I am not able to understand which is the configuration that get the most of the benefits (pusher or tractor). I only know that the bulldog is the gyro I like best. The propeller is far from ground, wheels, and main rotor. It could be easily designed as a conventional enclosed airplane cockpit (flying without the need to wear helmet and glasses is more confortable). The most important fact, however, is to find out the flight features: nothing it is more important, on my mind. If I have to choose between a ugly good flyer and a cute bad flyer I always go for the good one.
Back in the 1960s there was a line a firearms developed in the US called _"GYROJET."_ These fired one-piece 'mini-rockets', instead of bullets contained in separate cartridges. The system never worked well, and it faded from the market.
We need a gyro version of the A10-Warthog, a very close quarters air defense system, that could be air dropped to anywhere and deployed in short order. I believe there could be a role in battle for the humble gyro.... Joe
@@ogdumplings8196 I have since found out the Chinese have built hundreds of two seat gyro's with the second seat having a mounted machine gun. There is a video somewhere showing different versions of the Chinese military gyro... thanks.... Joe
While it seems quite unlikely that either the US or Britain will ever employ gyrocopters in a military role there are two countries that might greatly benefit from doing this, Ukraine and Taiwan. Ukraine might do so because they desperately need a bigger air force and so could take advantage of the low cost of a gyrocopter vs a helicopter or fighter jet. Taiwan in that given an invasion by China, China will likely fire any missile to ground their fighters jets on day 1 of the invasion, which as Rommel said about the invasion of France will be the Longest day. In contrast gyrocopters can be based most anywhere and thus would be hard to take out or grounded by attacking their bases. Also, the gyrocopter can benefit from modern technology that keeps making weapons systems smaller, lighter, and have longer ranges. For example BAEs missile guidance kit for the 2.75 inch rocket, e.g. see th-cam.com/video/V092M25KeUA/w-d-xo.html A gyrocopter armed with several of these plus a EO/IR/laser for targeting could engage targets 2-3 miles away. Automatic grenade launchers might be another weapon that could be fired from a gyrocopter, either forward fired or fired to side like a mini gun ship. e.g. see th-cam.com/video/TvSOrS9YD0s/w-d-xo.html Also, since a gyrocopter can go very slow, that could make it hard to detect at low altitude by doppler radars. And at altitude they can fly slow enough (while losing altitude) to possibly make chaff effective in that the radar could not use Doppler to distinguish it from the chaff. So maybe what the gyrocopter manufacturers need to do is market their gyroplanes not to the US but to smaller countries that can't afford big ticket systems like expensive fighters or helicopters (or need the forward basing to survive against missile attacks while on the ground) but have a need for air support to augment their existing force structures. These might need to be a tad larger to be able to carry a few hundred additional pounds of equipment but not thousands. A beefed up gyrocopter might even be able to carry one small diameter bomb. e.g. see th-cam.com/video/TpJMygz6v40/w-d-xo.html This could give a gyrocopter a stand off of maybe 20 miles or so. Eight gyrocopter (say they cost 5 million total) could the deliver 8 of small diameter bombs for the same as one jet fighter costing 50-70 million dollars and be based anywhere. These could augment say ground launched versions but could be massed over a any area as needed over a wide front. e.g. see th-cam.com/video/SmUU1SUDeAo/w-d-xo.html So the punch line here is don't waste trying to sell these to the US or Britain but to those countries that might need a low cost way to employ air power to augment their existing force structure, something neither the US or Britain all that much needs... or at least thinks it needs.
Sadly, I fear you’re correct. Many aircraft need a military market for launch, and NATO countries will be slow to pivot. Ukraine has shown the high value of low cost platforms, but the US particularly loves their high capability toys, no matter the cost. As these designs are a far cry from anything currently on the market, they may not be able to move forward without a military customer.
Hello 1. Unless you will develop gyro that can fly full envelope with modern counter IR missiles and all the 2020 go to war adds on tech no military will even think about that platform, not even for the lowest risk Operations profile. 2. You will have to build at least "certified as any single on the market (= non Lsa/UL )" to make low scales LE/ police and national organizations ( Forrest service, wildlife + conversation,SAR etc) to take it to their consideration. That's usually how it works ( on the big $$$$$ + Legal + Operational demand consideration market). You better design it to fly with IR/HD cam systems and or gruond and weather radar adds on well within solid envelope. 3.just find me an investor that find a way to put to the market 100k Glass avionics LSA certified enclosed cockpit solid tool... (Composite Rotors dhaa), thanks.
I want a scorpion. Never knew of it til now. Always wanted a Bulldog. Something designed with the pure joy of flying in mind.
I am not able to understand which is the configuration that get the most of the benefits (pusher or tractor). I only know that the bulldog is the gyro I like best. The propeller is far from ground, wheels, and main rotor. It could be easily designed as a conventional enclosed airplane cockpit (flying without the need to wear helmet and glasses is more confortable). The most important fact, however, is to find out the flight features: nothing it is more important, on my mind. If I have to choose between a ugly good flyer and a cute bad flyer I always go for the good one.
Back in the 1960s there was a line a firearms developed in the US called _"GYROJET."_
These fired one-piece 'mini-rockets', instead of bullets contained in separate cartridges.
The system never worked well, and it faded from the market.
Back to the very beginning with direct control of the rotor head ...
We need a gyro version of the A10-Warthog, a very close quarters air defense system, that could be air dropped to anywhere and deployed in short order. I believe there could be a role in battle for the humble gyro.... Joe
No, modern days drones took care of the need there. what you were thinking was Germany cold war era.
@@ogdumplings8196 I have since found out the Chinese have built hundreds of two seat gyro's with the second seat having a mounted machine gun. There is a video somewhere showing different versions of the Chinese military gyro... thanks.... Joe
Is there any video of these actually flying?
Hi - no very sadly none were ever built that could fly.
While it seems quite unlikely that either the US or Britain will ever employ gyrocopters in a military role there are two countries that might greatly benefit from doing this, Ukraine and Taiwan.
Ukraine might do so because they desperately need a bigger air force and so could take advantage of the low cost of a gyrocopter vs a helicopter or fighter jet.
Taiwan in that given an invasion by China, China will likely fire any missile to ground their fighters jets on day 1 of the invasion, which as Rommel said about the invasion of France will be the Longest day. In contrast gyrocopters can be based most anywhere and thus would be hard to take out or grounded by attacking their bases.
Also, the gyrocopter can benefit from modern technology that keeps making weapons systems smaller, lighter, and have longer ranges. For example BAEs missile guidance kit for the 2.75 inch rocket, e.g. see
th-cam.com/video/V092M25KeUA/w-d-xo.html
A gyrocopter armed with several of these plus a EO/IR/laser for targeting could engage targets 2-3 miles away.
Automatic grenade launchers might be another weapon that could be fired from a gyrocopter, either forward fired or fired to side like a mini gun ship. e.g. see
th-cam.com/video/TvSOrS9YD0s/w-d-xo.html
Also, since a gyrocopter can go very slow, that could make it hard to detect at low altitude by doppler radars. And at altitude they can fly slow enough (while losing altitude) to possibly make chaff effective in that the radar could not use Doppler to distinguish it from the chaff.
So maybe what the gyrocopter manufacturers need to do is market their gyroplanes not to the US but to smaller countries that can't afford big ticket systems like expensive fighters or helicopters (or need the forward basing to survive against missile attacks while on the ground) but have a need for air support to augment their existing force structures.
These might need to be a tad larger to be able to carry a few hundred additional pounds of equipment but not thousands.
A beefed up gyrocopter might even be able to carry one small diameter bomb. e.g. see
th-cam.com/video/TpJMygz6v40/w-d-xo.html
This could give a gyrocopter a stand off of maybe 20 miles or so. Eight gyrocopter (say they cost 5 million total) could the deliver 8 of small diameter bombs for the same as one jet fighter costing 50-70 million dollars and be based anywhere.
These could augment say ground launched versions but could be massed over a any area as needed over a wide front. e.g. see
th-cam.com/video/SmUU1SUDeAo/w-d-xo.html
So the punch line here is don't waste trying to sell these to the US or Britain but to those countries that might need a low cost way to employ air power to augment their existing force structure, something neither the US or Britain all that much needs... or at least thinks it needs.
BTW, I made a TH-cam video that examines this.
th-cam.com/video/bl65k80yn8E/w-d-xo.html
And I just made this one as well.
th-cam.com/video/G6d9CGEZW4A/w-d-xo.html
Sadly, I fear you’re correct. Many aircraft need a military market for launch, and NATO countries will be slow to pivot. Ukraine has shown the high value of low cost platforms, but the US particularly loves their high capability toys, no matter the cost. As these designs are a far cry from anything currently on the market, they may not be able to move forward without a military customer.
Hello
1. Unless you will develop gyro that can fly full envelope with modern counter IR missiles and all the 2020 go to war adds on tech no military will even think about that platform, not even for the lowest risk Operations profile.
2. You will have to build at least "certified as any single on the market (= non Lsa/UL )" to make low scales LE/ police and national organizations ( Forrest service, wildlife + conversation,SAR etc) to take it to their consideration.
That's usually how it works ( on the big $$$$$ + Legal + Operational demand consideration market).
You better design it to fly with IR/HD cam systems and or gruond and weather radar adds on well within solid envelope.
3.just find me an investor that find a way to put to the market 100k Glass avionics LSA certified enclosed cockpit solid tool... (Composite Rotors dhaa), thanks.
Works well in a parapublic role