This is what I like about this channel. You see the failures along with the successes ! Hubnut - Keeping it real !!! Good luck driving to Croatia, it's a long trek......
TWC: I hear you're off to Croatia? Ellie: Not bloody likely! TWC: Wana see how to get out of it? Ellie: WTF?? TWC: I spat a plug out and he had to push me up hill hahahaha
One of my many aircooled vws spat a plug out once, (had the benefit of double the cylinders you have so limping home was possible) But I helicoiled the plug thread in the head and it was fine. Old alloy heads like to do that.... some race vw engines run helicoils as a matter of prevention rather than repair
Just a non-video-related 'thank you', Ian for your Foxanne tips on painting cars. We had Bodgit & Scarper repair our gates last week - and as I'd guessed, they'd not painted the top edge of the gate - so it was was still bare (rotten) wood. I've a tin ('plastic!') of black 'stone' / masonry paint - so gave the top edge a coat of paint - but I knew it'd still collect water - so I used my 'designed but not tried' method today of super-bodging a paint job on the gate top to cover all the holes etc. that'd collect water and help the rotting process. It goes like this: Apply fresh coat of paint, add strips of newspaper (to cover the holes) paint the newspaper. Add another layer of newspaper and one more coat of paint - so it's a cross-between painting and papier maché. Looks a lot better and is hopefully far more sound ! I then was wrapping up tools and paint etc. and noticed the back panel on the Kangoo with half the black paint peeled off - and there's me with a paint brush containing black paint - so yes - painted the back of the car with it - looks a lot better! So as I say, thanks for the tip Ian !
I don't get the idea of the Knife-Edge instead of just a round pivot pin. I see below that someone has suggested less friction. However, one thing I remember long ago from my aircraft engineering apprenticeship is that friction is independent of surface area. We had to prove this by measuring the force required to drag metal blocks in various configurations across metal plates. It matters not if the block is on its side (big area) or on its end (small area), the force is always the same.
To be precise the COEFFICIENT of friction is independent of area you need more effort to overcome the friction of a larger area of contact but when you run the equation the coefficient is the same
I can so relate to all of this, Ian. When SH**T happens it really happens It is 30 degrees in Kent and I'm trying to sort out a battery overnight drain in my car plus fitting new CV joints such fun.
I feel your pain, Ian. I’ve had many a wrenching day that went like than. Good on you for having the gumption to clean your tools and put them away. I usually just chuck them I on the workbench and turn out the light after such a day. It will get better. Keep the faith.
Oh dear indeed! Poor old TWC. Glad she didn't spit a plug out in the middle of London! Hope Elly is better soon and the 'big trip' goes without drama. All the best.
I'm starting a petition; Bring back Ian(s) Hair! This guy is an impostor, Oh wait...did you say you had 2 breakdowns in as many days? Phew, panic over, It really is Ian, the living legend of 'HubNut' Fame after all! Was a bit worried back there!
Fantastic! You are going to enjoy the trip to Croatia - we had 40°C here in Germany earlier this week! Forget the Samson effect, you donated your hair to a good cause and bring pleasure to thousands which will negate any effects!!!
Same thing happened to my beetle. The number three cylinder popped a plug, which gets hotter than the other cylinders. A helicoil worked for a few years, eventually I had to replace the head.
I had the same when my hair came off, just put it behind you and move on. 👍🏻 Sometimes stuff happens. Cheer up dude the rest of us live vicariously through your adventures.
Rather bemused by the 2CV suspension linkage. A completely circular pin would work just as well and last a lot longer. I presume its flat sides are to stop the pin rotating - to ensure the movement is on the correct part of the pin. On the whole, I think it makes the torsion bar look like a great idea !
If the thread is stripped in the head, I have an unused 'savathread' spark plug thread cutter and inserts you are welcome to. It's like a helicoil but a full threaded insert. It will only fit M14 x 1.25 threads however.
Excellent video shame about the break downs but it happens to the best of us. Least you sorted Elle out which is the main thing. You can fix Twc after your trip.
You have about as much luck as me with cars ian but we love them are change them but all good fun danny I filled the bottle up again on the 75 this morning keeping an eye on the engine great video my friend
Some days everything goes so badly we feel we shouldn't have gotten out of bed. Seems a box of spare parts and a dedicated tool kit should be tucked away on some cars. In the early 80s my Moskvitch used to eject one of its spark plugs regularly - it would shoot out, hit the inside bonnet and richochet out of the engine bay into the road. I kept a clean spare in the extensive manufacturer supplied tool kit (along with its Communist Haynes-style manual that had instructions on 'how to lay up the car in the event of hostilities') Happy memories of searching for the ejected plug in the road that could then be cleaned up to replace the spare. Mind you, my 2 stroke Suzuki 100cc motorbike back in the 70s even used to melt plugs sometimes, so I'd gotten used to carrying spares years before.
Oh dear that's not good sorry about the breakdowns old cars can be fun in more ways than one sometime's all part of the journey , here's to a safe trip to Croatia and back with much reliability :)
Looking forward to your coverage of the Croatia trip, certainly loved the Mighty dacia collection caper. You didn't go to any touristy places in that which I want to do. If you want to experience a country, stray away from the monuments & the noisy tourists, experience what the locals do on a daily basis, that's what I intend to do if I ever go travelling
Thanks. I do plan to do a bit of touristy stuff on this trip - I've never been to Amsterdam for instance, and need to visit. But, I certainly enjoy getting away from the tourists too! There will be no sunloungers...
Most things that happen in life are a lesson for the future dear chap. In other words, maybe this was a gentle reminder for you to take LOTS of spare parts and an ample supply of lubricants for your forthcoming trip across Europe. Things can become even more frustrating when you are stuck in the middle of nowhere; and you know the tool or part required, is sitting happily back home, redundant in your garage.
RE: 2CV valve clearance. The feeler gauge is wider than the valve stem that wears into the rocker arm and therefore bridges across the wear. Buy a cheap dial test indicator and use that to verify the clearance
Some days are just crap! It’s better to just sack it all off and walk away for a bit. I would have tried the other plug in the head to make sure the treads were ok while I was there because based on that info, a plan can be formulated back home. Hopefully Elly is just vibrating because she can and not because she’s broken. I guess time will tell. Great video as always, despite the issues. Don’t be too despondent👍
I would be careful with gear oil changes ian. i put a new brand in (well known) gearbox oil that i never used before and it started leaking from the input shaft seal as soon as i went for a drive. The same viscosity as the other gearbox oils i used as well. Stick to what works for you and don't chop & change. Good video ian as always.(:-) REPLY
@@HubNut I did not mean it to be read that way. What i meant is don't chop & change with different brands as some seals may leak like it happened with my car recently. Its something to do with new additives i guess that they put in and that makes old seals leak,but may be fine with newish cars. I change my gear oil every 2 years and stick to the same brand that gave me no troubles.
Hi again Ian, I admire your courage for taking on the journey to Croatia in this lovely classic but did I see some chassis de-lamination at 7.26 ? Safe trip and slanche from that old Yorkshie "Geezer" in Ireland.
More Gentle Fettling On Elly Should Help Her To Get Through The Croatia Trip Ian! Looks Like TWC Became An Invalid Herself! (At Least For A Short While!) The Irrepressible World Of Hubnut! Don't We Just Love It! Safe Travelling Through Croatia Ian! All The Best Mate!
We all have one of those days in life where everything goes wrong . I did laugh when you started running with TOC as it was a take on Basil Fawlty hitting a red Austin with a branch of a tree event .
Currently in Croatia with our Volvo from the UK, all I can say is it is flipping hot and we don’t have aircon. I can’t imagine the 2CV would be safe on the autobahn, I was getting abuse for only doing 90mph.
Ummm... so why do the knife edges have a triangular cross-section instead of circular? By putting all the loads from the shackle on the vertexes of the knife edge, the vertexes should wear first- which seems to be what you saw. Or is the triangular cross-section to allow volume for grease?
So, what causes spark plugs to blow out anyway? I know you haven't gotten home yet to find out, but what generally is the catalyst that starts this off? You'd think that when torqued properly, even by feel, that it's one of those things that just can't happen, even with cylinder pressures and whatnot.
I've made up some hard steel tubular bushes to fit inside the shackles and stop them wearing on the inside.. the knife edges are placed inside the bushes. I would think that rubber or polyurethane bushes could be made for the same purpose. Thoughts?
One of those days... sounds oddly familiar. I believe you should actually loosen the manifold bolts before torquing the heads to do it properly. And you should always check valve clearences after torquing them, which you did... a few times. Maybe grease up the kingpins as well before such a long journey...?
Probably worn threads on the alloy head...wrap the plug thread in silver foil as a temporary measure....every man bag should carry a patch of silver foil...I owned a beetle...same problem 🤗
The Saab, TWC and valve clearance error with Elly, they say bad luck comes in threes, so you should be safe from now on Ian. If you're going to have cars breaking down, it's better that it happens here than when you're in Europe with Elly. I've only ever had a plug blow out once, it really is quite an alarming experience.
This is what I like about this channel. You see the failures along with the successes ! Hubnut - Keeping it real !!! Good luck driving to Croatia, it's a long trek......
I'm relieved that twc's issue happened locally and not on one of her more epic journeys.
Got to love old cars sometimes the more care you put into them the more they just throw it back in your face.Stay strong Ian stay strong.
TWC: I hear you're off to Croatia?
Ellie: Not bloody likely!
TWC: Wana see how to get out of it?
Ellie: WTF??
TWC: I spat a plug out and he had to push me up hill hahahaha
One of my many aircooled vws spat a plug out once, (had the benefit of double the cylinders you have so limping home was possible)
But I helicoiled the plug thread in the head and it was fine. Old alloy heads like to do that.... some race vw engines run helicoils as a matter of prevention rather than repair
Rear visibility has much improved from our point of view
Excellent video as always. I wish you a safe trip to Croatia.
Having seen this video, I suggest you fly.
Just did my first periodic maintenance and had no idea what “grease the knife edges” meant so, THANK YOU.
A car famously bad in really hot weather heading into a heatwave.
Can't wait for the video. I'm loving your travel blogs ian
I plan to buy a new super coil in the way. Elly doesn't mind the heat, just crap ignition components that don't like it.
Nice to learn about 2CV suspension very interesting 👍 Poor TWC, glad you made it back we felt your stress. You did very well minding your Ps and Qs
Have you been in hiding McPugg? Mum got you at a secret undisclosed location? Haven't seen you posting in awhile.😟
@@klwthe3rd Mums the word.
Indeed - slightly less chance of leaking than hydragas.
Just a non-video-related 'thank you', Ian for your Foxanne tips on painting cars. We had Bodgit & Scarper repair our gates last week - and as I'd guessed, they'd not painted the top edge of the gate - so it was was still bare (rotten) wood. I've a tin ('plastic!') of black 'stone' / masonry paint - so gave the top edge a coat of paint - but I knew it'd still collect water - so I used my 'designed but not tried' method today of super-bodging a paint job on the gate top to cover all the holes etc. that'd collect water and help the rotting process. It goes like this: Apply fresh coat of paint, add strips of newspaper (to cover the holes) paint the newspaper. Add another layer of newspaper and one more coat of paint - so it's a cross-between painting and papier maché. Looks a lot better and is hopefully far more sound !
I then was wrapping up tools and paint etc. and noticed the back panel on the Kangoo with half the black paint peeled off - and there's me with a paint brush containing black paint - so yes - painted the back of the car with it - looks a lot better! So as I say, thanks for the tip Ian !
I don't get the idea of the Knife-Edge instead of just a round pivot pin. I see below that someone has suggested less friction. However, one thing I remember long ago from my aircraft engineering apprenticeship is that friction is independent of surface area. We had to prove this by measuring the force required to drag metal blocks in various configurations across metal plates. It matters not if the block is on its side (big area) or on its end (small area), the force is always the same.
To be precise the COEFFICIENT of friction is independent of area you need more effort to overcome the friction of a larger area of contact but when you run the equation the coefficient is the same
I don't understand the reasoning either.
Just come back from Croatia, it was VERY hot!!!!!!, but lovely country, good luck.
Just noticed that you are up to 37k subscribers.
Glad to see your hard work and volume of videos are paying off
I can so relate to all of this, Ian. When SH**T happens it really happens It is 30 degrees in Kent and I'm trying to sort out a battery overnight drain in my car plus fitting new CV joints such fun.
So good to watch a real classic car vid where things go wrong as they invariably do? Keep it real
Awesome, looking forward to seeing Elly on her travels the coming weeks
Hopefully this is a good omen for the Croatia trip, you're getting all of the bad luck out of the way before you go 🤞
What an excellent explanation of 2CV suspension, thanks.
I feel your pain, Ian. I’ve had many a wrenching day that went like than. Good on you for having the gumption to clean your tools and put them away. I usually just chuck them I on the workbench and turn out the light after such a day. It will get better. Keep the faith.
Oh dear indeed! Poor old TWC. Glad she didn't spit a plug out in the middle of London! Hope Elly is better soon and the 'big trip' goes without drama. All the best.
I'm starting a petition; Bring back Ian(s) Hair! This guy is an impostor, Oh wait...did you say you had 2 breakdowns in as many days? Phew, panic over, It really is Ian, the living legend of 'HubNut' Fame after all! Was a bit worried back there!
Fantastic! You are going to enjoy the trip to Croatia - we had 40°C here in Germany earlier this week! Forget the Samson effect, you donated your hair to a good cause and bring pleasure to thousands which will negate any effects!!!
You can't appreciate the good times without experience less good times
Absolutely perfect example of HubNut style motoring.
My friends Isetta used to do the same thing, only one cylinder though. He used locktite to hold the plug in in the end, it worked.
Same thing happened to my beetle. The number three cylinder popped a plug, which gets hotter than the other cylinders. A helicoil worked for a few years, eventually I had to replace the head.
I'm sure that angels will protect your travels & keep you safe Ian!
Lol definition of a benefit cheat, a man running along side his disability carriage.
Hahahaa
I must say it's confusing when someone with a walking frame is overtaking a teenager.
Could be a miracle ! 😃
I would have pissed my self had the 2nd cylnder kicked into life and took off down the road
@@peteramberley9952 you had me at the first comment but the 2nd brought on a leak of all bodily points, lol.....
I feel your pain with TWC must have been a horrible feeling. Thanks for sharing your videos are always entertaining. 👍👍👍
I had the same when my hair came off, just put it behind you and move on. 👍🏻 Sometimes stuff happens. Cheer up dude the rest of us live vicariously through your adventures.
It'll all work out mate.Best wishes for the Croatia expedtion😎👍!
Look forward to watching this later 👍👍
Hopefully, it was just a plug that came loose after Tuc's long trip previously.
very patient man iain ... i dont know how you keep your cool ... well done .. great vid tnx
Rather bemused by the 2CV suspension linkage. A completely circular pin would work just as well and last a lot longer. I presume its flat sides are to stop the pin rotating - to ensure the movement is on the correct part of the pin. On the whole, I think it makes the torsion bar look like a great idea !
If the thread is stripped in the head, I have an unused 'savathread' spark plug thread cutter and inserts you are welcome to. It's like a helicoil but a full threaded insert. It will only fit M14 x 1.25 threads however.
How was this June 2019!!! I'm sure since Covid, times been on fast forward!
Excellent video shame about the break downs but it happens to the best of us. Least you sorted Elle out which is the main thing. You can fix Twc after your trip.
How French is that, let's put a triangular peg into a round hole, clever old Andre!
You have about as much luck as me with cars ian but we love them are change them but all good fun danny I filled the bottle up again on the 75 this morning keeping an eye on the engine great video my friend
Great video as always, enjoy Croatia
Sounds you miss from when you were young, lovingly returned by Mr Hubnut,
Sorry you're not having much luck at the moment Ian....Hope the issues can be resolved easily! 🤞🤞
At least we now know the origin of the expression 'bad hair day'! But making it two in a row is definitely overdoing it!
that was very interesting. Always good to learn
Some days everything goes so badly we feel we shouldn't have gotten out of bed. Seems a box of spare parts and a dedicated tool kit should be tucked away on some cars. In the early 80s my Moskvitch used to eject one of its spark plugs regularly - it would shoot out, hit the inside bonnet and richochet out of the engine bay into the road. I kept a clean spare in the extensive manufacturer supplied tool kit (along with its Communist Haynes-style manual that had instructions on 'how to lay up the car in the event of hostilities') Happy memories of searching for the ejected plug in the road that could then be cleaned up to replace the spare. Mind you, my 2 stroke Suzuki 100cc motorbike back in the 70s even used to melt plugs sometimes, so I'd gotten used to carrying spares years before.
is the resonance the air filter coming loose? I've had that back in the day on the standard engine.
The joys of classic car ownership, hope TWC is ok
Oh dear that's not good sorry about the breakdowns old cars can be fun in more ways than one sometime's all part of the journey , here's to a safe trip to Croatia and back with much reliability :)
Looking forward to your coverage of the Croatia trip, certainly loved the Mighty dacia collection caper. You didn't go to any touristy places in that which I want to do. If you want to experience a country, stray away from the monuments & the noisy tourists, experience what the locals do on a daily basis, that's what I intend to do if I ever go travelling
Thanks. I do plan to do a bit of touristy stuff on this trip - I've never been to Amsterdam for instance, and need to visit. But, I certainly enjoy getting away from the tourists too! There will be no sunloungers...
@@HubNut Excellent. I'd love to go to Amsterdam myself some day, should be an awesome experience!
@@HubNut make sure you go off the beaten path too! 🤗
@@HubNut Don't step back in amazement after seeing who is sitting in the shop window and fall in the canal.
Because that's what I nearly did....
Oh dear Ian,it's all gone wrong,at least Elly is sort of running right that one thing,I hope you sort her out for the trip.😀
Of course Elie is just a nickname. Her real name is.... Delilha 🤣
WHY WHY WHY!
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Most things that happen in life are a lesson for the future dear chap. In other words, maybe this was a gentle reminder for you to take LOTS of spare parts and an ample supply of lubricants for your forthcoming trip across Europe. Things can become even more frustrating when you are stuck in the middle of nowhere; and you know the tool or part required, is sitting happily back home, redundant in your garage.
Can't take everything though! The one bit you need will always be the one bit you left behind...
Ahh, the joys of old cars! Keep your chin up Ian, you'll get it all worked out.
RE: 2CV valve clearance. The feeler gauge is wider than the valve stem that wears into the rocker arm and therefore bridges across the wear. Buy a cheap dial test indicator and use that to verify the clearance
Fab Viewing. Love a good invacar solo push run hahaha. The anxiety filled life of a classic car owner for sure.
These videos are just BRILL.....every one........makes BBC Top Gear look like absolute crap......we knew that all ready.......Really love your videos.
Some days are just crap!
It’s better to just sack it all off and walk away for a bit.
I would have tried the other plug in the head to make sure the treads were ok while I was there because based on that info, a plan can be formulated back home.
Hopefully Elly is just vibrating because she can and not because she’s broken. I guess time will tell.
Great video as always, despite the issues. Don’t be too despondent👍
I had absolutely no tools with me, so the other plug was not coming out. I think I've found Elly's odd noise. Nothing serious!
I would be careful with gear oil changes ian.
i put a new brand in (well known) gearbox oil that i never used before and it started leaking from the input shaft seal as soon as i went for a drive.
The same viscosity as the other gearbox oils i used as well.
Stick to what works for you and don't chop & change.
Good video ian as always.(:-)
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No, 2CVs definitely benefit from frequent gearbox oil changes. Bad things happen otherwise.
@@HubNut I did not mean it to be read that way.
What i meant is don't chop & change with different brands as some seals may leak like it happened with my car recently.
Its something to do with new additives i guess that they put in and that makes old seals leak,but may be fine with newish cars.
I change my gear oil every 2 years and stick to the same brand that gave me no troubles.
They used to make the Invacar close to where I live, an old friend of mine used to work there.
Thundersley? I took mine back there in May. Have a look for the Roadtrip videos.
@@HubNut Yes that's the place, do you have a link to the video ? They used to make Greeves motorbikes there too.
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I'm in central Europe and a few days ago the temperature was 37 degrees!!
Hi again Ian, I admire your courage for taking on the journey to Croatia in this lovely classic but did I see some chassis de-lamination at 7.26 ? Safe trip and slanche from that old Yorkshie "Geezer" in Ireland.
Unlikely. Maybe the bottom plate?
If you get the chance have a walk round Dubrovnik old town.
More Gentle Fettling On Elly Should Help Her To Get Through The Croatia Trip Ian! Looks Like TWC Became An Invalid Herself! (At Least For A Short While!) The Irrepressible World Of Hubnut! Don't We Just Love It! Safe Travelling Through Croatia Ian! All The Best Mate!
Croatia welcomes hair-less drivers. Good luck Ian.
We all have one of those days in life where everything goes wrong . I did laugh when you started running with TOC as it was a take on Basil Fawlty hitting a red Austin with a branch of a tree event .
The Puch Puked!Now I understand why so many people in the UK are Hiking along the roadways,they have British cars.I love the Invacar anyway!
Haynes manual reference, the electrode is now mullered 😂😂 classic hubnut
The hair makes you look ten years younger and it has gone to a good cause.
Whoops! Posted that before seeing the invacar probs. Glad you cut the swearing that must have been going on.
the resonance sounds just like when my air filter element works loose, especially when you open up the second choke.
Croatia in a 2CV (or any car for that matter) sounds brilliant fun.
Feel for you, lots of problems, hang in there , well done
I had one of those days yesterday. Your haircut must have a surprisingly large sphere of influence.
Currently in Croatia with our Volvo from the UK, all I can say is it is flipping hot and we don’t have aircon. I can’t imagine the 2CV would be safe on the autobahn, I was getting abuse for only doing 90mph.
I reckon, the cars don't recognise you.😗
It always keeps you alert.
Ummm... so why do the knife edges have a triangular cross-section instead of circular? By putting all the loads from the shackle on the vertexes of the knife edge, the vertexes should wear first- which seems to be what you saw. Or is the triangular cross-section to allow volume for grease?
Love that 2CV. Love that haircut too! 😍
Hey ... who are you and what are you doing with Ian's car :)
So, what causes spark plugs to blow out anyway? I know you haven't gotten home yet to find out, but what generally is the catalyst that starts this off? You'd think that when torqued properly, even by feel, that it's one of those things that just can't happen, even with cylinder pressures and whatnot.
I've made up some hard steel tubular bushes to fit inside the shackles and stop them wearing on the inside.. the knife edges are placed inside the bushes.
I would think that rubber or polyurethane bushes could be made for the same purpose.
Thoughts?
I have faith in the Citroen engineers. Original seems to work.
14:12 Cool Runnings Welsh team practice session 😆
The plug thread is relatively easy to helicoil, most decent workshop garages should easily do it and it will never spit its dummy out again :)
Something about those old air cooled engines , a sound that is rare nowadays 😎 hope TWC not serious
nice vid again ian as always 👍👍 (plus here in the uk its nice and hot)🌞 i'm sure you'll fix TWK
One of those days... sounds oddly familiar.
I believe you should actually loosen the manifold bolts before torquing the heads to do it properly. And you should always check valve clearences after torquing them, which you did... a few times.
Maybe grease up the kingpins as well before such a long journey...?
Kingpins were done just the other day. For retorquing, undoing the manifolds is not necessary.
2CV Shackle looks like the old metal framed bed spanner lol 😃😂😁
Good luck for Croatia. Will be following progress! Thread chaser for twc head?
I can see why you keep the Invacar - getting in the 2 CV afterwards must seem like such a treat. A bit like having cold showers at Public Schools.
Probably worn threads on the alloy head...wrap the plug thread in silver foil as a temporary measure....every man bag should carry a patch of silver foil...I owned a beetle...same problem 🤗
The Saab, TWC and valve clearance error with Elly, they say bad luck comes in threes, so you should be safe from now on Ian. If you're going to have cars breaking down, it's better that it happens here than when you're in Europe with Elly. I've only ever had a plug blow out once, it really is quite an alarming experience.
I see a helicoil in your future! And 45 degrees in France? Just like home! (Greetings from Australia!)
That SAAB, was it a hose going in the top of the intake manifold? That bugger wouldn't stay in on the SAAB 900 I had.
Yes, though it blew a small pipe off which made the problem worse. It'll all be in the test video.
You can regain your composure by playing Chris Rea's famous song. "Road to Helicoil"
Oh dear! It'll all come right. Don't fret
Is it possible to fit rear knife edges to the front suspension?
Hi Ian, a "bad dress rehearsal" is needed for a faultless execution of your trip to Croatia.
Hi could be time for a proper engine overhaul on the invacar! That would make an interesting video.
Yeah, wasn't planning to do that until after the National Microcar Rally in September... May have to opt for swapping a head for now.