lets say the number is 10 on the punch. its the punch is 9.5mm. the metal being formed is .5mm thick the rating or what its made for... you will when done punching have a 10mm outside diameter of 10mm. the metal will thin down to .25 mm thickness. @@Boomhauer100
Extremely grateful for the review. I need to make a flannged cut washer and this might be a good candidate for my project. Minimum manufacturing run starts at 10,000 pieces!
Not true. You are going to use many different gauges of metal with these. The reason they are smaller is to allow for a degree of spring back when forming the part. Metal always tries to return to it's original configuration when forming it. Until you pass the yield point, it will return to shape. Once you cross the yield threshold it will distort permanently but the metal still retains a degree of it's "spring" and that has to be compensated for. This is why dies for a sheet metal brake are not 90 degrees but over 90. If they weren't you could never get a 90 degree bend unless you actually crush the material and cause upset in the grain structure and necking down in the thickness.
As a gold- and silversmith, properly annealed metal will NOT spring back. As stated by many others, the clearance is to allow the finished piece to be 14mm, 12mm, etc. If no clearance is in place, metal gets pinched. Believe me, I have made that mistake more than once.
"Cupping" a plain steel flat washer will NOT make it a spring washer. You've made a BENT washer that has NO SPRING to it. It will simply flatten again once under compression. Spring washers are made from… wait for it … SPRING STEEL!
I just thought it was a little crazy that someone is just jawing in a review video and makes a comment and some one is always there to criticize. Lmao.
I was at a big box diy store, I saw an anti-slip plate for stair steps in winter, or even wet steps. Under $18 each for those. With this item, get sheet metal, drill some holes, punch them thru to put a small circular edge on it, like a soda/beer can top edge, with the middle cut out, flip it over, edges up, that's your traction. Make em any size the kit will handle. Make more than 3 step plates, and it paid for itself.
*i have one of the newer(ish) sets with the wooden block arrangement/display...very serviceable for my needs...craft tools are sort of a rabbit hole that can get really, really expensive very quickly*
It is for demonstration purposes only. I'm sure that had he been doing jewelry commissioned by Queen Elizabeth, a jewelers hammer would be in his hand?
Take a look around the engine of a car, specifically down below and around the tires. Domed washers tend to be used to locate soft or springy parts. The mounts that go between the subframe of a car and the body have a domed washer on each side. Sway bar linkages that mount directly to the sub frame of a car use a series of rubber bushings and domed washers, if you were replacing a lot of those then you could see a huge gain in profit just ordering the bolts and rubber bushings surplus and doming your own washers effective producing your own linkages. Not only that in those cases you would no longer be tied to the often cheap choices of materials the part vendors are peddling and could choose much more suitable materials, in sway linkage cases a hardened steel bolt instead of the soft metals they give you (which deform in a scale of months).
Spring washers are domed as they need some space to actually deform and built up spring tension. but what he made is simply useless as that is not springsteel.
Spring washers need to be made of higher carbon steel (spring steel) like 1095 and heat treated. You might get a little spring back out of the low/medium carbon steel a washer is made from, but don't expect much.
Great video thanks for the review I'm going to buy a set tommorow. Your hands look like mine. Chemicals and welding make some tuff mitts. You have earned the subscription. Cheers
Nice to see these for $45.99 and it is in stock at the H.F. next door to our micro machining shop here in Yucca Valley, California. New here subscribed. Nice share thank you for the exposure, Lance & Patrick.
@@moncorp1 YEP big no no . One of the first things I was taught as a carpenters apprentice is never strike a cold chisel with a nail hammer . Hardened steel striking hardened steel causes gouges in the hammer and can lead to eye injuries when the shards fly off and if done too many times can lead to the hammer head failing and shattering which thank GOD is a rare occurence.
I needed a 6" grinding wheel. Three different HF stores didn't have any in stock. I asked if they knew when they would get any in. They told me that they don't order anything. What the HF warehouse sends to the store is what they get in the various stores to sell. So, if you are looking for this doming block set or anything else, you'll have to wait for the luck of the poker draw to get one. You MIGHT be able to order it online.
It's good for the price,I bought a set from Germany ,Greuning and cost 325.00, obviously better quality but again,you can't beat the price of the harbor freight and it does the job
New sub. Cool tool & good demo. Not sure what or why I’d need to dome something but it’s good to know that there’s a reasonably priced tool to do so & it’s fairly well made.
Interesting tool. I'd be curious to see how it is applied for it's intended use. I can't picture how a jeweler would use this tool. Thanks for posting.
That washers you're trying to make is commonly called a Belleville washer. Used in a number of industrial applications such as they are in my CNC machine to hold the tools in the spindle. Stacked, they can be extremely strong. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belleville_washer
I wouldn't depend on a bent steel washer to improve nut holding ability, loctite or split washers would be a better choice or locktite. however that is an interesting video and there are a lot of things around the shop you could probably do with bent washers or conical shaped ones if you're fabricating things. 👍
kool tool. next time you get done washing your hands, dry them with a paper towel, or a towel. letting them air dry ,bubbles up your skin allowing bacteria to take hold. how do i know that, because , someone that went to the same school with had that same problem. dry your hands with a towel after washing, it looks gross.
I've used it on electric motor thrust washers cheap electric motors use bronze bushings and said of rolling bearings and the Armature is allowed to slide back and forth they control that with wave washers which tend to wear out faster than cone type washers and I've use this set to actually turn a wave washer into a cone type. And no I don't know why this video got so many views.
@Dave Almighty Then understand the video can be repeated for the stupider ones, for those of us who know what you're talking about it's insulting. Preach to a subject and remember your media is adjustable and repeatable. A Cresent wrench is an adjustable wrench, made by the Cresent Tools Co. All Rights Reserved. Anything else is just an adjustable wrench. Cresent is a brand name not a generic term for an adjustable wrench, although the children these days don't seem to understand the difference. After I retired, I was hired to conduct design training fora crop of new Mechanical Engineers. Three of them were graduates of very prestigious schools and a forth one had sat for and passed the PE test. Sadly, none of them could design their way out of a wet paper sack. Or, had any clue that they needed to consider things like electrical connections, pneumatics, sensors or even operator access. They could make a ton of pretty pictures on a CAD system through, none could be made or worked, but damn they looked great. Several of the guys balked at being told to learn from a "dinosaur" who was retired. However, when the company Vice-President came in and told them they would learn or be terminated their motivation was spurred onward and upward.
I could have used those working on Yamaha single cylinder engines. General rule of thumb was eather use lock tight or lock washers. A domed washer would work too. Single cylinder two stroke engines had a bad habit of shaking themelves to pieces. Thats an interesting tool. I am not sure I would ever need one now.
Am I the only person who doesn't understand the significance of the A286 stainless block? I found out it is used in jet engines, gas turbines and blowers, so must be high dollar?
As with most commercial items, I'm floored they was so many metals and jewels are wasted. There are endless possibilities but instead they all want replications of what another has. No two pieces should be alike.
Youre like a moron I worked with..."He's using a drill as a driver again." When actually it was a drill/driver. Whatever works to get it done you critical fuck.
Claw hammers aren't exactly designed to hammer against hardened tool steel. He was using it gently, so no real issue, but the hammer head can chip or fracture. I have a tiny piece of a claw hammer head lodged in my forehead from doing stuff like that as a kid. Wasn't fun.
@@defaultuser000 Damn brother, I got a piece in my forearm from my genius brother having me hold a camping axe on a piece of wood so he could whack the hammer face with a claw hammer to try and split the wood!! I was young and dumb but learned real quick when that metal shot into my arm causing a severe puncture wound!!! Bled the most I ever have!
@@timthegunguy47 Ouch. I was helping my cousin tear apart some old furniture for his parents, probably 12 years old. I was using a ball peen hammer to hit against the claw hammer head to drive the claws behind a panel to pull the nails out. After 3 or 4 times I got what felt like a hard bee sting on my forehead and in seconds my face was covered in blood. It was years later when I had a head x-ray before an MRI that the tech asked me if I knew that I had a tiny piece of metal in my forehead. It's still there. Lol.
Careful doing those two reviews from Harbor Freight the so-called TH-cam experts on here don't like Harbor Freight they think that buying only name brand expensive tools is the way to go me personally I have Harbor Freight tools that are 20 years old that still perform perfectly and yes after 20 or maybe 25 years of used tools do wear out even the name brand tools wear out I even heard one idiot on TH-cam say that professional mechanics don't use Harbor Freight Tools which is a bunch of garbage. Good to review man I think I might have to go look for that set
I'm 2 mins in and still don't know what these are for lol.. But it looks like that kitchen tool where it's a round bowl and you smash things into powder with a round handle thing too
It's one of the few items in the store that's made in India, and it's really no lesser quality than others you can find online. Which is why it's so expensive, for what it is.
I don't need a set like this, but now I want one...thanks.
The punches are smaller to allow for the thickness of the material being formed.
that set is rated to do .5mm metal.
lets say the number is 10 on the punch. its the punch is 9.5mm. the metal being formed is .5mm thick the rating or what its made for... you will when done punching have a 10mm outside diameter of 10mm. the metal will thin down to .25 mm thickness. @@Boomhauer100
correction the number stamped on it is set for .5mm metal sheets and will give you a OD of the stamped number.
Never heard of that tool, very educational. Keep it up!
Don’t forget your 20% off coupon, and free tape measure, woot!!
Chad M I’m still smiling from the dome job, to get a free tape measure and 20 percent off. 👍
In the jewelry industry it is known as a dapping block and punch
Once again a tool I had not seen before at Harbor Freight and didn't know what that would be good for in a home shop. Thanks for the video and cheers.
Extremely grateful for the review. I need to make a flannged cut washer and this might be a good candidate for my project. Minimum manufacturing run starts at 10,000 pieces!
The size is smaller because, the thickness of the material you are doming will make up the difference when hammered into the shape block. Cheers
Not true. You are going to use many different gauges of metal with these. The reason they are smaller is to allow for a degree of spring back when forming the part. Metal always tries to return to it's original configuration when forming it. Until you pass the yield point, it will return to shape. Once you cross the yield threshold it will distort permanently but the metal still retains a degree of it's "spring" and that has to be compensated for. This is why dies for a sheet metal brake are not 90 degrees but over 90. If they weren't you could never get a 90 degree bend unless you actually crush the material and cause upset in the grain structure and necking down in the thickness.
@@oh8wingman not true? Well i can say as a tool and die maker for 25 years that it most certainly is true
As a gold- and silversmith, properly annealed metal will NOT spring back. As stated by many others, the clearance is to allow the finished piece to be 14mm, 12mm, etc. If no clearance is in place, metal gets pinched. Believe me, I have made that mistake more than once.
"Cupping" a plain steel flat washer will NOT make it a spring washer. You've made a BENT washer that has NO SPRING to it. It will simply flatten again once under compression. Spring washers are made from…
wait for it …
SPRING STEEL!
True enough but, that was truly funny! Good one!
it will have some spring just less then a commercial one. It's not like its made of aneeled copper.
Damn. Doesn’t take much to trigger you huh. Do you own stock in a spring washer company or something. Lol. Calm down.
we discovered the secret. these are in fact IDENTICAL to spring washers. @@natekelly4667
I just thought it was a little crazy that someone is just jawing in a review video and makes a comment and some one is always there to criticize. Lmao.
Interesting tool. I've actually not seen this tool at HF.
I was at a big box diy store, I saw an anti-slip plate for stair steps in winter, or even wet steps. Under $18 each for those. With this item, get sheet metal, drill some holes, punch them thru to put a small circular edge on it, like a soda/beer can top edge, with the middle cut out, flip it over, edges up, that's your traction. Make em any size the kit will handle. Make more than 3 step plates, and it paid for itself.
*i have one of the newer(ish) sets with the wooden block arrangement/display...very serviceable for my needs...craft tools are sort of a rabbit hole that can get really, really expensive very quickly*
try putting a dash of grease on it before you form (heavy machinery grease or lithium grease or molyd)
I use graphite powder for my rifle casing die but that might be for easier clean up for reloading
Thanx for this. I just learned somethin'. Who want's to see him make an ice cube tray?
Claw Hammer????
My reaction also.
It is for demonstration purposes only. I'm sure that had he been doing jewelry commissioned by Queen Elizabeth, a jewelers hammer would be in his hand?
Maybe the number refers to the size of the DOME that is made using the intended thickness of material?
I have to stop watching your videos because I'm spending to much money on tools lol! nice video!
They are sometimes used to make contoured brass patches for curved tubing in band instrument repair.
I got a set for that very reason. Couple that with the hole punch set and making patches is actually enjoyable!
you should do something about your fungus... washing your hands in a very mild water-vinegar solution could help get back perfect skin
Where can I see what the point of cupped washers is?
Take a look around the engine of a car, specifically down below and around the tires. Domed washers tend to be used to locate soft or springy parts. The mounts that go between the subframe of a car and the body have a domed washer on each side. Sway bar linkages that mount directly to the sub frame of a car use a series of rubber bushings and domed washers, if you were replacing a lot of those then you could see a huge gain in profit just ordering the bolts and rubber bushings surplus and doming your own washers effective producing your own linkages. Not only that in those cases you would no longer be tied to the often cheap choices of materials the part vendors are peddling and could choose much more suitable materials, in sway linkage cases a hardened steel bolt instead of the soft metals they give you (which deform in a scale of months).
Spring washers are domed as they need some space to actually deform and built up spring tension. but what he made is simply useless as that is not springsteel.
Love the spring washer idea! This would be very handy in my shop.
Spring washers need to be made of higher carbon steel (spring steel) like 1095 and heat treated. You might get a little spring back out of the low/medium carbon steel a washer is made from, but don't expect much.
Thanks to this video i now know how to make the missing piece for my antique headlight.
Ya, I was thinking the same thing but I don't know if the dye hole is large enough. He didn't really say what the diameter was.
@@Aceondrums58 well, it's a start for the creative juices to start flowing.
Is that the kind of tool that i need to make a wiggling pin for a wobbling shaft ? Man I sure do hope so because I've been looking for one for years.
Great video thanks for the review I'm going to buy a set tommorow. Your hands look like mine. Chemicals and welding make some tuff mitts. You have earned the subscription. Cheers
Nice to see these for $45.99 and it is in stock at the H.F. next door to our micro machining shop here in Yucca Valley, California.
New here subscribed.
Nice share thank you for the exposure, Lance & Patrick.
Thank you so much for subscribing
Thanks for show me the dome. I learned something new every day 👍
Thank you
I think it would be wise to have a brass Hammer to go with it
yeah, never a good idea to use hardened steel on hardened steel.
@@moncorp1 YEP big no no . One of the first things I was taught as a carpenters apprentice is never strike a cold chisel with a nail hammer . Hardened steel striking hardened steel causes gouges in the hammer and can lead to eye injuries when the shards fly off and if done too many times can lead to the hammer head failing and shattering which thank GOD is a rare occurence.
the imprint of a punch mark would be a ring around the 13.5mm + roughly .5mm equals 14mm dent/punch mark
Interesting. I will have to assess my needs to justify the purchase of something like this.
I needed a 6" grinding wheel. Three different HF stores didn't have any in stock. I asked if they knew when they would get any in. They told me that they don't order anything. What the HF warehouse sends to the store is what they get in the various stores to sell. So, if you are looking for this doming block set or anything else, you'll have to wait for the luck of the poker draw to get one. You MIGHT be able to order it online.
I know exactly what you mean they been sending our store here in Tucson AZ snow shovels for years
@@Richard-wk9le Those are for the folks that live on Mt Lemmon.
splash acid on your hands ?
I got mine back when Harbor Freight Tools sold them labeled wrong, "DEMING" instead of the correct "DOMING" ,lol..
That's how it's spelled in China.
@@ezrabrooks7785 really?
If you look at anything made in China, the instructions will always have simple misspellings.
I think they're what is listed on the punch is a number size which are not used much anymore
It's good for the price,I bought a set from Germany ,Greuning and cost 325.00, obviously better quality but again,you can't beat the price of the harbor freight and it does the job
New sub. Cool tool & good demo. Not sure what or why I’d need to dome something but it’s good to know that there’s a reasonably priced tool to do so & it’s fairly well made.
Another great idea is to put in a 4" circular saw blade.
I'll let you figure the rest out as to what it can be used for in woodworking. :)
Interesting tool.
I'd be curious to see how it is applied for it's intended use. I can't picture how a jeweler would use this tool.
Thanks for posting.
@Juan Lopez thanks for the information!
I bought my set to forge sleigh bells for forming their shape I don't really use the block though
I see great potential in making air baffles in my powerful air rifle,thank.
That washers you're trying to make is commonly called a Belleville washer. Used in a number of industrial applications such as they are in my CNC machine to hold the tools in the spindle. Stacked, they can be extremely strong.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belleville_washer
Lol, your pic looks like my Cat Mathilda, and you are reviewing harbor freight tools, Absolutely awesome.
I wouldn't depend on a bent steel washer to improve nut holding ability, loctite or split washers would be a better choice or locktite. however that is an interesting video and there are a lot of things around the shop you could probably do with bent washers or conical shaped ones if you're fabricating things. 👍
Guess u gotta know what ur using it on.
I want to see this press that you have.
kool tool.
next time you get done washing your hands, dry them with a paper towel, or a towel. letting them air dry ,bubbles up your skin allowing bacteria to take hold.
how do i know that, because , someone that went to the same school with had that same problem.
dry your hands with a towel after washing, it looks gross.
That hand drying thing is not the cause at all. Its from an auto-immune disorder caused by allergies.
huh, well imagine that. totally meant no disrespect at all, was just looking out for your heath benefits, that is all.
So what have you used this set for since then Catus? It's interesting but quite useless as far as I can see.
I've used it on electric motor thrust washers cheap electric motors use bronze bushings and said of rolling bearings and the Armature is allowed to slide back and forth they control that with wave washers which tend to wear out faster than cone type washers and I've use this set to actually turn a wave washer into a cone type.
And no I don't know why this video got so many views.
@@CatusMaximus Probably because so many people don't know what this tool is never mind it's uses.
Dude, you don't have to explain everything three times.
@Dave Almighty Then understand the video can be repeated for the stupider ones, for those of us who know what you're talking about it's insulting. Preach to a subject and remember your media is adjustable and repeatable.
A Cresent wrench is an adjustable wrench, made by the Cresent Tools Co. All Rights Reserved. Anything else is just an adjustable wrench. Cresent is a brand name not a generic term for an adjustable wrench, although the children these days don't seem to understand the difference.
After I retired, I was hired to conduct design training fora crop of new Mechanical Engineers. Three of them were graduates of very prestigious schools and a forth one had sat for and passed the PE test. Sadly, none of them could design their way out of a wet paper sack. Or, had any clue that they needed to consider things like electrical connections, pneumatics, sensors or even operator access.
They could make a ton of pretty pictures on a CAD system through, none could be made or worked, but damn they looked great. Several of the guys balked at being told to learn from a "dinosaur" who was retired. However, when the company Vice-President came in and told them they would learn or be terminated their motivation was spurred onward and upward.
Right tool for the right job .
Thats a great idea!!
Pretty cool!
Interesting--how many home-made spring washers do you need to make to justify a $45 Doming Block Set, I wonder!
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You have dyshidrotic eczema, incase you didn't know.
Wow you are so observant! I bet he had no idea at all you ass,
@@couterei.1953 itchy mutch? LOLs
@@marcjtdc Maybe he didn't, dummy. I went a long time without knowing. I also hope you never suffer from any disease silently.
I could have used those working on Yamaha single cylinder engines. General rule of thumb was eather use lock tight or lock washers. A domed washer would work too. Single cylinder two stroke engines had a bad habit of shaking themelves to pieces. Thats an interesting tool. I am not sure I would ever need one now.
Am I the only person who doesn't understand the significance of the A286 stainless block? I found out it is used in jet engines, gas turbines and blowers, so must be high dollar?
It absorbs the blows of him hitting
Thanks for sharing I appreciate the information now I know the use for that tool I am now ToolSmart
Yay!
Need to buy one .
I thought this was an infomercial for some kind of extreme hand lotion
It's the size of the corresponding Dome
I have a cylinder of inconel about half the size of that piece of A286
Love the kitty
Block holes was done on lathe
For hobbies, see coin rings.
Good way to make cheap suppressor baffles.
As with most commercial items, I'm floored they was so many metals and jewels are wasted. There are endless possibilities but instead they all want replications of what another has. No two pieces should be alike.
Hello Catus. I am Willass.
Claw hammer is for nails
4:14 would have be more impressed if it was something like R56400
There are very few instances when ti is better suited than steel even ignoring cost. Even though titanium is cool it will never be super alloy cool.
Get a real hammer and some hand cream bro.....
LMAO.
You lost me when you used a claw hammer for metal work. I'm funny that way.
Youre like a moron I worked with..."He's using a drill as a driver again." When actually it was a drill/driver. Whatever works to get it done you critical fuck.
Claw hammers aren't exactly designed to hammer against hardened tool steel. He was using it gently, so no real issue, but the hammer head can chip or fracture. I have a tiny piece of a claw hammer head lodged in my forehead from doing stuff like that as a kid. Wasn't fun.
@@defaultuser000 Damn brother, I got a piece in my forearm from my genius brother having me hold a camping axe on a piece of wood so he could whack the hammer face with a claw hammer to try and split the wood!! I was young and dumb but learned real quick when that metal shot into my arm causing a severe puncture wound!!! Bled the most I ever have!
@@timthegunguy47 Ouch. I was helping my cousin tear apart some old furniture for his parents, probably 12 years old. I was using a ball peen hammer to hit against the claw hammer head to drive the claws behind a panel to pull the nails out. After 3 or 4 times I got what felt like a hard bee sting on my forehead and in seconds my face was covered in blood. It was years later when I had a head x-ray before an MRI that the tech asked me if I knew that I had a tiny piece of metal in my forehead. It's still there. Lol.
@@defaultuser000 Daaaammmnnnn sounds like we both got the same life lesson of what not to do with hammers!! Lol
Thought it was a fancy die at first.
I think you need a different hammer
If I had a doller for every focus change in this vid...
Cornhuskers lotion. 😉
Almost like a mini dimple die set.
man you have to take better care of your hands.
Talk talk talk!
You know, probably it would be the inside size of the block concavity
Harbor freight sells some wierd stuff
Then what
Hard to watch. Too much talking not enough pressing.
You have a hand fungus my friend... easily cured, dont spread the love.
What’s the cure?
@@mrpanther7013 apple cider vinegar "home remedy" or cream see a doc
@@couterei.1953 go on carnivore diet for month
Hongos en manos y uñas...😑
Talk less
Too many ahs,unsubscribing
It’s easy if you want real tools avoid harbor freight junk.
jon doe so is your mom . Lmao 😂
Nerd alert
Talk to much!
"Life.. finds a way" you sound like Jeff Goldblum haha
You should use Oil! or any Lube
Catus Maximus - Great video! It seems like a drop of oil on both sides of the washer would help. I lubricate my flaring too that way. Excellent work!
Careful doing those two reviews from Harbor Freight the so-called TH-cam experts on here don't like Harbor Freight they think that buying only name brand expensive tools is the way to go me personally I have Harbor Freight tools that are 20 years old that still perform perfectly and yes after 20 or maybe 25 years of used tools do wear out even the name brand tools wear out I even heard one idiot on TH-cam say that professional mechanics don't use Harbor Freight Tools which is a bunch of garbage. Good to review man I think I might have to go look for that set
It's to make up for the thickness of material..jewelry usually has a standard thickness for each metal, eg. Gold, silver, copper...
Never seen this tool. Wow thanks for bringing it. Happy to see your channel growing up fast
I can't even hear the words. All I hear is the sound of that hand skin crying out to be pruned.
OK, so other than smashing washers what is this good for?
Dimpling speed holes.
Cutting holes in a gasket
Making rings and other jewelry..
Actually, Aren't actual spring washers actually made from .... Actual Spring steel? 😯
The thing turn mild steel washers into spring steel? Incredible.
also lead into gold.
to much talk not enough action bro !
I'm 2 mins in and still don't know what these are for lol..
But it looks like that kitchen tool where it's a round bowl and you smash things into powder with a round handle thing too
3:42 heyyyyyyyyy so that's one use =D
i dont know where i could use this but if i ever do need to make something like this im in. thank you i learned something today.
The sizing of the dome has material clearance built-into it for the hole it sets in that will give you a 14mm dome on finish product.
It's one of the few items in the store that's made in India, and it's really no lesser quality than others you can find online. Which is why it's so expensive, for what it is.