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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 พ.ค. 2013
- Shows how to properly clear and tune timpani heads with a DrumDial. Includes suggested tuning patterns, DrumDial settings for each size timpani, tuning range charts and correct pedal tension adjustment for maximizing the tuning range of each drum.
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Thanks, I really picked up some great info in this series. A must see for all drummer's out there. Thanks again.
Hi Steve, I am thoroughly enjoying your excellent videos. These are very helpful. I just have one question, if I may. I own a pair -25" and a 28" "Slingerland Supreme", copper kettles . These are older kettles, and a very thin bearing edge on each timp with no wider sleeve around the perimeter against the inside of the timps at the very top edge like the newer models have. Instead, the metal reinforcement ring is about 3 inches from the top of the timp. It isn't "out of round" but my question this. Is the thinner bearing edge where the timp head will be seated going to make it more difficult to tune, even using the Drum Dial? Also, one other thing...these timps have the pedals on the, but the pedals are not anything like Ludwig pedals. They move(slide) up and down on a circular metal shaft. Well, I am really confused about where to put the pedal when putting a new head on, and wondered if you would know? I tune the 25" to C and the 28" to A. Do I put the pedal all the way down to the floor when tuning, or do I bring it all the way up to the top of the shaft, put the head on, tune it to A or C and leave it, or, am I supposed to position the pedal at a certain point, then begin the tuning? Since no one uses these old vintage things, I have a hard time describing what I am trying to do. I just though( hope) that maybe you would know, since you are using what appears to be a vintage timp. Thanks so much. I am in the process of purchasing a Drum Dial just so that I can do this right instead of trying to keep tuning by ear.
The thinner bearing edge will not effect the tuning or the way you would clear the timpani. I am very familiar with your style of timpani. Set the pedal to its highest point (pedal all the way up). This is opposite of the Ludwig style as shown in this video. Tune your 25 to its lowest setting (pedal up) and using the DrumDial tune to 76 and for the 28 tune to 75. This will be about a note below your lowest setting G2 for the 25 and E2 for the 28. See our website for DrumDial tuning ranges for all timpani here:
www.drumdial.com/how-to-use/timpani-tuning-charts/
I have a set of three videos that go into extreme detail of a complete overhaul of 2 timpani (in depth, complete pedal rebuild). Be sure to comment and like these videos where I rebuild a set of older Premier (Slingerland style), very similar to yours in size:
Part 1
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Part 2
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Part 3
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I can't believe it that I have finally run into a person who knows the model of timpani that I have! You don't know how much this helps me, as I have been struggling to get these things together since 2002. The copper bowls were laminated with some type of copper colored paint when I bought them. Both bowls are filled with dents, tiny ones, medium sized and the large ones I was able to use a rubber mallet to get the larger ones out, but they still, to me, look bad. Well, I wanted to strip them down to the copper, which I did(man! what a job that was!) hoping to be able to just polish them up and make them look better. Not the case. When the bowls were made, they had the paint in mind, so the kettles a re not smooth like glass, have pin head sized pits throughout, and they didn't clean up well at all. I polished the 28" using "Blue Magic" as best I could, then coated it with some stuff called "Incralac Water Based " from a company called "Talas.". This Incralac is what is used on timpani once they are ready. Needless to say, it looks terrible, but I haven't got the patience nor the time nor the money to invest in them anymore. They sound fantastic, I just wish they could look as good as they sound. Thank you for explaining how to position the pedal and then how to tune them. Speaking of the pedal...what type of polish did you use on the grip rod, and should I apply any type of lubricant on the grip rod after I've polished it? Also, which brand of Teflon Tape should I use on the bearing edges and where should I find it? I can't wait to get the Drum Dial, which was shipped to me today. All this, thanks to you and your GREAT videos! Thank you, Steve!!!!
Steve Barber Pick up the Teflon tape from Steve Weiss Music (on line).
www.steveweissmusic.com/product/timpani-teflon-bearing-edge-tape/timpani-bass-drum-parts
I polished the grip rod with very fine Emery cloth (500-600 grit) and used a light 3 in 1 oil just to keep the rust off.
scusate la domanda strana. non mi serve accordatore per uno strumento ma per curiosità, cioè per sapere le note che sento senza verifica al piano. esiste uno strumento del genere? mi pare che il korg senta una nota poi va in tilt. cioè se faccio 5 note velocette vorrei visualizzare le 5 note sul tuner. poi: esiste un metronomo che segnali tempi asimmetrici? grazie.
Andrea Dobetti Sì, il Korg o qualsiasi accordatore cromatico funzionerà. Il tamburo testa deve essere in sintonia con se stesso, con un DrumDial prima. Poi l'accordatore cromatico funzionerà molto bene.