I used to think you needed a training program, when I first saw you. But I've grown to realize that even without a program, your training is still generally structured, logical and flexible.
Regarding your point here 2:07, the Ukrainian powerlifter Vladimir Shmondenko isn't particularly big either I think it's a matter of genes. Also as you've gotten stronger you've developed a lot of musculature that isn't obvious. People focus too much on the vanity muscles like the biceps, pecs, delts but there are a lot of muscles that control stability and balance that get a lot of work from heavy compounds. Also your bones and joints are much more denser and stronger than those of the average recreational bodybuilder who has been lifting for years but can barely hit 1/2/3/4. You have a much higher chance of surviving a car crash that for most would be lethal and recovering from falls and injuries. You can't underestimate this.
Muscle definition is largely BF percent and insertions(genetics). Low insertions typically lead to better athleticism and strength, but unaesthetic muscles(without steroids or heavy dieting.) It depends on the muscle though, some benefit from higher insertions. Best example I can give is Magnus the rock climber, beats people far heavier and more muscular than him in practically every back movement, but has pretty unaesthetic back muscle.
Thanks man. Yeh it’s up there for sure. But as you know as well, with social media, my deadlift is tiny compared to what’s out there. I’m happy. But I’m more happy about the process of training than the actual numbers.
“Lagging computer” is how I describe the nervous system shit from heavy conventional dead’s etc and that’s exactly why generally I don’t fuck with that style of training these days haha. Having a really physical job that shit just became intolerable, granted sore muscles from hypertrophy / endurance strength training makes life suck too, but at least my energy levels don’t feel blown out. It’s just a rough life us serious lifters have chosen, no matter what direction we go with it 😂
@@djjankov6667this is simply not true at all. Ivan isn’t one to just “peak” strength. He doesn’t do PL competitions where people literally train to peak their strength for a single day. Ivan’s training is to seek and destroy weaknesses and to check vital signs of the body to determine what works and doesn’t work. Once he understands what he has to do to get stronger he will do that thing. He will eventually be a well rounded athlete that will be able to hold a 230 kg squat when his body is ready to squat that weight (he needs to be recovered from all the variables that weaken the body). He is NOT a powerlifter. He is a man that studies movement. He understands how the game works. His training is not based on some spreadsheet some random guy on the internet gave him.
@@dasdos002 No ...in His description and goals He has strength Goals...thats the Sense of the Sport thats why He squats everyday....the Rest is Just talking for contant
@ I’m not saying he doesn’t have strength goals. But if he hits 300. That doesn’t mean he is going to stop training. And the training is so he gets stronger. He will hit 305 if he wants to. Or he will just maintain 300 for the rest of his life. His goals don’t say, “once I get 300 I’m done training”.
That's interesting. My appetite is an indication of my previous training session. If I'm hungrier, I know I did enough volume and intensity to stimulate my muscles to grow, and I found the opposite to be true when strength training. Good observation.
I disagree with that guy. You DO look like you can lift 285. You're very muscular. I guess he can't see past some fat. The CNS thing is very true too. I still love my hypertrophy focus, but I think there's a need for some meaningful weight to help you with neural drive, so you can really train hard in your hypertrophy training as well. Some deadlifting or power cleans or something. At least one explosive thing. At the very least some explosive rows, even if the form is strict.
He definitely doesn't look like he can lift 285kg. He is very strong but he doesnt look like he could do anything close to the weight he squats or deadlifts. Fat or not. You would never pick him out of a lineup and put money on him to lift those weights.
@@summerofsaisHe looks really strong. You just don't know how strong people look. You probably think that having visible abs and being low bodyfat is an indicator of strength.
@@alexvisan7622no need To do that. He doesn't look weak. But he doesn't look as strong as he is. He doesn't even look construct worker strong. I'm pretty sure he agrees. You're trying to make him everything. Like for example Larry wheels is abnormal. He is built like a bodybuilder but strong as f too with visible abs. Yes Larry wheels looks strong and is strong. Ivan looks like a regular dude that is putting up crazy numbers. It is what it is. Doesn't have to be interpreted as an insult or being negative.
Ivan have you ever expereinced a strange weakness or feeling of noodlyness in the lower back that lasts for a week or two that makes deadlifting super hard? Happens to me whenever i push the deadlift
Interesting way to describe it. I describe my lower back fatigue as tightness. I don’t ever feel it loose. It’s probably because I’m always in anterior pelvic tilt.
@IvanDjuric300 interesting, I wish I had more tightness, my lower back feels like a noodle when tired. But perhaps it makes sense, I probably am much more towards PPT then APT
Good job👍🏾 There’s a lot of misinformation out there concerning the looks of a lifter. Your body is natural and healthy unlike those PED users. To a lot of people those PED users are the real lifters. What an age we live in. Good job once again and keep it up 👍🏾
nah low bar looks good cuz most people were taught to just hit 90 degrees i mean just sitting at the bottom of squat like if bend a stick it eventually breaks we know deeper is more hypertrophy now but i dont think just super deep rom is ideal for everyone gotta be specific
I think the reason you're stronger than you look is probably good strength genetics. Everyone has different tendon insertions, leverages and ability to learn movements. It's not just because you train for strength. If you trained like a bodybuilder you'd probably also be stronger than average bodybuilders.
Yeh maybe. I generally don’t like the genetics conversation. It’s not really productive. None of us can change that part. But yeh maybe my genetics are more geared towards strength. But who knows.
Let me attempt to teach a detail. First, Ivan is looking a bit fuller, good. The bw has to go up to hit the numbers. But probably now the task is a bit more muscle, no need to get much fatter. So I am looking at hypertrophy. I am not going to set out the science, just the solution. This is what I think drives hypertrophy. 1. Load is not too important, you don’t need heavy. 2. Fast movement does not work. 3. Going to failure is effective, but close to failure is too, but may need more volume. So failure training requires fewer sets. 4. The answer is slow deliberate movement close to or at failure. Approx 5 seconds up, 5 seconds down. That sort of ballpark. 5. Not saying other approaches are not contributing to lifting the heavy weights, but just looking at hypertrophy. That . 6. There is a limit to how much muscle, but it seems to be a gradual tendential decline, it may not stop absolutely, but the progress will be very slow eventually. Hopefully makes you think.
Lifting heavy comes from genetics…. I mean as an 18yo I haven’t got much stronger over 20 years. Yet I see 18yo lifting way more. They have a strength gift like some top tier bodybuilders have a gift for blowing up on gear.
Youre right, it comes from genetics. Its too bad you lack the genetics to push yourself more instead of being negative and thinking its out of your control.
Yeah, agreed. We can all improve over time, but the amount of times I have seen/heard of teenagers either starting crazy strong or getting really strong in the matter of months just shows that there is a huge genetic/natural component
In my opinion you dont look big because you are not a bodybuilder. You dont even look like you weigh 102 kg at 6 foot tall. Your weight is spread across your legs and core because of what you do, so its not obvious unlike with someone who only goes to the gym to bench, curl, lateral raise and do other vanity lifts. Of course, the CNS thing is also true. There are plenty of very skinny guys who lift heavy weights. Its just a skill in that sense
I’m sure he’s bulking to lift as much weight as he can. A lot of guys including myself hold extra fat in the belly or hips area. Dude is built like a tank though.
He explains in this video he's not a body builder he trains for powerlifting or basically just for heavy singles he doesn't focus on hypertrophy so his physique isn't going to look the greatest. A lot of power lifters have eh physique because like he said it's more of a nervous thing/techinque mastery also muscle correlates with strength but at higher levels of strength it starts to dissociate. Honestly given all this is why I personally do powerbuilding but to each their own.
I used to think you needed a training program, when I first saw you. But I've grown to realize that even without a program, your training is still generally structured, logical and flexible.
already know it's gonna be a great video !
Cheers man
Regarding your point here 2:07, the Ukrainian powerlifter Vladimir Shmondenko isn't particularly big either I think it's a matter of genes. Also as you've gotten stronger you've developed a lot of musculature that isn't obvious. People focus too much on the vanity muscles like the biceps, pecs, delts but there are a lot of muscles that control stability and balance that get a lot of work from heavy compounds. Also your bones and joints are much more denser and stronger than those of the average recreational bodybuilder who has been lifting for years but can barely hit 1/2/3/4. You have a much higher chance of surviving a car crash that for most would be lethal and recovering from falls and injuries. You can't underestimate this.
Muscle definition is largely BF percent and insertions(genetics). Low insertions typically lead to better athleticism and strength, but unaesthetic muscles(without steroids or heavy dieting.) It depends on the muscle though, some benefit from higher insertions. Best example I can give is Magnus the rock climber, beats people far heavier and more muscular than him in practically every back movement, but has pretty unaesthetic back muscle.
Thanks for these videos man.
Appreciate ya man
That title is so badass
Are you aware that 285kgs is a super elite deadlift for a natural athlete?
Youre always humble but your numbers are just insane now
Thanks man. Yeh it’s up there for sure.
But as you know as well, with social media, my deadlift is tiny compared to what’s out there.
I’m happy. But I’m more happy about the process of training than the actual numbers.
@@IvanDjuric300your deadlift is legit brother. I tried 245kg today and only broke it off the ground but couldn't hit it. I started lifting in 2012.
@@smakabigmac You're strong asf. 💪🍻
@@memorycard1000 appreciate you brother.
You are a big inspiration, man. Never skipped a session. This consistency is insane
“Lagging computer” is how I describe the nervous system shit from heavy conventional dead’s etc and that’s exactly why generally I don’t fuck with that style of training these days haha. Having a really physical job that shit just became intolerable, granted sore muscles from hypertrophy / endurance strength training makes life suck too, but at least my energy levels don’t feel blown out. It’s just a rough life us serious lifters have chosen, no matter what direction we go with it 😂
Thank you for uploading.
I, too noticed a correlation with CNS and appetite.
IVAN'S got back!!!!
mans a machine
300kg will fall within 6 months from now along with 230kg squat!
Oh man that sounds excellent.
I really hope so.
No He will squat 230 maybe one time then He overtrains get Back ...because of His Bad Programming He wont maintain His strength
@@djjankov6667this is simply not true at all. Ivan isn’t one to just “peak” strength. He doesn’t do PL competitions where people literally train to peak their strength for a single day. Ivan’s training is to seek and destroy weaknesses and to check vital signs of the body to determine what works and doesn’t work. Once he understands what he has to do to get stronger he will do that thing. He will eventually be a well rounded athlete that will be able to hold a 230 kg squat when his body is ready to squat that weight (he needs to be recovered from all the variables that weaken the body). He is NOT a powerlifter. He is a man that studies movement. He understands how the game works. His training is not based on some spreadsheet some random guy on the internet gave him.
@@dasdos002 No ...in His description and goals He has strength Goals...thats the Sense of the Sport thats why He squats everyday....the Rest is Just talking for contant
@ I’m not saying he doesn’t have strength goals. But if he hits 300. That doesn’t mean he is going to stop training. And the training is so he gets stronger. He will hit 305 if he wants to. Or he will just maintain 300 for the rest of his life. His goals don’t say, “once I get 300 I’m done training”.
Ohhh it's on now!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, it's on now!
Hell yea !!!
That's interesting. My appetite is an indication of my previous training session. If I'm hungrier, I know I did enough volume and intensity to stimulate my muscles to grow, and I found the opposite to be true when strength training. Good observation.
Yeh it’s something I used to fight. Now I accept it. When I start eating again it’s time to hit another big session.
Noti gang
Respect
I disagree with that guy. You DO look like you can lift 285. You're very muscular. I guess he can't see past some fat. The CNS thing is very true too. I still love my hypertrophy focus, but I think there's a need for some meaningful weight to help you with neural drive, so you can really train hard in your hypertrophy training as well. Some deadlifting or power cleans or something. At least one explosive thing. At the very least some explosive rows, even if the form is strict.
He definitely doesn't look like he can lift 285kg. He is very strong but he doesnt look like he could do anything close to the weight he squats or deadlifts. Fat or not. You would never pick him out of a lineup and put money on him to lift those weights.
@@summerofsaisHe looks really strong. You just don't know how strong people look. You probably think that having visible abs and being low bodyfat is an indicator of strength.
@@alexvisan7622no need To do that. He doesn't look weak. But he doesn't look as strong as he is. He doesn't even look construct worker strong. I'm pretty sure he agrees. You're trying to make him everything. Like for example Larry wheels is abnormal. He is built like a bodybuilder but strong as f too with visible abs. Yes Larry wheels looks strong and is strong. Ivan looks like a regular dude that is putting up crazy numbers. It is what it is. Doesn't have to be interpreted as an insult or being negative.
@@summerofsais Larry wheels is on gear and Ivan isn't. Ivan doesn't look like a regular guy lol, you haven't met him in person. He is around 225lbs.
@@summerofsais Yes I would.
Ivan have you ever expereinced a strange weakness or feeling of noodlyness in the lower back that lasts for a week or two that makes deadlifting super hard?
Happens to me whenever i push the deadlift
Interesting way to describe it. I describe my lower back fatigue as tightness. I don’t ever feel it loose. It’s probably because I’m always in anterior pelvic tilt.
@IvanDjuric300 interesting, I wish I had more tightness, my lower back feels like a noodle when tired. But perhaps it makes sense, I probably am much more towards PPT then APT
@@Michael20089 yeh that would make sense. Perhaps you need more squatting.
Jesus loves all of us! Thanks for the video Ivan
Brate vrati se u hrvatsku, treba nam ovakvih ljudi!
Time to eat. You got this
That’s it man. Gotta eat.
Привет, Иван! Я вижу ты прибавил в весе! Каков в настоящий момент вес твоего тела?
Good job👍🏾 There’s a lot of misinformation out there concerning the looks of a lifter. Your body is natural and healthy unlike those PED users. To a lot of people those PED users are the real lifters. What an age we live in. Good job once again and keep it up 👍🏾
nah low bar looks good cuz most people were taught to just hit 90 degrees i mean just sitting at the bottom of squat like if bend a stick it eventually breaks we know deeper is more hypertrophy now but i dont think just super deep rom is ideal for everyone gotta be specific
Everything has its uses. Atg has lots of benefits. But 90 degree squats have unique benefits too.
Whats your courrent weigth ?
He looks a bit overweighted, 25% body fat ?
102kg atm
@@IvanDjuric300 Solid 💪, what's the height?
algo ivan
I think the reason you're stronger than you look is probably good strength genetics. Everyone has different tendon insertions, leverages and ability to learn movements. It's not just because you train for strength. If you trained like a bodybuilder you'd probably also be stronger than average bodybuilders.
Yeh maybe.
I generally don’t like the genetics conversation. It’s not really productive. None of us can change that part.
But yeh maybe my genetics are more geared towards strength. But who knows.
Let me attempt to teach a detail. First, Ivan is looking a bit fuller, good. The bw has to go up to hit the numbers. But probably now the task is a bit more muscle, no need to get much fatter. So I am looking at hypertrophy. I am not going to set out the science, just the solution.
This is what I think drives hypertrophy.
1. Load is not too important, you don’t need heavy.
2. Fast movement does not work.
3. Going to failure is effective, but close to failure is too, but may need more volume. So failure training requires fewer sets.
4. The answer is slow deliberate movement close to or at failure. Approx 5 seconds up, 5 seconds down. That sort of ballpark.
5. Not saying other approaches are not contributing to lifting the heavy weights, but just looking at hypertrophy. That .
6. There is a limit to how much muscle, but it seems to be a gradual tendential decline, it may not stop absolutely, but the progress will be very slow eventually.
Hopefully makes you think.
big boi
Lifting heavy comes from genetics…. I mean as an 18yo I haven’t got much stronger over 20 years. Yet I see 18yo lifting way more. They have a strength gift like some top tier bodybuilders have a gift for blowing up on gear.
Youre right, it comes from genetics. Its too bad you lack the genetics to push yourself more instead of being negative and thinking its out of your control.
Yeah, agreed. We can all improve over time, but the amount of times I have seen/heard of teenagers either starting crazy strong or getting really strong in the matter of months just shows that there is a huge genetic/natural component
In my opinion you dont look big because you are not a bodybuilder. You dont even look like you weigh 102 kg at 6 foot tall. Your weight is spread across your legs and core because of what you do, so its not obvious unlike with someone who only goes to the gym to bench, curl, lateral raise and do other vanity lifts.
Of course, the CNS thing is also true. There are plenty of very skinny guys who lift heavy weights. Its just a skill in that sense
I'm doing a similar video series, train everyday on my channel
Nice.
@@IvanDjuric300 thank you
take steroids please.
i wana see you do 450
great vid man!b bless up!
You don´t look like you can lift 285. Those hamstrings, glutes and spinal erectors are telling otherwise.
Sorry I am new and do not have context. But 1840 days of working out and still with a man belly? I guess physique improvement is really not your goal?
lol
I’m sure he’s bulking to lift as much weight as he can. A lot of guys including myself hold extra fat in the belly or hips area. Dude is built like a tank though.
He explains in this video he's not a body builder he trains for powerlifting or basically just for heavy singles he doesn't focus on hypertrophy so his physique isn't going to look the greatest. A lot of power lifters have eh physique because like he said it's more of a nervous thing/techinque mastery also muscle correlates with strength but at higher levels of strength it starts to dissociate. Honestly given all this is why I personally do powerbuilding but to each their own.
so salty...