiece. Love the new backdrop btw!

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much! I am picking up Lesser Devil tomorrow and I can't wait to get back into it.

  • @BrianBell7
    @BrianBell7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    glad we are on the same track with this series! I'm starting Howling Dark next week :) I think same with Christopher Navo. Also you are a smart cat. All the other smart cats at CAT MENSA agree.

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว

      Well I am not gonna argue with CAT MENSA 🤣

  • @sharihoutman
    @sharihoutman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm so glad you enjoyed it. I knew you would. I gave it a 4.5 so we were close. The novella you're about to begin is from Hadrian's brother's POV and the pace is much faster. I'll be starting the 2nd novel as soon as I finish the Expanse (probably next month). So, I'll get to see if your predictions are correct.

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have Lesser Devil on my January stack I think.

  • @esmayrosalyne
    @esmayrosalyne ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such a good and nuanced review, this was actually super helpful in knowing what to expect when I will finally dip my toes in myself. So far I've only seen pure gush reviews, so I appreciate hearing you discuss some things that worked a little less for you (while still showing how incredibly impressed you are with the book overall) 😄
    Also, thanks for sharing that passage... absolutely knocked my socks off!!
    Can't wait to start this series next year. I hope the sequels live up to your expectations. From all I've heard, there are MAJOR timejumps between the books, but it seems like Ruocchio pulled them off so I am cautiously optimistic! Great review 🤩

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much for that Esmay. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts when you dive in.

  • @hobbitholebooks832
    @hobbitholebooks832 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic review! I cannot wait for my diamond edition to arrive next year. I'm fascinated by your discussion of philosophy and your history with theatre, would love to hear more!

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much for those kinds words. I am so upset I missed out on that Kickstarter now.

  • @X-FAct0R
    @X-FAct0R ปีที่แล้ว

    How did i miss the release of this review? I'd been waiting for you to get to it. So happy you loved.... You're in for a treat.

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว

      Lesser Gods coming in January and tune in this Sunday for an announcement you may want to catch.

    • @X-FAct0R
      @X-FAct0R ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Talking_Story oohhh the almighty tease. I'll be on the look out.😊

  • @ryanskeff
    @ryanskeff ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you read the passage I pulled out my dictionary and hoped you'd give him 1.25 stars! Hahaha. I also think you can have a 5/5 rating in your heart even if the rubric isn't aligned.

  • @thatsci-firogue
    @thatsci-firogue ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review John. Though you and I had very different experiences. Mine was just "its fine" haha

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahh thanks for the kind words. 😂

  • @bardsandbooks
    @bardsandbooks ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been wanting to get to this and boy, am I eager now!

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You must let me know your thoughts when you get there my friend!

  • @curtjarrell9710
    @curtjarrell9710 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi John. This is on my TBR. I'm still not sure I'll like it, but a copy is waiting in the wings while I enjoy other books at this time.

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let me know what your thoughts are when you get there.

  • @BooksWithBenghisKahn
    @BooksWithBenghisKahn ปีที่แล้ว

    Woooooooooooo!!! Great review, and you’re in for the journey of a lifetime with the sequels.

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว

      I am all in to see where this writer goes with this series!

  • @benjaminb4407
    @benjaminb4407 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd be very interested in your thoughts on the later books. 2-6 are all a lot more plot focused.

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว

      Book 2 is coming up for me in March and I will for sure be covering it.

  • @pattic6077
    @pattic6077 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was thinking of trying one of the Johnathon Mahberry books but couldn’t remember which you recommended.

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sword and sorcery, techno thriller or horror?

  • @BookishChas
    @BookishChas ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy day after thanksgiving John! This was an amazing review, and I can’t wait to start this series.

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can't wait to hear your thought brother.

  • @pappywinky4749
    @pappywinky4749 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you like thought-provoking scifi check out The Stars my Destination by Alfred Bester. Especially considering the publication date. That book changed the game.

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have read that but it has been many years ago. I agree game changer.

  • @sherribugd3799
    @sherribugd3799 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got this book in the mail!!

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome! Can't wait to hear your thoughts!

  • @MidnightChronicler
    @MidnightChronicler ปีที่แล้ว

    Cannot wait to check this out

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can’t wait to hear your thoughts

  • @Khatoon170
    @Khatoon170 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy thanksgiving mr John . Thank you for your wonderful cultural channel. I gathered main theme of book you mentioned and author biography briefly here it’s empire of silence plot summary it’s series take place 20, 000 years in far future, when humanity has moved out into stars creating Sollan empire , ruled according to strict clad system , hard marowes is protagonist of saga and at very start of novel , written as hardian memoir , we learn that to remove menace . This novel also known as ( sun eaters ) it’s rich tapstry of future history and world building, galactic sized story of hero , tyrant but portrayed as man . The novel is Kevin j Anderson and New York best selling author author of dark between stars . Empire of silence packs I’m action and erudition in equal measure. It’s included seven main novels but it original five but rising paper costs forced final two books . Main character madrian marrlowe man revered as hero and despised as murder , chronicles his tale in galaxy - spanning debut of sun eater . Series , merging best of space opera and epic fantasy, it was not his war . Galaxy remembers him ad hero , man who burned every last alien from sky . Christopher ruocchio is American space opera and fantasy writer , assistant editor at bean books . He is best known for sun eater series , first of which earned him 2019 manly made well man award and second book in series howls dark was nominated for 202dragon award . He has co edited four genres anthologies and authored Thor story for avengers 70 . I hope you like my research. Many happy returns. Best wishes for you your dearest ones .

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว

      Your research looks great as always my friend!

  • @heidi6281
    @heidi6281 ปีที่แล้ว

    John, if you get a chance check out Benghis’s latest video in audiobook narrators top 5 so you can hear for yourself the giants, Keeble & Roukin!! I know you do not do audio.🤪

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว

      I will check it out don't do audio but I am a fan of Ben's channel. I am gonna try some audio coming up cause I have a long drive so.....

    • @heidi6281
      @heidi6281 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Talking_StoryOk try not to miss your exit, a great audiobook narrator can create another level of immersion to the story.

  • @pattic6077
    @pattic6077 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Horror!

    • @Talking_Story
      @Talking_Story  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ghost Road Blues starts off the Pine Deep trilogy. He won the Stoker for first novel with that 1. It is a fun trilogy. The most haunted town in America, serial killers it has all you need to scratch that horror itch.