How I lost against DYLIGHTED ?!?!? ⬢ Catan Strategy & Analysis
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ย. 2024
- I BLEW IT!!
This video will analyze 10 Situations throughout my game against DyLighted.
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For situation 6 I would have definitely used the road builder to get to the sheep port. With all of your sheep production this would have helped you build a city on the 8-5-4 and helped in the long run. Awesome video!
Agreed! I wish i had realized this during the game (:
love the vids matata, i still feel bad about that catan championship game where i boned you off placements. But you are a really talented player and editor. Good stuff!
Do not feel bad! haha
Really solid play there. Looking back, I should've actually talked more to the other player and asked him why him getting to the wood port helps his game. In reality it just delays him getting to his specialized port instead.
I am always a fan of creative agreements. Especially if they end with you getting in a stronger position from wheat trades. (:
Fantastic videos, this is second one i watch! Wanted to start watching while drinking cofee, and finish afterwards, because i had to do some work. Haha the work will wait said my brain and i watched it without even pause )
thank you for this comment!! It made my day :D im glad you enjoyed
Great video man... I gotta watch more times to absorb this knowledge
Thanks!! (:
Don't you hate playing an hour+ long game, just to blow it at the end? (:
Comment below your thoughts on some situations presented in this video!
e.g. "Situation 3 - I think the best play would be to ____ because____"
Here are some time stamps (:
Situation 1 - 2:40 Knight vs Road Building
Situation 2 - 5:00 Using a knight to get a settlement
Situation 3 - 7:28 Do we buy devs or HODL?
Situation 4 - 11:42 What do we do with our Year of Plenty?
Situation 5 - 13:23 Do we buy devs or build a city? a road? D:
Situation 6 - 15:08 MONSTER HAND, Road build? YOP? Settle? City? Dev?
Situation 7 - 17:41 Both players trade ION a city for NEXT TO NOTHING!?!? What should I have done to stop this??
Situation 8 - 20:45 Do we buy devs or build a city? PART 2
Situation 9 - 22:50 MONO TIME! Why did I not just BUY OUT THE DEV DECK?!
Situation 10 - 25:26 Who do I block & steal from in order to ensure no one wins before my next turn???
Ending of the Game - 28:19
Final Takeaways - 29:36
Awesome content!
Thanks a lot for this fun and informative vid.
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Situation 4 - plow blue to 63 to fuel wood port, lot more versatility having 8 wood points with port than 15 sheep points and 3:1
Well said. Thank you for recommending 1.25x playback!
I am always a fan of trying to take and keep largest army. As you are more than aware, larmy is easiest to keep if you are the initial player to make it. I normally always try to take army while I can, but I don't disagree with your initial choice to hold off. After all, he clearly invested a LOT into dev cards. So I think it was a good call not to needlessly take larmy and keep the knight for when you needed. I also agree with many others in the comment section that getting that sheep port would've been huge for you. You may have been even able to catch up on the larmy race with it on top of building good cities.
As for your takeaways, point three is great, but with how Gordie settled at the beginning, it may not have been possible/helpful for you to settle. You'd either have to early on help him to the wheat port OR allow him to take an extra spot on the 5 ore. The third option would be to help him to the 8-3. I think all of these options would have been difficult/expensive for you to try to help red in order to even the board, but I think that red being stuck was simply a product of how all players placed.
As to your other takeaways, totally agree and have been frustrated with players offering terrible deals to get a card. With some seemingly inexperienced players literally offering a dev card for a brick (would've taken the trade of course, but I didn't have any brick). His purpose was to build a settlement, which he did, but gave away a dev card to do it. I play on Colonist, and could not type fast enough to stop the deal.
I am not the most experienced player, but yeah, have really struggled closing out close end games. When you track cards, do you do it from memory? I've been thinking of using a notebook, but perhaps that's too sweaty, lol. Thanks for posting and encouraging good discourse.
Thanks for the comment! Love your thoughts and ideas.
To answer your question about tracking, I started small by either only tracking one type of resource or only 1 player's cards.
Great content
Thank you!
Situation 6: I'm not an experienced player but I would totally go RB and the sheep harbor, with 5 sheep left in your hand, that's basically a YOP and you have another YOP. Super flexible hand
I agree with you!! I wish i had given it more thought during the game
Oh crap i forgot about this game. I don't know what that noob blue was thinking when he gave up LR. He should learn how to play.
Jokes aside, great video man!
XD haha thanks man!
Awesome content.
Thanks for the video n.n
Thanks for the nice comment! :D
During the settlement negotiation at 14:xx, Gordie should tell you that you can settle on the 4 grain instead. He should tell you that if you settle on the 8/3, he will feed all of his cards to DyLighted, your strongest opponent, which makes it so nobody but him can win. Then you have no leverage because you recognize he has no incentive *not* to do this after you plow him since he's unable to win.
In Gordie's shoes, I think the theoretically optimal play is not to help you at all, since you, as an optimal player, will recognize how bad it is for you to settle on 8/3. The more exploitative play is to make a future non-binding agreement with you so that he helps you settle now but you also must give him 3 lumber and brick so he can get his own settlement spot as quickly as possible on 8/3. This non-binding agreement has potential to get scammed though, and so long as you don't settle on 8/3, red still isn't indifferent between actually trying to win and kingmaking yellow, so his threat holds less theoretical weight.
It actually shocks me that players who have no chance to win at all don't always in every circumstance do everything in their power to ensure that the player who screwed them the most can't win. In this case it's you and my entire game would have been dedicated to making it so you can't win anymore.
First position had a tough game. Is there anything you would have done differently. What would you have picked from first position?
I think 1st positions picks are fine.
8-5-10 would be my first pick followed by either 8-10, 3-for-1 port or the 9-10, wheat port. I think early in the game, Red needed to be less greedy with their trades for wood and brick ... to avoid being cut off. It is tough in their position because all of their expansion spots are contested with the exception of the 5 ore, which I was able to take away with a lucky road building.
If Gordie was concerned about his ability to expand, one tactic that could be used would be to make an agreement with Dylighted early in the game... Red could say that he would not take the 9-10 spot (Dylighted's ONLY port option) in order to get future trades of sheep/wheat for wood/brick. Red has surplus wheat and sheep while Dylighted has surplus brick and wood. I think Dylighted would have agreed.
Lastly, once I play the road building, Red should be asking me ways of giving me trades if I leave him the 8-3 open. His game is finished once he is locked out of settlement spots and I believe he could've done a bit more to get the other 3 players to help him not become a dead player.
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Thanks for the reply. I think another way of posing the question is can a first position OWS player survive with three other players being strong WB and being locked out of WB. I think the answer is not likely because you get swarmed. I am wondering, counterintuitively, whether the best pick would have been 659. I say counterintuitive because you take the rarest resource typically at 1st position, ESPECIALLY when it's ore. I think this illustrates one of Dylighted's concepts that OWS needs proper balance or it's a death trap.
What was your strategy with your two starting placements? If you hadn't gotten the road builder, you would've missed out on the 5 ore and been even further from winning. Did you consider the 8/5/10 + 6/3/11? I doubt anyone takes the 4/11 brick port, and whoever starts on the 8/3/4 would need a lot of luck/skill to beat you to the port. By taking the 6/3/11, you lock blue out of all good brick production and you have a path to connecting for longest road
I like this idea!
For number 5 I would buy the devs. If Gordie is holding all knights you have a good chance to pull non-knights which are all good for you. If Gordie doesn't have knights then you can still fight for army. Number 6 I don't know. There are so many good options but I think I would choose between rb for double settle on 8/3 and 4, or buy dev, see what you get and then either buy one more, or yop for two more. Searching for VP and mono
Thanks for the comment! I like these ideas. So many options here and so little time in game for me to figure out what I wanted to do. I think you're right about just buying more development cards throughout the game. My production was great, so I could have eliminated the deck far quicker if I wanted to.
24:30 Why not mono the wood? You had the wood port
this is funny to watch blue get called i-on when his name is Ionuţ, a romanian name lol
Ooops, i am guilty of it haha
Honestly couldn't fault any of your descisions
I disagree with your "balance the game" takeaway. Most simply, if someone has zero chance of winning, you've moved your odds from 1/4 to 1/3, which is a huge increase in likelihood.
There are occasions when this doesn't hold. Say, when them actively trading suits you more than others. Also if you're the reason they have zero chance they may seek retribution.
But in general, you don't want another person seeking the win.
i like your table talk, you always use "probably". I probably gonna play knight and steal. I probably will go to 8-4 and plow you. What is the difference from ur opinion between "I will plow you", "i'm probably gonna plow you"