Jon and Sansa | Until Death (8x04)

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  • @Steelers57
    @Steelers57 5 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Sansa has the knowledge from all of her teachers, Littlefinger, Cercie, Sandor, Margery, Olleana, Tyrion, etc. That is why she is Queen in the North. Everyone underestimated her. Most of them are dead.

    • @SSS702-y6q
      @SSS702-y6q 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Subject matter for this all final her life lesson can when she he says in

  • @TheMuph
    @TheMuph 5 ปีที่แล้ว +337

    Cat couldn't save Ned...I think Sansa is trying to save Jon from Dany when she goes full Mad-Queen! That's why she told Tyrion, she knows when push comes to shove he'll make the right choice and protect Jon. People keep giving Sansa shit for breaking her promise to Jon but she ONLY told Tyrion after she saw how frightened of Dany he was and the idea of Jon being alone with her surrounded by soldiers loyal to her was too much. She lost her Father and Brother because they were SURROUNDED by enemies and I believe she will do everything in her power to keep that from happening to Jon.

    • @nafisahmohamed4772
      @nafisahmohamed4772 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Yes. Sansa did inform Tyrion Stark men don't do well at King's Landing. And raise what if there is someone else, someone better (for the Iron Throne and alluding to Jon obviously)

    • @MrWhoevr
      @MrWhoevr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When she said she knows someone better than Dany she didn’t mean Jon. She was talking about herself. She has wanted to be queen since childhood. She begged to marry Joffrey so she could be queen. She broke her word to Jon. She is amoral. She will do anything to be queen and doesn’t care about the consequences.

    • @TheMuph
      @TheMuph 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@MrWhoevr They will probably go this route because the writing has been very illogical and inconsistent with character history this season and it will be shocking....however I don't think she was talking about herself. If she was why bring up Jons' Targaryen heritage and claim to The Throne? I think she sees Jon is in a dangerous position trying to appease an unstable person and she broke her promise so someone would try to keep him safe should things go South with Dany. She only told Tyrion after seeing how scared he is deep down of Dany

    • @ankitarawat9091
      @ankitarawat9091 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      I literally applauded when sansa told tyrion of jon's true heritage. If it were my brother going away
      to serve a queen with potential for madness I would do the same in some measure that guarantees a hope for his safety now that tyrion knows . And frankly I don't see what's so bad with her wanting jon on the throne. Wanting to be queen was not her motive. Tyrion and varys' conversation clearly reveals she was talking about jon.

    • @TheMuph
      @TheMuph 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@ankitarawat9091 Exactly! Jon is being honorable but foolish. Yes he made a promise but when the person you made the promise to is slipping towards Madness and Tyranny you are NO LONGER Honor Bound to keep that promise. Any ruler who only offers Death or Surrender is not fit to Rule and Dany no longer has any claim to The Throne just the power to take it.

  • @favor2029
    @favor2029 5 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    Jonsa all the way.. They're the reason i keep watching the show.. And all the starks as well..

    • @bh7286
      @bh7286 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      If not Dany, then Sansa makes sense in every way for Jon. Alas, I’ve accepted our fate

    • @marianasa945
      @marianasa945 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Infelizmente do jeito q tá acho difícil jon foi enfeitiçado pela danerys e não é amor e feitiço mesmo. O melhor casal seria jonsa

    • @jbennett2319
      @jbennett2319 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      fAVOUR aMADI
      👏🏾❤️ YES ❤️🙌🏾

  • @jdsosa3895
    @jdsosa3895 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    They are cousins and their chemistry is so great a Targaryen father and a Stark mother, the Dragon and the wolf can be one, The King and the Queen in the North 🐲🐺

  • @evesdrop1982
    @evesdrop1982 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I don’t honestly believe Jon ever really loved Dany. He was attracted to her, yes, but I never got the vibe that he really loved her, more like he was fascinated by her. I think she loved him though, even though she felt threatened by him later on. I think he stayed by her side out of a sense of duty after he found out about his parentage. I think he loved Sansa. Love is the death of duty. When Tyrion told Jon that Dany was a threat to his own life, he shrugged it off. When he told him she was a threat to Arya and Sansa he rationalized saying they would bend the knee. When Tyrion made him see that they, Sansa specifically, would not bend the knee and Jon saw the true extent of the threat Dany posed to Sansa, THAT’S what convinced him to do her in. Not the fact that she went mad queen, not the threat she posed to the north or the rest of the realm, it was Sansa.

    • @maylynbayani
      @maylynbayani 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think so too. I dont know the extent of Jon's feelings for Dany but it cannot compare to his love of the North, his duty and his pack.

    • @jsvvnt
      @jsvvnt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@maylynbayani the starsk are love to him not duty

  • @Tamingsouls
    @Tamingsouls 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Oh god, I love Sansa so much, I hope she finds happiness and peace again..

  • @evh5150combo
    @evh5150combo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I watched pratically all Jon and Sansa Edits over youtube. THIS IS THE BEST ONE. The perfect finale we didn't have...

  • @MsBlueDaffodil
    @MsBlueDaffodil ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sansa believed in Jon. Saw what he was and could be if he didn't let his insecurities rule. And Jon believed in Sansa. Saw that she was more than what people thought she was.

  • @arizonaranger921
    @arizonaranger921 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Only fitting ain't it? To end it with them together? This all started with a Targaryen Prince loving a Lady Stark. Well Jon is a proper Targaryen Prince and Sansa has well proven that she's a Lady from house Stark. They're not perfect but ya have to admit. They empower one another.

  • @lightboat9039
    @lightboat9039 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Love this more than I thought..got to say you’ve opened the door to new theories

    • @allianders7691
      @allianders7691  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Light Boat I love a good GoT theory

  • @TheYetiThornton
    @TheYetiThornton 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    After their goodbye scene, this song really seems to embody them.
    I’m so glad someone used Novo Amor to make Jonsa videos. This song is one my favorites. So thank you!

  • @garygresham6917
    @garygresham6917 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I know it's not gonna happen but I would love to c Sansa on the iron throne, but I guess we'll have to settle for her being the Queen in the north

  • @rorygf
    @rorygf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I think you just made ship them. Hard. If they're going to make Dany a tyrant than I'm all down with Jon and Sansa being together and rulling the Seven Kingdoms.

    • @vickymactian
      @vickymactian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wish granted.

    • @phfilms5157
      @phfilms5157 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well hello there

    • @axx9149
      @axx9149 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      BARCASTUDIO HD general kenobi!

    • @sneakymia1
      @sneakymia1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      she was always a tyrant, she sacrificed three family members to bring back dragons, and use them as military weapon to get back the throne, she never belong on, her mad king father let tywin rule instead, and dany will do the same thing with tyrion and sansa, and tyrion is mad king son

  • @dina310497
    @dina310497 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thank you for this! I still have hope...

    • @sbeer2877
      @sbeer2877 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I won't let go of it. There is still some time left for a huge twist 🤞🤞

    • @mercyrn35
      @mercyrn35 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cersei once told Sansa to never love anything besides her children because love makes you weak. She sees Cersei in Danaerys and knows that Dany will choose the crown over everything. Sansa has been schooled by the best teacher... experience. Littlefinger, Cersei, Joffrey, Ramsey,Tyrion, and the Hound. The ones she looked at as monsters cared for her and protected her with out asking anything in return. She learned about what really makes a monster. She will likely end up staying married to Tyrion. But she will not let Dany destroy Jon... her brother.

  • @nicholedowling1812
    @nicholedowling1812 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That was brilliant and lovely. Thank you. I ship them for Life ❤️❤️❤️

  • @Britfan06
    @Britfan06 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh my that really pulled at the old heartstrings! Loved it

  • @AriesStarChild
    @AriesStarChild 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is really done well. The flow of storylines and speaking points flowed greatly. Thanks!

  • @shashankgairola4676
    @shashankgairola4676 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Best thing today after the shite they pulled in E5

  • @Jay-qn3hy
    @Jay-qn3hy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Totally never saw this happening and now I'm freaking out lol great vid

    • @sneakymia1
      @sneakymia1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you knew rhaegar, 40, abandon his wife and two kids at a tournament to run off teenager, cuz he wanted a third child n he abandon her to give birth alone and die alone, and never loved her
      and ned stark is another asshole, he should have told his wife the truth, and been a better father to sansa, his true heir and just like him
      sansa and arya are two sides of the same coin, sansa got all the rules, and arya got all the freedom, sansa is like ned, calm and cool and realizes good and bad in everyone she meets, and arya looks like ned but acts like cate, total psycho, even told her own sister, she would murder her and wear her face, and fans love her
      arya, jon and dany are boring characters, they all became same cliche,

  • @sanbul12
    @sanbul12 5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I think Sansa is already in love with Jon........and Jon is starting to have mixed feelings.

    • @allianders7691
      @allianders7691  5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I definitely agree, he sees her differently now

    • @nafisahmohamed4772
      @nafisahmohamed4772 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Sansa loves Jon as I do my own siblings. Nothing sexual in that. Oh, wait. Incest happens between Cersei and Dany. Jon with his Aunt Dany. But cousins do marry each other even nowadays in some societies. But I seriously doubt Sansa and Jon would.

    • @sanbul12
      @sanbul12 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nafisahmohamed4772 they would eventually....just wait and watch😊😊😊

    • @mercyrn35
      @mercyrn35 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      sanchita kn anything is possible but I think just like Theon was family to them without blood ties they see Jon as their brother no matter what the truth is. They see each other differently now because they have grown up and changed... it’s respect... not lust or anything sexual.

    • @sanbul12
      @sanbul12 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mercyrn35 yes, that might be true, but incest is quite common in GOT. Don't take me otherwise but, l think it will be lovely to see them both together. They have both changed a lot and come a long way since Season 1.

  • @007nightwing4
    @007nightwing4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My queen Sansa 👸❤️

  • @ceafreitas296
    @ceafreitas296 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Starks forever

  • @yaminl.matosrivera6310
    @yaminl.matosrivera6310 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Two episodes it’s not enough!!! 😭😭😭😭 Jonsa it’s not gonna happen.

    • @danielleransom123
      @danielleransom123 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      DONT SAY THAT, DONT YOU DARE SAY THAT!!!! 😱😭

    • @LordDomSnow
      @LordDomSnow 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Little CinnamonRoll read the leaks it’s not gonna happen. You might not ever watch over again when you see how it all ends

  • @Duskmin
    @Duskmin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is amazing!!! ❤

    • @allianders7691
      @allianders7691  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Marlene Reyes thanks, I appreciate it! ❤️

  • @EvenAngelsFall
    @EvenAngelsFall 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    play it at my funeral.
    this video is pure perfection.

  • @tubbylita
    @tubbylita 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They played with my heart. 💔💔💔

  • @selenepiana7021
    @selenepiana7021 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Beautiful!

  • @marianasa945
    @marianasa945 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    O melhor casal Jonsa ..aí vem a hbo e caga no final 🧐

  • @rozrena3959
    @rozrena3959 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my heart...

  • @Mista66G66
    @Mista66G66 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can anyone tell me what's the title of the song?

    • @allianders7691
      @allianders7691  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's called "repeat until death" by novo amor

  • @kathyhatley4366
    @kathyhatley4366 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I wanted them together but Jon will say she betrayed him by telling the secret to Tyrion.

    • @allianders7691
      @allianders7691  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kathy Hatley most likely, he’s all about honesty

    • @adamcain4037
      @adamcain4037 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I believe he might be annoyed but he'll quickly forgive her. He always does. If Dany goes go mad Queen then he'll realise that Sansa was right and that by telling his secret she was looking out for Jon and her people. They both love, trust and believe in each other. That will never change and they will never be at odds for long.

  • @marianasa945
    @marianasa945 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Queria todos os starks em winterfel no fim mas ...

  • @sallymoodley7540
    @sallymoodley7540 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A Stark should be on the Throne????

    • @nafisahmohamed4772
      @nafisahmohamed4772 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jon was not even keen to be King of the North. Bran?

    • @sallymoodley7540
      @sallymoodley7540 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nafisahmohamed4772 Yes, highly possible Bran will sit on the Throne. The way the series is going it's anyone's seat.

    • @adamcain4037
      @adamcain4037 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If Jon doesn't get the throne then it's possible Sansa could.

    • @sallymoodley7540
      @sallymoodley7540 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adamcain4037 Yes, and Sansa wants the Throne.

  • @letit023
    @letit023 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really people want to ship Jon and Sansa? Sure the Lannisters and targaryens are all about the Incest, but not the Northern not the Starks so that will *Never* happen.

  • @MakarovFox
    @MakarovFox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    when Jon discovered that he is a targaryen and dany is his aunt, he could not do anything else with her, just kiss her, but with sansa, will it be different? they lived together all his life and for him it is like a sister even if it is not for blood, besides they are still relatives, it would be almost the same as with his aunt Dany, besides Sansa seems to have feelings for Tyrion.

    • @allianders7691
      @allianders7691  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think tyrion and sansa will end up together if they both live but I like the dynamic between jon and sansa this season too, they're very protective over one another

    • @leticiasoares1850
      @leticiasoares1850 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Jon never had the chance to see Sansa as a sister. When they were children she was always distant and never spared her time to bond with him the way Arya, Robb, Bran and Rickon did. It would be weird if a romantic relationship played out between Jon and Arya, for example, but with Sansa it does make sense.. Plus, his affair with Daenerys felt rushed and kinda shallow, I don't like it very much. Jonsa all the way, and I'm not ashamed of my opinion
      P.S.: english is not my mother tongue, sorry for any mistakes

  • @sharonriley4137
    @sharonriley4137 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    No no and no. If Jon can't stay with the woman he loves, Dany, because she's his aunt - he's NOT going to initiate an incestuous relationship with his sister. Love doesn't have to be about sex, ffs !

    • @allianders7691
      @allianders7691  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Never said I ship them as a couple, I simply love the dynamic between the two characters

    • @sharonriley4137
      @sharonriley4137 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@allianders7691 Okay but, It sure looked like you did ! I liked your mash up of their best scenes, and agree that they are great as siblings and allies.

    • @allianders7691
      @allianders7691  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sharon Riley thanks for watching!

  • @Nimakh2003
    @Nimakh2003 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sansa playing the game.she used jon secret to betray jon and dany to pave the way for herself.she always hated jon.

    • @carlastockdale9623
      @carlastockdale9623 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sansa always wanted to be queen at any cost

    • @LaiaNietoKeiner
      @LaiaNietoKeiner 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@carlastockdale9623 that's so stupid. She wanted to be queen when she was 11 years old...Lots of LITTLE GIRLS dream of becoming princesses and you shouldn't shame them for it.
      People change, they grow up?! She stopped wanting to be queen when her father was executed...

    • @blackflagsnroses6013
      @blackflagsnroses6013 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Nimakh2003 Lol she literally betrayed Jon to get Jon on the Throne and undermine Daenerys’ claim. Right until the end she saw Jon as her king, threatening the Unsullied if they harm Jon, still sad the North lost their king until Jon told her she would be good enough. Anyone who doesn’t see how Sansa has done everything for her family’s security are as delusional as those who believed Daenerys wasn’t like all Targaryens