Considering the American occupation of the Philippines and other Spanish territories after their victory over Spain only 20 years before, their suspicion of Italian motives seem more than a little hypocritical, however well founded they were.
Maybe, maybe not. After all, it's not like those annexations were popular in America at the time, never mind later. Due to the changing nature of the American government and political system it's entirely possible for a president to say with a straight face that they do not support something that their predecessor not only supported by fought a bloody war to achieve. That said, Wilson was a racist power-hoarding jackass who damaged American democracy significantly. He certainly did not have a leg to stand on lecturing the Europeans when he had spent so much time trying to make American more like them.
Worth remembering there was a substantial share of US population that opposed the Spanish War, opposed the annexations, and the U S Senate actually voted down the annexation of Hawaii. Yet in the 20 years sine we were still in PR and the Philippines.......... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newlands_Resolution
This video here is probably the main reason WW1 is kind of bypassed in most 20th century history classes. I've been reading about the background politics for the Great War for a long time, and watching this channel for longer, and my head is still spinning. My high school history teacher (who was a fantastic teacher, BTW) would talk for hours on the cultural and political background on any given topic we'd go over, but when it came to the WW1, he'd just shake his head and say "Europe being Europe" and cover the broad strokes to get past it. Now I do wish I could go back and talk with him about it.
Even thought we call this "modern war" the lack of fighting in winter does remind me more of the older ways of war. Like During the American Civil war or The American Revolutionary war.
who i cought up! i found this channel while surfing youtube and got hooked, started from year one and here i am, cant wait for the next episode to be uploaded!
The Austro-Hungurian Empire was finished by this time I give Emperor Karl props for trying to hold it together. But in the end he could only do so much. Great job.
I love that you said Game of Thrones. That's what I've thought about every episode of the show so far. If people like Game of Thrones so much they should read a history book
Please do something or anything on the Ghurkhas or Kukri on Indi's desk. I work with these guys. The Regt with the most Victoria Crosses in British Army. 3 in The Great War.
That is why every Empire falls, it just builds up to a point where no man can rule alone and everyone wants his head. Sadly, some people still don't understand it
I think there is a point when time kills the Empire if it's not modernizing permanently. The whole Austro-Hungarian construction was completely outdated by 1900. It was a thing belonging to the middle ages where one autocrat rules over multiple nations but with all the Nation states and Nationalism it had to break as modernization wasn't all the rage with the Emperor (who was born 9 years after Napoleon died and had seen Napoleon III rise and fall, had seen the unification of Germany without Austria, the Crimean war, the colonization of Asia and Africa) and the nobility espacially the Hungarian Magnats. A partition into 4-5 different parts for something like Austria-Hungary-Austrian Yugoslavia-North Slavia-Transylvania would have helped much. Franz Ferdinand even had some plans for United States of Greater Austria where Austria would have consisted out of 15 states united under the Emperor.
Great as usual, Indy and Team! However, it would be valuable to remember, that while Germans thought the Russian socialists and the bolsheviks in particular, were just a vessel for the German Cause, the bolsheviks themselves, and Trotsky in particular - as a keen internationalist, thought the Germans served their purpose as a vessel for the Worldwide socialist revolution. And for now bolsheviks are trying hard to get rid of their German sponsors and establish Post-Imerial Russia as a starting pod for Worldwide revolution. Each party at B.-L. was just trying to use the other side as it was intended, not taking into account the wishes of the other side. And that was the root of tensions.
If only Italy would have stayed neutral. There were no urgent reasons to join and as it is so many lives were lost for so little gain and the impact of the war contributed greatly to the rise of fascism in Italy, which in turn also greatly boosted and shaped the rise of nazism in Germany. Personally I believe the Entente would have won anyway sooner or later, largely due to the naval blockade.
Well yes, but 44 more Austrian divisions couldnt hurt right? And imagine the spring offensive on the western front suppurted by the Austrian army? Or those troops helping in Romania or Solonica freeing up more german divisons for the western front.
It would change a lot of things, I am just stating my personal belief, depending on different factors it could go either way. For example without the italian naval support in the mediterranean the Entente could decide that Gallipoli would be too risky, which would actually be better for them. Over-reliance on austro-hungarian troops in the east could prove to be a mistake and enable a russian breakthrough. Without Italy there is a fair chance that Romania would not have joined either which means an ally less, but Romania was also seen by some as a liability and as more beneficial as a neutral nation, because Germany would be less likely to try to go through it into Russia. Without Romanias entry Falkenhayn would probably keep being the chief of staff for a while which would change a lot of things, without some of Hindenburgs and Ludendorffs moves like sending Lenin or building the Hindenberg line to minimize the need of troops in the west it is possible that the eastern front would not have fallen as fast. The far east would have been a loss to the Central Powers anyway, likely the african front as well soone ror later and ultimately I think it is less likely for the Central Powers to win both the eastern and western front before american support comes in full, (especially considering the internal strife in Austria-Hungary and the Ottoman Empire) assuming that the US still joins, which while up for debate I think is relatively likely. I think a sooner peace treaty would be more likely with the Entente less confident and Cental Powers still surrounded and with less overall resources.
Hello Indy and crew. Have y'all covered the cost of a solider. Was just wondering because I've heard since ww2 it's 100x more expensive. Also I've learned so much more from this channel then high school!
Blah b Keep in mind that many armies nowadays are volunteer only, and most certainly aren't on the scale of those in the world wars. Smaller armies generally means more money is spent on each soldier.
Hello to everyone at 'The Great War'. You guys talk of the machinations within both the Austro-Hungarian and the German high commands, and how the conflicting demands risk toppling the entire edifice. Given that this is so, isn't it in the interests of the German high command to try and secure better terms that would allow the Austrians to continue fighting? Or are they simply not aware of how fragile their ally's situation is.
They were aware. But they didn't particularly care. The widespread view among the German staff was that they were "shackled to a corpse", as the phrase goes.
Well it also came down to the fighting going on in Europe and not America. Their industry and other money making facilities were damaged or destroyed while the US sold things and kept their facilities up and running.
Hi Indy and crew, I’ve been a big fan of the show since early 1916 and the show has really cultivated my love for history. However, I have a European history class with friends not as adamant about the war as I am and we are approaching the World War 1 unit. So my question for out of the trenches is this: could you briefly summarize the long lasting social and economic effects of the war on Europe? Thanks, and keep up the great work.
Hey Indy and the crew, i live the show it is reslly good and i aleays wanted to know this but did Austro Hungry had their own tanks during WW1 and where did they use them? Keep up the good work love you!!
Question for out of the trenches: What DID the Bolsheviks disclose, with all the secret treaties and agreements going on in Europe, and what impact did that have on the post-war situation? Or maybe even on the war situation itself in the last year of the war?
Hey crew, has there been a special episode about conscious objectors during the war yet? Don't quite remember. If not, I'm pretty sure you are going to make one in the future, right? It is an interesting and heavy topic
Putting people into jails because they refuse to be sent to the front as canon folders or simply advocate for peace. In the frenzy of war, "national interests" can triumph individuals like an elephant stamping an ant, even in self branded "civilized nations" of Western Europe, this is truly horrifying
Hi Indy, the show is great! Is there a special episode of the traison of Alfre d Redl, the colonel of austrian imperial intelligence servire, who sold the austrian mobilization plans to the Russians shortly before the war?
Thank you for explaining why these days there's a war on where ages ago, where there wasn't a war on and the moment when there not being a war on went away.
Hi thanks for the viedeo its brilliant and intéressant 😉 But dont forget to say that in the battle of the marne 1914 some french from the fith army with the british went into the gap... not only the british. Youre videos are the best
So, if those weren't rightfully Italian lands, neither Jugoslavia should've been formed or Romania gotten Transylvania since its majority is Hungarian.
Will you be going over US opposition to the war at home such a the sedition act or the extreme anti German views taken up by many people during the war
Hey thanks a lot for the show, this episode was awesome as usual ;) but is there any chance that something is happening in the salonika front. Haven’t heard anything from there in ages ?
An interesting story. Once all Italian claims to the eastern shore of the Adriatic have been refused, they resorted to something like this: If a naval attack would come towards us from future Yugoslavia, it would come at dawn as naval attacks usually do, and since the Sun rises from the East, our ships and coastal guns wouldn't be able to see Yugoslav ships. That's why we need the eastern shore.
Finally you've said it: This IS a Game of Thrones! It always has been. But the Starks have never understood that. Until now. Because now Winter (the End) is Coming!
I find it almost unbelievable that an experienced leader, like Franz Josef (having experienced first hand, Germany's land greed), could have been so naive about the strength of Russia, England, France, Italy and he didn't even consider the USA (a new land and sea empire)! I wonder if he was beginning to go senile?
I've been thinking lately, also judging from the perspective of post-war European political map: of all the victorious nations, Italy had the smallest gains and they were obtained through large human losses. Which leads me to another idea: they had the weakest motivation to enter the war in the first place. They sacrificed hundreds of thousands of young men for South Tirol, which is not even so overwhelmingly Italian in the first place and has little to no economic value or strategic importance. They entered the slaughter house for some mountains. You can't really count Dalmatia or the Greek Islands or Istria or the Isonzo Valley as valid national objectives, since they were no more than some nostalgic and imperialistic ambitions of somehow restoring a long-lost glory of a long-last Roman Empire. They were not territories inhabited by Italians longing to return to the Fatherland, but just some politicians' fantasies.
Could you please answer this question on Out of the Trenches? Were there any soldiers on any of the fronts who actually enjoyed the War? I'm thinking along the lines of the like of 'Mad Jack' Churchill of WW2 fame. Thanks for the great show. I'm currently watching all your videos and have just arrived at 1916. #OutoftheTrenches
Hey Indy Neidell I got a question that is not necessarily related to the war but considering the war is going to end in 1918 (November out of the top of my head) are you going make a different history show or are you going to stop making videos all together? Sorry that this is not really a World War 1 related question but I still would like to know.
Ahoy Indy, how about a special on Suke Bator: the Mongolian national hero? You guys have already researched Mongolia's history already when you did the special on Roman von Ungern-Sternberg.
It wasn't until near the end of WWII, in the Yalta Conference that Stalin forced the Western nations to officially recognize the sovereignty of Mongolia as a nation. And China by then had no choice but to accept those decisions.
Game of thrones, house of cards and ww1 in one. If a show could be created while all of that was implemented then i would watch it.This one not included, sorry Indy and producers.( But i still watch this channel)
Welcome to the Austrian roulette, where every choice you make leads to destruction ! Kinda ironic that this war started because Austria-Hungary (Hötzendorf) wanted to expand its frontiers for the prosperity of the Empire in the first place XD
There was no expansion of the frontiers planned. The war against Serbia was started with the specific decision among the Austro-Hungarians that there would be no annexation of new territory. Serbia and Montenegro would be made puppets, but not integrated.
This was mostly the position of Hungary and some Higher-ups in Austria. But i specified Conrad von Hotzendorf, who HE was mainly responsible for pushing to war in the Balkans and wanted to expand, expand and expand. I invite you to watch again the Special about him : th-cam.com/video/NE8-_GAc7g4/w-d-xo.html
Everyone had their own motives and Europe was a powder keg ready to explode indeed. But in our time line, WW1 started between Austria-Hungary and Serbia because Hotzendorf wanted a war of expansion and took the opportunity offered by the execution of Franz Ferdinand to advance his personnal ambition.
"If that sounds confusing...... don't worry it'll only get worse." That is the best description I've heard of politics in YEARS.
"This isn't a House of Cards. This is a Game of Thrones."
-Best Quotes of Indy Neidell, 2018
Look at these troops running into no mans land, what is this? Some kind of Suicide squad?
You mean most cringeworthy
I thought he was going to say "This is Orange is the New Black".
Roll those credits baby
*DING*
This is a very tough situation for the Empire - but I'm certain we will live through it!
lol
Which empire -_-
They could have won , If IT make Peace to italy early -mid1918.
You should tip Netflix, I would watch that! "HOUSE OF CARDS - AUSTRO-HUNGARIAN EDITION"
Difference is instead of a thriller it would be a black comedy
Yeah, but I mean I like black comedy, don't you?
"The last edition, for more drama :)
Why Netflix if you have Indy for free? :D
+joehoe222 you can pirate from Netflix
5:25 "...it'll take a moment to explain..." that's a mild understatement, Indy!
The Italians made to US an offer they couldn't refuse...
V. Athanasiou A spicy meatball.
*gesticulates emotively*
you cracked me :D
They sent Mario to fix White House plumbing.
Wilson forgot the 15th Point: this channel must absolutely go on when the war is over... lest we forget...
Considering the American occupation of the Philippines and other Spanish territories after their victory over Spain only 20 years before, their suspicion of Italian motives seem more than a little hypocritical, however well founded they were.
Politicians as a whole are hypocritical. And that's why the war started really, politics.
Hey, Murica.... or some other load of tripe! 😉
Maybe, maybe not. After all, it's not like those annexations were popular in America at the time, never mind later. Due to the changing nature of the American government and political system it's entirely possible for a president to say with a straight face that they do not support something that their predecessor not only supported by fought a bloody war to achieve.
That said, Wilson was a racist power-hoarding jackass who damaged American democracy significantly. He certainly did not have a leg to stand on lecturing the Europeans when he had spent so much time trying to make American more like them.
Politicians, and humans in general. :)
Worth remembering there was a substantial share of US population that opposed the Spanish War, opposed the annexations, and the U S Senate actually voted down the annexation of Hawaii. Yet in the 20 years sine we were still in PR and the Philippines..........
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newlands_Resolution
This video here is probably the main reason WW1 is kind of bypassed in most 20th century history classes. I've been reading about the background politics for the Great War for a long time, and watching this channel for longer, and my head is still spinning. My high school history teacher (who was a fantastic teacher, BTW) would talk for hours on the cultural and political background on any given topic we'd go over, but when it came to the WW1, he'd just shake his head and say "Europe being Europe" and cover the broad strokes to get past it. Now I do wish I could go back and talk with him about it.
"Europe being Europe" as an European I somewhat identity in that
Yeah, we europeans are rather strange. Hej from Sweden!
Cool, half my family is Swedish. Skol! to Sweden!
Skål! To you too.
Hej, medmänniska. Jag är halv människa och halv övermänsklig.
We have gotten very political the last few weeks.
Matthew Arenson lots of politics are tied to the war
It's also what usually happens in winter. More machinations, less fighting.
Matthew Arenson wars been happening a few years peoples are getting frayed
Even thought we call this "modern war" the lack of fighting in winter does remind me more of the older ways of war. Like During the American Civil war or The American Revolutionary war.
Matthew Arenson we still cant fight in the winter, even WW2 slowed down in the western front.
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Cartoons from that time were goddamn perceptive and hilarious ;-)
Wolf has helmet and mustaches like Wilhelm
yes
silvioevan11 thats true
Omg!! This background music! I love it!
Perer The Great Hi, your majesty.
I almost don't want the war to end...
Emile you wouldn't be saying that 100 years ago...
Don't worry, there's a sequel. Plus, a few filler episodes(wars) that tie in the two. You don't need to watch the fillers, but it helps a bit.
who i cought up!
i found this channel while surfing youtube and got hooked, started from year one and here i am, cant wait for the next episode to be uploaded!
Great job, Indy! You rock!!!👍
I have been binge watching this series like crazy and have finally caught up! Now to watch all the specials and Out of the Trenches!
One of the best episodes of them all!
The Austro-Hungurian Empire was finished by this time I give Emperor Karl props for trying to hold it together. But in the end he could only do so much. Great job.
I love that you said Game of Thrones. That's what I've thought about every episode of the show so far. If people like Game of Thrones so much they should read a history book
Please do something or anything on the Ghurkhas or Kukri on Indi's desk.
I work with these guys. The Regt with the most Victoria Crosses in British Army. 3 in The Great War.
That was just stunning exposition. Brilliantly done. You lot really are getting better and better..... or is it the war just getting worse and worse?
Oof that "Game of Thrones" line at the end gave me chills
Love the videos keep it up, always enjoy listening to you when playing HOI IV
Another day, another great episode!
Why does all of this remind me of all those E.U bailout talks a few years back?
Nice game of thrones reference at the end there Indy and as usual awesome work to you and the team hope you all are doing well :)
That is why every Empire falls, it just builds up to a point where no man can rule alone and everyone wants his head. Sadly, some people still don't understand it
You’re Correct.
It's more to ruling than your comment suggests.
Read The Dictators Handbook. It talks about the rules for rulers.
I think there is a point when time kills the Empire if it's not modernizing permanently. The whole Austro-Hungarian construction was completely outdated by 1900. It was a thing belonging to the middle ages where one autocrat rules over multiple nations but with all the Nation states and Nationalism it had to break as modernization wasn't all the rage with the Emperor (who was born 9 years after Napoleon died and had seen Napoleon III rise and fall, had seen the unification of Germany without Austria, the Crimean war, the colonization of Asia and Africa) and the nobility espacially the Hungarian Magnats. A partition into 4-5 different parts for something like Austria-Hungary-Austrian Yugoslavia-North Slavia-Transylvania would have helped much. Franz Ferdinand even had some plans for United States of Greater Austria where Austria would have consisted out of 15 states united under the Emperor.
A very complex situation explained clearly. One of the best episodes.
Austro-Hungarian House of Cards and Game of Thrones DAMN
your videos get better and better, ive followed you since the beggining, love the channel congrats to the crew
Great as usual, Indy and Team!
However, it would be valuable to remember, that while Germans thought the Russian socialists and the bolsheviks in particular, were just a vessel for the German Cause, the bolsheviks themselves, and Trotsky in particular - as a keen internationalist, thought the Germans served their purpose as a vessel for the Worldwide socialist revolution. And for now bolsheviks are trying hard to get rid of their German sponsors and establish Post-Imerial Russia as a starting pod for Worldwide revolution. Each party at B.-L. was just trying to use the other side as it was intended, not taking into account the wishes of the other side. And that was the root of tensions.
The fact that the allies made the promise to Italy then broke it was wrong. But leave it to politicians who are experts in breaking their word.
Only Indy could make something as confusing as Central Power/boshivek peace negotiations sound thrilling!
If only Italy would have stayed neutral. There were no urgent reasons to join and as it is so many lives were lost for so little gain and the impact of the war contributed greatly to the rise of fascism in Italy, which in turn also greatly boosted and shaped the rise of nazism in Germany.
Personally I believe the Entente would have won anyway sooner or later, largely due to the naval blockade.
Germany broke Russia, not Austria Austrians weren't very effective against the Russians.
Well yes, but 44 more Austrian divisions couldnt hurt right? And imagine the spring offensive on the western front suppurted by the Austrian army? Or those troops helping in Romania or Solonica freeing up more german divisons for the western front.
It would change a lot of things, I am just stating my personal belief, depending on different factors it could go either way. For example without the italian naval support in the mediterranean the Entente could decide that Gallipoli would be too risky, which would actually be better for them.
Over-reliance on austro-hungarian troops in the east could prove to be a mistake and enable a russian breakthrough.
Without Italy there is a fair chance that Romania would not have joined either which means an ally less, but Romania was also seen by some as a liability and as more beneficial as a neutral nation, because Germany would be less likely to try to go through it into Russia.
Without Romanias entry Falkenhayn would probably keep being the chief of staff for a while which would change a lot of things, without some of Hindenburgs and Ludendorffs moves like sending Lenin or building the Hindenberg line to minimize the need of troops in the west it is possible that the eastern front would not have fallen as fast.
The far east would have been a loss to the Central Powers anyway, likely the african front as well soone ror later and ultimately I think it is less likely for the Central Powers to win both the eastern and western front before american support comes in full, (especially considering the internal strife in Austria-Hungary and the Ottoman Empire) assuming that the US still joins, which while up for debate I think is relatively likely.
I think a sooner peace treaty would be more likely with the Entente less confident and Cental Powers still surrounded and with less overall resources.
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This war proved that properly using troops is more important than using more
True. The other sad consequence of Italy being neutral would be, thah the world would never learn of Cadornas "genius".
Hello Indy and crew. Have y'all covered the cost of a solider. Was just wondering because I've heard since ww2 it's 100x more expensive. Also I've learned so much more from this channel then high school!
Blah b
Keep in mind that many armies nowadays are volunteer only, and most certainly aren't on the scale of those in the world wars. Smaller armies generally means more money is spent on each soldier.
Karl is one of my favorite monarchs.
Hello to everyone at 'The Great War'.
You guys talk of the machinations within both the Austro-Hungarian and the German high commands, and how the conflicting demands risk toppling the entire edifice. Given that this is so, isn't it in the interests of the German high command to try and secure better terms that would allow the Austrians to continue fighting? Or are they simply not aware of how fragile their ally's situation is.
They were aware. But they didn't particularly care. The widespread view among the German staff was that they were "shackled to a corpse", as the phrase goes.
This is one of the greatest channels on TH-cam.
I started the series a few months ago and finally caught up!
Thats what I call bingewatching- 185 episodes plus whatever "out of the trenches" and biographies as caught your attention!
No regrets
The amount of money USA made out of ww 1 is crazy...i guess there they learned that war is a lucrative thing when not fighting on its own land...
Well it also came down to the fighting going on in Europe and not America. Their industry and other money making facilities were damaged or destroyed while the US sold things and kept their facilities up and running.
You’re welcome Nicola....man can I buy a vowel on that last name😎
Indy, A question for out of the trenches. Did Bulgaria have any naval presence in the black sea and a usable airforce? Great work on this channel.
Hi Indy and crew, I’ve been a big fan of the show since early 1916 and the show has really cultivated my love for history. However, I have a European history class with friends not as adamant about the war as I am and we are approaching the World War 1 unit. So my question for out of the trenches is this: could you briefly summarize the long lasting social and economic effects of the war on Europe? Thanks, and keep up the great work.
That'll probably come in 2019 or something like that.
You could watch "The War of The World" a documentary series covering WW1 till now. It covers social and economic effects etc.
Miles Jenkins Thanks, I’ll check it out.
Very interresting as always.
Man, I was expecting a cheeky "This. This, is modern war." line, the Game of thrones quote threw me for a loop...
Nothing like starting the day off with a cup of coffee, and a breakfast sandwich to go along with my weekly dose of The Great War.
Bon appetite ;)
Superb history lesson
you know the jokes about playing 3d chess? these machinations feel like 7d
No, 1914D Chess. ;)
Hey Indy and the crew, i live the show it is reslly good and i aleays wanted to know this but did Austro Hungry had their own tanks during WW1 and where did they use them? Keep up the good work love you!!
Oh hey ur over 800k now congratulations!
Charls that one Imperialist Next goal 1000000!
thanks!
I believe "Wully" Robertson was the 1st man in the history of the British army to start as a private and eventually become a Field Marshal
Question for out of the trenches: What DID the Bolsheviks disclose, with all the secret treaties and agreements going on in Europe, and what impact did that have on the post-war situation? Or maybe even on the war situation itself in the last year of the war?
Hey crew, has there been a special episode about conscious objectors during the war yet? Don't quite remember. If not, I'm pretty sure you are going to make one in the future, right? It is an interesting and heavy topic
Putting people into jails because they refuse to be sent to the front as canon folders or simply advocate for peace. In the frenzy of war, "national interests" can triumph individuals like an elephant stamping an ant, even in self branded "civilized nations" of Western Europe, this is truly horrifying
You are a genius at summation.
Hi Indy, the show is great! Is there a special episode of the traison of Alfre
d Redl, the colonel of austrian imperial intelligence servire, who sold the austrian mobilization plans to the Russians shortly before the war?
So the poor old ostrich died for nothing. . .
...didn't someone hungry shot that ostrich because he was bizarre???
Some bloke called Archy Duke shot an ostrich because he was hungry.
Thank you for explaining why these days there's a war on where ages ago, where there wasn't a war on and the moment when there not being a war on went away.
By gum, I love history--Henry the Eighth and his 6 Knives--all that
The tuscania is actually only a matter of miles off the shores of islay in Scotland, think its around, 4-6 miles off if I remember right
Hi thanks for the viedeo its brilliant and intéressant 😉 But dont forget to say that in the battle of the marne 1914 some french from the fith army with the british went into the gap... not only the british. Youre videos are the best
Great video! Keep up the great work! Just wondering, what are your plans for the channel after the war "ends" later this year?
So, if we didn't got Istria, Dalmazia and Fiume, is Woodrow Wilson fault?!
as if Tito wouldn't have took it back anyway hehehe
You speak as if it was yours to take in the first place.
So, if those weren't rightfully Italian lands, neither Jugoslavia should've been formed or Romania gotten Transylvania since its majority is Hungarian.
Gabe M. Transylvania isn’t a majority Hungarian, although there is a very big Hungarian minority.
Hebl von Heblowitz Taking Dalmatia would have just been imperialism, but Istria was actually Italian by majority, so...
Nicely done video
Regency Council did not recognize the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk ,
Very ncie, very, very nicevideo :D
Hopingfor more!:)
Will you be going over US opposition to the war at home such a the sedition act or the extreme anti German views taken up by many people during the war
Flupalupagis They covered anti-Germam sentiment in a special a while back.
We talked about these things in a few out of the trenches episodes.
also you could check out the PBS special on the Great War, they paid "some" attention to this
Love it.
There is such a thing as a no win scenario and this was it.
I have never heard about an indipendent sibirian republic before. Mayby you make a special about that.
Damn that was a powerful conclusion by Indy
last time i was this early kevin spacey was a terrible president
Is it to soon to make a house of card joke?
nah
But, he's still a terrible human being so little has changed. 😃
Muita pena que a maioria dos vídeos não tem legendas em português.
Gah! Politics, war, and ethnic minorities makes a complicated mess....But it's freakin' awesome to learn about!
Hey thanks a lot for the show, this episode was awesome as usual ;) but is there any chance that something is happening in the salonika front. Haven’t heard anything from there in ages ?
I feel bad for those 151+ Americans
Worked and trained to go to war just to die on a boat on the way :/
Imagine their families
I feel more sorry for the guys who were KIA at 10:59am on the 11/11/18 imagine surviving the entire war just to die seconds before the end.
that was such a good out-tro
I have finally catched up with the series , haha !
An interesting story. Once all Italian claims to the eastern shore of the Adriatic have been refused, they resorted to something like this: If a naval attack would come towards us from future Yugoslavia, it would come at dawn as naval attacks usually do, and since the Sun rises from the East, our ships and coastal guns wouldn't be able to see Yugoslav ships. That's why we need the eastern shore.
You have to be a time traveler to Know these things great video
Finally you've said it: This IS a Game of Thrones! It always has been. But the Starks have never understood that. Until now. Because now Winter (the End) is Coming!
Quite the cluster f$ck! Enough to give any sane person a headache
How did Henry Moseley die in the Battle of Gallipoli? Moseley’s death has been considered the most significant single death in the Great War.
I find it almost unbelievable that an experienced leader, like Franz Josef (having experienced first hand, Germany's land greed),
could have been so naive about the strength of Russia, England, France, Italy and he didn't even consider the USA (a new land
and sea empire)! I wonder if he was beginning to go senile?
Oh what a tangled web we weave....
I’m utterly lost.....
I've been thinking lately, also judging from the perspective of post-war European political map: of all the victorious nations, Italy had the smallest gains and they were obtained through large human losses. Which leads me to another idea: they had the weakest motivation to enter the war in the first place. They sacrificed hundreds of thousands of young men for South Tirol, which is not even so overwhelmingly Italian in the first place and has little to no economic value or strategic importance. They entered the slaughter house for some mountains. You can't really count Dalmatia or the Greek Islands or Istria or the Isonzo Valley as valid national objectives, since they were no more than some nostalgic and imperialistic ambitions of somehow restoring a long-lost glory of a long-last Roman Empire. They were not territories inhabited by Italians longing to return to the Fatherland, but just some politicians' fantasies.
This episode made my head explode
A House of Cards and no sexual scandal about the main actor ? Unsubbed.
Duke of Lorraine no who is the pedo in HoC.
Duke of Lorraine *Unwatched
Duke of Lorraine syphilis and incest not enough for you, huh?
Who knows Emperor Franz was beatified a saint. So that makes him immediately suspicious.
I just realized while watching " The Ottoman Lieutenant" that "The War to End All Wars" was actually "The War to End All Empires."
Well, Istria still has a significant Italian population nowadays, I believe it wasn't any smaller a hundred years ago.
Game of thrones? Which means you can die at any moment?!
yes, not so much sex though.
The Great War A secret romance between Hotzendorf and Cadorna would make everything more interesting
I guess it was not so true in brothels for soldiers and officers :D
The Central Powers send their regards.
Bob Smith my name is woodrow wilson. I want you to know that.
Could you please answer this question on Out of the Trenches? Were there any soldiers on any of the fronts who actually enjoyed the War? I'm thinking along the lines of the like of 'Mad Jack' Churchill of WW2 fame.
Thanks for the great show. I'm currently watching all your videos and have just arrived at 1916.
#OutoftheTrenches
Brest-Litovsk Is getting hot
The Iron Thrones are falling
Hey Indy Neidell I got a question that is not necessarily related to the war but considering the war is going to end in 1918 (November out of the top of my head) are you going make a different history show or are you going to stop making videos all together? Sorry that this is not really a World War 1 related question but I still would like to know.
7:14 I'm sure thats Shevchenko's grand grand mother
I bet indie was delighted when he wrote that line at the end this is not a house of cards its a game of thrones
Ahoy Indy, how about a special on Suke Bator: the Mongolian national hero? You guys have already researched Mongolia's history already when you did the special on Roman von Ungern-Sternberg.
Can't really say we researched it in depth, it was what we found about US in the area.
I see thanks for answering, still hope to see something about Mongolia though, WWI played a pivotal role in that country independence.
So did WWII.
Even if at the time it was under heavy USSR influence Mongolia was already an independent state.
It wasn't until near the end of WWII, in the Yalta Conference that Stalin forced the Western nations to officially recognize the sovereignty of Mongolia as a nation. And China by then had no choice but to accept those decisions.
Game of thrones, house of cards and ww1 in one. If a show could be created while all of that was implemented then i would watch it.This one not included, sorry Indy and producers.( But i still watch this channel)
Hi Indy!
Welcome to the Austrian roulette, where every choice you make leads to destruction !
Kinda ironic that this war started because Austria-Hungary (Hötzendorf) wanted to expand its frontiers for the prosperity of the Empire in the first place XD
There was no expansion of the frontiers planned. The war against Serbia was started with the specific decision among the Austro-Hungarians that there would be no annexation of new territory. Serbia and Montenegro would be made puppets, but not integrated.
This was mostly the position of Hungary and some Higher-ups in Austria. But i specified Conrad von Hotzendorf, who HE was mainly responsible for pushing to war in the Balkans and wanted to expand, expand and expand.
I invite you to watch again the Special about him : th-cam.com/video/NE8-_GAc7g4/w-d-xo.html
Everyone had their own motives and Europe was a powder keg ready to explode indeed. But in our time line, WW1 started between Austria-Hungary and Serbia because Hotzendorf wanted a war of expansion and took the opportunity offered by the execution of Franz Ferdinand to advance his personnal ambition.
Well now, that wasn't complicated at all.
Why did Italy think they would have their alliance honored by the French and British