A New 51st State - Long Island Secession In a Nutshell
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มิ.ย. 2023
- Everyone knows the United States is made up of fifty states with their unchanging borders. There are hardly any examples of a state seceding from another successfully. But that doesn't stop places from trying! In this episode, we talk about the history of the Long Island statehood movement!
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Episode 9: A New 51st State - Long Island Secession In a Nutshell
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Thank you for making a video for New Yorkers to show to Long Islanders while laughing
i hope you had a bit of a laugh too
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
haha the sawicki mapping bit is so accurate
As a Long Islander, my proposal is to actually cut Westchester in half, on a line continuing from the northern corner of CT's panhandle to the Hudson River. We, NYC, and southern Westchester then boot the rest of upstate out. Dpwnstate stays New York, Upstate becomes the 51st state of Erie. The one thread I keep finding on my travels is that almost everyone south of that line hates paying for Upstate's roads etc, and everyone north of that line hates having NYC and its suburbs impose social policies like gun control on them.
This will likely never happen though, especially since the major cities upstate would be upset from that. In reality all parts of the state benefit from the arrangement. For instance, NYC gets its water from upstate.
It's fun to think about, but likely not practical.
Well, if you saw the conditions of the streets in upstate - you would wonder where all the money goes. It sure isn't to MENTAL HEALTH issues.
I agree, plus upstate already feels like a different state
@@spelticup True, Syracuse and Binghamton would be pretty pissed to be outside the Empire State, and have to deal with the massive red shift that an independent Upstate would take politically. NYC's water is a problem though, we've been destroying aquifers and resevoirs from the Hamptons to the Catskills, desalination might have to happen with or without independence.
As a long islander I enjoyed this video!
Thank you!
Never knew about this, and I love learning about potential new states. Keep it up!
thank you!
Alrighty, here’s my opinion on which states should exist in the future:
-puerto Rico
-Guam
-long island
-northern Mariana islands
-U.S Virgin Islands
-American Samoa
-north California
-Washington DC
And here’s a few more outlandish ones that I’d like to see:
-Quebec
-Taiwan
With all of these, it would bring the US’s state number up to 60 without any need of invasion! (The two outlandish ones actually have support for American annexation, but in reality it would be unlikely to happen)
I doubt any of those outlandish ones will happen (and Long Island should also be considered outlandish). Ultimately the "nothing ever happens" camp usually wins, but I think Puerto Rico would be a great addition
I would add Delmarva to that list
Based.
i loved this channel so much
what happened!?
Upstaters: “Please, don’t leave me alone with *gulp* THEM!” *points to the rest of NYC*
I can definitely confirm that New York is incredibly regionalist, and acts like a smaller version of the US at times. People say they wanna secede but everyone calls their bluff. Just becomes a toxic culture lol
i agree
Yeah, upstate New York really should join Vermont or something.
@@N0sf3r4tuR1s3nDamn right we should.
@@N0sf3r4tuR1s3n As an upstate New Yorker, ain't no way we gonna join the 2nd least populated state
The chances of the succession is unlikely but it should really happen,I would support it more than making Puerto Rico a state for sure since pr should be it's own country and not a territory of the us.
native long islander here, enjoyed the vid
good video. i hope your channel grows quickly. subbed!
thanks!
As someone who lives in New York, GET THEM OUT!
But in all seriousness, great video, never heard about this movement before!
Thank you!
long island, northern new york, and each borough of new york city all act like were completely different states already while inside new york
I said it and I will say it again, but as a foreigner these kind of US politics are incomprehensible but at the same time a thing that I can see happen here in ol' Europe
I'll be honest, some of this stuff is also incomprehensible to me, but it's also pretty funny.
I think English separatism is a thing, there's small nearly insignificant movements in places like northern Sweden, London, (yes London), Newfoundland, Azores and Madeira (Portuguese Islands) Vorarlberg Austria
I support greater Idaho because I would like to have ports that aren’t tied to Oregon, California, or Washington
the current proposal of the greater idaho plan would no longer have that new state border the pacific
It would make more sense if Upstate New York became a state
it also, similarly, likely not happen
Your videos are funny and really well made I could def see your channel blowing up in the not too distant future!
Thank you!
Keep at it; this is good stuff.
thank you!
As an Upsate New Yorker, this is the most goofiest video ever
goofy is a good word to describe it
im suprised you dont have over 3 mil. def sticking around.
Thanks!
yes our politicians are weirdos but at least we have... italians?
unfortunately the politicians are also italians
Bro there was a movement in Italy during WW2 that wanted to be annexed by the US lmao
@@spelticup italy is europes long island
I mean I've always wanted Ulster to call for Secession from the UK and Southern Ireland to become our own Independent State of Ulster, and it's actually not the first time someone wanted it as in County Donegal, there was an Independent Ulster Movement which is still going on to this day
this is probably more likely than a full long island independence because it's more of a distinctive identity
I'm from Connecticut, the south east part of the state and can see Long Island from my house. If they make Long Island a state, it would only to be concentrate taxes within the Island and of course line the pockets of any politician that runs it . Because of it's location means they will keep the taxes the same or even raise it. There's no benefit to the residents on the island if they were to become a 51st state. Connecticut is the highest taxed state in the union partly because of it's proximity to New York City and Boston. I would expect the same results of a succession from New York. You can also bet on Brooklyn being the capital as it's the most populated part of the island. If you travel to the eastern side of the island, it's basically wine country with a small population. This move would really only benefit a handful of politicians running the show and it's a ridiculous reason for it to happen in the first place.
It's the core issue of oUr DeMoCrAcY when the cities can vote to steal everyone else's money. It's like in CT where all the state taxes go to be laundered in bridgeport, hartford and new haven; or into the rificulous pension systems that the people never got to vote for but are on the hook for forever.
Wow a video about where I live
Fellow Islander
crazy weather we're having today
Thunder on a blue sky day? Truly fascinating...
Wait, why is there thunder every time you say Ed Mangano's [THUNDER] name?
As stated in the video, he's now mostly known for his extreme corruption. He's so infamous, even a sunny day can't stop a rattling of thunder...
As a person from Queens Borough, I am horrified by the idea of succession from New York.
this better blow up frfr
Thank you!!
@@spelticup yww 🙌🙌
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And quad cities from iowa and Illinois
Long Island is one of the most segregated places in the country
as a Long Islander, I want us to succeed from New York. It’s mostly about the tax dollars and other stuff like cultural differences, like their protestant upstate, but down here we are Catholic, we are more big then most of the people that live upstate, we do not give off New York vibes, and despite if the governor is Republican or not I still want succession
Ah yes, our proud State of Long Island:
State Motto: "Outta the left lane douchebag!"
State Capital: Levittown
State Bird: The Seagull
State Anthem: "Scenes From an Italian Restaurant"
State Flower: The Cattail
The Ducks will join the MLB; we'll erect statues along the LIE of our great icons like: Teddy Roosevelt, Billy Joel, Alec Baldwin, Rosie O'Donnell, Bill O'Reilly, and who could forget that guy from King of Queens!
We'll turn MacArthur into something to rival LaGuardia-- New York spent $8 billion over 9 years? HA! We can do better! I say $13 billion over 15 years!
Our license plate will have the Big Duck and a big 🖕to show the rest of the country we don't duck around! The Governor will deploy the state guard to Central Islip and Brentwood-- a man with a plan! We can invite the Gambino's to run the Comptroller, and the Lucchese's can keep collecting our trash! The children will learn of our rich and deep state history, how our ancestors fled from the rotting sewers of New York City in the distant 1970's. How glorious it could be, our precious Long Island State, free from the tyranny of Manhattan & Albany. But what do I most look forward to? WE CAN FINALLY PAVE THE GOD DAMNED ROADS!!!
Sadly the way US politics works no new state will come about especially the way congress works. Personally abolish the senate and just disolves states
Maybe it's for the best that it stays that way, for now...
7:01 those borders look really cool though.
And consolidating states into far larger and more strongly established versions of themselves would make it that much more difficult for outsiders to flood in and vote in the problems they were fleeing.
Sorry, I am the 51stState
My apologies, number 51...
I live there
Cool!
Liked wow Cool
he got caught :(
poor Mangano...
Yeeeeeees finally this movement is getting somewhere, being noticed. My only complaint is that the stars on the flag are white not Dutch orange like the forked band. Thank you.
i personally don't like the cesido tallini flag (the colors are blinding)
the version i used are based on a flag design i made a long while ago
@@spelticup At least you kept the original flag design mostly intact with just that star change. I wouldn't blame you for finding the colors actually being a little harsh on the eyes. The stars being intricate it's what makes it so. People however on the internet are always trying to "beat" the original with vastly different designs. They're always overly designed and or just garbage.
Long island will become a state someday maybe soon or later. Upstate will too definitely. Because when you get to peek into what's going on in the state you truly see why it goes by the title of the empire state. It's basically NYC bullying the rest of the state. Just not on taxes but laws or policy. The State claims to love nature yet they buyout farms and forests and replace it with apartments and solar farms. Putting windmills on our ocean front. Trying to integrate Long island's power grid with NYC. Overdeveloped polluting the water supply and having Upstate provide with their own water. As of recently New York State/NYC is currently suing most of the state like 20+ counties including Suffolk because they're not wanting to provide their homeless shelters and thus relating resources meant for citizens and most importantly their residents. Because of NY's/NYC's own immigration policy having created a crisis with them using millions in tax money already.
New york is basically New York City 😂
Not exactly, New York is a very huge state for east coast standards
@@spelticup i ment law standards most of new York’s laws are based around the city, and the rest of the state is way more poor then New York City, heck most people this New York City is the capital of New York becuase Albany is so poor, size wise New York is known for that
This has weight only today because in reality New York State really wants to secede from Long Island.
So true!
As a Long Islander, I don't think a LI state would be a good thing, I kinda like being associated with New York
i think it's pretty useful too. many kids from long island end up going to schools upstate or in the city
Same
bro forgot the Swedish were there first BRUH
They did not have a significant/long-standing presence. The Swedes were mostly near the Delaware river.
@@spelticupit lasted only 17 years till the dutch took it back
@spelticup why has no one considered greater autonomy instead of succession? That way its not too much of a headache, and it is better for both sides.
At just over a minute in (1:22), I'm just gonna go ahead and assume any secessionist movement on LI just like any secessionist movement anywhere else in NY: ignorant racists who believe they can pay lower taxes if they didn't have to pay for "those people" in NYC, never realizing for one moment that NYC pays for them.
For a lot of people, not far off...
@@spelticup Well I can tell you the idea does have real (stupid) support: an old friend of mine moved to the Buffalo area, got Facebook radicalized and joined a group advocating for everything north of Albany to secede, doing everything they could not to trip over the racism line but going riiiiight up to it. And my grandparents, may they rest in Hell, lived in Smithtown and among their many incoherent couch rants were ones about paying taxes for :: insert Italian racial slur for black people I wish I didn't know :: so they could "destroy the city we pay for" - and this was in the early 80s.
You are not 11 bffr...
I'm a Long Islander and I find this whole thing hilarious. I've lived here my entire life and never once have I heard anyone talk about sucession from New York State, mainly because there isn't really any good reason to. The pain of setting everything up to become our own state would probably cost way more than the money we'd save, also while yes we pay a lot of taxes, most of it (60% actually) goes to the public school system.
I agree. Personally I heard the idea all the time growing up. It was much more prevalent during the late 2000s and 2010s, but I still hear it from time to time.
How the heck do people live that densely 🤢
NYC no clue but for someone who lives in Suffolk county. Our county alone is bigger than Rhode island.
Wrong! 51st is isreal & 52nd is ukraine
interesting...
Lame take
Man I hate Long Island