5:56:15 - start of PS5 pro deep dive and Playstation discussion 6:09:45 - about future consoles 6:16:55 - PS4 pro and PS VR 6:20:34 - About current tech 6:28:18 - reiterates PS5 Pro verdict 6:32:16 - Discussion about GTA
Spoiler: If you have $700 to spend on it and you want it for whatever reason, do it. If money’s tight, don’t feel bad, because you’re not missing out on anything really relevant, save your money for the ps6.
I feel like NOBODY should be giving into this scummy practice no matter how much money they have, they're selling you what you should have got for almost double the price.
Everyone in here for PS5 Pro take, and I'm sitting in disbelief they've missed out on arguably the most significant Godzilla film since the very first in 1954. I'm with Kenny. As a parent, it will attack you on that level.
I got the console because I generally play on quality modes. With the push in frames while in quality, I get to keep my standard preference and get better movement with no sacrifices. It literally provides the shine on a brand new car for me. While some might argue its not a good investment now... me playing some of the games I love on the Pro just makes it that much more enjoyable. With my work schedule and backlog... I have plenty of games to play so overall I'm happy with it.
I've seen too many reactionary takes about this console, i dont know why people get so mad about it, it feels like people are coping honestly. It will be the best place to play on console for the next ~4 years until PS6. There already are games running at better than Base Fidelity IQ at double the framerate, thats more than 100% upgrade for a 55% increase in cost. Would people get so defensive of someone buying a GPU upgrade for their PC that gave that kind of improvement? Not to mention the extra 1 TB of SSD.
I dont agree with their take that the PS6 is going to have even less of a difference with PS5. If anything i think the jump has potential to be way bigger if they manage to put really good RT hardware in it and with next versions of PSSR, maybe even some neural rendering. If they manage to make Pathtracing common on next gen then the difference will be huge. They keep asking themselves "how are games going to look even better than this?" Pathtracing, thats the answer. You don't necesarily need better 3d models or assets, having a console strong enough to run these kind of games with Full Pathtracing would be a huge difference.
hmm i agree mostly. i do think you pushed spiderman and horizon aside. spiderman now has 60fps and raytracing on every building...thats pretty significant i'd say. but yeah..rebirth shows biggest improvement.
One reason I got the PS5 Pro is that I wanted to play games at their best version on console and after seeing people die in my life suddenly over the last decade I don’t want to waste time doing what I enjoy. The console is more than worth it for current and old games that had frame/resolution/anti-aliasing issues.
am I the only one that was happy with how rebirth looked on ps5? I didnt have any graphic/performance issues in my entire playthrough but I also wasnt looking for it
They can't stream games with HDR on. It will make the image completely desaturated for us and blind us. If they were playing games outside of streaming they might turn HDR on.
Yeah, its understandable since they are streaming but its a shame about the HFR modes specially, they are leaving a bunch of performance on the table. So games with those modes not only can look better than base, they can run better at the same time. They did not get to see that sadly.
@@WhiteWolf-d2vby several years you mean about 4 years because that's what'll happen knowing sony. The argument that ps6 isn't necessary when ps5 pro hasn't been squeezed out of performance doesn't apply anymore because ps5 didn't get squeezed either but here we are with a pro version.
Can you all stop mentioning the PS6 this is supposed to be about the PS5 pro the ps6 is not coming out for a couple more years its tech that doesn't exist every time you mention it you just sound dumb
Refresh system does not NEEDS and exclusive game. Like that is not the point of the system. Ps4 Pro did not have game exclusive to the system all it did was announced a new game that was coming out around it release window that was still playable on the original hardware all it did was look better. Remember when 3DS tried that with the New 3DS people were not happy that a refresh system was having exclusive game to it. Should there been a new game coming out during around it release window, sure. Was it going to be exclusive. Yeah no. They still cater to the fucking PS4 install base why the hell you think they do something like make an exclusive game to force people to get the system? Lmao
Then complaining about red dead horses shows me they never actually played the game 😂😂😂😂 no horses don’t starve to death you only feed them to heal or buff
6:03:52 just to call out the Kenny comment a bit, just because games are cross-platform doesn’t mean there are “no PS5 games” or whatever… 🙄 Like me saying there are no 4090 games. Games scale and you can run high spec gpu games on a PS4 Pro equivalent hardware if the res and performance is scaled back enough. I always see it as a weird argument just because a game is on a PS4.
Max talking about GoW Combat and Spider-Man is always cringe as hes not the best at those games. You do a lot new things in Ragnarok especially after Valaha.
You do and it's definitely an improvement over 2018 but it's still not as good as it could be because of some design decisions. Like the new shields for instance that are supposed to make it fresh are all just worse than the basic bitch ass shield because the game was designed with that first in mind. It's the whole dmc5 nero problem where his breakable arms are like an after thought on the core game and just suck as a result.
Yeah it definitely depends if you like the combat me personally i can never go back to Spider-Man 1 not only is the combat improved in 2 but also the swinging
5:56:15 - start of PS5 pro deep dive and Playstation discussion
6:09:45 - about future consoles
6:16:55 - PS4 pro and PS VR
6:20:34 - About current tech
6:28:18 - reiterates PS5 Pro verdict
6:32:16 - Discussion about GTA
thank you!
1:48:47 his PS5 verdict
Thanks
True hero.
Thank you for posting the time stamps!
THANK YOU
Spoiler: If you have $700 to spend on it and you want it for whatever reason, do it. If money’s tight, don’t feel bad, because you’re not missing out on anything really relevant, save your money for the ps6.
Not missing out is pretty subjective if you ask me. Let’s just agree on “if you can afford it then get one”, and best to leave things there probably.
I agree with your statement@@vincevirtua
Absolutely agree. PS6 is soon-ish, why throw money away on marginal cosmetic improvements, whether you have the money or not?
You sounded like a ok guy until the end.
I feel like NOBODY should be giving into this scummy practice no matter how much money they have, they're selling you what you should have got for almost double the price.
7:39:10 Simmons getting married 🎉🎉
Thank you. Only important part.
It felt like simmons was married already and this just a formality
Everyone in here for PS5 Pro take, and I'm sitting in disbelief they've missed out on arguably the most significant Godzilla film since the very first in 1954. I'm with Kenny. As a parent, it will attack you on that level.
As a vod watcher having streams on yt is a game changer, it is so much better.
I got the console because I generally play on quality modes. With the push in frames while in quality, I get to keep my standard preference and get better movement with no sacrifices. It literally provides the shine on a brand new car for me. While some might argue its not a good investment now... me playing some of the games I love on the Pro just makes it that much more enjoyable. With my work schedule and backlog... I have plenty of games to play so overall I'm happy with it.
VODS on TH-cam got me going. Way better.
I've seen too many reactionary takes about this console, i dont know why people get so mad about it, it feels like people are coping honestly. It will be the best place to play on console for the next ~4 years until PS6. There already are games running at better than Base Fidelity IQ at double the framerate, thats more than 100% upgrade for a 55% increase in cost. Would people get so defensive of someone buying a GPU upgrade for their PC that gave that kind of improvement? Not to mention the extra 1 TB of SSD.
I dont agree with their take that the PS6 is going to have even less of a difference with PS5. If anything i think the jump has potential to be way bigger if they manage to put really good RT hardware in it and with next versions of PSSR, maybe even some neural rendering. If they manage to make Pathtracing common on next gen then the difference will be huge.
They keep asking themselves "how are games going to look even better than this?" Pathtracing, thats the answer. You don't necesarily need better 3d models or assets, having a console strong enough to run these kind of games with Full Pathtracing would be a huge difference.
hmm i agree mostly. i do think you pushed spiderman and horizon aside. spiderman now has 60fps and raytracing on every building...thats pretty significant i'd say. but yeah..rebirth shows biggest improvement.
PS5 is pure love...and remember, Play has no limits. They will charge $$$$ for da PS6, be prepared. Bush bye.
the next generation of console will be the golden age
I agree with the doods. Frame Rate, Resolution and sharpness is better. But many games are all remasters or remakes. Rarely any original PS5 IP games.
One reason I got the PS5 Pro is that I wanted to play games at their best version on console and after seeing people die in my life suddenly over the last decade I don’t want to waste time doing what I enjoy. The console is more than worth it for current and old games that had frame/resolution/anti-aliasing issues.
Why aren’t some of the Pro Enhanced games defaulting on the Pro Enhanced video modes? Stellar Blade etc. Isn’t that weird?
Of course it’s worth the $700. A PC with that power and SSD storage and speed would be over $1000 easy.
This might also be a Monster Hunter Wilds Box lol.
When will fighting games update. I’m loving pro so far.
Love my PS5 Digital Edition - no need to update yet! 🎉
Base Ps6 - 1000 EUR
Ps6 pro - 1500 EUR
leave it to Max to see the nuance of the PS5 Pro. W Stream guys
am I the only one that was happy with how rebirth looked on ps5? I didnt have any graphic/performance issues in my entire playthrough but I also wasnt looking for it
It's kind of killing me that they are playing games like Stellar Blade with HDR and High Frame Rate off. 🤦🏼
They can't stream games with HDR on. It will make the image completely desaturated for us and blind us. If they were playing games outside of streaming they might turn HDR on.
Yeah, its understandable since they are streaming but its a shame about the HFR modes specially, they are leaving a bunch of performance on the table. So games with those modes not only can look better than base, they can run better at the same time. They did not get to see that sadly.
Agreed, Stellar Blade is a game that favors HDR. It already looks phenomenal on my LG C4 though, I'm more into whatever is going on with Rebirth.
Best console ever!
This PS5 Pro is like a Prototype , Test Subject for PS6
PS5 PRO has took 5 Years in the planning, forget ps6 for several years.
takodachi with more than 1 braincell, blasphemy 😲
@@WhiteWolf-d2vby several years you mean about 4 years because that's what'll happen knowing sony. The argument that ps6 isn't necessary when ps5 pro hasn't been squeezed out of performance doesn't apply anymore because ps5 didn't get squeezed either but here we are with a pro version.
16:18 for start
Switch 2 is not going to be as powerful as a PS4 pro or series. That’s not going to happen.
5:58:52
No comment. Just enjoy
Can you all stop mentioning the PS6 this is supposed to be about the PS5 pro the ps6 is not coming out for a couple more years its tech that doesn't exist every time you mention it you just sound dumb
Refresh system does not NEEDS and exclusive game. Like that is not the point of the system. Ps4 Pro did not have game exclusive to the system all it did was announced a new game that was coming out around it release window that was still playable on the original hardware all it did was look better. Remember when 3DS tried that with the New 3DS people were not happy that a refresh system was having exclusive game to it. Should there been a new game coming out during around it release window, sure. Was it going to be exclusive. Yeah no. They still cater to the fucking PS4 install base why the hell you think they do something like make an exclusive game to force people to get the system? Lmao
Then complaining about red dead horses shows me they never actually played the game 😂😂😂😂 no horses don’t starve to death you only feed them to heal or buff
I want ps6 to have backwards compatibility😢
6:03:52 just to call out the Kenny comment a bit, just because games are cross-platform doesn’t mean there are “no PS5 games” or whatever… 🙄 Like me saying there are no 4090 games. Games scale and you can run high spec gpu games on a PS4 Pro equivalent hardware if the res and performance is scaled back enough. I always see it as a weird argument just because a game is on a PS4.
Simmons Horizon skill issue...
Sony in the comments like….
PSSR looks like a oil paint photoshop filter. It's slightly better, not $800 better. I like that it enables 60fps.
The price difference isn't 800 dollars rain man
@@jjboonzaier it depends, genius.
i’d say the ps4 pro upgrade was bigger. 4K and HDR > slightly better resolution / frame boost
PS4 Pro didn’t have (real) 4K
@ you could say the same about ps5 games that are dynamic 4k. i still count it.
I love PlayStation, why wouldn’t I buy it
Max talking about GoW Combat and Spider-Man is always cringe as hes not the best at those games. You do a lot new things in Ragnarok especially after Valaha.
You do and it's definitely an improvement over 2018 but it's still not as good as it could be because of some design decisions. Like the new shields for instance that are supposed to make it fresh are all just worse than the basic bitch ass shield because the game was designed with that first in mind. It's the whole dmc5 nero problem where his breakable arms are like an after thought on the core game and just suck as a result.
Yeah it definitely depends if you like the combat me personally i can never go back to Spider-Man 1 not only is the combat improved in 2 but also the swinging
A lot of brain dead takes you can't tell me especially on a good 4k tv that there is no big difference between 1440p and 4k, the difference is big.
the RDR2 discussion was blasphemy
@@darkknight2864RDR2 is boring tho they ain’t wrong