This is hands down the most realistic add-on there is IMHO. People say oh you dont need to see all the engine parameters working etc., and they are right you dont.. But what you need to remember is this is actually a reflection of how this plane is being simulated, those parameters of which there is Engine, AIR, GPS positions, Fuel etc. etc. are actually what is happening in side your sim. None of it is faked, none of it is just for show, it is real time it is happening as you watch it is beyond even XP's default FDE stuff, it is a sim within a sim, It is amazing. For those wondering: It is very complex but it has a Virtual FO, that really helps with interactive check lists. It is not a kick tires and light the fires plane, but it also isn't or does not need to be a 2 hour start up process It has simbrief integration + Charts with AviTab It is a joy to fly The Avionics are I think 1:1 with Real life for almost everything and things you would never use, except things you just cant simulate. The performance is great despite how complex it is and it has a mini RPG element to it and even that is a choice. FL410 at a good speed, I crossed the Atlantic in it EINN-KBOS is just under 7 hours once in XP of course.
The Hotstart Challenger, the true to the core ultrahardcoreprosimmer-toy! I absolutely love it, and the hype became real when activating these pop-up windows showing all the technical details about the turbine, the electric, even the APU and the airstreams around the plane with pressure and temperatures. The Fenix Airbus and the Hotstart Challenger and one could be happy forever flight simming!
I am actually gonna buy the CL650 on the 15th. This video came timed perfectly! Amazing aircraft! Very happy that I made the switch to XP12 ❤ keep it up!
@737NGDriver I use both simulators as well and I think you would be doing yourself an injustice to pick one over the other. Both are great and have strengths to them, so why not just have them all. Great time to be a flight simmer. Both excellent products! My hard drive will beg to differ though.
THIS is the content I've been hoping for, Emi and Toto with the amazing Chally😊 The videos that follow are going to be awesome! I bought XP12 specifically to fly the 650. Amazing detail. Worth every penny (and more).
I had it for xplane 11 and now u made me download again for xp12, not sure I completely forgot I had it, maybe because I wasn't using xplane 12 for a while but you are definitely motivating some of us to use it again, this video, the toliss ones etc, for sure u can have a balance of fleet between msfs2020 and xplane 12, thanks for the great job!!!
it looks hillarious to hear a professional, talking about his great child, that he and his team put thousands of hours into, and at the same time seeing a minecraft-ish character walking around and doing stuff
Well done Gentleman. An incredible must have aircraft for biz jet enthusiasts, and for sim pilots wanting a super in depth flight model. As close to real life as possible.
WOW, even I don't have xplane I love to watch😊 How nice explained! How many details!Looking forward for the next videos. And please bring it to the msfs!!
Great video and amazing to have Toto onboard. This addon is for sure a masterpiece. At the same time I don‘t fly it often because having to „scroll“ through all options by using the knobs is a bit of a pain for me. But that is just how the real aircraft works. I am looking forward to the A220 from Toto that should be a bit „easier“ to handle 😊
I know what you mean - but did you know you can open most of those panels as 2D panels so that it becomes easier to handle them? Still not an optimal solution, but better than nothing!
@@A330Driver Thanks Emmanuel. Indeed I knew that. It‘s more about all the knobs (smaller ones inside bigger ones) opening different menus on the screens 😀🙈
It is so great! I am really glad that I have better performance now with the new XP12 beta, cause I really don't want to decide for only one Sim... MSFS and XP12 both have their own benefits ✈️
@@jcrosby4804 what? I mainly use MSFS now which is why I only have xp 11 installed for this aircraft. I also don’t fancy buying xp 12 just for the one aircraft.
@@jcrosby4804 better lighting, better clouds, better flight dynamics, better airports, better weather system etc.... You can watch any of my recent streams here on youtube and compare it with your XP11 copy and see if you feel it is worth it. If you have any more questions, I would be happy to answer.
I work at its birthplace and our engineers would be in complete amazement if they see how detailed this addon is. I told one about it but he wants it to be in MSFS. Oh well, me too! 😇
👍Finally. This is truly a great plane. It took me many hours to start flying 'correctly' this beauty and that's exactly why I more often prefer X-Plane over MSFS. I recommend the channel Foxtrot Alpha Aviation. Join Rob ‘Hammer’ is a Challenger 605/650 Captain and he explains many things related to this aircraft there. btw. Great video. Thank you.
Toto has said it’s not possible due to the limitations of msfs. Xplane allows for a much more robust system simulation. Pretty sure msfs would bust apart at the seems….
This is not true @@PKerusso. Aerosoft, PDMG, A2A and Just Flight have done a ton of simulation work which doesn't rely on the native aerodynamics support. How do you think helicopters were put into the sim before they were officially supported? The A2A Comanche has it's own independant flight model, wear and tear and persistance in MSFS and is probably the best known example to date.
Hats off to the developers! Aircraft development for XPlane is much more streamlined and easier, in comparison to MSFS, and it's no wonder that XPlane allows for such detailed aircraft.
also, the available selectio of high quality aircraft for xp is much better. a320 319 321 757 767 cl650 md80 md11 crj....and many more. in msfs you have fenix, pmdg, leonardo, thats it.
@maltimoto It matters only if you care about airliners. MSFS has better GA aircaft, way better Garmin avionics, and a lot of default aircraft that is VATSIM ready at least.
@@Michael-zf1ko There is a reason complex airliners aren't modeled as well though. The MSFS SDK is horrendous to work with, it is incomplete and lacks many essential functions and features (WX integration etc.). When I worked on MSFS addons, they were a pain in the ass to develop since you must relaunch your sim to test the effects ingame (instead of just reloading the aircraft like in XPlane). Couple this with a lackluster documentation and you double your development hours.
@@Michael-zf1ko I don‘t think it is possble to have a much better GA than the TBM900 or the Airfoillabs C172 in XP. I know only about the Comanche in MSFS that seems absolutely brilliant. What do you think is better in the other GA‘s knowing the flightmodel isn‘t quite on par with XP‘s one?
@@Michael-zf1ko That's right. Actually I am using MSFS for VFR because MSFS has better ground scenery and the GA aircraft are really good (Comanche, Chancellor, Milviz). For airliners, X-Plane.
I’m truly speechless. Awestruck by the detailed and thorough explanations and systems depth here. This aircraft is so beyond anything I’ve seen for a flight simulation platform. Does anyone know if this developer plans to bring this aircraft to the MSFS 2020 or 2024 platforms?
You can get ice on wing even when you are not in the sim. They made it so it somehow looks up the weather for last 24 hours a d if if sees the right conditions it adds ice 😂
I can honestly recommend it! There's nothing wrong with running MSFS and XP12 next to one another and with a couple of freeware mods (most Auto Ortho, AviTab and Better Pushback) you get your XP to look good. Default airports are good enough to fly to them and to use the sim without having to invest too much.
Really nice video spoiled a bit by the Minecraft walking around obstructing the view.. Pls do the next videos without the distraction.. appreciate the series very much btw.
I’m too scared to buy or fly this plane as I’m not smart enough let’s hope there’s some training vids. What I’ve seen and watch for this plane it is clearly a league above anything when comes to realism impressive dedication and attention to detail
You don’t need to be smart, just an interested student 😊 It’s certainly in depth and takes awhile to get the hang off. As long as you follow the checklists - you’ll be up and running
Beautiful plane, you have to be a real enthusiast to deal with this level of detail. For me it's too much, and so is the asking price - 140 dollars for a jet? It looks an exceptional plane from a renown developer but unless you are going to invest several 100 hours into this, it's probably overkill.
This aircraft is not worth 140 Euros it is worth 1400 Euros, a masterpiece!
This is hands down the most realistic add-on there is IMHO. People say oh you dont need to see all the engine parameters working etc., and they are right you dont.. But what you need to remember is this is actually a reflection of how this plane is being simulated, those parameters of which there is Engine, AIR, GPS positions, Fuel etc. etc. are actually what is happening in side your sim. None of it is faked, none of it is just for show, it is real time it is happening as you watch it is beyond even XP's default FDE stuff, it is a sim within a sim, It is amazing.
For those wondering:
It is very complex but it has a Virtual FO, that really helps with interactive check lists.
It is not a kick tires and light the fires plane, but it also isn't or does not need to be a 2 hour start up process
It has simbrief integration + Charts with AviTab
It is a joy to fly
The Avionics are I think 1:1 with Real life for almost everything and things you would never use, except things you just cant simulate.
The performance is great despite how complex it is and it has a mini RPG element to it and even that is a choice. FL410 at a good speed, I crossed the Atlantic in it EINN-KBOS is just under 7 hours once in XP of course.
The Hotstart Challenger, the true to the core ultrahardcoreprosimmer-toy! I absolutely love it, and the hype became real when activating these pop-up windows showing all the technical details about the turbine, the electric, even the APU and the airstreams around the plane with pressure and temperatures. The Fenix Airbus and the Hotstart Challenger and one could be happy forever flight simming!
This is truly a must-have for all flightsim enthusiasts
I bought it soon as it became available on XP12, never have I once flown it lol
I agree 💯. It’s an amazing aircraft and has many features never seen in a flight simulator.
Can't wait for the rest of Hotstart CL650 adventures! My fav so far!
I am actually gonna buy the CL650 on the 15th. This video came timed perfectly! Amazing aircraft! Very happy that I made the switch to XP12 ❤ keep it up!
I'm using both simulators these days and couldn't be happier with that decision. Both have their own qualities.
@737NGDriver I use both simulators as well and I think you would be doing yourself an injustice to pick one over the other. Both are great and have strengths to them, so why not just have them all. Great time to be a flight simmer. Both excellent products! My hard drive will beg to differ though.
@@ikennamadueke9131 I would love to use both but my SSD simply hasn’t enough space… and I really have to go with the sim that can handle the CL650😂😅
I’ve owned this since it was released. I learned a lot watching this stream. Thank you!
Great to hear!
I love the walkaround with a flashlight, Xplane rocks!
THIS is the content I've been hoping for, Emi and Toto with the amazing Chally😊 The videos that follow are going to be awesome!
I bought XP12 specifically to fly the 650. Amazing detail. Worth every penny (and more).
Yay! Thank you!
If you were allowed to name only one aircraft "study level", THIS is the one.
Yep, it certainly is.
I love the detail of this aircraft, it is quite remarkable.
I had it for xplane 11 and now u made me download again for xp12, not sure I completely forgot I had it, maybe because I wasn't using xplane 12 for a while but you are definitely motivating some of us to use it again, this video, the toliss ones etc, for sure u can have a balance of fleet between msfs2020 and xplane 12, thanks for the great job!!!
As a Bombardier Challenger Mechanic, this is pretty accurate
the fact that u guys are minecraft characters is amazing, ive never wanted to buy this addon more then ever now hahaha
Can’t wait to see more! 🤯
it looks hillarious to hear a professional, talking about his great child, that he and his team put thousands of hours into, and at the same time seeing a minecraft-ish character walking around and doing stuff
Amazing detail. So nice to hear about all the features and depth of simulated systems. Wow
More to come!
Tbh I was on the fence with this one until this video. Now I got it, me and my friend are already doing walkarounds and having a blast
Only seen 3 minutes and I love this kind of videos!❤
Well done Gentleman. An incredible must have aircraft for biz jet enthusiasts, and for sim pilots wanting a super in depth flight model. As close to real life as possible.
WOW, even I don't have xplane I love to watch😊 How nice explained! How many details!Looking forward for the next videos. And please bring it to the msfs!!
What a masterpiece!
By far the best aircraft I have ever flown at any sim
A very interesting video with some great explanations, i am really looking forward to the next parts ;)
Thanks! 😃
Great video and amazing to have Toto onboard. This addon is for sure a masterpiece. At the same time I don‘t fly it often because having to „scroll“ through all options by using the knobs is a bit of a pain for me. But that is just how the real aircraft works. I am looking forward to the A220 from Toto that should be a bit „easier“ to handle 😊
I know what you mean - but did you know you can open most of those panels as 2D panels so that it becomes easier to handle them? Still not an optimal solution, but better than nothing!
@@A330Driver Thanks Emmanuel. Indeed I knew that. It‘s more about all the knobs (smaller ones inside bigger ones) opening different menus on the screens 😀🙈
In 1.8 beta you have ghost panels when you hover with mouse over screens @@frankbyte
@@jakobmarolt1449 That sounds great. I haven‘t installed that beta yet but this could help, indeed. Will test this version. Thanks for the info 👍
Cannot wait for the next video
I have this plane and cannot wait for the new 1.8 version
Fantastic Video, I kind of regret abandoning Xplane just for the hotstart products but DCS + MSFS is already a handful of TB of space
What I think is I am enjoying your variety of contents you are moving into! SUBSCRIBED!
Awesome! Thank you! Welcome aboard!
Would so love to see this ported to MSFS, instant buy.
Indeed, same for me!
thank you for the two excellent tutorial Eric (france)
Fantastic aircraft model!
It is so great! I am really glad that I have better performance now with the new XP12 beta, cause I really don't want to decide for only one Sim... MSFS and XP12 both have their own benefits ✈️
He must take this over to msfs!!
Wow. Great vid!! Thanks
Fantastic video ❤
Excellent external preflight. I was hoping to see the external emergency lights and APU air inlet modeled, maybe something for the future.
Instant buy when available in MSFS.
Absolutely!
This aircraft is the only reason i still have xp11 installed. Hats off to Hotstart.
@@jcrosby4804 what? I mainly use MSFS now which is why I only have xp 11 installed for this aircraft. I also don’t fancy buying xp 12 just for the one aircraft.
It works with 12
@@jcrosby4804 better lighting, better clouds, better flight dynamics, better airports, better weather system etc....
You can watch any of my recent streams here on youtube and compare it with your XP11 copy and see if you feel it is worth it. If you have any more questions, I would be happy to answer.
@@jcrosby4804 I am not sure of the benefits. I know graphics have improved and weather modeling.
It works with xp12 but I get sub 18fps. Not aircrafts issue, just xplane lol.
I work at its birthplace and our engineers would be in complete amazement if they see how detailed this addon is. I told one about it but he wants it to be in MSFS. Oh well, me too! 😇
Yeah as great as this is, MSFS is the place to be right now and 140 dollars for a plane on the X-Plane platform just seems a bit much.
So far an impressive detail. I’m interested now.
More to come soon!
👍Finally. This is truly a great plane. It took me many hours to start flying 'correctly' this beauty and that's exactly why I more often prefer X-Plane over MSFS. I recommend the channel Foxtrot Alpha Aviation. Join Rob ‘Hammer’ is a Challenger 605/650 Captain and he explains many things related to this aircraft there.
btw. Great video. Thank you.
I love that aircraft, still don't know how to fly it "correctly" aha
Really interesting and nicely narrated. Great aircraft. A must buy.
It really is!
Looks like a highly-detailed mod. Hopefully they can produce a version for MSFS2020.
Toto has said it’s not possible due to the limitations of msfs. Xplane allows for a much more robust system simulation. Pretty sure msfs would bust apart at the seems….
This is not true @@PKerusso. Aerosoft, PDMG, A2A and Just Flight have done a ton of simulation work which doesn't rely on the native aerodynamics support. How do you think helicopters were put into the sim before they were officially supported? The A2A Comanche has it's own independant flight model, wear and tear and persistance in MSFS and is probably the best known example to date.
Purchased today. Im a beginner. Nut best purchase
Hats off to the developers! Aircraft development for XPlane is much more streamlined and easier, in comparison to MSFS, and it's no wonder that XPlane allows for such detailed aircraft.
also, the available selectio of high quality aircraft for xp is much better. a320 319 321 757 767 cl650 md80 md11 crj....and many more. in msfs you have fenix, pmdg, leonardo, thats it.
@maltimoto It matters only if you care about airliners. MSFS has better GA aircaft, way better Garmin avionics, and a lot of default aircraft that is VATSIM ready at least.
@@Michael-zf1ko There is a reason complex airliners aren't modeled as well though. The MSFS SDK is horrendous to work with, it is incomplete and lacks many essential functions and features (WX integration etc.). When I worked on MSFS addons, they were a pain in the ass to develop since you must relaunch your sim to test the effects ingame (instead of just reloading the aircraft like in XPlane). Couple this with a lackluster documentation and you double your development hours.
@@Michael-zf1ko I don‘t think it is possble to have a much better GA than the TBM900 or the Airfoillabs C172 in XP. I know only about the Comanche in MSFS that seems absolutely brilliant. What do you think is better in the other GA‘s knowing the flightmodel isn‘t quite on par with XP‘s one?
@@Michael-zf1ko That's right. Actually I am using MSFS for VFR because MSFS has better ground scenery and the GA aircraft are really good (Comanche, Chancellor, Milviz). For airliners, X-Plane.
Wait until you see the HOTSTART A220 when it comes out in the future. It will definitely be next level.
That's certainly something I'm very much looking forward to!
it is fantastic airplane , will be awesome if you could do the Challenger 6000 ,7000 or 8000
I’m truly speechless. Awestruck by the detailed and thorough explanations and systems depth here. This aircraft is so beyond anything I’ve seen for a flight simulation platform. Does anyone know if this developer plans to bring this aircraft to the MSFS 2020 or 2024 platforms?
I do unfortunately not know about MSFS.
You can get ice on wing even when you are not in the sim. They made it so it somehow looks up the weather for last 24 hours a d if if sees the right conditions it adds ice 😂
wow, now that's quite something!
@737NGDriver even more crazy, the aircraft does not use sim position to tell it we're it is, it uses a custom GPS almanac to triangulate its position
I might have to get Xplane12 for this plane. Unless someone else decides to finally develop a long range GA aircraft for Msfs.
It‘s more of a business jet and not a GA 😉
@@frankbyte business jet. GA. Same thing.
@@soviet_salsa2983 You are right. I just saw that in the definition. So you can ignore my comment 😊
I can honestly recommend it! There's nothing wrong with running MSFS and XP12 next to one another and with a couple of freeware mods (most Auto Ortho, AviTab and Better Pushback) you get your XP to look good. Default airports are good enough to fly to them and to use the sim without having to invest too much.
Just sad that the next part never came out :(
where is the next part? its been half a year
ah yes, the most detailed airplane has minecraft characters as people lmao
Amazing
I soooo wish this was for MSFS!
Really nice video spoiled a bit by the Minecraft walking around obstructing the view.. Pls do the next videos without the distraction.. appreciate the series very much btw.
Holy shit how much is this
I was thinking about getting this aircraft, but would like to know if any virtual airlines support flying it?
I’m too scared to buy or fly this plane as I’m not smart enough let’s hope there’s some training vids. What I’ve seen and watch for this plane it is clearly a league above anything when comes to realism impressive dedication and attention to detail
You don’t need to be smart, just an interested student 😊
It’s certainly in depth and takes awhile to get the hang off.
As long as you follow the checklists - you’ll be up and running
Search for Reflected Reality videos for tutorials
NEW A330 News!
When will the next one come out? Asking for a friend ^^ Great stuff by the way!
I'm working on it
Beautiful plane, you have to be a real enthusiast to deal with this level of detail. For me it's too much, and so is the asking price - 140 dollars for a jet? It looks an exceptional plane from a renown developer but unless you are going to invest several 100 hours into this, it's probably overkill.
$114, not $140. :)
Love this plane! Awaitng for mfs version of this bird🎉
❤
What is the name of this simulator? Is msfs 2020?
X-Plane 12 and the addon is the Hotstart Challenger 650.
@@A330Driver Thanks
I hate the Hot Start Challenger 650. I hate it. Here's why - th-cam.com/video/DBjlCsVW2XI/w-d-xo.html
LOL