Here's How Much Money Racecar Drivers Make!
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- Kenny Wallace discusses how much money NASCAR drivers and dirt racers make.
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Kenny it's about time some told the general public what it costs to be independent racer. Great Show.
Herman, Your are doing exactly what it takes to make money racing.
Having a monetized TH-cam channel talking about racing with a big boat load of subscribers.
He don’t have a boat load of subscribers. The millennial farmer in Minnesota I watch has over a million subscribers, he is making money on TH-cam
😊I remember that 1 time I was one of your sponsors! Made me so happy to be able to put my name and my grandfather's name on your car so you could race that week. I still have that beautiful photo of you and the car (that you sent me) on the wall on my staircase and I smile at you every morning as I am coming down to start my day. ❤
My brother started with Jack Roush in 98.He was interviewed by our hometown paper about how he liked it.He had worked 17 hours a day for SEVERAL days.His answer to the question was "BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR."
Great informative video,keep them coming driver.....
In the late 90s my cousin toured me thru Pettys shop. He was the gas man on Sundays for John Andretti #43 and also worked in the body shop during the week. He was making close to 100k at the time, but gone all the time and lots of hours. Its a devotion more than a job!
A good friend of mine was a tire changer for an Indy team. He lasted about 2 1/2 years. He wasn’t a big guy, but he was fit and strong and played D2 football. He said he looked forward to the races so he got a break from working so much. He said that he basically changed tires all day, every day to get the rhythm and timing down for race day. Even in his early 20’s, his body was constantly sore. He was continually treated for strains and minor injuries. He made good money, but was never home and had no time to spend it. Part of the way through his third season, he got a back injury that sidelined him for about 6 weeks. He came back, but was then fired because his performance slipped and his replacement was faster.
I met him a couple years after his stint with Indy. We raced some SCCA type stuff together. Even at 26-27 years old, he moaned and groaned like an old man if he had to get up and down to change a tire on his car, or work on his brakes or whatever. He said it was fun for the stories and stuff, but he’d never do it again because of what it did to his body. Since he was always gone, he had a small nest egg that paid for his down payment on his house. That’s all he got out of it. He’s about 50 now and I haven’t spoken to him in several years, but last I heard, he was selling crop seed in Iowa.
Right on. I started in the racing business in 1978 until 2014 as a owner, driver, builder, parts store and with the help from my family owned accounting business reality set in fast and when I explain to my customers how much it cost per night without wrecking and including the hauler expenses they can't comprehend the actual cost. That's why they usually go from one maxed out credit card to the next
This podcast is the good side of social media. Learning more about our favorite interests and becoming a fan of drivers like Kenny and Dale Jr in my 30s seeing how relatable they truly are. Two of the most transparent men of our sport.
One of the best comments out there is "if you want to become a millionaire tractor pulling, start as a billionaire."
I would live like a nomad for any of those numbers, even the low ones, to race at those levels. What a life. Love your shop!
This was an awesome video. You kept it 100 with us. Can't wait to see you run in the CARS Tour!!!
This is by far the hottest thing going right now. The info Kenny Wallace brings to us, the peasant race fans, is simply amazing. Thank you for taking us behind the scenes, and de-bullshitting everything for us, Herman.
Hey Kenny I’ll never forget you pushing Dale to his 76th and final win 🏆 You stayed with him he came from way back …Great memories
Legendary! Would have loved to have seen Dale go for an 8th Championship.
@@Aaron25thinfantry 2001 would have been a great championship battle. Dale had a great 2000 season, then Harvick finished 9th in points in Dale's car as a rookie (who missed a race and competed full-time in the Busch series).
@@chadchadchadchadchad You're dreaming, Dale wasn't a serious contender for a cup since 1994, the only tracks he was competitive at were the plate tracks, 4 races a year. The last 5 years of his career he was average...He did come in 2nd to Bobby in 2000, but Bobby won easily, and he came in 2nd in 1995 to Jeff Gordon, but the rest of those years he was mid pack. To suggest he would have dominated at 50 years old in 2001 is a stretch....
Kenny should have spun him, out like Earnhardt did to Rusty at Talladega in 1993..Kenny deserved ONE cup won over Dale's 70 plus.
@@pulsarlights2825 , rusty was blocking dale at 200mph and dale wasn't letting off, plain and simple, rusty should have known better.
I hear ya Kenny. When I raced my asphalt street stock at I 70 Speedway. Most I made was $50. That covered my $20 entry fee and fuel for 1 Saturday night. I did it all on my own dime.
I worked a salvage yard in Kansas City. Was given parts. That’s it for my sponsors.
I love how you keep it real with everyone and lay it all out
Great insight and analysis Herminator! In the boom days, I wonder what kind of contracts Jeff, Jimmie, Jr, Tony and Carl had, it must have been huge guarantees and big percentages of the purses. The sponsorships were enormous, as were the team budgets. Even with inflation, I suspect that the top teams spent more 20 years ago than they do now.
We all got lucky when Donald Trump became our president, I have worked the same job in the same shop since 1999. I love my job, I don't make a killing but for 4 years I did really good.
And as for what you said in the beginning of the video about you might be silly sometimes, well God bless you sir, life is meant to be lived and have fun.
You take care of what you need to take care of in everyday life, just nothing wrong with being silly living life and just enjoying yourself. Since your days in the cup series, you have always been an extremely fun personality to watch, I love that you have to channel now.
God Bless brother
Show is awesome, puts me in a better mood every time I watch it.
Man I don't care what anybody makes I have to worry about myself good for you guys God bless I have to leave on 1400 dollars a month and it's really hard good for you guys I love my racing
Ric Flair's shoes costs more than your house
I've been a racing fan for 30 years, and I've learned more about racing in the last 25 minutes than all 30 years combined
No surprises. I know a guy on the Lucas Late Model tour. It probably costs him near $1,000,000 a year to run his racing operation. Those Scott twins in dirt racing, well their Grandma owns half of Arizona (well, maybe not but might as well for as wealthy as she is).
I have spent thousands and now I'm out of racing and wishing I never got in to it but it was a experience ill never forget
too much jibber jabber for me, bored after 2 minutes, he could have made a 5 minute video. IMO
@@boossersgarage3239I’m grateful I have a mind that is big enough to not be filled up and bored in just two minutes. Successful thinkers value context and understand the value of information in context. You think it’s just information because you have no vision.
@@boossersgarage3239 that's his MO. Bottom line is any full time racing is a gypsy lifestyle. Much easier to work for the man @$30/ save some $$ and retire.
True facts have been given. My family raced local tracks in Virginia and North Carolina. My dad was on pit crew and it nearly broke the bank. Racing is a grind like no other, it’s truly a passion project. We did race against Elton Sawyer, which most people in racing know made it to the big time. Knew him before he got famous, ran Langley Speedway.
I used to be a crew member on a late model. I paid my own way in. Didn't get paid. Did it because I love racing and wanted to be a part of it.
Did you go to the school in Mooresville?
@@FlagTheRef nope. Just showed up and helped. Was fun.
Hell yeah
I raced for years never had much success but I loved it nonetheless if you can afford it go for it but make no mistake don’t neglect the family for fun
My local track was expensive, so the following year, my friend & I did ambulance duty at the track; after that, I worked a corner in a truck, & wrecker duty. We got paid a flat hamburger & a coke.
I worked CORR events, supplied the corner guys with drinks a few times, & worked as a corner flag man; I got a neon T-shirt, a dry hotdog, an energy drink, & I collected all the dust & sunburn as a reward.
I feel you on a similar level, Kenny. People think because I have 116,000 subscribers and 10s of millions of video views on TH-cam that I am just rolling in money, when that's not the case at all. In the past month I have had to suddenly spend about $6000 and it's just about breaking me. I don't have any sponsors, would love some to come on board, but I survive 99% off of ad revenue. People think they know everything, but when it comes right down to the facts, it turns out they don't know much! "Timing and circumstances" is about as true of a statement as ever too, I agree. Thanks for de-BSing as always, Kenny. One of the real ones out here!
Landon Huffman was saying (Hickory Raceway), winning heat race and feature would not cover the nights expenses (entry fee, pit passes, fuel and tires). If I recall correctly, he as losing about $300 per night (winning every race) not counting the cost of the car.
NASCAR drivers clearly dont make as much $ as they did in the 90s & 00s
The easiest way to make a small fortune in racing is to start with a large fortune.
"if you are not making money, what you are doing is a hobby not a job" Dave Ramsey
The key to a happy life is turning your hobby and passion into a job that makes money. Then you'll never work another day in your life again.
I’ve tried my hand at dirt Circle and drag racing. If I could ever break even it would be a wonderful feeling.
250k-400k gross is still a living. Hell.... I'll take that!
I am sure when you figure in your private jet to get you to the race tracks all over the US and pay for a motorhome and the driver to get it to the race tracks, it probably goes pretty quick.
@@curtismansell5254 good points. I would assume that the team would cover some of this but I could be wrong. Even 1099 employees have some costs covered by the employer.
Kenny’s keeping it real. So so true! Appreciate ya!!!!
NASCAR has lost the fan base of just a few years ago. The motorways had to paint the seats different colors so when the camera pans past the seating, the empty seats aren't as noticeable.
The phony noose scam didn't help either.
I love Kenny. The best NASCAR race ever was a rain delay. Kenny, Harvick, and Schrader were given camera men and cruised around the track creating mischief. Just awesome. Been a fan of Kenny ever since.
Kenny, watched you race for years. You tell it like it is. Always learn something from every one of your videos. Your sense of humor is second to none. Even when your serious, you put a good spin on it. Thanks Brother you make us all smile.
I remember Kenny coming along in Cup, as we're the same age. He is the funniest guy in motorsports, by far. I remember Kenny driving a "Super Chicken" on some show on Speed, I think, and he was driving against some guy in a Lambo on a road course. When the race first started, nobody knew who was driving the T/A and Kenny beat this guy in a new Lamborghini against Kenny in a '76-'77 Trans Am with a 455 S.D. under the hood. It was hilarious when Kenny beat him and he took off his blacked out full face helmet and the Lambo guy started whining about Kenny blocking him, blah, blah, blah. Funny stuff. Kenny's videos are some of the most interesting and informative there are on here.
Great info. I’ve always wondered how the nascar guys get paid, taxes, insurance etc. I’d love more info on the inner workings big teams. Another show just talked about llc, marketing etc. these are good new subjects. Been a fan since 1979 and just learned a lot. Thanks🇺🇸
Its alot like Hollywood. You have to be strong and stay and make what you can. This sport as its known will take everything including heart and soul. I know this personally.
Thanks Kenny for your honest humble opinion and for telling it like it is! Stay safe out there and God Bless.🙏🏻👍💯
I would drive Nascar for free just to show them I can drive
This man has educated me more about how much money race car drivers make in less than 30 minutes than anyone else has.
Kenny, you may have just dashed the dreams of a lot of starry eyed young guys and gals that think they are the next Kyle or Chase, but Thank You for being honest and doing the dirty work that these young drivers need this eye opening truth!! This video should be MANDITORY for all those that have "the dream" of being a full time Racecar Driver!!
Super interesting Kenny! I know back in the day when Dave Marcus and JD McDuffie for example were racing (old school owner drivers) They had side hustles to make ends meet (testing etc)- and a lot of friendships/ help from other teams. Does anything like that still happen for smaller teams/ drivers?
Excellent breakdown here of the reality of the dream. To be honest, I wasn’t aware of the extent of race car driver salaries. Appreciate the knowledge! Great job Herman!
Ok Kenny I have a question... How much does it cost a sponsor for lets say one of those 4x4 inch stickers on a car? Damn good content! Loved this one as I've been wondering from Legends up what the pay scale was. Also what do pit crew guys make in NASCAR? (I figure it is darn little for series other than NASCAR).
Thank You for your honesty, luv ya Kenny!!
Herman you sleep well on that mattress stuffed with all that NASCAR $$$$. LOL Kenny you re a lot wiser than the average fireman.I love your honesty.Keep keeping on .
awesome debull shittin! best ever.
Why do drivers have to pay to drive? Joey Logano conversation didn’t make any sense to me what’s the money for?
So true mr.Wallace i learned from humble beginnings what racing was all about. You are 100% correct how to really make money in real estate and stock market . C.M Andreoli Toronto Canada.
nice to hear you got lucky with the stock market. stocks and retirement funds did really well under Trumps term, I think many of us miss that era.
Thanks Kenny, all forms of motor racing have the same outcome whether you are racing Supercross, NHRA Pro Stock, and NASCAR. You can start out rich but in the end, spending your own money is going to hurt.
Excellent job! I am also 60 and simply wont/can't live on a track burger with 4 (stinky) guys in the hauler. When your 18, different story.
I have responsibilities.
I know some rock musicians, same story......
Thanks for the real talk Herm! I miss the days watching You , Rusty , Senior ,Schrader and all the other guys when nascar was REAL! When drivers could make a car better because they new how to drive!!! Love the video's sir !! Keep up the good work!
AMEN!!!!!!!!!
Kenny, I really wanted to ask the question, how do you go about talking to someone for sponsors. I know you're famous and busier than a one-handed paper-hanger, but I would love to know how to go talk to someone about sponsoring. Thanks.
@@jonathanburkhead681 I can kinda answer that as some who race mods you have go about selling your self in away the best thing jast keep trying.
@@jonathanburkhead681
There’s a couple of books on that. For average driver/owners, on average you can sometimes get some agreements with folks for a little promotion in exchange for a little money to partially help with average expenses. Sometimes you’ll get lucky; maybe 1 out of 150-250 serious sit-down proposals on average you will get a very good response and a fantastic sponsorship contract with those guides.
But better- and few can do this well- is to have a really good promotional value written out and detailed where you heavily invest yourself in a lot of ‘appearances’ for the benefit of the sponsor. And you sell that, and you perform that.
Some drivers are good at getting people to give them money, a surprising number of average guys are very good at that.
But you don’t want to be looking for sponsors who will give you money. You want sponsors for whom you are providing value to, to whom you are performing a service for and giving them great value. Sell THAT.
Then you will be above average, get above average money, and be developing your name as a brand that people - sponsors- know they can trust and depend on. Oh, you better be pulling of some good finishes, too, and your car outa look like you care.
Once you understand that this is a business and you represent your ‘stickers’ and names on the car well, and promote like John Force, Kevin Harvick, Wallace, or even Hailee Deegan for that matter.
Go back and listen to Kyle Bush and others (like Harvick) who have stated it’s not about performance anymore, it’s about if you can bring money (sponsors) with you. So you build a brand (you, yours) and parlay that. And your ability to sell in the boardroom for a win is more important than the top fives; or starting out it’s more important to bring the team and friends to fill every seat at Jeremy & Sara’s Pasta and Steakhouse (who are on your rear quarter) and guerrilla market them to death.
Easy for me to say- I haven’t done it. In racing. But I’ve sold a lot of things and run in the top ten of my ‘segment’ by being honest, selling myself, and providing people value.
There’s always a better salesman; there’s very few that create relationships and value.
@@jonathanburkhead681 try to get someone that you already do business with. "I pay you, you sponsor me" 🙂
Kenny, Hailie Deegan jumped from $450,000 a year driving for DGR and now she's at $535,000 for a one year contract driving for Thorsport Racing. Is that salary coming from sponsorship, Ford, Thorsport Racing, or a combination of all three?
I love Kenny's honesty! Always keeping it real! 💯
That’s why Kenny is my favorite nascar/racing personality!! Can’t wait for Dale Sr. to come back and tell his story on why he left!! I respect him more after he left, than I liked him before he left…..
Herm ... the merch ... don't forget the merch! Build a name and sell a 100 $7 t-shirts for $30 and make $2,300!!! This is why guys like David Gravel drive their Merch Trailer all over the country! And media ... become a content creator!!!
I guess what I'm saying is ... another way to make money racing is to diversify ... put your hands in multiple pockets!
We needed this as fans thanks herminator
I've been driving race cars of one kind or another (amateur racing)for 40 years. It's been said many times. " How fast do you want to go??? How much money do you have?? " or have access to
Want to make a small fortune in racing? Start out with a big fortune and go from there. My heart doesn't bleed for you as you verbalize your anger. You're an entertainer and an adrenaline freak for God's sake. Be thankful you've made any money to support your addiction. Driving an advertising billboard has its privileges. Try SCCA for a real exercise in humility. I played that game making the run offs while holding down a real engineering job and supporting a family. It was a gigantic challenge to put it mildly. Talk about a money pit - you're on your own unless you can con a friend or two to join your 'team.' Sure a couple 'special' teams get famous but there are zero gold watches in club racing. I enjoy your you tube performances and I'm a fan but it's all about the show. No one in SCCA can put a 25 minute rant like this. In the end, racing is racing. I loved my time at it but living that dream was a nightmare!
I raced two years dirt track, spent about $1000 a night to win $350.00
And can tell you about working 18 hours a day as a car owner. Only to have some jerk run into the car and tear it up. The track makes its money off the damage the idiots cause because the fans come to see the wrecks not the race and there is no enforcement of the rules.
Move to Mooresville, get a job in racing only to discover that I can make more money emptying the sitter in the motorcoach working for Tommy Johnson then I could as a fabricator. I cried the whole way to Statesville on the way home.
What Kenny said was the truth. My car is still on the trailer 22 year's later.
The race engine is probably locked up by now.
Who cares. Its still cheaper than going racing.
I love JEGS. They are the GOAT. I used them as a kid. Mom used to have to call them up for me and order haha. Mom knew all about JEGS
i worked for a dirt modified team doing engines ,we raced 11 out of 14 days and we all had full time jobs as well ,what the public doesnt see is all the hours we put in ,staying in motels between race tracks ,, getting up at seven in morning going for breakfast and heading to a carwash to clean car and do maintenance from night before, reload trailer and head to next track , race that night ,leave track at midnight after getting paid ,, travel in middle of night to next track , have been all over canada and usa through many cities never to visit any of them ,, it was all you could see looking out a truck window at two A.M. in the morning . yes we,ve met many people during our travels but never really become close friends, racing is alot of work and you may even get some fame or noteriety out of it , its not as glamourous as the public thinks it is, racing cost me family time and a divorce in the end
You are a very lucky man to have the complete support of your family. I wish you were in the booth. You are my favorite announcer, ever! Thank you for the work you put into this channel!
Interesting post. As a NASCAR fan I was always curious.
Very, very insightful information. I always wanted to know some of the behind the scenes stuff involved in racing. What an eye opener for me.
Love the term debullshit
I have always called racing family's traveling gypsy's . I watch Mandy Pauch and it puts all this in perspective .having life long relationships with the sponsor's is how they pass the racing life off to there kids. they are hard to get and they are verry protective of that bond.
"How do you make a small fortune in racing and/or general aviation? Start with a large fortune"
Racing is a hobby
pay to play , I wrenched on late models and modifieds .
I never made any money but had one hell of a good time
Thanks Kenny for the education. Racing is definitely not a get rich quick proposition. Definitely a expensive hobby.
Hi Kenny We really appreciate your youtube videos and the actual racing information you give us.
I would drive Nascar for free just to show them I can drive
About a third Is normal for a driver. Example: truck driver who drives for a flatbed company. Let's say small company. New driver with experience starts at 25% of the gross off the load. Tenure equals higher percentage. 5 year driver makes 34% of load.
Kenny you are 100% correct I have been dirt late model racing 44yrs never had big sponsors but I appreciated everyone that ever helped me I do it for the love of the sport and I have always loved trying new ideas to see if I can make the car faster but I wouldn't be able to do it without having a full time real job 👍👍🏁🏁
Luv your no BS facts about what goes on behind the glitter and cake. Thanks man keep those vids coming
Kenny 99.9% of all people would fall out just being on a local weekly track team, when I was involved in racing the family I helped did it with very little sponsorship we all lost girlfriends or wives, you better love the people your with because they will be your family. one of the people we raced with got divorced because termites had ate the corner of the house and the fireplace caved in but he had a new Gambler chassis for the next season.
Trump & Herman 2024..LMAO.
Awesome explanation Kenny. Videos are so much fun to watch.
Kenny your the best i miss you on raceday real class no bs just facts
"You don't have a clue" and that's why we ask out of curiosity, and we get no answer. So thanks for this video.
Good video I wanted you to break each sticker into a $ amount
Very cool that you did this video. Could you do one where you tell us roughly what the sponsors pay? Size of decal, placement etc. would be cool to hear some numbers on that. Really hope to meet you one day. So friends and I go to Michigan every year.
I'm getting into lawn tractor pulling. First pull, smoked the clutch. Currently installing a 550 dollar highly upgraded unit to make sure it doesn't happen again. I'll probably never make that money back in winnings, but I love every penny spent trying to get that win!!! Great info!!!
But where dumb asses for doing what we love.... Guess that's what I am then if Kenny said it. Still love it
I would like to see the breakdown of the cost to operate a racing team.
I built engines for two close friends in two different divisions. One year both won alot of races at the expense of several engines. It was a great year and we won both championships but i almost lost everything.
Its definitely not as it appears on outward appearance sometimes.
Do a lot of drivers also own the car?referring to Late Models
The best info … in 1992-98 I ran a dirt modified , sucked my bussiness dry of money and time . I basically ate pb&j sandwiches for 6 years straight because my food money went to racing with not enough sponsorship . Went back to go karts . Still love modified dirt cars but prices are crazy . U have been my favorite driver my entire life , love the way u say it like it is . Great info keep rt foot down ,
Reverend Kenny, thank you for preaching the truth to the masses. I raced LMS between 1990 and 2000. We traveled to paved tracks around western Canada. In ten years the largest cash sponsor I had provided me with $5,000.00 a year. We had several sponsors that paid us $250.00 to $1,000.00 for a season. There were also sponsors who provided products to us in exchange for signage on the car and team uniforms. My personal expenditure every season was about $25,000.00 a year. The viewers also need to understand that you need a truck and a trailer. There are also more miles put onto the truck and trailer every year then the race car will ever see. The cost of fuel, maintenance and repair are all on top of the actual at track, running the event expenses, and you need to feed and provide a bed for your crew. The largest payout I ever received was $350.00 for running 9th in a 15-car race with a total purse of $5,000.00. The winner got $1,500. My best night of racing at my home track was winning 2 of the heat races and taking 2nd in the feature. I got $100.00. Doing it for the love or the addiction to the sport is the only reasoning you can put to it and hope that your spouse is understanding or at the extreme, supportive of everything. Having my kids cheer for me is still the biggest thrill. Since racing I have moved into restoring classic cars. I have done 4 builds in the last 20 + years. I miss racing and I have to limit going to my local track or the mistress might come calling.
Always good to hear your insight into Racing
Might want to watch who you say you don’t know what poor is too lmao.
Herman we love you because you tell it true and real, and de- bullshitted (is that a word???)
💯% I’ve been around dirt racing my whole life and you ain’t ever gonna make it without sponsors and a lot of support from everyone around you!!
Really like your style Kenny. No fluff, just facts. Real world stuff delivered with a smile. Great job. Love St. Louis, stay safe and see you on the next video! Thanks!
Man I’m gonna remember this forever! Thanks for the true facts!😄👍
That's why the best drivers are probably not in NASCAR because as long as you can buy your way in via having a sponsor or a rich daddy then you have a ride. The Sat night short trackers with talent around the country don't have a chance because no deep pockets. The talent pool in the top three levels of NASCAR is pretty suspect with a few exceptions.
Kenny Wallace is like the uncle who steps up when your dad is a alcoholic
What are your thoughts on the NextGen56 Camaro that was at the 24 Heures du Le Mans? And should this car with significant modifications be at the 24 Heures du Daytona?
Thank you for laying this out for us. 65 years old and my grandson is starting 270 micro sprints. I can't say no, but damn this shit is expensive! His heart is in it and what can I do! I loved watching you and hope the best for you and your family
Shouldn’t NASCAR have a union for the drivers and pit crew members? NIL mentality for the drivers trickled down to the mechanics etc. So you have to win a lot and get noticed just to make a living but if you don’t, you’re breaking even or in the red. It’s a hard knock life. Doesn’t NASCAR need fans in order to make a lot of money?
Most informative 25 minutes I have ever spent. Thanks Kenny.
Of all of the "Bumper sticker" like phrases I've seen painted on racecars, the best one was BOTH MY WIFE AND BANKER SAY I CAN'T AFFORD THIS.
Kenny I love the way you explain things to all of us. The only thing I’m curious about is how much sponsors pay to be on the cars? I know my local track is 300-1000 if your lucky.
Love the Musial t-shirt. Yes!!! He's still The Man!
As usual ... great content from a guy that knows what he's talking about. Not some guy who "thinks" he knows. Kenny knows because he's lived it!
Great advice in there for young people ... whether they're in racing or not.
Is being homeless sleeping in a homeless shelter with your mom broke? if so I know what broke is lmao
Don't have a clue!,....no truer words ever spoken ,especially today.....😂
Hey, Kenny, I thought you was gonna say it was that TV money that saved you. Maybe it was a strong relationship with Kim that made you save your money, or maybe, just maybe that Schrader dude?