Is Dull Knife FINALLY BALANCED?!? | Undertale: Last Corridor
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The only problem for now is that Dusttale Sans is just trash against this weapon, cause his level system don't work with that weapon, you need to kill all the phases to level up. I would say that killing phase 2 is enough to a kill for Dust level system
Yes, i cant even get some exp while fighting agaist 3 dull knife users
but this makes sense. In dt, you die and resurrect once anyway. Here, since you have 1 HP left, it is considered that you have never died.
@@CharaTRits a pain in the ass when you’re tryna lvl up a charc but it does make sense in the context of omori ig
Eh, their not a major threat. I used both Waterfall and Waterfall Fell and took on 2 Dull knife users that were competent, still won. Even in Snowdin, you have to account for their weaknesses and dodging their attacks.
Dust sans waterfall needs a buff because even thought its a 3500exp upgrade its trash and the snowdin phase is better than it which makes no sense
stuff not noted here:
- Happy Trick in phase 1 blinds sans
- The toast given to all chara's in Depressed becomes a slice of toast instead of toast on phase 2, and the 15 hp it heals splits based on how many chara's are alive. Just you = 15 hp heal, you and another person = 7.5 hp heal, and all three chara's = 5 hp heal
- SUFFOCATE in Miserable phase 3 is a two press move, you send out the projectile and then activate it, you can see where it'll shoot by the cloud on the ground
- I'm pretty sure all four Red Hands hits will guarantee to hit if you just hit the first one
- If you fight Bonewalker, good luck, because he will change you into the AFRAID emotion, you only do 70 dmg, can't change emotion or use abilities, and you have to use Calm Down to go back to normal but it's random when you change back if you don't you'll get text that goes something like "You tried to Calm Down, but your lungs struggled to breathe", but I think getting hit by certain Bonewalker attacks makes you AFRAID again, so good luck ig
- With CRIPPLE in phase 3, it's more like a melee, you get insane speed for like 1-2 seconds to catch up with sans, then you hit when ur right next to him.
I think that's all
calm down as afraid is actually random so it might take only 1 calm down to relax or 5
@@Xyphos oh thx I'll change it
Suffocate are useless when you fight with sans that in the dark map like battlebox sans skin or hardmode sans etc you literally cant see the cloud which make it impossible to hit
Much as I love it, it's op. The only way it's fragile is if you're always in anger mode. With some skill, I dare say it's the best (non-admin) weapon.
Real knife is way better
@@helladsahelladda5798Real knife got a HITBOX nerf and nerfs in general this literally is a rushing weapon while bone was the best in the right hands bone is op but dull knife literally is the most annoying to deal with 3 phases and makes fun not even fun
real knife is still way better in general lol
@@christopherearth9714 yeah gl with being hated ngl
Nah stick is totally better
I find Dull Knife to be really fun to play. Despite its bulkiness with 210 total HP, you can't rushdown with it without taking severe damage.
You have to strategize how to fight against each target, play passively, THEN strike when you have an opening to deal devastating damage.
9/10 weapon, good job ian
Like any other weapon in the game but without 3 phases and 7473525238584737 different abilities
Ngl they could've just kept it to 1 life and have different emotion stages based on landing abilities
@@omoro1893 that would be actually awesome.
@omoro1893 That's how it was the first time. It was obscenely oppressive. Like, you couldn't fight back, AND they had almost a MINUTE of invincibility that you couldn't do shit about as they drained your Stamina from 150 to 3.
Current Dull Knife is a meta pick, but it's balanced now. Even weapons like Snow Ring and Horror Axe are used more often.
@@christopherearth9714 they had 30 seconds of invincibility and you could decrease their timer faster by attacking them, plus they had heavily decreased walk speed so it wasnt THAT op before. Now this thing has 3 phases and a little bit TOO MUCH different abilities which you can combo and make sans life a literal hell
PS: The knife cutscene happens for everyone, I thought it was only after you’ve already gotten it because I got it very early after it just came out and the cutscene is new
btw, ingame, mana is called juice, though.
It’s still broken as hell
Thing about it it’s so easy to get
Bonewalker negs
dull knife users on their way to explain the fact it loses one matchup means it’s balanced
Does it give a kill for Dust for each phase? Im wondering, because if not, then this is gonna become, like, a hard counter to Dust.
It is a hard dust counter
it dosent give a kill until the dull knife users actually dead
No not until you actually kill them, It gives EXP. the first two deaths / phases of the Dull Knife gives 10 while the last one gives 20
@@chilax_exteriorno it doesnt, u need to kill all phases for 20 exp
@@ncisk5939yes it does, it was changed to also give 10 exp for the first 2 lifes
For those who are stuck in a lobby full of dull knife users, just use outer since his blackhole move can suck them in while they change phases
@@mandy1828outer phase 2 has a blackhole
If I was going to make a dull knife weapon, I'd make it work like killer knife. You start on emotion level 1, and can reach 2 and 3 and their respective abilities through damage. Then make it so it works with souls. And give it the Omori did not succumb with brief invulnerability (like 3 -5 second), but you have 1 hp treatment. And maybe if you reach level 4, you get... a full heal? Nah, maybe a 10 seconds of invulnerability? Idk, maybe not but without that... That'd probably finally make it balanced I think. The problem I see is that they keep trying to "rule of cool" it. Keep giving it too much strength. Unecessary. Though, I be okay with the current version staying as long as phase changes counted as kills for dust. I agree thay it's way too powerful though. I got solo'ed as regular sans by 1 dull knife user, granted the player way pretty good. But still. 1 guy managed to bring me all 3 phases down. Ridiculous.
The dull knife is pretty balanced outside of kill couting, If you make every kill count to dust a bad omori knife could basically end the match for you. I think the best way to handle the dust buff is to make the second and third kill count for his passive.
@@thegalantic6986 oh 100% fair. 3 is too much. I can stomach that I guess.
@@thegalantic6986I think dust only gets the kill after getting all lifes which only counts as one so it isn’t that bad against dust I think
@@thegalantic6986Best way? Remove it
Soloing Sans (with 3 upgrades) isn't that hard though, I think it's fair that they can solo you since you can do that with most weapons (if you are good at the game)
Seeing dull knife make me want to travel back in time and get Bonewalker
They should make that u get 10 exp for every dull phaee, bc I CANT NORMALLY GET EXP, EVERY SERVER I JOIN 3 DULL KNIFE USER
That was added like a day ago
@@ganeju2_879 oh-
Bro don’t check updates fr…
The full knife is actually pretty hard to use. I've killed 3 dull users (all of their phases) with ruins fell
Me:welp time to use the power of STICK!
True I managed to kill 2 dull knife users and a horror axe using kindness
With Maxed LittleTale
Do you can enter the White space in privat server?
nope not balanced op
what's the MTT SONG THAT IS FIRE BREH
I think the most emotional and physical damage ive done is when I landed a perfect blaster circle using aftertale on someone using the final stage of anger on the dull knife
W, i almost did too
If u use at bonewalker you will get scared(this make u not deal too many damage)using calm down have 60% chance of not working if work your emotions will be back
I remember when this 2:48 used to be ulc old lobby theme, you know you can still play old ulc right? Its called "(unreleased update)" now
yeah that played when sans won i remember too
bro forgot bonewalker reaction
Still op as FU-
Nah man, that's ain't hitboxes today, that's ping.
I feel like if a sans beats a phase, they should get exp, also they should be COMPLETELY invincible when going through phase transitions.
Btw when sans defeats phase 1 and 2 they get 10 exp and when they defeat phase 3 they get 20 more exp so yeah
Smartest ulcian
check updates when
6:32 Did not expect to be in the video (Im the one name'd mega)
The issue I have is the total max HP.
Sure, the max HP reduces, but you only get stronger and have an absurd amount of HP in total.
I kinda miss the old lobby and old characters. But the new animations and models are fire tho
tldr no
The hitbox of this weapon is disgusting. Because you can take damage, including from the air, you don't have a good hitbox when hitting it. Also I was watching someone play this knife and his hitbox was literally 10 millimeters away from him.
Because the M1 hit box is on a client's side soooooo yea..
@@Imsans12506 W h a t
I feel like as it is now, the three phases make it a bit too strong in some matchups. I like that it has three of them though. It makes the knife unique, so rather than nerfing that, I feel that they should lean into the tankiness and more technical abilities of the weapon. Lower overall M1 damage in the first two phases, Increase mana costs for moves and remove Happiness emotions ability to recover mana, but in exchange, increase the amount of mana you regain from calming down to make neutral useful, and increase the benefits you gain from inflicting status effects.
The mana regen on hit is intentional to carry momentum. You don't want to rushdown Sans into near death, then collapse and have to run away to regain mana. While Neutral is useless, that's kind of the point. It acts as a baseline for all other weapons to go off of while being a pitiful last resort.
How about making being hit while being sad take juice instead of hp just like in Omori? And yeah juice costs should really be higher, but maybe you could get some recovery items for juice so that you don't instantly run out
Dull knife sucks now, it’s literally the most annoying thing to kill, don’t get me wrong I can kill dull knife users but like OH MY GOD MAN it’s not worth the struggle, 20 exp, 20 fu***** exp, for 3 WHOLE LIVES, EACH GETTING BUFFS
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20 xp is hard???💀💀☠️☠️
This took me a while to get, all i had to do was ask somone to be a papyrus
I mean its still really cancer. Not saying its Overpowered, because even 2 Dull users always on my grill, I can still deal with them. I use Dust sans ( preferably Waterfall ) and sometimes the Fell variant. I can say that their not that bad to deal with, since I have the weapon so I know what the emotions are ( Never using it cuz I dont like it ). I 85% of the time win, also I won with Outerdust too. Its just Im always on low stamina and constantly Jumping and strafing like if its bullet hell on steroids.
Here's a easier way to get it: Rope ruins dust or snowdin dust during his death cutscene.
Rape*
@@ncisk5939rape?
@@ncisk5939😂 Bro
@@ncisk5939 dude...
@@trichyketchup what🤤🤤🤤?
I got the cutseen when you have the knife without having the knife
Did ur character LITTERALY stabbed ITSELF
Remember when dull knife had moves
everything seems balanced to me, it’s just the transition between lives is way too long, making ANY final a sans has USELESS.
(not to mention THREE EXTRA LIVES FOR SOMETHING AS EASY AND SIMPLE AS KILLING WITH EMPTY GUN ONCE)
2:47 the good old days of the original ULC, TS underswap papyrus being busted, SIX BONES was the best character, and morphs were actually good.
Dull knife power dropped faster than a person falling down a building
By the way agaisnt a 3dbb sans, apparently when it enter bonewalker mode you emotion become scared and you cant use your moves or change emotion for some sec,dont know if thats true you can test it 😊, anyway thanks for the showcase!
Edit: holy shit i didnt know you got demoted just because of a everyone in a wrong channel,sorry for you.
Really overpowered and unbalanced weapon to be honest, you have op skills and 3 lives
I think they are making the chara team weapons too op, now its almost imposible to wins as sans, they should nerf some weapons or buff the sans team
Can you still get this?
when I was getting dull knife I realized I was cracked at empty gun but I still got the achievement
Wait cuscene will play if you already have knife? i get it but i didht haved before knife
Maybe there now chance for that
Funny everyone mentions dust sans sucking against this thing… I obviously don’t wanna say otherwise, but outerdust can hold his own with both his stars and meteor… yes… camping is the start w/ him.
"You Try to calm down... But Your Lungs Struggle To Breath."
2:46 i do
fun fact: if you use dull knife on bonewalker, you're scared and can't change different emotion
I love your content kyucock❤️
hello squid
Can you still get it?
Fun fact: If you kill sans with any weapon when he is roped you still go to whitespace. For example me who had 8 wins and a stick managed to get the achievement
(This also works for morphs, i would know)
As long you have equip traitless and anyone else used the rope at right timing
stairs
Oh so that’s why I stabbed myself because I got it before the full knife was fully out
+ if you try to ROPE a dusttale sans while he is running away at cutsceen it will work
I think to make it better you should get exp (or kills with dust sans) every life that is used
You can also pet the cat at hyperdust bar to go to white space pet the cat till you see it dialouge change to "you feel dizzy"
Spoiler: No
Dodge characters get nuked by ecstatic and or maniac with red hands.
I don’t mean to be annoying but it’s actually called juice not mana😅
Hey i have all needed why cant i equip it?!?!?!?!?
Theres a little 2d beanos meme inside the whitespace near dull knife
Is it me or do you Take more dmg in general like with sans power because I feel that you take a lot more than you should but that could just be me and no I’m not just talking about anger because it feels that way with happy as well
Hello, great video but what editor do you use?
Btw, that "mana" bar is actually juice bar.
Dull knife have buggy hitboxes near blasters
I mainly abuse happy and sad emotions for stamina bosses but hp I use all emotion
Every phase should give 3/1 of the normal exp
And maybe phase need to somehow activate the kill passive like giving a little energy for dust sans
The kill passives trigger when you get one to the third life, and again after.
Each phase gives 10 EXP, and phase 3 gives 20.
I think It's more likely that you're bad
Juice, not mana
WHO CARES 🗣🔥💯
guys do you need kills to equip?
He’s more unbalanced than before
Omori knife is greedy they only give 1 kill to dust users
Merry Christmas, everyone!
Yesterday i did the quest 3 times and stabbed myself 3 times. When do I get the acheivment it spent me 2 hours of my life
Does he know? 🤔
you already got it then, just equip worn dagger and check your weapon skins
I have done it 10 times
That's the thing i still don't have it and i've given up on trying and i know its a skin for worn dagger but it wont let me equip it.@@casesater
Hi, person that made all dull knife expressions
Glad u liked the weapon, took a lot of effort.
Also for the people that say its bad, its not the weapon, it's you.
And for the people that say its op, your prob just using a sans that gets countered by it or you just.. you know. Skill issue.
speaking for the chara team, the weapon is op since it's an all rounder and work in every situation
there is almost no cons
speaking for the chara team, the weapon is op since it's an all rounder and work in every situation
there is almost no cons
the thing with it's all rounder power is that it work on every sans
of course it still get outclassed by certain weapon when fighting against certain sans
this does work on every sans ingame, it counters like 1/3 the roster directly and still does well against everything else
yea totally more balanced than ever
it doesn't work
have you tried to check on the ping 🤨
Why ppl call blue bar mana or stamina bar when it is simply called juice bar
cuz they either havent played or havent heard of omori
I miss old ulc lobby
*Its limited or usual bagde?*
usual badge
@@Xyphos good because I got pain on beating chara for 2 years
I have two very big minuses: hitboxes and the fact that omori phases do not give exp for sans! This is trash!💀
They give exp like 3 days already please dont say something without checking
Ugh. Bruh I don't speak English sorry
@@pointexe1119 you're english is very good, don't listen to the other guy. He is just a hater
Killing phase 1 and 2 give u 10 exp and killing phase 3 give you 20 exp
Their M1 hitboxs are almost unavoidable even if you jump or strafe around them. Im always on low stamina because of it
Dull knife is NOT balanced, it has 200 hp bacically the most attack with 210 anger dmg in phase three a way to slow sans team medium range attacks nah this aint balanced
Well, this is general chara hpsi anyway? Just 2 more. Both trident or triedent have more hp than this.
210 hp and most annoying weapon
Dull knife is balanced just play better. Anger is strong but if you use it you will most likely die in seconds cus of 2x dmg.for miserable just attack he will die cus of his speed . Happy maybe quit hard but still easy if you play defensely.
@@elkafest5263local man has never played hp character agains’t a dull knife user
You can't use a soul with it and dt has around 200 hp anyway
Bonewalker reaction 🥱
Mari: nuh uh
SPOILER ALERT *No it is not* also can we please buff the miserable attack it like barely hits lol
no way youre saying it needs to be BUFFED
For miserable attack you just have to use the ability again to stop it
@@GenericNooblol ik it has a delay so its hard af to hit
They legit nerfed Fell to the ground, Idk what your talking about for a "Buff", its too good for what it is. At this point I keep seeing 2 Dull knife users in every server
@@chilax_exterior ofc you will see a lot of them it just came out lol
I feel like Dull knife is pretty balanced just needs a bit of tuning here and there but the one problem I have with it is how low wins it is it's 65 wins so you can use it in low wins severs and there's not a lot you can get in low wins severs that can really counter dull knife especially three of them unless they are bad
For me I need more like +150 kills to get this skin
very cool
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you forgot the "afraid" status, that appears whe you fight BoneWalker 2phase
Make obtaining kill all sanses with emtty soul nono kill with a gun yesyes
you missed one that only happens in phase 2 of 3d sans
Afraid, which nullifies other emotions if you don't calm down every 45 seconds.
But, like, Bonewalker is unbeatable anyway..................
would be cool if they added STRESSED OUT for below 20%hp
@@patriciasordo7023 agreed ngl
Is it traitless or empty soul
traitless, i believe
it’s the one that just does nothing. it doesn’t half your hp
@@funkymonkey7252 so i just need kill him when the sans is in lasso
@@butter_fr yes and then you get taken to that place where u get dull knife
@@funkymonkey7252 sound to hard and i had bad aim plus IM mobile (sound like skill issue)
@@butter_fr just gonna have to keep trying xd
i didn’t struggle much but im pc so its different