T-600 didn't know it was John connor, and the T-600 wasn't armed how could he kill John? shooting with your finger? and being thrown at 4 meters is not trying to kill so it must be caress.
@@strayk9 I was being sarcastic. And you're wrong. Every machine is connected to Skynet which confirms target. It's the case of the buzz drones which identified Kyle Reese in the chase.
Skynet: You're an idiot 600, an absolute goddamn idiot. This is why I'm phasing these things out for the 800s. Objective Added: Proceed with Self-Termination On another note, I wonder if it's the same terminator the helicopter landed on. Seeing how it withstood the chaingun for a bit, a few rifle rounds might not have killed it. Would've been funny if that got it's circuits in a jumble.
@@victorm152Salvation is a god damned masterpiece compared to the last 2 terminator films. And Cameron was even the producer of the last one. It just proves how badly he's lost his touch.
@@godofawesum223 not really...he was producer what he can say about it is limited compared to when he was a director. It's not even his main project. I think they just used him to get fans excited.
@@howdoichangemyusername9802 So John should have died regardless of the fact that he's crucial to the main story? Plot armor happens in all fiction, thats why its called fiction. If movies killed off main characters easy for the sake of realism then what would be the point of even making movies or cultivating stories? I can think of a hundred other movies where the main character survives an event that they wouldn't be able to in reality. All main characters have plot armor so according to you all movies/stories suffer from bad writing.
@@alucardofromania9844 I’m saying that being the main character should not be the reason for surviving. If a villains actions solely change for the fact that it’s a main character, then it’s clear you can’t write properly. Terminators are suppose to know practically every way to kill humans with their hands, so they decide to throw them? Instead of the T-600 throwing Connor, how about he hears it coming and dodges a fatal blow. Like in the next scene, John stops a blow using his legs. This is better because A. It slightly displays Connor’s skill and why he’s survived in this war B. Still makes the Terminator seem dangerous because it was constantly going for a lethal move instead of throwing Connor around because Dark Fate didn’t happen yet.
@@etgha It's called not being a cynical asshole about every movie you see. People these days over criticize movies and expect everything about a movie to be perfect. It's extremely pretentious.
@@Wifgargfhaurhoh man i know why its not the ideal movie but its so much better than what we get recently in these years. I really liked the post apocalypse touch what no other movie did so far... and unless u checked out what terminator 3 was supposed to be but got trashed its basically arnold and kid in the future where war already happened trying to inflitrate or something
@@FP194 The T-600. Capable of lifting 5 times it's own weight, and punching through concrete. The T-600, while behind him with the element of surprise could've knocked him out, cut his neck, broke his neck, pierced his brain, broke his knee, anything. Nope. It's called 'plot armor' to make a fight scene more enjoyable. He throws him barely to the side. Why not read the 20 other comments making the same joke or are you void of a brain?
I love how before Dark Fate came out; everyone hated Salvation. But now that it’s out, Salvation is being praised. This is just like what happened to the Star Wars Prequels.
And both sides have the groups that liked the movies from the start and are like: "you could not live with hollywood's failure, and where did that bring you... back to me.
When Genisys came out people liked this film more I think. Dark Fate just sealed the coffin because they tried to remake the first two Terminator films 3 times and it just didn't work anymore. I think the problem is that Salvation doesn't feel like a Terminator film. T1 and T2 are intimate stories in the middle of larger battle over the fate of the world. T1 is a love story and T2 is a father son story. Salvation has some interesting moments, and if it has some rewrites it could've been better, but overall it doesn't have such an intimate story. The other issue is that these movies kept getting complicated and convoluted so any of the human relationships are ignored as you're focusing on how the plot makes no sense.
I mean, really...there's no way a machine that small could be that strong anyway. Humans are squishy, but we can actually handle a lot. No human-sized machine (unless it's made out of impossible supermaterials that physically cannot ever exist) could ever be so much stronger than a human that it would be that easy to kill us. The strongest human-sized machine could maybe be slightly stronger than a champion body-builder/athlete. And breaking someone's neck is not like it is in the movies. It's extremely difficult to do bare-handed even for the strongest and most skilled martial artists. It's more just an inconsistency of the movies than a plot hole.
@@DoremiFasolatido1979 The only limiter is the energy source. If the terminator is made of anything as durable or more durable than steel, it can use its actuators to easily break bones, shear or rip flesh, because it does not have to take care to damage itself. A simple hit by its arm or leg would probably enough, due to the mass and resulting force alone. If you can bash in a human skull with a baseball bat, a terminator can easily do it "bare handed". Or compare it to simple handheld power tools and the damage you can do with them, even the battery powered ones.
As time goes by this movie only gets more better in my eyes. It did not recycle the same plot at least and did so much good but .........we failed it too
No, just as more time passes the good parts of the movie is all you remember. Everything with John Connor was good, too bad most of the movie was about the other guy.
This film went in interesting directions when it came to the Terminators. This took place long before the war we had seen in 2029, when Humanity was still using bullets and missiles against the vulnerable T-600 models, Terminators which had outdated servomotors when compared to the T-800 and made a lot of deep mechanical whirring noises when they moved. This served to make them more menacing.
I think it was a good movie, could have been great, but being good should have been enough. It deserved a sequel. It deserved it's own trilogy. I think the weaponry that humanity still has at this point makes a lot of sense. A-10's, Hueys, manpads, ATGMs, at least one nuclear submarine, and militarized versions of civilian vehicles and aircraft.
@@22steve5150Originally it was supposed to be a sequel, but the company that made this movie went bankrupt (due to low box office sales) and had to sell the franchise to another company which later made genesis.
Wish we had more terminator movies like this. No time travel, no terminator protectors, no new and outlandish terminator models, just the war. I’ll even dare say it was a pretty cool decision to go with an age where the terminators weren’t bulletproof. Humanity is still using bullets, but the machines still aren’t cannon fodder. Personally I want more action with the T-600, but we all know what everybody else wants. A terminator war movie between humanity and the T-800 era machines, with plasma weapon and fields of skulls just like in T2’s deleted scene. Edit: Thank you SO much for the likes and comments!!!
Yes. Only problem this movie had was that the story was focused too heavily on Marcus Wright. John was like a secondary character. If the film had had more scenes like this one and been more focused on battles between the resistance and the terminators this film would have been one of the best Terminator movies ever made. It was just bad writing. I know Marcus Wright was supposed to be like the perfect infiltrator and all, but i think the movie just focused on his story too much.
@@245-TRIOXIN Personally i think they did right. When you see the setting of this movie, you can tell the people behind it wanted a saga in the war against the machines. You can tell this because this movie is based when humans and Terminators still used fire guns and not energy based ones. With that said, they clearly had in mind Marcus saving John from the start, hence why we get a lot of development from him and John. Personally i liked the whole concept of his Terminator and it really tied up well in the plot. In my opinion, it would have been kinda lame that we saw Marcus giving his life for John, if he did not had enough scenes as the ones he got in this movie. The impact on the story and in John Connor itself would have not been as big. Marcus arc ended very well, with him giving his life and a second chance to John, and in return getting what he always wanted, wich was death. I understand that a lot of people got dissapointed with Salvation because it was not what they expected. Most of the people wanted a film set around 2024 or so and fully focused on John and the resistance, wich is completly understandable. Still, Salvation did what Rise of the Machines did not. It gave us something totally new and fresh. A different plot from the whole Terminator vs Protector thing. It gave us the war against the machines and it also showcased a big number of new and cool Terminators, something that any good fan would appreciate. Also lets not forget about the amazing cast on Kyle Reese, and the fight with the T-800 was simply brilliant. This movie could have been much more, true, but you can tell they wanted to expand the story in order to make a full saga out of this. Still, in my opinion, Salvation is my 3rd favourite Terminator movie. And now that Dark Fate is out, a lot of people is finding out that this movie is unique on its own.
@@warchiefvenomn7612 Its still possible to have a Salvation sequel, despite audience have to acknowledge that it is clearly set in a different world, like Blade Runner 2049.
@@245-TRIOXIN it seems this way because the original script for this movie was supposed to have Marcus REPLACING John Connor after he dies at the end of the movie by transplanting his face on Marcus. He would be the one who survives to the end and won the war against the machines. Which kind of makes sense as Marcus would be harder to kill as being a cyborg would not attract Terminators focus. But test screen audiences hated that plot so it was re-wrote and we got this instead that's why the movie seems so focused on Marcus
@@M0butu also with the force throws him with and the objects he hits he should realistically be in to much pain to move or have several broken or fractured bones
I never hated this movie, myself. It's got a shit load of problems, but I liked some things in it, too. Out of all the bad Terminator movies, Salvation had the most potential. I still think a post-Judgement Day setting could be really great. Not sure why we can't give it another go if we apparently still feel like making Terminator movies, for whatever reason.
I disagree. The terminators in T1 and T2 were very hard to take down. That's why they used phased plasma rifles in all the future war scenes. Here, John Connor is equipped with a rifle that shoots 5.56 NATO rounds - a veritable pea shooter when compared to what the terminators are built to withstand.
@@sergey_is_sergey These are T-600s though, it wouldnt be a surprise if they are weaker than T-800. Also in T2 Arnold shows that the primary CPU is in the head, so shoot it enough times in the head close range through the eyes you could damage it and possibly take it offline at least temporarily.
@@sergey_is_sergey It is kinda odd that they would put the CPU in the head though like a human weakness, they could have hidden it deep inside the chassis somewhere. I guess Skynet wasnt THAT smart :D
That's the point of the terminators.. to be more human like and INFILTRATE humanity's resistance army and kill them sooooo..... The fact that you'll never know your closest friend is a human machine hybrid until he skynet initiates order 66 is the true nightmare 🤔
@terrorgang archives literally everyone freaks out when they drown. Even people who have mental problems and don't feel fear still freaks out when they're drowning.
if you noticed, a good detail is that once he penetrated the left upper side of its skull it immediately stopped functioning, like we saw in terminator 2, the processor chip for the T-800 is located in the upper left region of the skull, which most likely means its in the same place as the T-600
They should have redundant chips in the chest cavity. Or just make the brain deep in the chest, under like super thick adamantium type shit. Also I'm not sure if bipedal legs are the best form of locomotion for non-infiltration terminators. I think arms and hands are great though. hands especially are a work of art, one of nature's greatest adaptations, so definitely a good idea for a killer robot. With a hand you can have all sorts of weapons, bladed, bludgeon, ranged, etc.
T-600 didn't know it was John connor, and the T-600 wasn't armed how could he kill John? shooting with your finger? and being thrown at 4 meters is not trying to kill so it must be caress.
@@strayk9 Correction, it wasn't unarmed, but unlegged. Also, ahhahahaah ha, I'm sorry for laughing but there's some serious irony(no pun intended) in saying that a *terminator* is unarmed. Built for war, named after death; It's a terminator, it by itself, *_is_* a weapon and you can bet your country that it can kill you armed or not. But to be more exact, even without legs, a stable base, it was strong enough to send Connor flying. It can certainly crush bones by grip strength alone. And Connor himself couldn't have done anything to it without getting to the mounted gun which it helped him do by throwing him.
It’s the classic trope of the immortal protagonist. Since time immemorial the lead character has carried the plot through thick and thin that would kill lesser important characters. Could you imagine if it was otherwise. In a scene full of so much ludicrous stuff it’s not hard to ask the audience for one more suspension of belief.
William Terminator 1 when he throws Matt around, Terminator 2 when the T-1000 throws the T-800 instead of just killing him and getting it over with, T-X throwing the T-850 around, etc.
I basically have a pneumatic vice for a hand. So I'll use that immense gripping force to grab him by his clothes and throw him around a few times. That'll show him.
T-600 didn't know it was John connor, and the T-600 wasn't armed how could he kill John? shooting with your finger? and being thrown at 4 meters is not trying to kill so it must be caress.
The first one was not bad. The terminator was legless, it had no chance of catching him upright, so it threw him to the ground. The second one, I fully agree.
@@TheJoker-cm5mf scratched off because this movie initially received poor reviews. They were counting on people to actually like this movie on release to be able to continue the follow-up movies.
I loved seeing the T-600s. They were huge, bulky, and terrifying. My only gripe was how their first instinct was to just grab and throw someone, lol. Even the T-800 from the third act did the same.
@@Asertix357exactly that’s what this is a call back to but fans want to forget that shiiii right Right RIIIiGHT!!!! Ugh 😑 And it’s not like the terminator t800 RIP did infect damage on John it sure did with a scar on the face and a metal rod throw the chest which almost killed John now try saying that about the what if garbage films that came after this hmm? 🤨
@@RandomPerson-xo6yn It was like how old computers are much bigger than today's computers. The T600 has primitive intelligence, slower, and bulky compared to the T800 later in the movie.
T800 maybe technically more superior to the T600, but the T600 looks more scarier and menacing than the T800, heck! it's even more bigger than the T800!
Yeah, yeah ... not only polite, but quiet also, since it must crawled towards him from somewhere, since it wasn't there when John crawled the same way few seconds before.
and is pretty terrible at that. Alongside with being boring and having awful plot that leads nowhere. The only good thing about this pile of trash is cast
Not to be rude, but Genisys wasn't that bad nor was it the best, but I still like Terminator, T2, T3, and Terminator salvation a little better than Genisys, but Terminator Dark Fate is a piece of garbage that should have never been made.
haha is this the movie that old meme yelling session was from? Anyways I really like the idea of Bale playing John Connor, and I think this movie had potential - feels like the start of the kind of trilogy where the 1st movie is a bit off but decent, the 2nd is the critical darling, and the 3rd is good but falls off a bit from the 2nd. IDK lol I'm probably just thinking of Batman because of Bale, but still.@@pilotwhaleproductions5880
Salvation was the one film that had the best modern presentation of Terminators. Both as puppets and CGI. Really unfortunate that nobody took notes for their future films.
0:00-1:49 this isn’t a one take scene. I think there are some hidden cuts and camera angles changes. But you gonna say this is some truly amazing camera work from the director. Underrated movie
It's technically impressive but doesn't really make the scene inherently better. I didn't even notice until I read this comment. Most people don't notice. I personally found it a little disorienting.
Yup, unlike Dark Fate which just shat on him and replaced him with some random other person to fulfill the exact same role except being less believable as a badass and a leader.
This movie's got amazing sound production. The sounds of the terminator is downright nightmare fodder. It's so fucking cool at the same time! The sound of the T-600 moving is actually modded sounds of high pressure crushing of metal.
See, this is how you make a terminator threatening. The t-600 is constantly after him, and before he gets to the lmg, it’s clear John can do nothing to effectively attack it. In modern movies, they make the terminator a punching bag - while this one, an older model, manages to come pretty damn close to killing John Connor WITHOUT LEGS.
Each of them also planned as a trilogy they immediatly scrapped. They should have stuck to their guns and made a sequel to this one, I would much rather have that.
When I was a kid, I was legit scared of skeletons. Imagine seeing a metal skeleton grab someone from the back and throw them while emmiting such sounds. I knew it was a movie, but still I had nightmares. Nostalgia moment
That's apparently how Cameron got the idea. He had a dream/nightmare about a metal skeleton with glowing eyes crawling towards him while holding a knife.
People who hated this movie on release but come crawling back after dark fate: "You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me."
This is the best Terminator film since T2, hands down. I loved the casting, the story, the visuals, the sound, everything about this film. I thought it was great and it showed a post-Judgement Day future the most convincingly.
@@Mrvanderspank I agree, I think it undermines the tension to have the result being thrown, if they just left it at "this thing is really tough don't let it touch you" the tension might be higher, I like the part where he catches the arm with his leg, kinda a human leg v terminator arm moment, I think that contact is fine
As one who grew up watching the heck out of Terminator 1 and 2 a billion times on VHS, I freaking loved Salvation! I didn't even know that it was considered "hated" until years later XD
I love Salvation. The whole time traveling back to protect John got old and it was great to finally see the future in more detail we kept hearing about. Probably my 3rd favorite Terminator film.
Always believed it was the T-700 in this scene...kinda difficult to tell them apart at times. When they announced a 5th Terminator project I was hoping it would be a continuation of the future war. Arnold didn't need to come back for the recent films in my opinion maybe a cameo as a human prisoner used by Skynet to replicate human tissue would have been justified.
Was never even in the film, it was poor CG, and that's impossible, its a 600 model, 700s were skipped and this is the time they produced the first 800s.
@@Tommy92gunner There are actually quite a few T-700 Endos later in the film. The on-screen version was identical in appearance to the T-800 but was made of Titanium-Steel rather than Hyperalloy. The concept art version was very much a hybrid of the T-600 and T-800. The concept art version was never seen in the film or video game. And the film version was referred to in dialogue as T-800s lol. So in a way you're correct.
They did at in my hometown 1 room theater. Town’s people voted for it on for throwback week. It’s so awesome on the big screen. This was back in January 2022
Shame this fight sequence was only thirty seconds. Should have been longer. Most CG animation has a very floaty feel to it but they did a great job with giving the T-600 some real weight and heft. It feels very ironpunk, like Tony Stark's first iron man suit, and feels like it's actually there on set. The other films could have learned a lot from this one.
1:54 Oh, oh, oh, glorious practical effects. Real Terminators... all thanks to the late Stan Winston... whose legacy has now been pissed on. RIP Stan Winston. The Man.
I agree. I just didn't like how the story was focused on the Marcus Wright character. Should have been more focused on battles/war between the resistance and the Terminators.
Terminator: Salvation was a really good movie. I liked how the terminators were so animated and audible. The mechanical sounds that they make when they are in motion is terrifyingly unnerving. They had a trilogy planned for this film. Had they went through with it, I honestly believe that they would've done the Terminator franchise justice...and proper closure.
Agree. I just wish the story wasn't so heavily focused on Marcus Wright. I liked the idea of him being like some sort of perfect infiltrator, but it just seemed like it was his story and not much else. If we'd had more scenes like this one and the story was more focused on the battles between the resistance and the terminators this might have been regarded as one of the best.
Imagine being in his situation, being thrown around by some massive robotic killing machine. It tosses you to the ground and crawls towards you, just barely stopped by your foot against it's arm, and then... 1:56 _It laughs._
I don't think that was a laugh, I that was the sound its arm was making from John forcing it back with his leg. This T-600 acts and sounds like it was almost ready for the junk yard whether John had dusted it with the M60 or not. By this point it was a toaster that had two arms and head.
Anyone notice how the terminator lets out a creepy laugh at 1:55 as john puts his foot up to hold its arm back and draws his pistol. Always thought that they got the sound affects spot on in this, and the laugh just adds more layers of creepyness
I think all that was it's gears and joints grinding hard as heck, because one key thing the T800 has over the T-600 here is the T-800 having magnetic joints.
This movie wasn't that bad. I was like 12 or 13 when it came out and I thought it was a breath of fresh air for the terminator franchise. All my life I wanted a movie post-judgement day and this totally satisfied that desire. I dont get why people hate on this movie. It's bad ass and way better than the last 2 we got.
I mean this isnt the first time a Terminator wasted an opportunity to kill remember in T2: Judgement Day when the T 1000 stabbed Sara but instead of killing her he tried getting her to call John despite literally minutes later transform a into Sara (who is alive for some reason everyone else he copied is dead) himself and calls out to John
@@rusty7984 It's subtle. The T-1000 realizes it's not entirely convincing and that a human can tell when it's imitating a human. For instance, when he took the form of John's foster mom, John immediately realized something wasn't right, and figured it out. Thus getting Sarah to do it is more convincing. The T-1000 has a very surface level understanding of human society. He takes the form of a police officer, thinking it will make John trust him, not knowing that John doesn't trust the police. He was about to kill Sarah too, but the T-800 stopped him.
I really liked this portrait of the first stages of the future war, where conventional ammo could damage the first versions of the machines. They should 've continued from here, after the t800 started to be produced
I remeber when I watched the movie back in 2010 and I liked it a lot although it was different than what we were used to in Terminator movies. The idea of having older models being used and generally the excellent sound design (modern robotic machine sounds) were great Now I see that I had good reason to like it as many have changed their opinion about it.
I just want to say, the comments in these videos are just the best. You guys always notice things that I seem to miss, and it just adds so much more when I re-watch for it.
Nearlydead Idk how you could not. It’s literally the biggest plot device in the series. They write themselves into a corners whenever a terminator gets within arms reach. “Well, the terminator got a hold of him now, what should he do to him in this scene?” “Well we can’t have the main character die yet, just make the terminator throw him”
@@marioss2167 he doesn't have to kill all the time, he didn't kill the punk that gave him his clothes in the first one either, though he killed his buddies. That's different from this scene, where the terminator has an order to kill humans on sight yet he throws him around.
The T-600 just grabs his shoulder so nicely, instead of breaking his neck in two which it could EASILY do; now that’s some titanium reinforced plot armour Mr Connor.
Even though Terminator Salvation is my 3rd favorite Terminator movie, despite its flaws, but that "throwmenator" joke is funny and valid. I get a kick out of it, cause as much as I love this movie, that is funny, because it's true.
@@DrumCoversFromHell Well I mean, Matt wasn't really his primary target, so it really didn't matter if he killed him or not. John Connor however is the main threat to Skynet, yet every time they got their hands on him, they tossed him around instead of impaling him with their fists. If I took a shot every time a Terminator threw Connor around in Salvation, I'd be drunk. LOL
I love how the shot goes on for nearly 2 minutes straight, yeah a lot of digital manipulation used to make it appear that way but it's an insane level of commitment done by the director to give it this very visceral war-like appeal. Crazy to believe the 2nd best director (my opinion) of the Terminator franchise was the guy behind Charlie's Angels, and that Netflix Babysitter movie.
This one scene alone was better than the whole Dark Fate and Genisys movies combined. The visual effects alone put those movies to shame despite being a decade or not older
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T-600: Primary directive added. Throw John Connor. Secondary directive: steal boot.
T-600 didn't know it was John connor, and the T-600 wasn't armed how could he kill John? shooting with your finger? and being thrown at 4 meters is not trying to kill so it must be caress.
@@strayk9 I was being sarcastic.
And you're wrong. Every machine is connected to Skynet which confirms target. It's the case of the buzz drones which identified Kyle Reese in the chase.
Skynet: You're an idiot 600, an absolute goddamn idiot. This is why I'm phasing these things out for the 800s.
Objective Added: Proceed with Self-Termination
On another note, I wonder if it's the same terminator the helicopter landed on. Seeing how it withstood the chaingun for a bit, a few rifle rounds might not have killed it.
Would've been funny if that got it's circuits in a jumble.
@@strayk9 he could've break John's neck at the very least.
@@strayk9 SkyNet loves tormenting John Connor, but clearly it doesn't have the guts to go through with killing him.
Salvation was ALMOST the perfect thing the franchise needed. No time travel, no "protector and terminator". Just the WAR we waited for so long.
.......and boy how they screwed it up
@@nickcool0147 I wouldn't of had what's his name as John connor
@@victorm152Salvation is a god damned masterpiece compared to the last 2 terminator films. And Cameron was even the producer of the last one. It just proves how badly he's lost his touch.
@@godofawesum223 not really...he was producer what he can say about it is limited compared to when he was a director. It's not even his main project. I think they just used him to get fans excited.
@vin 950 absolutely
Ahhh the old throw them away move instead of just punching his liver into another state.... Love it.
exactly
Well its John Connor. If he had been any other character in the movie the T-600 would have smashed his skull into silly putty.
@@alucardofromania9844 if your excuse for a character surviving is because they have plot armor, than that’s precedence for bad writing.
@@howdoichangemyusername9802 So John should have died regardless of the fact that he's crucial to the main story? Plot armor happens in all fiction, thats why its called fiction. If movies killed off main characters easy for the sake of realism then what would be the point of even making movies or cultivating stories? I can think of a hundred other movies where the main character survives an event that they wouldn't be able to in reality. All main characters have plot armor so according to you all movies/stories suffer from bad writing.
@@alucardofromania9844 I’m saying that being the main character should not be the reason for surviving. If a villains actions solely change for the fact that it’s a main character, then it’s clear you can’t write properly. Terminators are suppose to know practically every way to kill humans with their hands, so they decide to throw them?
Instead of the T-600 throwing Connor, how about he hears it coming and dodges a fatal blow. Like in the next scene, John stops a blow using his legs. This is better because
A. It slightly displays Connor’s skill and why he’s survived in this war
B. Still makes the Terminator seem dangerous because it was constantly going for a lethal move instead of throwing Connor around because Dark Fate didn’t happen yet.
My biggest flex: I never hated Salvation in the first place and in fact was terrified by how realistic a Terminator war would be like
How do you do it
@@etgha It's called not being a cynical asshole about every movie you see. People these days over criticize movies and expect everything about a movie to be perfect. It's extremely pretentious.
@@Wifgargfhaurhoh man i know why its not the ideal movie but its so much better than what we get recently in these years.
I really liked the post apocalypse touch what no other movie did so far... and unless u checked out what terminator 3 was supposed to be but got trashed its basically arnold and kid in the future where war already happened trying to inflitrate or something
@@coffe2gobut... in this future with no lasers?
It's called living happy and it's beautiful
"We have detailed data on human anatomy to kill them more efficiently."
"Better throw him around first"
Only T-800 or 850 has that
Call of duty has you surviving plane and helicopter crashes.
@ThatPurpleFunk lot of people survive such incident、even more common in military。i never crash before but we know exactly what do if somehow we crash。
You realize the terminator can only crawl and needed to knock him down to get to a vital point to kill him or are you void of common sense
@@FP194 The T-600. Capable of lifting 5 times it's own weight, and punching through concrete. The T-600, while behind him with the element of surprise could've knocked him out, cut his neck, broke his neck, pierced his brain, broke his knee, anything. Nope. It's called 'plot armor' to make a fight scene more enjoyable.
He throws him barely to the side. Why not read the 20 other comments making the same joke or are you void of a brain?
I love how before Dark Fate came out; everyone hated Salvation. But now that it’s out, Salvation is being praised. This is just like what happened to the Star Wars Prequels.
And both sides have the groups that liked the movies from the start and are like: "you could not live with hollywood's failure, and where did that bring you... back to me.
@@jblockman_59nunyabidnis68 That would be me... On both Star Wars and Terminator. LOL.
I never hated salvation. Maybe because i was too young. But i never had a problem with thismovie and still don’t
When Genisys came out people liked this film more I think. Dark Fate just sealed the coffin because they tried to remake the first two Terminator films 3 times and it just didn't work anymore.
I think the problem is that Salvation doesn't feel like a Terminator film. T1 and T2 are intimate stories in the middle of larger battle over the fate of the world. T1 is a love story and T2 is a father son story. Salvation has some interesting moments, and if it has some rewrites it could've been better, but overall it doesn't have such an intimate story. The other issue is that these movies kept getting complicated and convoluted so any of the human relationships are ignored as you're focusing on how the plot makes no sense.
when it comes to movies, people don't know what they want to enjoy.
T-600 grabs his shoulder like, "Excuse me, John Connor? Could I have a word?"
To talk about our lord and savior Skynet?
@@coryboy345 It's even funnier because I too shoot that kind of person in the face repeatedly with a handgun and then leg it.
@@coryboy345 *fires machine gun*
Exactly, and look just how fast it kills a man
m.th-cam.com/video/VFOt0wuJmj0/w-d-xo.html
@@coryboy345 or the extended warranty on your T-600
I like how it could’ve just snapped his neck when It surprised him but was nice enough to toss him around so as to not damage his plot armor
"Plot armors are TIGHT!"
Snap his neck?That thing could’ve ripped his head off easily.
I mean, really...there's no way a machine that small could be that strong anyway. Humans are squishy, but we can actually handle a lot. No human-sized machine (unless it's made out of impossible supermaterials that physically cannot ever exist) could ever be so much stronger than a human that it would be that easy to kill us. The strongest human-sized machine could maybe be slightly stronger than a champion body-builder/athlete. And breaking someone's neck is not like it is in the movies. It's extremely difficult to do bare-handed even for the strongest and most skilled martial artists.
It's more just an inconsistency of the movies than a plot hole.
@@DoremiFasolatido1979 Facts. The programming in the T-600 could be incredibly limited as well.
@@DoremiFasolatido1979 The only limiter is the energy source. If the terminator is made of anything as durable or more durable than steel, it can use its actuators to easily break bones, shear or rip flesh, because it does not have to take care to damage itself. A simple hit by its arm or leg would probably enough, due to the mass and resulting force alone. If you can bash in a human skull with a baseball bat, a terminator can easily do it "bare handed". Or compare it to simple handheld power tools and the damage you can do with them, even the battery powered ones.
As time goes by this movie only gets more better in my eyes. It did not recycle the same plot at least and did so much good but .........we failed it too
much like you people do with alot of movies
@JayMane agree
@@jonmarsh7914 so true.
No, just as more time passes the good parts of the movie is all you remember. Everything with John Connor was good, too bad most of the movie was about the other guy.
@Boba Fett I've always liked the first half. I just didn't like Helen Bonham Carter and future government scenes.
This film went in interesting directions when it came to the Terminators. This took place long before the war we had seen in 2029, when Humanity was still using bullets and missiles against the vulnerable T-600 models, Terminators which had outdated servomotors when compared to the T-800 and made a lot of deep mechanical whirring noises when they moved. This served to make them more menacing.
Especially emphasis on the war part more or less
Which sucks cuz I actually enjoyed this vs the rest of the series
I think it was a good movie, could have been great, but being good should have been enough. It deserved a sequel. It deserved it's own trilogy.
I think the weaponry that humanity still has at this point makes a lot of sense. A-10's, Hueys, manpads, ATGMs, at least one nuclear submarine, and militarized versions of civilian vehicles and aircraft.
@@22steve5150Originally it was supposed to be a sequel, but the company that made this movie went bankrupt (due to low box office sales) and had to sell the franchise to another company which later made genesis.
The t 800 used a metal skeleton and living tissue on the outside.
This movie made Terminators look really scary and brutal.
Like the original
The original did just that without throwing everyone everywhere lmao
@@The_Caledonian Yeah the first one liked to bitch slap people instead
@T-800 alright, how many times compared did the original throw the main character(s) around?
@@The_Caledonian Yet he bitch slapped everyone he saw rather than going for the kill. So your argument isnt valid.
The best part of this movie is that it both actively works as a sequel, AND a prequel, to T1
not really. it totally changes the canon and feel of the movies. its like a separate entity entirely
@@SmokesKwazukii no it doesn't?
@@-_deploy_-it does
@@mkan5944doesn't the war was in the early stages as shown in the film the 800s were a
prototypes hence it makes sense for the 600s to be used
@@iaminpain8407 it makes sense but the feel is just different idk just my opinion 🤷♂️
Wish we had more terminator movies like this. No time travel, no terminator protectors, no new and outlandish terminator models, just the war. I’ll even dare say it was a pretty cool decision to go with an age where the terminators weren’t bulletproof. Humanity is still using bullets, but the machines still aren’t cannon fodder. Personally I want more action with the T-600, but we all know what everybody else wants. A terminator war movie between humanity and the T-800 era machines, with plasma weapon and fields of skulls just like in T2’s deleted scene.
Edit: Thank you SO much for the likes and comments!!!
We can only hope my friend
That’s what what I would do if I directed the terminator films
first scene from terminator 5 extended into two more movies. Perfection.
then it would not be a terminator movie
@@OmegaKingHyperionPX9 why not? Future war with the machines sounds awesome.
Terminator fans rewatching salvation again after seeing dark fate: perhaps I treated you too harshly
Yes. Only problem this movie had was that the story was focused too heavily on Marcus Wright. John was like a secondary character. If the film had had more scenes like this one and been more focused on battles between the resistance and the terminators this film would have been one of the best Terminator movies ever made. It was just bad writing. I know Marcus Wright was supposed to be like the perfect infiltrator and all, but i think the movie just focused on his story too much.
@@245-TRIOXIN
Personally i think they did right. When you see the setting of this movie, you can tell the people behind it wanted a saga in the war against the machines. You can tell this because this movie is based when humans and Terminators still used fire guns and not energy based ones.
With that said, they clearly had in mind Marcus saving John from the start, hence why we get a lot of development from him and John. Personally i liked the whole concept of his Terminator and it really tied up well in the plot. In my opinion, it would have been kinda lame that we saw Marcus giving his life for John, if he did not had enough scenes as the ones he got in this movie. The impact on the story and in John Connor itself would have not been as big. Marcus arc ended very well, with him giving his life and a second chance to John, and in return getting what he always wanted, wich was death.
I understand that a lot of people got dissapointed with Salvation because it was not what they expected. Most of the people wanted a film set around 2024 or so and fully focused on John and the resistance, wich is completly understandable. Still, Salvation did what Rise of the Machines did not. It gave us something totally new and fresh. A different plot from the whole Terminator vs Protector thing. It gave us the war against the machines and it also showcased a big number of new and cool Terminators, something that any good fan would appreciate. Also lets not forget about the amazing cast on Kyle Reese, and the fight with the T-800 was simply brilliant. This movie could have been much more, true, but you can tell they wanted to expand the story in order to make a full saga out of this. Still, in my opinion, Salvation is my 3rd favourite Terminator movie. And now that Dark Fate is out, a lot of people is finding out that this movie is unique on its own.
@@warchiefvenomn7612 Its still possible to have a Salvation sequel, despite audience have to acknowledge that it is clearly set in a different world, like Blade Runner 2049.
@@245-TRIOXIN it seems this way because the original script for this movie was supposed to have Marcus REPLACING John Connor after he dies at the end of the movie by transplanting his face on Marcus. He would be the one who survives to the end and won the war against the machines. Which kind of makes sense as Marcus would be harder to kill as being a cyborg would not attract Terminators focus. But test screen audiences hated that plot so it was re-wrote and we got this instead that's why the movie seems so focused on Marcus
It’s funny how you’re quoting thanos. The MCU is killing the viability of many other movie franchises. Especially if they aren’t comic book movies.
Comparing to the other Terminator sequences, this one is aging like a wine.
Comparing to all the other copypastes, this one's ageing like milk.
@@ArnoldQMudskipper You got a war against Skynet movie. What more do you want?
@@triggeredcat120 You got a war against plain English? I want you to understand plain English.
@@ArnoldQMudskipper my troll sense is tingling...
This my favorite second to T2
0:51 I always liked how the camera flys inside the chopper, it's a well done shot imo.
Flys? Really?
@@markfox1545 how would you describe it?
@@kayzeaza pans. Ok, flies works better.
It is a good shot
Definitely! Awesome shot! Glad there’s some who can see the shot for what it is instead of saying something about the whole movie
I think this movie deserves more credit, the terminators in Salvation were way more imposing than in T3 or Genysis
And now dark fate.
Yeah but whose call was it for terminators to throw John Connor when they get their hands on him? That guy should've been sacked on the spot.
@@Biohazard1999 in case you didn't notice: up to this point Skynet didn't kill all humans mercylessly.
@@M0butu also with the force throws him with and the objects he hits he should realistically be in to much pain to move or have several broken or fractured bones
I never hated this movie, myself. It's got a shit load of problems, but I liked some things in it, too. Out of all the bad Terminator movies, Salvation had the most potential. I still think a post-Judgement Day setting could be really great. Not sure why we can't give it another go if we apparently still feel like making Terminator movies, for whatever reason.
After t1 and t2, salvation got the most terrifying and realistic terminators in the movie.....
Thank you for your note
I disagree. The terminators in T1 and T2 were very hard to take down. That's why they used phased plasma rifles in all the future war scenes. Here, John Connor is equipped with a rifle that shoots 5.56 NATO rounds - a veritable pea shooter when compared to what the terminators are built to withstand.
@@sergey_is_sergey These are T-600s though, it wouldnt be a surprise if they are weaker than T-800. Also in T2 Arnold shows that the primary CPU is in the head, so shoot it enough times in the head close range through the eyes you could damage it and possibly take it offline at least temporarily.
@@nboy7 Good point. I stand corrected.
@@sergey_is_sergey It is kinda odd that they would put the CPU in the head though like a human weakness, they could have hidden it deep inside the chassis somewhere. I guess Skynet wasnt THAT smart :D
This is the last film that made Terminators genuinely terrifying.
Non Gay, right?
Throwing people around is really terryfing
@@Shadow25720 watching, no.. but being that person being thrown will get you tired and unable to get up, which can get you killed
That's the point of the terminators.. to be more human like and INFILTRATE humanity's resistance army and kill them sooooo..... The fact that you'll never know your closest friend is a human machine hybrid until he skynet initiates order 66 is the true nightmare 🤔
@terrorgang archives literally everyone freaks out when they drown. Even people who have mental problems and don't feel fear still freaks out when they're drowning.
if you noticed, a good detail is that once he penetrated the left upper side of its skull it immediately stopped functioning, like we saw in terminator 2, the processor chip for the T-800 is located in the upper left region of the skull, which most likely means its in the same place as the T-600
Derecha
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They should have redundant chips in the chest cavity. Or just make the brain deep in the chest, under like super thick adamantium type shit. Also I'm not sure if bipedal legs are the best form of locomotion for non-infiltration terminators. I think arms and hands are great though. hands especially are a work of art, one of nature's greatest adaptations, so definitely a good idea for a killer robot. With a hand you can have all sorts of weapons, bladed, bludgeon, ranged, etc.
@@hansolo631or reinforce it
"I see human, kill?"
"No, No kill, throw."
"I kill"
"No, You throw"
"I throw?"
"Correct."
"Its John Connor, kill?"
"No. Throw hard"
T-600 didn't know it was John connor, and the T-600 wasn't armed how could he kill John? shooting with your finger? and being thrown at 4 meters is not trying to kill so it must be caress.
@@strayk9 Correction, it wasn't unarmed, but unlegged.
Also, ahhahahaah ha, I'm sorry for laughing but there's some serious irony(no pun intended) in saying that a *terminator* is unarmed.
Built for war, named after death; It's a terminator, it by itself, *_is_* a weapon and you can bet your country that it can kill you armed or not.
But to be more exact, even without legs, a stable base, it was strong enough to send Connor flying. It can certainly crush bones by grip strength alone.
And Connor himself couldn't have done anything to it without getting to the mounted gun which it helped him do by throwing him.
strayk9 the terminator could’ve just grabbed him and twisted his neck and be done for, he had good opportunities but he just threw him
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It’s the classic trope of the immortal protagonist. Since time immemorial the lead character has carried the plot through thick and thin that would kill lesser important characters. Could you imagine if it was otherwise. In a scene full of so much ludicrous stuff it’s not hard to ask the audience for one more suspension of belief.
This T-600 in particular I like to call...
The Throwinator.
😏
Have you not seen other terminator movies?
@@ultraspinalki11 Which good terminator movies do this?
William Terminator 1 when he throws Matt around, Terminator 2 when the T-1000 throws the T-800 instead of just killing him and getting it over with, T-X throwing the T-850 around, etc.
Terry Price who’s Matt?
Terminator Logic: "I have the element of surprise, better throw him around a bit instead of killing him"
I basically have a pneumatic vice for a hand. So I'll use that immense gripping force to grab him by his clothes and throw him around a few times. That'll show him.
lmfao its too fckin true
I must throw him out of my reach even if i have no legs
T-600 didn't know it was John connor, and the T-600 wasn't armed how could he kill John? shooting with your finger? and being thrown at 4 meters is not trying to kill so it must be caress.
The first one was not bad. The terminator was legless, it had no chance of catching him upright, so it threw him to the ground.
The second one, I fully agree.
I love the servo whirr at 1:52 after hitting a travel limit when the T600 raises it's arm to smack down John. Great detail!
The practical fx and CGI in this film are superb!
Sound design is great as well.
Except for the T-800 scene, but I agree with everything else
Morgothos Disagree, it fits. There shouldn't be all these color palests in a post apocalyptic wasteland.
Thank Stan Winston, last film he ever worked on.
This was supposed to be a trilogy. The last movie eventually showing Skynets defeat
Rip 🙏
Skynet got replacement
what happened to the next two movies?
@@TheJoker-cm5mf scratched off because this movie initially received poor reviews. They were counting on people to actually like this movie on release to be able to continue the follow-up movies.
Bale’s freak out did not help.
The sounds of the terminator’s movement were so chilling and well done.
This movie had the best SFX out of all Terminator movies.
I loved seeing the T-600s. They were huge, bulky, and terrifying. My only gripe was how their first instinct was to just grab and throw someone, lol. Even the T-800 from the third act did the same.
I guess Skynet had crummy programming for hand-to-hand combat on the early walking terminators.
@@wallacewallaby5782 Mission Parameters: TERMINATE JOHN CONNOR
T-800: AFFIRMATIVE (tosses John Connor far away)
Well the T-800 repeatedly picked up and threw Ginger's boyfriend around the room in the first movie.
@@Asertix357exactly that’s what this is a call back to but fans want to forget that shiiii right Right RIIIiGHT!!!! Ugh 😑
And it’s not like the terminator t800 RIP did infect damage on John it sure did with a scar on the face and a metal rod throw the chest which almost killed John now try saying that about the what if garbage films that came after this hmm? 🤨
The T-600 is the scariest, especially with its rusty, sinister smile it has.
I agree but also the fact that it was significantly taller than the average human and it was really bulky looking compared to the other terminators.
@@RandomPerson-xo6yn It was like how old computers are much bigger than today's computers. The T600 has primitive intelligence, slower, and bulky compared to the T800 later in the movie.
It's basically a 7ft tall robot zombie
T800 maybe technically more superior to the T600, but the T600 looks more scarier and menacing than the T800, heck! it's even more bigger than the T800!
It just because the director tried to be close to those days' Bay's Transformers, so he created all robots bigger and scarier (for kids)
I love how oily and blackened the Endo is here, you can almost imagine that it smells like an old car engine.
My dad smells like an old car engine.
@@Rahab111222 what lol
Maybe he's an terminator back in time😳
I mean judging by it having no legs and is trying to crawl it was just in an explosion of some sort so it would be dirty from dirt or debris
The dilapidated state also explains why they don't just grab the neck and squeeze instead of first throwing connor around. Chip malfunction.
I like how polite the T-600 is by tapping on John's shoulder
T-600 : Hi, are you John connor ? Oh yes you are . I'm here to kill you
The T-600 has to figure out if John was a terminator or human
Also the Terminator could not identify someone if turned around. Had to get a look at his face first.
It sitting there with a stick on moustache and a cravat, cup of eral grey, "excuse me old boy, you wouldn't have came across my legs would you?"
But 15 seconds later he shreds the boot off his feet like confetti. Very realistic
Yeah, yeah ... not only polite, but quiet also, since it must crawled towards him from somewhere, since it wasn't there when John crawled the same way few seconds before.
I know people are joking about the choreography but holy crap, it's so intense. The sound effects and lack of music are amazing.
The only terminator movie that's shows the fans The War with the Machines.
It had potential but it was kinda fucked and dont have high reviews
and is pretty terrible at that. Alongside with being boring and having awful plot that leads nowhere. The only good thing about this pile of trash is cast
@@losthalo428 Salvation it Fucking great compare to Dark Fate!
@@redgun139 it's did but great John Conner.
And now we will never get it again. The new game is all we can look forward to now when it comes to the future war
Dark fate and genisys make this movie look like a masterpiece.
Terminator 1 and 2 was a masterpiece
Terminator 3 and 4 was ok
Even Terminator SCC was ok
But the rest is shit
They are all great
Rogue One A Star Wars Story is not a masterpiece it's a piece of trash
@@catpin lol
Not to be rude, but Genisys wasn't that bad nor was it the best, but I still like Terminator, T2, T3, and Terminator salvation a little better than Genisys, but Terminator Dark Fate is a piece of garbage that should have never been made.
This timeline should have been continued. Christian bale always nailing it.
Unfortunately him and the lighting guy were done professionally 😔
haha is this the movie that old meme yelling session was from? Anyways I really like the idea of Bale playing John Connor, and I think this movie had potential - feels like the start of the kind of trilogy where the 1st movie is a bit off but decent, the 2nd is the critical darling, and the 3rd is good but falls off a bit from the 2nd. IDK lol I'm probably just thinking of Batman because of Bale, but still.@@pilotwhaleproductions5880
Christian Bale even looked like John Connor we saw in T2.
Salvation was the one film that had the best modern presentation of Terminators. Both as puppets and CGI. Really unfortunate that nobody took notes for their future films.
0:00-1:49 this isn’t a one take scene. I think there are some hidden cuts and camera angles changes. But you gonna say this is some truly amazing camera work from the director. Underrated movie
No shit, Sherlock. At 0:45 the camera literally stops following the helicopter in order to have a "hidden cut", lol.
And I am pretty sure there is one at 1:04
@@Puschit1 That's correct, but in this case they at least tried to make it subtle.
One shot is the term. Not one take.
It's technically impressive but doesn't really make the scene inherently better. I didn't even notice until I read this comment. Most people don't notice. I personally found it a little disorienting.
Its so cool to see exactly what a badass John connor is.
Yup, unlike Dark Fate which just shat on him and replaced him with some random other person to fulfill the exact same role except being less believable as a badass and a leader.
@@DeathBringer769
What is this 'Dark Fate' that you speak of? They'd never make a film that bad... would they?
Well he is Batman so ......
This movie's got amazing sound production. The sounds of the terminator is downright nightmare fodder. It's so fucking cool at the same time!
The sound of the T-600 moving is actually modded sounds of high pressure crushing of metal.
Absolutely the sound especially in the theater was booming and added so much to the overall mood of the movie.
Would also be similar to transformers?
See, this is how you make a terminator threatening. The t-600 is constantly after him, and before he gets to the lmg, it’s clear John can do nothing to effectively attack it. In modern movies, they make the terminator a punching bag - while this one, an older model, manages to come pretty damn close to killing John Connor WITHOUT LEGS.
Yeah imagine if it actually got to him before he got to the LMG, it might have thrown him a few more times.
They were going to make this a trilogy but backed out.
Instead they made Genisys & Dark Fate.
Let that sink in.
Each of them also planned as a trilogy they immediatly scrapped. They should have stuck to their guns and made a sequel to this one, I would much rather have that.
Damn I just did
Too many cooks in the kitchen.
That hurts my soul
GrandSupremeDaddyo SAY SIKE RIGHT NOW
This was an under rated movie. The real final Terminator movie.
This is my favorite one I don't give a shit what anyone says
@@adf286 Ironic.
@Cameron Matlock someone with some taste
@@laneshirley3706 salvations your favourite when we have terminator 2😂😂 what a fucking joke
@@masterchief________605 lol
More like t300 because its half already
Bruh thats actually funny af dam
It got Darth mauled
@@Nicholas_Chen_ mah wigga lmao
@@Nicholas_Chen_ everything is half off at this store
Can't divide t600 by 2...cuz we don't know the value of "t". Duh
1:56 The terminators laugh is terrifying as fk.
I'm pretty sure that was the sounds of its servos when John was blocking its arm.
2:56 That survivour report is just sad.
When I was a kid, I was legit scared of skeletons. Imagine seeing a metal skeleton grab someone from the back and throw them while emmiting such sounds. I knew it was a movie, but still I had nightmares.
Nostalgia moment
That's apparently how Cameron got the idea. He had a dream/nightmare about a metal skeleton with glowing eyes crawling towards him while holding a knife.
People who hated this movie on release but come crawling back after dark fate: "You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me."
More like "now I know why you cry"
Fuck those people They got what they deserved
You can't even get a quote right.
Dark Fate is better than this shit
I liked this movie when it came out. I just watched it again recently. I still think it held up
This is the best Terminator film since T2, hands down. I loved the casting, the story, the visuals, the sound, everything about this film. I thought it was great and it showed a post-Judgement Day future the most convincingly.
How come every time a terminator gets his hands on Connor, they throw him..
Plot armor.
It'd be a much shorter movie if it just grabbed him and twisted his head around.
Don't forget the one that pimp slapped Kyle Reese in the original.
@@bryant7542 The solution to that is to not have them grab him in the first place. This is just a cheap way of creating tension.
@@Mrvanderspank I agree, I think it undermines the tension to have the result being thrown, if they just left it at "this thing is really tough don't let it touch you" the tension might be higher, I like the part where he catches the arm with his leg, kinda a human leg v terminator arm moment, I think that contact is fine
"oh you're going for the mounted heavy weapon in the chopper ? Let me throw you closer to it" - Throwinator-600
I can totally imagine being slammed into a pretty solid expanse of metal would be _soooo_ invigorating...
Throwinator. XD
0:42
"Data tranfer complete! Conner we're joining you topsi-"
Skynet: "..the hell you are."
As one who grew up watching the heck out of Terminator 1 and 2 a billion times on VHS, I freaking loved Salvation! I didn't even know that it was considered "hated" until years later XD
I love Salvation. The whole time traveling back to protect John got old and it was great to finally see the future in more detail we kept hearing about. Probably my 3rd favorite Terminator film.
1:47
T-600:
"Get off my lawn!"
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lmao
lmao
Always believed it was the T-700 in this scene...kinda difficult to tell them apart at times. When they announced a 5th Terminator project I was hoping it would be a continuation of the future war. Arnold didn't need to come back for the recent films in my opinion maybe a cameo as a human prisoner used by Skynet to replicate human tissue would have been justified.
Was never even in the film, it was poor CG, and that's impossible, its a 600 model, 700s were skipped and this is the time they produced the first 800s.
Had a T850 for the mobile game
@@Tommy92gunner There were 700s
@@Tommy92gunner There are actually quite a few T-700 Endos later in the film. The on-screen version was identical in appearance to the T-800 but was made of Titanium-Steel rather than Hyperalloy. The concept art version was very much a hybrid of the T-600 and T-800.
The concept art version was never seen in the film or video game. And the film version was referred to in dialogue as T-800s lol. So in a way you're correct.
Yeah the fact they used arnold for multiple different variations is where i also got confused and a little overwhelmed with caring about the lore
I actually liked this movie when it came out
Me too. People were way too harsh about it!
Great movie
Same
Better than dawk flop
@@kaylen611 Dark Flopppie
"How many survivors are on site?"
"One."
".......copy."
That pause before the response is a nice little touch.
0:11 Terry Crews in the background playing dead lol
terry we need you to play dead
john lawful *director pays him 2.5 million dollars for playing a dead soldier in terminator salvation for a cameo
@@tonyboi5935 sign me up
Making my way downtown
Walking fast
Faces past
And I'm here dead
@Activate Kruger "she needs some medical attention"
They should just show this in theater again. I'd watch it.
When this came out, my theater showed Terminator and T2 before this. It was glorious. Best $20/ ticket I've spent
Now you can! Renting a theater is cheap these days.
I just got a 75inch. Not a movie theater, but damned good for my living room. Crank on my sound bar and were in business!!!
They did at in my hometown 1 room theater. Town’s people voted for it on for throwback week. It’s so awesome on the big screen. This was back in January 2022
Honestly love the design of the T-600
I agree woth ya.
I know! Stan Winston design it.
One thing that’s under appreciated in this movie is the cinematography. There’s a lot of great long shots.
He was the only actor capable of playing both Batman and John Connor, Bale is the best.
And played Ken Miles in
Ford v Ferrari
An American pyscho defending the city of Gotham against the invasion of killer robots, Bale for president!
@@Abcdee8
American Psycho... a hell of a great film!
Damn true man
The terminators in this movie are like metal, menacing,strong, unrelenting zombies
That was actually super terrifying. They did a super great job with that scene
Shame this fight sequence was only thirty seconds. Should have been longer. Most CG animation has a very floaty feel to it but they did a great job with giving the T-600 some real weight and heft. It feels very ironpunk, like Tony Stark's first iron man suit, and feels like it's actually there on set. The other films could have learned a lot from this one.
They used motion capture for it, under the cg there’s a dude crawling after him
I'm pretty sure there was also a puppet
1:54 Oh, oh, oh, glorious practical effects. Real Terminators... all thanks to the late Stan Winston... whose legacy has now been pissed on.
RIP Stan Winston. The Man.
Practical effects are ageless, because they are real. Dark Fate's CGI looks bad even for today's standards
Best green suit effects I’ve ever seen. I couldn’t even tell what was CG and what was practical!
@Boba Fett The actual best way in my opinion since you get the best of both worlds
Stan Winston also made the Animatronic T rex for Jurrasic Park with the TREX scene
@@rebel1717 The guy in the green suit was edited out. They were just controlling the puppet T-600, which is 100% real in every shot here.
Still better than dark fate easily.
Lol. "Dark Date"
It should've been the official title
IXOwenIX That’s what i called the date with the goth
Pretty freaking much!
@@KlaymenDel Not "Dark Fart"? ^^
IXOwenIX more like dark shit
It's a shame Salvation wasn't very well received. I thought it was a great movie with some awesome CGI and action scenes.
I agree. I just didn't like how the story was focused on the Marcus Wright character. Should have been more focused on battles/war between the resistance and the Terminators.
Still this the best of the terminator series. No time travel no bakchodi. Only war
Terminator: Salvation was a really good movie. I liked how the terminators were so animated and audible. The mechanical sounds that they make when they are in motion is terrifyingly unnerving. They had a trilogy planned for this film. Had they went through with it, I honestly believe that they would've done the Terminator franchise justice...and proper closure.
Agree. I just wish the story wasn't so heavily focused on Marcus Wright. I liked the idea of him being like some sort of perfect infiltrator, but it just seemed like it was his story and not much else. If we'd had more scenes like this one and the story was more focused on the battles between the resistance and the terminators this might have been regarded as one of the best.
It's worse than a cutscene from Modern Warfare 3.
@@mct8888 call of duty is a pure shit.
@@mct8888 ok virgin
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He can't be a virgin... he got sexually abused by his uncle.
Love how bulky and mechanical it is. The visuals and sound design in this film are absolutely stellar.
Imagine being in his situation, being thrown around by some massive robotic killing machine. It tosses you to the ground and crawls towards you, just barely stopped by your foot against it's arm, and then...
1:56
_It laughs._
Oh shit i didnt even realize it did that
Sounds horrifying.
..and then throws him again.
I don't think that was a laugh, I that was the sound its arm was making from John forcing it back with his leg. This T-600 acts and sounds like it was almost ready for the junk yard whether John had dusted it with the M60 or not. By this point it was a toaster that had two arms and head.
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Oh god will tits stop making this type of comment already?
The pause at 1:47 was like the T600 was saying "Hey dude nothing personal"
Anyone notice how the terminator lets out a creepy laugh at 1:55 as john puts his foot up to hold its arm back and draws his pistol. Always thought that they got the sound affects spot on in this, and the laugh just adds more layers of creepyness
I think all that was it's gears and joints grinding hard as heck, because one key thing the T800 has over the T-600 here is the T-800 having magnetic joints.
Those terminators even throw their target away when they can only crawl after it. 😂
Hyuk-hyuk.
Man whoever directed the feminator 2019 movie should see this
Tim miller. Deadpool 1 director
Feminator is the prefect title dam
0:11 A wild Terry Crews is spotted!
This movie wasn't that bad. I was like 12 or 13 when it came out and I thought it was a breath of fresh air for the terminator franchise. All my life I wanted a movie post-judgement day and this totally satisfied that desire. I dont get why people hate on this movie. It's bad ass and way better than the last 2 we got.
Yes 👍
I mean this isnt the first time a Terminator wasted an opportunity to kill remember in T2: Judgement Day when the T 1000 stabbed Sara but instead of killing her he tried getting her to call John despite literally minutes later transform a into Sara (who is alive for some reason everyone else he copied is dead) himself and calls out to John
@@rusty7984 It's subtle. The T-1000 realizes it's not entirely convincing and that a human can tell when it's imitating a human. For instance, when he took the form of John's foster mom, John immediately realized something wasn't right, and figured it out. Thus getting Sarah to do it is more convincing. The T-1000 has a very surface level understanding of human society. He takes the form of a police officer, thinking it will make John trust him, not knowing that John doesn't trust the police.
He was about to kill Sarah too, but the T-800 stopped him.
Totally agree, this movie had the balls to drop the time travel gimmick and move on. Audience was not ready to quit their comfort.
This film is my favorite sequel to T2. Every other Terminator film has been a joke
I really liked this portrait of the first stages of the future war, where conventional ammo could damage the first versions of the machines. They should 've continued from here, after the t800 started to be produced
I've always liked this movie when it came out. I thought it was a masterpiece. I was not wrong about it.
It's awesome how realistic this looks, they've nailed it with the fight, especially with the upside down machine gun.
Almost Everything was good in Salivation.
Except Thowminator
Throwmenator?
One of the bests part terminators, with great actror (Cristaian Bale).
They did a good job making the terminators look terrifying.
1:56 T-600 : hahahaha lol 🤣😂
I remeber when I watched the movie back in 2010 and I liked it a lot although it was different than what we were used to in Terminator movies.
The idea of having older models being used and generally the excellent sound design (modern robotic machine sounds) were great
Now I see that I had good reason to like it as many have changed their opinion about it.
0:06 when you film with you friends for the first time but you are the main character😂
I just want to say, the comments in these videos are just the best. You guys always notice things that I seem to miss, and it just adds so much more when I re-watch for it.
That M60 saved his life!
I loved that this movie showed the T-600s, the failed infiltrator model Kyle mentioned to Sarah back in the first film.
They weren't infiltration units.
@@robirvine6970 they were. The T600's were at times deployed with rubber skin, but that was not convincing
I love how this looks like a single shot
That belt saved his life.... Never forget your belt folks!!
The Best Sequel after "Judgment Day".
I betcha you're saying that because of Dark fate
*JUJ YAY*
@@JynxedKoma ok lol
This was my favorite Terminator movie after Terminator 2.
To be fair the bar was pretty low.
Degree7 “After” You seem to be the brain damaged one.
“I call this one the throwinator”
“Damn this terminator really likes to throw people”
Have y’all not seen the other terminators? Lol
I don't recall Sarah or John Connor in T1 or T2 being thrown around like that. Have you seen the other terminators?
@@nearlydead7510 the first scene that to mind was the T2 scene where Arnold throws a biker dude out of the window, while Bad to The Bone was playing
Nearlydead Idk how you could not. It’s literally the biggest plot device in the series. They write themselves into a corners whenever a terminator gets within arms reach.
“Well, the terminator got a hold of him now, what should he do to him in this scene?”
“Well we can’t have the main character die yet, just make the terminator throw him”
@@marioss2167 he doesn't have to kill all the time, he didn't kill the punk that gave him his clothes in the first one either, though he killed his buddies. That's different from this scene, where the terminator has an order to kill humans on sight yet he throws him around.
@@marioss2167 because that wasnt his target. Like It was said, he doesnt have to kill randoms all the time.
The T-600 just grabs his shoulder so nicely, instead of breaking his neck in two which it could EASILY do; now that’s some titanium reinforced plot armour Mr Connor.
Even though Terminator Salvation is my 3rd favorite Terminator movie, despite its flaws, but that "throwmenator" joke is funny and valid. I get a kick out of it, cause as much as I love this movie, that is funny, because it's true.
Wow that's so funny
@@KoroSin777 and that's even more funny when you realise that's funny
@@yap7656 woah that is funny when you think about how funny that funny comment was.
It's no different from T1. the terminator threw Matt all around th place
@@DrumCoversFromHell Well I mean, Matt wasn't really his primary target, so it really didn't matter if he killed him or not. John Connor however is the main threat to Skynet, yet every time they got their hands on him, they tossed him around instead of impaling him with their fists. If I took a shot every time a Terminator threw Connor around in Salvation, I'd be drunk. LOL
I love how the shot goes on for nearly 2 minutes straight, yeah a lot of digital manipulation used to make it appear that way but it's an insane level of commitment done by the director to give it this very visceral war-like appeal. Crazy to believe the 2nd best director (my opinion) of the Terminator franchise was the guy behind Charlie's Angels, and that Netflix Babysitter movie.
Dormammu he did better than the miller dork
@@edTV2024 Passion and dedication can turn a court jester into a serious artist.
That 1/2 terminator trying to kill Connor is freaking terrifying! Especially knowing how much it takes to kill one!
This one scene alone was better than the whole Dark Fate and Genisys movies combined. The visual effects alone put those movies to shame despite being a decade or not older