what NOT to grow in a cold-climate food forest

Jonathan Bates and Eric Toensmeier, co-authors of Paradise Lot, gardened together for almost two decades. Now on their own farms, what plants did the choose not to bring along to their new homes?

[@davidthegood]

This is epic. I enjoyed Paradise Lot, and have referred to it in my own writing. Good to see both of you together.

[@MogiMann]

You guys are legends. I enjoyed this very much. I've been loving my Turkish rocket so far.. It's been feeding us all spring. Maybe I'll change my mind later hahaha. We are trialing out Houttyunia Chameleon and fish mint varieties as shade tolerant ground cover, for food and medicine. It has trouble surviving our winters, so we'll see.. Food is just so expensive up here in Canada right now, I am just happy I had legends like you both to learn from and inspire me the last few years, so that we've been able to stay healthy and fed, during hard times up here. My food forest is reaching 6 years old, and we did a major expansion this Spring, so far so good. One of my favorites is I made a trellised bed of Hablitzia's and Perennial arugula's, that has been very tasty. And Seakale is delicious! All the best from the west coast of the land they call Canada.

[@vanrickenstien]

A follow up video on what TO GROW in a cold climate food forest would be very interesting with your experience.

[@davidthegood]

I absolutely love Chinese yam. The bulbils and the roots. It grows well here even in zone 8b. It's not safe if you let it go in the wild, but it's a marvelous garden crop. Originally found that due to you two.

[@davidthegood]

I appreciate your practical approach to it.

[@vilmatell369]

Thank you, this was very helpful!

[@radicalcannabis4857]

This is awesome. Thanks for sharing. I would add Sweet Cicely to the list. It got totally out of control and is challenging to tell the difference between that and wild chervil.

[@az55544]

#foodforest #erictoensmeier #jonathanbates #perennialgarden #perennialAF #turkishrocket #seakale #perennialsolutions #foodforestfarm

[@colepwarren]

Great video, lots of niche cold hardy perrenials I've been experimenting with or interested in were covered in this video.

[@colepwarren]

A cold hardy perrenial veg I've had success with are Toon tree, AKA beef and onion plant, AKA Chinese Mahongany shoots. They're a really nice beef and onion flavored young branch shoots similar to the Angelica tree shoots, but minus the thorns.

[@freyavanruth2285]

Can you use it through out the growing season?

[@colepwarren]

@@freyavanruth2285 So far, yes. The more mature leaves are more bitter and slightly chemically, but I only think that would be overwhelming in a negative way if you are trying to use it for a main vegetable for your dish. Don't see the bitterness coming through for broth since it's mostly in the stem or middle of the leaf.
Otherwise, the glossy red new shoots (that are less bitter) seem to keep coming all growing season. Not sure if it's evergreen or not for winter.