So theorically when arena starts I just simply summon the demon by maldraxxus covenant. After that I can start the fight against players while the summoned demon will die. It will leave its blood on the floor and its dead body. Next I can stun the enemy player and start the 4sec channeling shield over the demons body. And boom! This way I will get the shield (with far more than 20% hp due to the dead demon) and the extra 20% damage after I get the demons soulshard.
I mean you can summon the demon right after the gates open. Imagine that you summon the demon right at the first attack of the enemy so you will able to damage the enemy and the demon. As I saw the demon do just a really small amount of damage but you can kill it very easy by cleave damage.
Personally I want to pick Maldraxxus. I still haven't made my mind but I lean towards the Necrolords. The Venthyr ability is indeed the "Best in Slot" one. I don't do raids (only LFR), only Mythic+. But I doubt I will have any fun with the Venthyr abilities... Will see though.
@@Jedithtv I haven't played the alpha or the beta but from what I've seen from videos, the balance issue is going to be much bigger now. There is no freedom of choice (as they try to market it) when 1-2 covenants are far superior to the rest for specific classes. I think they should remove the static pool of blood and have the buff be applied to the player directly. Or give us the ability to choose what demons we want to summon. Each demon can, for instance, grant us a different buff.
Covenants should be mostly as a story/cosmetic option. Perhaps each covenant could also grant your character specific buffs or even change the way some abilities/talents behave. As a havoc demon hunter I would love to have two different talent trees. One "Illidari" and one "Demonic". Each tree whould be a hierarchy that leads to a powerfull skill at its end. The Illidari path keeps your character in their normal form (no demon) and buffs haste and versatility for example. The demonic turns you in a demon for the entire fight and buffs critical and mastery. By combining those two paths (put talent points in both trees) you sacrifice the powerfull ability but have a more versatile hero. The covenants could buff those paths in specific ways. Star Wars: The Old Republic did something similar. As a Sith Inquisitor Sorcerer I had allocated my talent points in all three trees (Force Lightning, Healing and DoTs). I never had so much fun before and since.
Hey bro, will you be doing like a final/summary of demon hunter near the release, like a m+ build/raid kind of thing?, im guessing its hard now, with maby more tuning and so on
I will definitely do that a bit closer to release. Like you said, tuning is still happening. I think we’re all crossing our fingers for some more changes 😄
Hunter is Night Fae, DH is Venthyr, just don't know where to put my destro locks, fire makes and paladin. ALL HORDE lol. Great video. I would love a video on how to kill rogues more easily. I have an add on for stealth but still learning that one...
If you math kyrian does more damage then venthyr cause no need to be in meta to apply it. Each pack of mobs you can apply kyrian instead of ventyr . I test on beta and make more number whit kyrian and if you want tank its kyrian for self healing. My two cents.😉
For necrolords I would say that they should do 1 of 2 things, either they should remove the pool of demon blood mechanic since it really only benefits the vengeance class and they should increase the benefits from the demon soul. OR they could leave pool of blood if they're dead set on having it and then have a conduit that increases the duration that the demon soul is in effect. Right now its at like 15 sec? Maybe at rank 15 it goes up to 30 sec. That would be amazing and definitely put it up as contender to venthyr.
The problem is that a lot of other classes had tier sets from the past that the developers could pull from. DH doesn’t have enough tried and tested ideas
i want to go necrolord, i will do it for my DK. For DH i will go Venthyr as the door skips and brand are just to good. I would take that on DK but it really doesnt fit my class for DK, DK for me being UH is a no brainer, a bit like DH too, even though i dont like venthyr gear i think the covenant is just to strong not to have it, plus DH is my alt so i wont mind moving it around. Great video and thanks for information
Nobody is talking about pvp.. what a lut pvp? Is Venthyr going to be okay for pvp? I know night fae would be good but i really dont want to play night fae.
Kinda funny how the best choice for DH is the only choice that's not "well it's shit" and it's actually pretty damn good. If it does get nerfed though I hope Blizzard at least have the common decency to buff the other covenant abilities.
They have nerfed the damage a bit since this video was recorded... looks like it will still be the go-to for raid though. It’s single target dmg is unmatched, plus the big aoe potential every 4 mins with meta. Kyrians Elysian decree will be the way to go if you do lots of m+ or also play vengeance
@@Jedithtv Welp, minor adjustments aside is the healing from Kyrian's covenant ability good enough of a reason to pick that covenant? Or if I'm going havoc I should just stick with Ven'thyr even for Toghast content?
@@Jedithtv and what about the 1 button build no blade dance after the unbound chaos change? FYI you're my go to DH anything channel - your guide was the best on TH-cam period, the only one that didn't speak Chinese and started from the beginning so thank you for that
@@WeazelSenpai The Unbound Chaos change hasn't made it on the live yet but once it does I'd imagine going back to Trail of Ruin would be worth it. Appreciate the kind words! :)
So by your logic, using 1 ventyre spell per 4 minutes in m+ is better than 4 kyrian, even if in 1v1 kyrian makes less dmg. I agree that for raids and pvp ventyre is the best of all of them.
@@Jedithtv regular cd of 1 min, for solotarget. This mean that it will be sloghtly better for boss fights. As you will be able to use it twice during 1 encounter, and will be much lower in dmg during any other encounters pull and big pulls in dungeon
I dunno everyone keep saying go for venthyr but night fae ability is far more interesting for m+.Sure its only 420% atack power but atleast i dont need meta to apply cleave with it.plus it heals you for 25% of the dmg you do.Will be helpfull now that we lost bit of leech and going for felbarage instead of demonic.For raids and single target yeah no doubt venthyr is better.
This expansion is going to facilitate playing alts a lot better than BFA so I’m probably going to have two mains. DH for my raid team and the other class is yet to be determined
@@Jedithtv do you think this late, there will be any more tunning? I mean its seems they haven't updated anything in awhile on beta. I was thinking hunter/dk/dh as my toons. I'm not good at UH, but frost looks strong. I'd rather be on my DH though.
This new system wow is using is unfortunate , there must be so many players that made the wrong decisions , as almost everyone on youtube is saying something different. When i went to join a covenant for my DH , almost everyone said Kyrian.
@@Jedithtv lol i know my friend , i went back and watched strictly to see how ling it took before Fel was conidered crap. Not very long . Si how long until the current best ones are considered the same ? , looks like Wow might have a foot in the mouth here.
If all values were the same i would pick NF for "the hunt" ability, feels dope!
Interesting!
For PvP, maybe. Otherwise, no. DH's don't need more mobility.
Love the practical demonstration- definitely the way to get this type of content!
Glad you enjoyed it!
From i've seen so far it doesnt seems like demon hunter has too many self healing abilites like death knight or paladin for example am i right?
So theorically when arena starts I just simply summon the demon by maldraxxus covenant. After that I can start the fight against players while the summoned demon will die. It will leave its blood on the floor and its dead body. Next I can stun the enemy player and start the 4sec channeling shield over the demons body. And boom! This way I will get the shield (with far more than 20% hp due to the dead demon) and the extra 20% damage after I get the demons soulshard.
Not sure if you can summon the demon before the arena match starts! Good thing for me to test
I mean you can summon the demon right after the gates open. Imagine that you summon the demon right at the first attack of the enemy so you will able to damage the enemy and the demon. As I saw the demon do just a really small amount of damage but you can kill it very easy by cleave damage.
So the point is that we could get a stronger shield via the summoned demon's death.
Personally I want to pick Maldraxxus. I still haven't made my mind but I lean towards the Necrolords. The Venthyr ability is indeed the "Best in Slot" one. I don't do raids (only LFR), only Mythic+. But I doubt I will have any fun with the Venthyr abilities... Will see though.
Whatever suits you! The leather set from Maldraxxus is interesting
@@Jedithtv I haven't played the alpha or the beta but from what I've seen from videos, the balance issue is going to be much bigger now. There is no freedom of choice (as they try to market it) when 1-2 covenants are far superior to the rest for specific classes.
I think they should remove the static pool of blood and have the buff be applied to the player directly. Or give us the ability to choose what demons we want to summon. Each demon can, for instance, grant us a different buff.
Evans Kan I agree completely. Getting rid of the pool would be HUGE. But that change alone would make this ability miles better than all the rest
Covenants should be mostly as a story/cosmetic option. Perhaps each covenant could also grant your character specific buffs or even change the way some abilities/talents behave.
As a havoc demon hunter I would love to have two different talent trees. One "Illidari" and one "Demonic". Each tree whould be a hierarchy that leads to a powerfull skill at its end. The Illidari path keeps your character in their normal form (no demon) and buffs haste and versatility for example. The demonic turns you in a demon for the entire fight and buffs critical and mastery.
By combining those two paths (put talent points in both trees) you sacrifice the powerfull ability but have a more versatile hero. The covenants could buff those paths in specific ways.
Star Wars: The Old Republic did something similar. As a Sith Inquisitor Sorcerer I had allocated my talent points in all three trees (Force Lightning, Healing and DoTs). I never had so much fun before and since.
Hey bro, will you be doing like a final/summary of demon hunter near the release, like a m+ build/raid kind of thing?, im guessing its hard now, with maby more tuning and so on
I will definitely do that a bit closer to release. Like you said, tuning is still happening. I think we’re all crossing our fingers for some more changes 😄
Hunter is Night Fae, DH is Venthyr, just don't know where to put my destro locks, fire makes and paladin. ALL HORDE lol. Great video. I would love a video on how to kill rogues more easily. I have an add on for stealth but still learning that one...
When you say demonic appetite isn't the go to spec is that because blind fury is the new go to for that slot?
For now, yes. May change as the expansion goes on and our stats scale
@@Jedithtv thanks man! Subbed for the great DH content.
How can blind fury be "the go to" spec when you lose 2 secs of Demonic? This goes to 4 secs of meta, and then you can hardly do a death sweep :/
If you math kyrian does more damage then venthyr cause no need to be in meta to apply it. Each pack of mobs you can apply kyrian instead of ventyr . I test on beta and make more number whit kyrian and if you want tank its kyrian for self healing. My two cents.😉
For necrolords I would say that they should do 1 of 2 things, either they should remove the pool of demon blood mechanic since it really only benefits the vengeance class and they should increase the benefits from the demon soul. OR they could leave pool of blood if they're dead set on having it and then have a conduit that increases the duration that the demon soul is in effect. Right now its at like 15 sec? Maybe at rank 15 it goes up to 30 sec. That would be amazing and definitely put it up as contender to venthyr.
Would necro not be good for tanking ? I don't really understand why it was evnn made
There’s much better options for tanking
The problem is that a lot of other classes had tier sets from the past that the developers could pull from. DH doesn’t have enough tried and tested ideas
DH and Night Fae will be special :D
i want to go necrolord, i will do it for my DK. For DH i will go Venthyr as the door skips and brand are just to good. I would take that on DK but it really doesnt fit my class for DK, DK for me being UH is a no brainer, a bit like DH too, even though i dont like venthyr gear i think the covenant is just to strong not to have it, plus DH is my alt so i wont mind moving it around. Great video and thanks for information
Good luck on your DK! Unholy rocks
i would pick necrolords if wasnt for the player powers
Maldraxxus has a cool vibe!
Nobody is talking about pvp.. what a lut pvp? Is Venthyr going to be okay for pvp? I know night fae would be good but i really dont want to play night fae.
If you pvp and don’t want night fae I’d go with kyrian. The soul fragments are very helpful and the dmg is good. Sinful brand can be dispelled
Really enjoy the videos, very informative
Thanks!
Kinda funny how the best choice for DH is the only choice that's not "well it's shit" and it's actually pretty damn good.
If it does get nerfed though I hope Blizzard at least have the common decency to buff the other covenant abilities.
They have nerfed the damage a bit since this video was recorded... looks like it will still be the go-to for raid though. It’s single target dmg is unmatched, plus the big aoe potential every 4 mins with meta.
Kyrians Elysian decree will be the way to go if you do lots of m+ or also play vengeance
@@Jedithtv
Welp, minor adjustments aside is the healing from Kyrian's covenant ability good enough of a reason to pick that covenant?
Or if I'm going havoc I should just stick with Ven'thyr even for Toghast content?
@@SirePuns I think if you decided to go kyrian you wouldn’t regret it one bit :)
Very helpful and informative. Keep up the great work, Jed!
Thanks mediocre!
This needs an updated version after all the changes....
It’s slightly outdated. Generally still accurate though. Venthyr and kyrian the best choices
@@Jedithtv and what about the 1 button build no blade dance after the unbound chaos change?
FYI you're my go to DH anything channel - your guide was the best on TH-cam period, the only one that didn't speak Chinese and started from the beginning so thank you for that
@@WeazelSenpai The Unbound Chaos change hasn't made it on the live yet but once it does I'd imagine going back to Trail of Ruin would be worth it.
Appreciate the kind words! :)
yea right! im choosing purely on fantasy
Leave your fantasies at the door proizo!
Do Demon Hunters get a demon soul for killing a warlock pet?
LOL good question. I don’t know
Well test it out!!!!! I havnt been playing due to me and wife having a baby
So by your logic, using 1 ventyre spell per 4 minutes in m+ is better than 4 kyrian, even if in 1v1 kyrian makes less dmg. I agree that for raids and pvp ventyre is the best of all of them.
You’re not “only” using sinful brand every 4 mins. You also have it on its regular cooldown
@@Jedithtv regular cd of 1 min, for solotarget. This mean that it will be sloghtly better for boss fights. As you will be able to use it twice during 1 encounter, and will be much lower in dmg during any other encounters pull and big pulls in dungeon
I dunno everyone keep saying go for venthyr but night fae ability is far more interesting for m+.Sure its only 420% atack power but atleast i dont need meta to apply cleave with it.plus it heals you for 25% of the dmg you do.Will be helpfull now that we lost bit of leech and going for felbarage instead of demonic.For raids and single target yeah no doubt venthyr is better.
420%!? I like dem numbers
Are you still maining DH? I remember you were thinking of moving towards warrior or another class.
This expansion is going to facilitate playing alts a lot better than BFA so I’m probably going to have two mains. DH for my raid team and the other class is yet to be determined
@@Jedithtv do you think this late, there will be any more tunning? I mean its seems they haven't updated anything in awhile on beta. I was thinking hunter/dk/dh as my toons. I'm not good at UH, but frost looks strong. I'd rather be on my DH though.
Dorian Morgraine casually strolls by...
Spoiler alert
I cant decide if I should play dh in sl or change to another class....how does looks dh at moment?
Check out some of my other videos for that information :)
"ZA HANTO" is the best spell
ZA HANTO
I think your target has to have sinful brand on them in order for the AOE ability to activate lol
So it’s a 2 ability thing not just pop meta
It just doesn’t work on the target dummies for some stupid reason. Beta be beta. Good thing they delayed release huh?
Sinful brand has been nerfed to oblivion. Not the go to anymore.
5 Month old video
0:21 oops
This new system wow is using is unfortunate , there must be so many players that made the wrong decisions , as almost everyone on youtube is saying something different. When i went to join a covenant for my DH , almost everyone said Kyrian.
Keep in mind this video is pretty outdated. Be sure to check the post date when looking to videos for information
@@Jedithtv lol i know my friend , i went back and watched strictly to see how ling it took before Fel was conidered crap. Not very long . Si how long until the current best ones are considered the same ? , looks like Wow might have a foot in the mouth here.
yeah but can you fucking tripple jump yet
I can but don’t tell anyone
Jedith :O
I'm just here so I dont get fined
You’re safe. For now.
Gotta love my vamps....
Nah, fam. I go for style and what meets my fantasy the most. DPS second.
No choice. Best possible choice will be the venthyr no matter how much i hate the lady boys🤦♂️🤦♂️🥺🥺
The lady boys 🤣